/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[6-4] Sigil Buckethead MIDIs
http://www.mediafire.com/file/t99msapgk9t34gd/bucketmidi.zip/file

[6-2] Sigil updated to 1.1
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1134501030887153666
https://pastebin.com/p2GMUSRE (Changelog)

[6-2] Some Consolation Prize updates
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1106075
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=55298&start=120#p1105205

[6-1] Wadsmoosh updated, now supports Sigil
https://jp.itch.io/wadsmoosh/devlog/83752/wadsmoosh-11

[6-1] 64-bit version of OBLIGE
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=64879

[6-1] SIGIL now officially available for download
https://www.romerogames.ie/si6il

[5-28] METADOOM has moved over to Zscript, SIGIL supported, Testers needed
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010

[5-28] New LTG beta release
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1105508#p1105508

[5-27] Quake 2 RTX Release date in June 6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unGtBbhaPeU

[5-26] SIGIL has been leaked, check the MEGA links in the OP

[5-23] Chex Quest 3 has been re-released officially
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPByIugoiM0

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1131200733192380417

[5-21] Redemption Of The Slain is getting a no BD version
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64768

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106379-hexen-cyrgoths-manor-7-level-hub/

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105690-unbeliever-a-heretic-megawad-release-candidate/

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem
https://m210.duke4.net/

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16
http://manbitesshark.com/

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64701

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Nigga you got pranked with the midis

>>5631838
Maybe? I don't download the contents before adding shit to the news.

>>5631841
Nah. It's all Buckethead.

>>5631845
Close enough at least. Makes the final map more fun too.

Have you done that Ultra-Violence pistol start playthrough with fast monsters and no saving yet?

are romero's b maps worth playing?

>>5631873
Not yet, decino

>>5631880
Yes.

>>5631831
>IWADs and more (>3 GB): https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B47V8l2eVZKxRU82S3JkZkdBRXM
why isn't anyone seeding this shit?

>>5631890
Because of iknowwhatyoudownload.com

>>5631832
Deltarune companion mod now with an extra character
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfZNzDi6y_o

why? I dunno
looks cute tho

>>5631896
fuck off, if you're not gonna seed, remove it from the OP

So I've been playing Doom for pretty much 25 years now and I have a question. Has anybody actually beaten the game on ultra violence? I understand, Nightmare is a joke setting and isn't actually beatable in principle.

>>5631904
ultra violence is the "normal" difficulty of doom imo
everything bellow that is just a flavor of easy

>>5631904
Nothing impossible about Nightmare. Gotta go fast. 100% on Nightmare might not always be feasible but who cares?
Also you must be baiting. Of course people have beaten it.

>>5631904
I'm not even sure if this is a troll or not. Ultra Violence is "normal" mode. Anything less than that has less monsters. I beat Ultra Violence as a kid. After like a few hours of playing. It's not hard.

I also beat Nightmare as a kid. That IS hard, but it's doable with practice, patience, and determination.

>>5631912
>>5631916
>>5631920

Tryhards please. Normal difficulty is the third one everybody knows that.

>>5631904
i'll admit that i haven't finished Doom 2 just because the cities maps fuck with my brain so much. I always end up getting stuck in any game that has at least one map where everything looks the same.

>>5631912
>>5631920
Yeah, this. While Ultra-Violence is technically meant to be "hard" mode, the iwads are generally too easy on Hurt Me Plenty (the actual intended "normal" mode) or lower.
Ultra-Violence only truly lives up to being the "hard" setting when looking at Plutonia, and most pwads.

>>5631923
Sure, if you wanna be bored.

>>5631904
>>5631923

Why does freedoom exist? No one wants to play an ugly Chinese bootleg version of doom.

>>5631962
>>5631969
>muh epic simulated downvotes

>>5631978
but anon chinese hate freedom

>>5631978
Because it's free software and RMS type people exist, because it can serve as a basis for a lot of mods, because it shows off a lot of assets that have since ended up in some very well known mods, just because it can exist.

>>5631982
I see. A refugee. Go back.

>>5631978
It's free software whose use case is more for development purposes than to actually playing with. You have completely free reign over all the assets included without legal repercussions, so you can more safely use it as a base for any standalone projects using say GZDoom, as that is GPL compliant.

I've heard that SgtMark apparently reused some of its maps in his own project(s), which given the nature of FreeDoom he totally can.

>>5631982

>>5631994
This, you can even flat out edit Freedoom a bit and put it on sale on Steam and be legally within your rights to do so.

Hedon even contains a few edited sprites from Freedoom.

>>5631993
>>5632002

>>5632003
some of the art on freedom gives me that vibe you know
the same vibe Hedon gives you before you realize there is official porn of it

>>5632008
A lot of free software projects have a bit of an issue with stuff like sprites seeming a little off.

Pic fucking related to Hedon though, dat pinky gets everywhere.

>>5632005
If only. Come on. Make me feel something.

One of my favorite maps.

Is it me or are Duke's guns much less satisfying to use than Doom's? Even the rocket launcher is a bit dull because it essentially deletes monsters, not even leaving a gore puddle behind.

>>5632008
Not only porn, shemale porn.
I like the game itself but I'd recommend against looking up the rule 34 of it.

>>5632042
It's the worst deviantart tier shit as well.

Just be glad it's not as in your face as it was last year when I was trying to find more out about the mod.

>>5632020
I'm getting some beatles rock band vibes

>>5631904
Ultra-Violence? Yes, of course, me and many others have done that.

Nightmare! was added because people complained that Doom was too easy (the original three episodes seldom get very hard or ballbusting on Ultra-Violence), and mostly was a joke.
They didn't intend anyone to actually seriously play the game on Nightmare!, but as it turns out, there's a few people who will do challenge speedruns on that difficulty.
A shorthand calculation is that playing on Nightmare! will tend to multiply the difficulty, often beyond the intentions of the level's design.

For a quick example, Plutonia is famously regarded as extra challenging, and that's by design, the authors described their design process as "We made sure that the maps would always be really hard for us on Ultra-Violence, if we felt it was becoming easy, we would up the challenge."
Now, it's harder, but lots of people have beaten Plutonia on Ultra-Violence, but if you play Plutonia on Nightmare! instead, you're in for a very serious challenge gauntlet, and in fact there's VERY few people who have successfully beaten Plutonia on Nightmare! without dying or without saving and loading.
Another example is that one of TNT Evilution's levels was actually thought to be outright impossible to beat on Nightmare! until someone did a few years ago, and TNT is generally considered way easier than Plutonia.

Ultra-Violence will usually depend on what maps you're playing (the original three episodes being fairly mild), but usually they will be perfectly playable, Nightmare! is way harder than what the average player will be used to and whether or not it's actually playable will usually be a wildcard.

>>5632050
If memory serves right that level uses a midi of a Beatles' song so you're right there, you also hop into a Yellow Submarine

>>5632017
Your parents never loved you, you're a blight on society, and you're going to inevitably die, having made no impact on the world, and everyone even remotely close to you will immediately forget who you are once you're in the dirt.
How was that?

>>5631923
Hurt Me Plenty would be considered "Normal Mode", yeah, but the thing is that that Knee Deep In The Dead, Shores Of Hell, and Inferno, just aren't very hard on Ultra-Violence, which would be "Hard Mode"

That said, the rest of the official Doom maps ramp up difficulty much more on Ultra-Violence, Thy Flesh Consumed is even still pretty mean on Hurt Me Plenty.

>>5632058
That was desperate if anything and you just outed your intent. You're pretty bad at this. Try something or somewhere else.

>>5632020
> russian hardbass blasting in a backalley
i am fucking dead

>>5632017
You're a smelly double revenant.

>>5632070
worth a shot

>>5631831
What was the last unfucked GZDoom version?

3.4.1?

I ask because 4.1.2 keeps crashing on me semi-frequently. >>5629253
>>5630352

>>5632074
At least that made me smile.

>>5632084
3,4,1 is considered to be the unfucked standard by a fair number of mod devs.

>GZDoom hangs for a bit when I try to load it on my toaster
>Eduke32 loads almost instantly
Wow. The source port for the more advanced game has less trouble loading. What is Graf even doing?

>>5631978
>Open Slade
>Remove retarded IWAD lock
>Open Doom2.wad
>Delete all levels and music
>Save as new wad
>Launch Freedoom with newly edited wad
>Enjoy Freedoom as a Megawad with Doom Graphics
Pic related. Levels are pretty good. Music is okay, but not great.

>>5632094
GZDoom is probably the most unoptimized source port in existence, Graf's solution to this is to tell people to shut the fuck up and buy better hardware.

>>5632097
Why don't people mod JDoom as much? You can easily get just as much eye-candy out of it, and it has some neat features that GZDoom doesn't.

Does GZDoom run any better on Linux?
Don't know why it would, but still.

wat

>>5632108
Linux-anon here
It runs smooth for me. Graf still sux tho

>>5632116
exploding knees

>>5632096
That's a really weird way to do it, there are numerous Freedoom map only wads that are just the maps, music, decorations and textures for running with vanilla Doom/Doom2.

>>5632116
>shooting_from_the_groin.webm

>>5632116
Is this Return to Nali Pa?

>>5632106
Some don't know it exists, other think the community only needs one source port and that the others should be folded into GZDoom.

>>5631880
B maps?

>>5632106
I think the models might have something to do with people disliking Doomsday. Turned it into a meme port or something. Not like you have to use them but still.

so comfy

>>5632116
why isn't he shooting rockets

>>5632160
holy shit this soundtrack is awesome too, love this wad

>>5632003
If you're talking about the worms from, they're not edited from Freedoom, I checked them, along with some other stuff like the lava texture.
Hedon's clean, I'll give that to the dev

>>5632160
Is that Eviternity? Fun wad. Played through it solo and decided to try co-op with a friend afterwards. The co-op spawns are ridiculous, makes me wonder how many players they were balanced around. Cyberdemons that weren't there on UV solo everywhere in the early levels.

so is there a video or a summary some place that lists the problems with gzdoom somewhere?

>>5632192
yeah I found out about it through that doomer southern accent guy sigil review, on the 2nd level right now, awesome soundtrack and so comfy, I love medieval levels, not that hyped for the scifi ones but i bet they'll be just as good, love the idea of 5 very dinstinct episodes like this

>>5632195
It's poorly optimized and runs badly on weak hardware. Also purists complain about the support for high rendering resolutions and postprocessing effects but that's a subjective complaint.

If you have a decent PC and don't mind DOOM looking more modern GZDoom is fine imo.

>>5632108
If you install proprietary or open-source GPU drivers it runs pretty well (not sure about better), but I've found that task to be rather cumbersome. Have had multiple failed attempts at it, using my Nvidia GTX960m. Still, though, its worth a try. Have you ever used Linux before?

>>5632126
>there are numerous Freedoom map only wads
Ah, I had no idea. It just seemed like the easiest way to do at the time. Plus I like the Doom 2 textures more than the Freedoom textures.

>>5632134
>Some don't know it exists
Perhaps my next map will be for JDoom then.
>>5632148
Yeah, you might be on to something there.

Guess the only way to get JDoom more popular to just bite the bullet and make stuff for it. It's rendering engine has gotten pretty advanced at this point. I'm really curious to see what can be done with it.

>>5632198
love maps with this feel

What are some lesser known, but nice to have mods for DOOM? Someone shared this one last thread and I love it. Gives DOOM better sound design, replaces all the re-used monster and weapon sounds with new unique sounds. I especially like the new chaingun and lost soul sounds.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/71133-sound-caulking-now-on-idgames/

>>5632229
>lesser known
>mentioned continuously for the last 8 threads at least

>>5632234
My bad, I know SmoothDoom gets dropped all the time but I only recently started seeing sound caulking. Either way it's nice and hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet.

>>5632229
A pastebin of smaller 'add-on'-like mods for Doom could be neat. Stuff that can generally be side-loaded with other stuff without much or any overlap.

>>5632240
So, a minimod section?

>>5632240
Is that a butt?

>>5632247
More or less, yeah. I'll probably gut the OP of bloat while we're at it.

>>5632239
These threads have at least something of a following for lesser known mods that do neat stuff.

For years it was the only place that really acknowledged the existence of Dakka.

>>5632240
I was thinking of making a small video for those

But right now Im working on a couple other things, I'm doing guest editing in another channel and also have Half-Life on the back burner

>>5632229
Doomworld and ZDoom forums is where you want to look. Some projects get close to zero attention for whatever reason. Plenty of minimods to play around with too, Sounds, HUDs, shaders, sprites...

o shit

>>5632204
I'd drive myself insane if I ever got into Linux. Must optimize, must understand, must improve. Windows is all kinds of bullshit but I've accepted it for what it is. Plus I have decent enough hardware to handle just about anything GZDoom throws at me. Yeah right.
Maybe some day.

>>5632051
You're saying this as if "saving and loading" is somehow cheating. I play on Hurt me plenty and as somebody who can call himself an expert of the game having beaten Doom 1 and 2 as well as all the master levels, I wouldn't consider a game option to be something that "doesn't count".

Feels like Doom Legacy fell off the map at some point. Still gets the occasional update. Should give it a try.

>>5631904
I've beat it on ultra violence, but I tend to play on hurt me plenty to blow off steam. Doom for me is a speed game, and hurt me plenty offers me a fun challenge whilst keeping things fast. I usually do Wadsmoosh with fullrun.pk3 and see how far I cna get before dying. No saves.

>>5632265
hahaha these enemies are legit so sweet as an idea. Basically nightmare pinkies but with extra health and no invis.

Honestly one of my favorite parts of Eviturnity was seeing the new enemy types because they are all so fun to fight.

I wish I was a drawfag.

I want to draw the Quake 2 guy in a suit eating bReakfast then he looks at his watch and says oh my better be going then he leans over and picks up his super shotgun by its handle.

Member? Member that it has a little handle on it? That's the joke. It's funnier in my head.

>>5632282
>"as somebody who can call himself an expert of the game"
>plays on HMP

What the hell are you

>>5632345
Are many mods compatible with it? The megawad itself looks like fun, but I'd like to bring my usual small changes with me.

>>5632356
Apparently he didn't play TNT or Plutonia either.

>>5632349
Actually pretty funny, would be good as a meme.

Drawfags get on this

>>5632356
Not him, but why aren't people allowed to play on HMP? UV is pretty simple for the base games, but some wads are a pain in the ass in UV.

>>5632357
any mod that doesn't change the demons will work on Eviturnity most likely. I didn't make the mapset but I know how this stuff works.

Dakka, High Noon Drifter, final Doomer, smooth doom, just to name some examples.

you need to look for mods that don't replace any monsters at all, those are your best bet.

>>5632371
>Smooth doom
Pretty sure that replaces the monsters due to the extra sprites.

>>5632363
>UV is pretty simple for the base games
You answered your own question. Playing on HMP for the original IWADs is just too easy to be taken seriously, but that's my opinion and not a rule. People always think there are rules to this shit. It's a video game, and we're assholes on 4chan. Don't ask other people for extra rules.

>some wads are a pain in the ass in UV
Yes, and that means you either quicksave your way through, or switch to HMP. There is literally nothing about this that could possibly be considered cheating, and thinking that you can't save while playing Doom is a speedrunning thing most of the time. It's an intended feature of the game to quicksave, it's on the goddamn help screen in the menu.

>>5632378
You can turn off the smoothness of the monsters in the menus and I'm pretty sure that makes it compatible. I will admit that I haven't tried it.

>>5632378
It does but there's a weapons-only version kicking about, maybe he meant that.

>>5632195
It's just poorly optimized. The joke being that Doom, a game that can run on literally everything, can't run on modern PCs with GZDoom. The only time I notice anything is when I run the software renderer with a mod that spawns a ton of entities, like nashgore or something. Otherwise it runs decent enough on my FX 8350 and 980.

I can't believe there's still no Mega Man Doom in the official guide picture. It's been all the rage for years now...

>>5632357
also here's a video by a youtuber that plays with many small changes on Eviturnity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xyydK0sUmo

>>5632254
Same. I wanted to do something akin to that "So you want to play some doom" video but focus on what the "correct" way to play is. Basically guideline how to get a vanilla or vanilla+ experience for first time players.

>>5632387
forgot pic

>>5632254
oh shit is this civvie?

>>5632390
You could just update the pic. "Nah, someone else can do it" said everyone.

>>5632397
>Bestbuy
>Geeksquad
OH SHIT he fucked up. Overpriced nonsense.

>>5632396
it's the anon from the OP vids

>>5632414
oh nice I'm subbed to you on youtube. you made some great shit!

>>5632406
Pretty much the way of the community, there's always a hell of a lot of "I love [insert mod here] but I wish it had [insert incredibly basic change that would take two minutes in Slade here], why won't anybody do this to make it better for me?" type shit going on.

>>5632397
Oh god that image

>>5632397
never gets old

>>5632397
That post has to be bait, nobody is that retarded.

>>5632397
Oh fuck.
http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=527214

>>5632472
>34 fucking pages of people taking the bait
Jesus christ biodrones. As bad as (You) farming is on imageboards at least it's not this bad.

People always suggesting Legendoom Lite over the full version. Is there something wrong with the weapon drops?

>>5632387
>It's just poorly optimized. The joke being that Doom, a game that can run on literally everything, can't run on modern PCs with GZDoom.
That's less due to performance and more due to graphics card compatibility.

Maintaining support for old shader models while also expanding support for future hardware and also enhancing optimization would be a chore if you have to write copies of every change or optimization with different implementations for every supported shader model.

There is however a fair bit of overhead in GZDooms actor logic, a consequence of it being such an extremely moddable engine.

>>5632485
People like using it with other weapon/monster mods just to get the occasional stronk monster.

>>5632394
That would be interesting, in the OP video I kinda glossed over that, mostly to keep things going since it was mostly meant as a quick introduction.
I did mention Crispy but gave Chocolate a passing mention, I also did not go over on all the changes that GZDoom has when compared to that or some other ports like PRBoom.

What I had in mind for this new one would be more centered in customization, since right now I have this gloriously bloated setup of Smooth Doom+Vanilla Essence+Sound Caulking and some other things thrown into the mix.

>>5632417
Thanks anon, since you subbed you might want to check out the Black Pants Legion channel since I'm currently doing some stuff for Tex, hopefully it turns out good

>>5632485
Nope, Legendoom is actually pretty fucking great, it just gets overshadowed by Yholl's other mods.

>>5632490
Hello graf. A port of a 26 year old game should not require high-end hardware to run at a stable 1080/60. You are terrible at optimizing code and your retarded decisions regarding backwards compat/toaster support are merely a symptom of that. Most of the issues with GZDoom performance aren't from overloading the single-threaded actor logic, they're from the renderer shitting itself or the implementation of things like DECORATE/ZS being totally awful under the hood, causing otherwise totally innocuous actions that any other engine could do thousands of per frame to be horrendously inefficient.
Also reddit spacing.

>>5632397
I'm dead

>>5632504
>A port of a 26 year old game should not require high-end hardware to run at a stable 1080/60
Recent cheapskate GPUs might actually work better than older but technically more powerful ones. Not really about being high end.

>Most of the issues with GZDoom performance aren't from overloading the single-threaded actor logic, they're from the renderer shitting itself
That's wrong with the exception of when there's an actual bug, like bloom between 4.0 and 4.1

>or the implementation of things like DECORATE/ZS being totally awful under the hood
Anon, graf himself agrees with that. He didn't write and also hates it.

Also grow up you big baby

>>5632504
[NO]

what's the best program for recording a window (Doom) and immediately turning it into a webm with adjustable quality settings?

>>5632527
probably OBS and webmforretards.

>>5632527
independent of graphics card, OBS is probably your best bet
if you're using an nvidia card, shadowplay works well
then you take the video either of them recorded and run it into webm for retards

>>5632397
> extended warranty
wtf is that?

>>5632531
That's what I use too.

>>5632282
It isn't, unless you abuse it recklessly.

My point with Nightmare! though is that most people could probably never beat the original 3 episodes without saving and loading a lot, as opposed to Ultra-Violence, which most people decently familiar with Doom could most likely do.
Hell, it's actually pretty easy to save yourself into a corner on Nightmare!

Vulkan is such a weird step for GZDoom. It works for vanilla.
Vanilla Doom. Vulkan. That's some massive overkill but OK. Like, will it ever be able to go beyond that? Seems like way more hassle than it's going to be worth.

>>5632552
IIRC the point is that it's future proof, has wide support and is generally pleasant to work with. It also has the capacity for some significant optimizations down the line.

ol tenements

>>5632552
Nuts.wad deserves to playable at full framerate. But for real though. Vulkan is DX11/DX12 levels of performance in a mostly hardware/software agnostic package. It's future proofing more than anything else.

>>5632552
Mostly future proofing. It's also good to see vulkan in some kind of major open source project for people learning to modify. Doom and Quake have always been good games to hack stuff like that in.

>>5632116
something is wrong with your setup


>>5632490
>>5632387
The way GZDoom handles Decorate and ZScript actors is the main impact on the performance. That's why it's going to chug no matter how good a GPU you have, since that only alleviates about 20-30% of the issue, while other 70% is bottlenecked by the lack of proper multithreading.
The way engine itself set up makes implementing multithreading an arduous task by this point since everything is piled up upon a shitty foundation you can't altyer anymore without breaking absolutely everything.

Is it me, or is the SS in Hideous Destructor much weaker than the pump-action?

>>5632108
It runs very poorly on my J1900 toaster. It frequently dips below 25 FPS running at 640x480. nBlood and Eduke32 run at a locked 60 at 1024x768. I just use ZDoom instead.

I'm working on getting the vanilla look on every mod, here's what I have so far for GZDoom

I had to re enable some settings like hardware lighting to make sure I didn't destroy the way the mod is supposed to look, tell me what you think

>>5632585
>Q U A L E E T E E

>>5632584
Alright. Pretty much what I wanted to know. Thanks.
Still pretty good for something like that. Kinda.

>>5632585
I can count the pixels/10

>>5632585
You might want to upload a youtube clip

>>5632585
vaseline mush/10

>>5632585
GZDoom records like shit in OBS, dropping it's resolution down to 800 x 600 helps, somewhat.

Aw hell yeah DOOOOOOOMMMM thread!

https://youtu.be/apozAyXbGEs

>>5632590
>>5632593

I'm trying to get the hang of OBS and webm for retards, idk how to make this look good, I wish I could directly record it in 320x200 lossless and then just double the size for the webm

>>5632596

probably a better idea

>>5632585
Very hard to capture something like that on video without going lossless.
Screenshots work better.

>>5632604
Well, maybe I'm just a dumbass who can't wrangle OBS into doing what I want it to do. Probably need to use some custom settings but that stuff is double Hebrew to me. I just tell myself that x264 hates chunky pixelation.

>>5632615
go to settings>output

change recording quality
that might help

>>5632581
It has slightly higher per-shot damage, but the downside of 2 shells before a reload as opposed to 8 should be an obvious one. Some enemies also regenerate HP which compounds that issue. The slayer does hold a notable range advantage over the hunter, it can make absolutely insane shots to the point where if it had a scope it'd be a better Boss rifle than the Boss itself. The double shot can also take out certain enemies in a single hit that might survive an entire tube of hunter shots.

The way I look at it is that the slayer serves as a high-powered sidearm while the hunter is a low-powered primary weapon. Slayer is lightweight, fast to draw, and can hit one or two things hard and fast, making it a suitable fallback weapon, but it lacks the continuous fire you'll need for a lot of combat scenarios. The hunter has more staying power, but it's a bit underpowered for its weight and won't be sufficient for bigger groups or multiple large enemies.

>>5632623
I know that. I mean custom command line shit for the muxer. The encoder just isn't great when it comes to pixelation shaders on a high resolution. At least that's my take on it.

>Podded up women beg to be killed
>it often triggers the same punishment ambushes for killing stippers
I'm getting conflicting messages here, Duke.

>>5632661
Don't do it, Duke. Kill the big bad boss instead. Free the babes.

>>5632661
>Podded up women beg to be killed
Tbh that's one of the few dook aspects I think are kinda tasteless

>>5632632
just drop CRF into the floor and pray your hard drive can handle it

>>5632684
Might as well go lossless at that point. Fraps. That's what I had to do to get any kind of quality on youtube. Fraps -> merge clips -> x264 @ ~20K bitrate. Capturing with NVENC/x264 from the getgo ends up looking like color soup on youtube. Can't explain it. That's just how things worked out.

Gotta have that huge ass harddrive to get decent Doom modding footage.

>>5632387
Part of it is a matter of how Doom does threading, something you can't change on the fly and just have better performance magically.
It's an inherent bottleneck which for the foreseeable future, GZDoom and it's related ports will just not be able to truly get past, and I'll excuse Graf for not wanting to completely demolish everything and starting from the ground up, losing compatibility with everything in the process.

There's room for optimization and improvement, sure, but you'll never run NUTS.wad smoothly, and linedef checks (either with lots of monsters or lots of linedefs, or both), add up and you can't do anything about that.

>>5632683
Its an aliens reference. Besides, pretty much everything in Duke is tasteless, its a game that would never be made today because Twitter would basically declare jihad on 3D Realms.

>>5632705
You can say that all you want, but GZDoom still runs like complete shit compared to every other source port.

https://youtu.be/Y8cRGVtuqOQ

much better but still not quite what I'm looking for, do I just need FRAPS?

>>5632714
>Its an aliens reference
I know, I just don't like they way they did it.
>Besides, pretty much everything in Duke is tasteless
I think most of the humor/babe stuff is tongue in cheek and fun. I guess I don't enjoy sexualization mixed with suffering etc unless it's some Videodrome shit meant only to disturb

What's the best control scheme for Hideous Destructor?

>>5632716
Because they don't handle actors like GZDoom does.

>>5632705
>It's an inherent bottleneck which for the foreseeable future
There is plenty of multithreading that you could squeeze in that most likely isn't there right now, it's just that the combination of very old Doom code and very shit Grafcode means that the select few people who are willing, able, and have the time to work on GZDoom don't want to touch it for fear of introducing huge unfixable bugs that would ACTUALLY require the "starting from the ground up" that you mention. People like Graf can whine
>but muh sequential calculation is incompatible!
>but muh vanilla compat!
all they want, but those problems have been solved in other applications before that use multi-threaded solutions. The only compatibility anyone has to worry about is ZDoom -> ZDoom backwards compat and I can safely say that it's not a large concern based on recent versions.

>>5632683
I always found it weird that
1: The infeted women just explode into gibs no matter what weapon you use and
2: That Nintendo were so afraid of seeing nipples that they had the sprites changed so the women were ripped in half instead. Nintendo would rather show a naked woman being shredded than risk glimpsing their tits. What the actual fuck.

>>5632705
Maybe he'll port everything to a brand new vulkan engine. VZDoom?

>>5632724
You can record lossless video with OBS just like fraps.

>>5632728
The standing pods are okay, its the hanging ones that are a little too sexual. It always looked like a hentai tentacle rape in progress to me, and I found it distracting.

>>5632661
Just don’t think about it. Chew more ass and kick bubble gum.

>>5632736
Not real lossless. IIRC that's NVENC capturing at 50K bitrate. Basically the most it can handle. Doesn't look bad but still lossy.

>>5632739
That’s because it’s exactly what you think it is.

>>5632735
>Nintendo would rather show a naked woman being shredded than risk glimpsing their tits. What the actual fuck.
Isn't it a case of the developers preemptively doing this change with expectance of this attitude rather than Nintendo going "yeah now that you added the gore its fine"

>>5632735
That's just the general consensus on censorship. Violence/Murder is GREAT AND FINE as long as there's no suffering involved. Death screams are fine but you can't have someone screaming and moaning as they're crawling along the floor slowly bleeding out. Exploding heads? Great! No suffering!

But don't you dare show any genitals. That's just obscene. Adults only.

>>5632171
Do you happen to be using Smurf's shitshow of an unofficial patch?

>>5632754
>Death screams are fine but you can't have someone screaming and moaning as they're crawling along the floor slowly bleeding out
Postal 2 was fine with this. Ever set people on fire in that game?

>>5632760
Hey, you won the Joel thing. Congratulations from some anon on the internet.

>>5632764
Thanks, I spent the prize money on waifus and games (and waifu games).

Joel has yet to send me that "surprise wad" though.

>>5632764
Don't encourage tripfagging

>>5632132
No, he spawned an actor in the 2nd map and it confuzzled

>>5632768
>Joel has yet to send me that "surprise wad" though.
It'll just be a map made out of his dick pics.

>>5632760
yeah, why wouldn't I

>>5631831
I keep trying to run Doom_Complete.pk3, but it keeps saying that ws_sky_compat already exists. What do?

>>5632762
They pulled some shenanigans to get away with that, I figure. Still an 18+ game, right? Something like "oh, it's just a joke, see?" Or maybe "at least there's no nudity, right?"

I don't know how these censorship people work. Some people get away with it while others don't.

>>5632762
That’s because it’s mostly played for laughs, and Postal 1 was even more fucked up.

>>5632783
>that image
Jesus fuck my eyes

You haven't known true terror until you've played Sigil with Freedoom.

>>5632265
This new enemy was so retarded. It's just a pinky thats slightly faster with twice the health. The pinkies died in 1 SSG shot, which is very satisfying. This guy is just boring. Give me a quad-barrel shotgun to kill him with and I'd be happy.

>>5632795
OH FUCK DELETE

>>5632795
What the fuck

>>5632795
oh gosh diggity darn it
somebody left the door open to the double pain dimension

>>5632783
Can't forget that in the last level in Postal you shot up a school.

>>5632683
Why is it tasteless? You're not supposed to laugh at them or jerk off to them. It's there for the horror factor. Cause the aliens aren't just kidnapping them to have consensual sex with, theyre some evil bastards.
>>5632735
Didnt the N64 version actually change it so you can "save" them?

>>5632795

>>5632813
But all the kids are invincible, and look the same, and act like you don’t exist.

>>5632808
The Freedoom pain dimension really is something else.

>>5632828
Who the hell pissed all over the floor?

>>5632828
They're judging you.

Getting back into doom to play Sigil and Eviternity. My ZDL seems fucked and won't load the mods. Doesn't make a difference if I load Sigil first or last.

What extremely simple thing am I missing?

>>5632836
They know about all the proprietary software I own.

>>5632849
Usually best to load the maps first but I don't see anything immediately wrong here since there shouldn't be anything in the way of conflicts.

In Hideous Destructor, is there a way to add more Loadout slots, or are you always going to have 20 max?

I know they're just text strings that you could save somewhere else and switch them up whenever you want, but still, just curious.

>>5632849
Are your file paths up to date? It looks to me like you at one point moved your "Doom stuff" folder into a "Non-Steam Games" folder without telling ZDL where your files moved to.

>>5632849
>SIGIL - Ultimate Doom
>Eviternity - Doom 2
????????????????????

>>5632857
ah piss, thanks

>>5632859
I fucked uuuuup. Nevermind.

>>5632195
has some weird changes for the gameplay that you won't notice until you compare it to vanilla source ports
>wall run glitch fixed
>props block shoots and projectiles
>the shitty night vision mode being on by default
>you can still hear doomguy going unf when humping shootable walls, making it harder to detect

couldn't fully color the whole thing i don't have red and brown hope you guys do not mind my drawings here

>>5632879
3/4ths of those can be changed in the options. Although they're not really easy for new players to learn about / find

>>5632879
any way to fix that?

>>5632879
Wall running doesn't work? Man, I must've been imagining things then.

>>5632879
what's that thing that causes wider enemies to be hard to chainsaw? Blockmap bug? Does setting GZDoom's compat flags to strict vanilla change this?

>>5632880
You know for a fact we mind
You are just posting to be a shit

Are there any alternatives to ketchup mod? It no longer works with latest gzdoom

>>5632003
>>5632015
hedon's worms are different, have a different proportion and animation

>>5632920
bolognese is its official successor

>>5632920
universal gibs, nashgore

>>5632920
nashgore.

Can someone confirm if Chocolate-doom netplay is compatible with crispy-doom netplay?

speaking of crispy, can you load wads the same way other sourceports with ZDL?
I always get nothing, and I have the IWADS

>>5632962
Works with ZDL for me, dunno what could be different.

>>5632946
I wouldn't be surprised if the were since crispy is a fork of chocolate. You could probably test for yourself with both open.

Also, for anyone here. Have you ever got marshmallow doom to work?

>>5632962
It works with ZDL just fine.

I should try and get MetaDoom off GitHub just to see how it plays and if there's anything wrong with it or just to dick around.
Funny that Sigil led to such big activity in these threads right before E3.

>>5632975
It’s pretty good.

>>5632969
>>5632971

nope, Its acting like the IWAD file its missing despite ZDL being properly configured, it works with GZDoon and PRBoom

maybe the path is too long? but if that is the case why is it working for the other sourceports?
I even tried leaving copies of the IWADS in the crispy directory

I like SmoothDoom's enhanced gore option. It's a bit less excessive with the blood everywhere than some of the alternatives and the custom gibs are nice looking.

>>5632989
It does look nice, I don't even feel the need to load up a gore mod with it.

>>5632815
>Didnt the N64 version actually change it so you can "save" them?
Yes, and I believe the idea was carried over to Zero Hour and Manhattan Project too.

is there any crispy doom equivalent to quake? or shiuld I just use console commands?

Beat Sigil with Freedoom, not sure what all the GGGGmanlives/Icaruslives fuss over unfair difficulty was about.

Also what gives with sucky Youtubers having "lives" in their name when they die all the time and get bitchy about it?

Can anyone identify the mod used here for the gore effects? I love the way bits and pieces of the monsters are splattered around the level, without the buckets of blood everywhere you see in most gore mods. Thanks.

https://youtu.be/6leHvnF65zg

>>5633021
Cuz they're expecting to live, duh

What are some good "metroidvania" maps with a lot of exploration, backtracking and atmosphere?

>>5633026
>FWWM
Good taste, anon

>>5633026
Don't get why people watch streamers who don't even commentate.
To answer your question it's most likely something mod specific or just nashgore with some of the sliders turned down.

>>5632724
so what are your settings on vanilla essence?

>>5633045
I just want to see the game and not have some obnoxious "Heeeeeeey everyone, how's it going?" play over the game audio.

>>5632986
Are there spaces or weird characters in your name? The only other thing I can think is that you're missing something else that crispy doom needs. Try command line.

>>5633048

everything vanilla except dynamic lights enabled and I think the palette disabled, or whatever, because otherwise none of the colors would render at all, I think it was forcing the game to run in the Doom palette

>>5631831
Could someone please post the link to Nashgore 1.0 ?

Some anon mentioned it a few threads ago, but as far as I know only 0.9 is out. So either they meant that, or they meant 1.0 is only being distributed to testers at the moment?

>>5633045
Screensaver or a good way to see game play without having an annoying 12 year old begging me to like comment and subscribe.

bros I'm scared that in 10 years time many wads will be lost along w their download links

ended up using a batch file to run the wad I wanted

something Im noticing is that you can use a custom soundfont in Crispy, Im not educated in soundfonts at all but the github says you can direct your timidity config file here, which I don't have, I assume I have to create one myself?

so how do I get this thing to use arachno soundfont for example?

>>5633061
Why aren't you backing them up then?

>>5631831

>>5633049
>>5633058
I mean you could just play the game. I'm not talking about constant commentary I just don't get watching something that's mostly silence. A guy like Jerma can have non-irritating commentary without minutes long deadspace.
To each their own I guess.

>>5633061
Start backing stuff up then. Isn't the entire idgames archive like 16 GiB in total? I should DL that just for prosperity desu.

>>5633061
This has been happening all along, some mods like the latest version of Fractal Doom almost entirely vanished from the internets because a few central hosting sites went down.

>>5633042

>>5633071
Sometimes you don't want to download something and just see what it is first.

>>5633061
Do what I do - keep a backup of your favourite wads and mods on a couple of external harddrives (and obviously not ones that are connected to your computer all the damn time, its asking for them to wear out quickly)

>>5633071
The only reason I'd be watching a game is if I have interest in it without buying it myself first.
Jerma's shit is pretty awful too with the constant sub/donation notifications made by people who try too hard to be noticed.

Friendly reminder that the entire English Wikipedia is only 70 gb with images. You have no excuse to not make offline backups of things.

>>5633069
when the hell is this mapset coming out

>>5633075
>Fractal Doom
is the latest 0.2.4?

>>5633083
I don't find the sub stuff that annoying but that's neither here nor there.

I love Doom to death but it murders my fucking stupid autism because there's just so much of it.
>man this map pack is really fun but it will take a while to get through, maybe that other wad would be more fun, but what if this one gets even better and I miss out on the rest of it?
>man this mod is really fun, but I should play this wad vanilla for the first time for the "pure" experience and then play it again with a mod, but then what would be the best gameplay mod to play it, or what if the author doesn't like people playing their maps with mods, or what if I don't have time to come back and play it again with mods

>>5633089
I know that feel. I've got like four different ZDL scripts depending on what kind of music I want to listen to when playing through the official iwad and pwads.

>>5633087
0.2.4b

>>5633089
>giving a shit what the author thinks
Autism indeed

>>5633102
>four
I've got around 150 for different mod/map/engine combinations and testing environments for my own stuff.

>>5633103
Here's a link to it I guess.
Wasn't that hard to find.
https://allfearthesentinel.net/zandronum/download.php?file=fd_za2_v0.2.4b.wad

>>5633112
Not that hard to find with tspg up again, at the time it had been down for a fair while.

whenever i think about doom modders as whole, i wonder what was their first projects
like, what did kegan or term worked before even being noticeable at all?
i also realized doom might outlive most of its original creators

Is there a way to force pistol starts on map change in HD?
I remember that there was a command like that but I never got it to work.

>>5633140
>might
It's a guarantee that it will

>>5633140
Term's was this.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/hexen/0-9/13-rgr

Please remove HDoom from the recommended wads in the op imgur post. That wad is NOT allowed to be discussed in any way shape or form on this general, no matter how inoffensive the discussion is. I even got confirmation from a mod that this wad is NOT to be discussed here - it is to ONLY be discussed in porn boards. It is misleading and will result in more unjustified bans in the future to uninformed and curious anons.

I don't think this post is breaking any rules but I'm sure it will be removed regardless.

>>5633164
fuck off retard

>>5633164
just let it go nigga

>>5633164
You got yourself banned for posting tits, stop sperging out and trying to make it anybody's fault but your own.

>>5633085
when you lose your virginity.

>>5633164
Imagine being so retarded that you expected people who do it for free to do a good job

>>5633164
That's a lotta words for "Mods are fags", though you didn't have to make a new thread for it.
H-Doom has been discussed plenty of times here so the mod is obviously the retard in this situation, just ban evade, mods are subhuman and don't deserve respect.

>>5633164
>that underboob though

>>5633164
>the level of intelligence expected from a fan of that mod

Oh nononononono *WHEEZE*

>>5633179
but those other tits are fine?

>>5633183
I didn't make a thread. I posted in this DOOM general.

>>5633191
Fuck off, DKG.

>>5631831
Please post your Hideous Destructor loadouts. Be it memes, optimized and tacticool, or challenge, post em.

Ideally in code form so they're easily copypastable to gzdoom.ini

>>5633184
that pic has been posted plenty of times before with no bans, Its easy to interpret those shadows as nipples but no one has seen any issue with that until this poor sod got banned

>>5633191
So he's even more of a retard, amazing.

>>5633140
The doom wiki has a "body of work" section for a bunch if modders, but it's usually not complete. Might be a good place to start.

also it has nothing to do with the tit, I_NEED_ABIB told me it was exclusively because its a porn wad

hdoom sucks anwyasy, shame no good lewd mods

>>5633196
i was saying its hot i dont care if its nipples or not im not a mod not my job to give a fuck

>>5633181
better start building that time machine, because you now owe my past self a fucking mapset

>>5633202
All lewd mods are inherently garbage because the only people who make them do so because they aren't capable of making actually good mods.

>>5633191
>but those other tits are fine?
Yes.
>>5633196
Calling him a poor sod makes it sound like he wasn't being an imbecile by posting uncensored tits on a blue board.

>>5633164
Just censor your posts.

>>5633201
yeah well he's a retard, and you're now an even bigger retard for complaining about it

>>5633195
>loadouts
I just use the pistol start and procure my hardware on site, loadouts always felt like some kinda cheat to me, it's as if you'd skip the hobo-phase in a STALKER game.
It's pretty much the best part until you reach the point where you're a fat fuck full of medkits and ammo lumbering about.

>>5633214
the bottom right pair of tits its even more explicit and obvious than that hddoom pic is and it was a fucking OP post that stayed up

>>5633217
From how I play I don't like to become a fat fuck, I prefer to stay consistent with my loadout throughout the playthrough for flavor, only deviating to other weapons temporarily when appropiate

>>5633164
are you that other guy, again?
every time you get your posts removed you throw a multi-thread tantrum.

you need to seriously re-evaluate your priorities, bro.

>>5633221
>suggestive shadows are more explicit than bare nipples
No.

>>5632813
I'm pretty sure that's a dream sequence but I get your point

>>5633224
So you take more of a "roleplay" approach when playing HD, you're a muhreen that's been trained for a specific role in your squad, so that's what you know.
I pretty much take the "canon" doomguy approach with the pistol start and the looter gameplay.
Though I sometimes make a loadout that's the non-bullpup liberator with ammo and a soldier kit, so I can LARP as a rhodieboy.

>>5633227
>every time you get your posts removed you throw a multi-thread tantrum.
No I only posted once about it after I was banned and my post was instantly removed

Ok, now this faggotry got me curious

I SUMMON THEE CRUELPASTRY
MASTER OF CRASH ABS AND CUTE BUFF BUN
AND ALSO SOME OTHER IMAGES THAT MAY APPEAL TO RATHER EXOTIC DEVIANT TASTES

Are those shadows or nipples? I know you lurk here you rascal

>>5633243
>UAC ad
>Baron of Hell as mascot
bigthunks.jpg

>>5633243
Those are hands.

>>5633250
Maybe it’s the nu-UAC from 2016. The one with the demon worshipping cult.

I have a hankering to write something. A short story or something, idfk right now. But I want to know everything about the UAC. The wikis feel to me like they only really scratch the surface.
I want to find all the fluff. All the technobabble for stuff they made and everything.
I know Doom isn't known for deep plot but I find this sort of stuff interesting to read, at the very least.

>>5633164
The real question is why the mods are so buttblasted about hdoom when they clearly don't care about all the smutty non-hdoom images.

Now I remember that mods refused to delete Daisy furshit when I reported it even though it was obvious anthro garbage that was against the rules for as long as this shithole existed.

>>5633264
They probably don't care either way, the image he posted was the uncensored/uncropped one and all of his examples of unfair standards aren't anywhere near that.

tl;dr he posted nips and has sperged ever since.

>>5633264
Probably because there were very clear nipples in the image. Nothing left to interpretation. Probably why pic related is fine but an actual realistic penis isn't. They're both clearly dicks, but at least this one leaves something to the imagination.
You can discuss HDoom just fine, but outright nudity is banned across all blue boards.
Mods are always fags though.

>>5633207
Rosie Palms doesn't count.

>>5633264
>clearly don't care about all the smutty non-hdoom images.
Mods banned a dude who was making a succubus mod for doom. He kept posting nude 3d animated sprites without censoring and eventually got banned the second time he did it.

>>5633309
Sucks cause those were some decent-looking sprites for a good idea of a mod but he gave up after that.

>>5633280
>those
>shadows
It's obvious they're the bottom part of nipples. It's fine though, I don't see reason for the outrage

>>5633271
>tl;dr he posted nips and has sperged ever since.
this is pretty much the long and short of it

it's a complete non-issue that doesn't take a genius to figure out

Has anyone tried to extract Wolfstone 3D from The New Colossus? I want to play it on ECWolf

>>5633371
I don’t think so.

>>5633243
hey how's it going.
I'm trying to edit the latest smooth update because gifty still won't fucking fix the shotgun ticrate. it's 44 in total not 48. I'm also taking out the dumb looking screenshaking and recoil zooming. shouldn't take long. I'll upload a weapons only variant also so people don't have to play with smooth enemies on if they don't wish to.

>Are those shadows or nipples
oh those are areolas. the darkened area surrounding yer nipples. that's what she has. we all have those.

Why zoomers are so obsessed in turning Doom into something like this: https://youtu.be/WjhJ-2SjW30 ? How dare they still call this thing Doom?

>>5633394
sacrilege desu, disgusting, brutal doom is my limit of nu nonsense and even that's very pushing it, nothing beats the feel and balance of the stock weapons

>>5633394
please find something to do other than obsessively shitposting
you could be so much better than this

>>5633394
zoomer is a buzzword. the problem is normies and always has been since brutal doom started

>>5633390
oh, I would totally dig that smooth doom edit
thanks for the clarification, my english is a bit limited sometimes so I forgot you dont call the whole thing a nipple

how ya doing nigga? your daisy pics gave me a couple of ideas for a mod so I was wondering if you would take a commission for the title art, my skills are still sorely lacking so that may take longass time but eh, just wondering

>>5633394
>>5633407
I still don't know if it's V*syan himself posting them, or someone who stalks him and posts them to troll /doom/

>>5633329
Yeah that walking animation was great. Don't know why he just couldn't accept his ban and just censor his future uploads instead of calling it quits.

>>5633414
oh! uh, sure. thanks for the invite. yeah i guess I could do a piece or two for you. hit me up on the tumblrs when you're able.

>>5633426
>invite
if you got an invite for anything that wasn't me

but I'll hit you up sometime if you still check your DMs or whatever you call them in that god forsaken website

>>5633390
yo, quick question. did you do this one as well?

what the fuck is going on here

Is there a DOOM option for addon mod for co-op that disables respawning, or at the very least limits it? Kind of removes all challenge from the game when all players can just respawn infinitely with no punishment.

>>5633452
Yes.

What's a good guide to get started with Hideous Destructor?

>>5633451
Same. I'm gonna wait the rest of this thread out. Too many furries and whiners.

>>5633451
/v/irgins can't take a hint.

>>5633452
Pretty sure survival co-op in Zandro has lives out of the box.

hahahaha they actually deleted it what rule was I breaking this time?

dang, Ancient Aliens seems broken in Crispy, I'm not surprised but still

cant smoke the pipe despite being able to open the door

>>5633492
It's a Boom wad, not limit-removing.

>>5633492
AA needs a boom compatible port. i think all crispy does is raise some limits.

>>5633195
can I post mine again?

>>5633492
Pretty sure it requires boom features

>>5633492
It's cause it's a boom megawad. Crispy ain't got boom format support, and never will. Should use PrBoom+ or any source port that's boom compatible.

>>5633492

I got Doom Retro to be almost exactly like Crispy/Chocolate if you want some help

Blood received Another Update today

>>5633504
Is there a changelog? Still holding out.

>>5633496
Of course you can

>>5633217
>>5633224
>>5633236
>>5633195

I'll post the compilation of the ones I've seen in these threads + also the suggested ones from the HD wiki + some I've seen Eric use:

hd_loadout16=AbsoluteUnit: fis, vul, 450 5, bat, awb, zrk 2 - rev, 355 36, arg, arb, med, stm 2, zrk 2, lad, hrp, saw
hd_loadout15=Sharpshooter: bos, hun, rev, shl 8, 355 24, 7mm 20, awg, lit, bat, med.
hd_loadout14=Cowboy: rev, 355 300, lad, frg 12, awg
hd_loadout13=Pointman: thu, bat 6, z66, 450 3, sol -
hd_loadout12=Ranger: STFKILL0#Ranger: sla, lau, z6a, rkt 6, rkh, shl 20, 450, awg, med, zrk 2
hd_loadout11=Dante: pia, pia, sla, awb, 915 12, shl 12
hd_loadout10=DsgnMrksmn: lna, pis, 730 2, awg - 730 4, 915 2, med, stm 2, lit, bat, lad, frg 3
hd_loadout9=Lumberjack: saw, pis - bat 4, med, 9mm 50, lad
hd_loadout8=Requisitions: z6s, slg, 450 3, pis, 915 2, med, stm 2, awg, lad, lit - med 2, stm 3, zrk 2, rad 2, lit, ied 4, lad, 915 2, 450 7, bat 3, frg 4, drp 2, frt 10>
hd_loadout7=Berserker: zrk 8, awg, med, stm 2 - zrk 142
hd_loadout6=Conqueror: bro, brb 2, lia, 730, pia, 915 3, frg 2, drp, awb - med, stm 2, zrk, rad, lit, bat, 7mm 50, brb 18, lad
hd_loadout5=Breacher: hun, shl 50, pis, 915 3, med, stm 2, awb, lit, lad, bat, drp, slg, frg 4 - shl 200, dbs 100, med, stm 2, 2fm 10, arg
hd_loadout4=Devastator: bfg, thu, bat 9, awb, pia, 915 3, med, stm 3, rkt 3, ied 3, frg 4, rad, lit
hd_loadout3=Huntsman: bos, 7mm 50, lad
hd_loadout2=Operator: z6s, awb, frg 3, pis, 450 4, 915 2
hd_loadout1=Minigunner: vul, awg, smg - med, stm 2, 930 4, 450 10

>>5633504
which one
we've got three different flavors at this point

>>5633510
correction to Requisitions**
Requisitions: z6s, slg, 450 3, pis, 915 2, med, stm 2, awg, lad, lit - med 2, stm 3, zrk 2, rad 2, lit, ied 4, lad, 915 2, 450 7, bat 3, frg 4, drp 2, frt 10, wrt 10, 2fm 4, 7br 90

>>5633508
>>5633513
https://steamcommunity.com/games/1010750/announcements/detail/1612765261451213302

>>5633452
You can also halve ammo on respawn

>>5633519
I hope blood gets some Neat art from now on, this one is still a classic and rare gem.

>>5633519
> mod specific fixes
cool

https://youtu.be/wdCerY2J3Z8

>>5633519
When are they going to release the console versions?

>>5633503
can you disable the whole reactive soundtrack thing?

what do you guys think of marathon?

>>5633556
unironically one of the worst games i have ever played

>>5633539
This is rad as heck. Also, I really wish the soundfonts came close to what the SC-55 sounds like, it's so fucking nice.

How is sigil? I was hype asf for it but then suddenly the aussie who larps as an oldfag says its bad.

>>5633576
Just play it yourself.

I have been slowly picking away at my first map. If I posted it as-is now could I get some advice and pointers on it?

>>5633576
it's free, fucking download it an find out for yourself dumbass

>>5633583
I would.

>>5633583
nigga I say go for it

say what you will about this general but its one of the best places to post your shit and get feedback

Found a pretty good Roland SC-55 soundfont floating around. It's not perfect but it's definitely more accurate than the default GZDoom soundfont.
https://mega.nz/#!NBJHzYAC!nhIQPNpcotXl2iwdoWcGS8Pem3cyargCiXH3S-dPSJA

>>5633591
>>5633592
Kay. I will do it after work today.

>>5633576
Played through it a day or two ago. (only on Hurt Me Plenty, doing Ultra-Violence right now)
It's good, fortunately. Gman was complaining about lighting, but I have no fucking clue what he was talking about because it was just fine. He also complains about difficulty, but he neglected to consider that possibly the difficulty settings are actually balanced (i.e Hurt Me Plenty is actually "Medium", and Ultra-Violence is actually hard and not "lol doom 1 is easy" tier). He also complains about it not having Doom 2 assets, when it's spelled out on the download page that it's a Doom 1 mapset meant to resemble an Episode 5 to Doom 1.

I think Gman Just quickly downloaded GZDoom and Sigil, and booted it up into Ultra-Violence without reading or thinking or tweaking settings just so he could be the first one to have a review out.

Aside from Gman's autism, SIGIL is good, and it is about as hard as it should be, even on medium. It presents enough challenge that it's not ballbusting, but it will kick your ass if you aren't paying attention, and the later levels present a decent challenge. Environments and encounters are varied, and it's a lot more vertical than original Doom 1. it also looks really fucking good imo.

>>5633576
I'd say average/above average, has some neat bits, has some bits that are kind of boring, community has made a lot better maps over the years.

Still wouldn't take the opinion of Youbers who harp on about it being unfairly difficult as being worth much, the ones that have gone down that path seem to really suck at the game.

>>5633390
>oh those are areolas. the darkened area surrounding yer nipples. that's what she has. we all have those.
you fool, you've doomed us all from ever being able to post it again

>>5633593
That's the Patch93 one, imo this one is better and has the bonus of being much lighter weight.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7ntR7VRcUecZkVkd042eTE0TWs/view

>>5633550

yes absolutely, everything is optional

>>5632661
Of all the things Duke 64 got wrong, saving babes was not one of them

>>5633629
areolas are suggestive and could be interpreted as anything, really.

I just downloaded Zandronum to try out multiplayer and it's dead as shit. Is this what people use?

>>5633723
I use gzdoom for multiplayer, just look up zdoom multiplayer and change the commands from zdoom to gzdoom. It's fairly easy to setup a bat file to auto start it or you can just use ZDL.

>>5633723
Yes, the community effectively killed itself.

>>5633723
It’s the most alive port but it’s still pretty dead, most of the community exclusively plays 8BDM

>>5633640
It also gave us the grenade launcher and plasma cannon, two of the best duke weapons in the whole series.

>tfw traditionnal doom DM is dead

The more I play Sigil, the more I love it. This is a legendary wad already, and will have huge influence on the community mapping.

>>5633759
Zandro will rarely have a night where people are playing greenman DM, don’t know about Zdaemon and Oda

>>5633624
>community has made a lot better maps over the years.

Which is bullshit. Community edgelords know shit compared to Romero.

>>5633774
>the person who makes a map determines the quality of the map, not the map's quality
I know you're just a baiting shitstain but fuck off.

UV pistol start feels like I'm playing a metroidvania where all paths except the correct one force you to start over.
>didn't get the shotgun from the super out-of-the-way path first? Oh well try again lmao

It really feels like there's no measure of skill here but patience to learn the layout.

>>5633778
No neckbeard, it's a simple statement after Sigil's awesome levels. In fact the secret level has more or less the same quality the community produces, and Romero had some shit levels back then, like Gotcha.

He still can build maps that are on much higher level than the community autists can ever dream of.

>>5633792
>OH GOD ROMERO OOOHHH PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR CUMMIES OOOOH GOD AHHHH I'LL WORK THE SHAFT AND SWALLOW AAAAHHHH PLEASE SHIT IN MY MOUTH
Get a trip so i can filter you.

>>5633764
I can't wait to see the sigil-inspired end maps with a Cyberdemon sat around the corner from a Spider Mastermind on a linear path.

>>5633794
Anon, friendo,
>replying

>>5632137
I'm assuming he means E1M4b and E1M8b

found a download link for sigil's midi ost recorded in an sc 55
https://www.mediafire.com/file/lbeea6jw37w1ezl/S-G-L+MIDI.zip
you can listen to them here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXpWWl4GRw

>>5633805
Good point honestly.

Has anyone tried pistol-starting (wand-starting?) Heretic?
I honestly feel like it wasn't supposed to be played that way at all, ammunition is way too scarce.
Do I just have to gitgud or something?

I have a buddy who's trying out Hideous Destructor on GZD 4.1.2, and any explosions seems to insta-crash his game. Nothing of note in the crash log.

Any ideas what might be causing this? Downgrading GZD isn't really an option since latest HD requires minimum 4.1.0

Would it be a graphic setting that he needs to tune down? He's not playing on low spec hardware either.

>>5633808
THANK YOU BASED ANON!

>>5633820
no problem, now we only need the buckethead ost in .ogg format or the midified version recorded in an sc 55 and we're set

>>5633794
I know you shitmappers envy Romero for being much better at his job than (You). Shit happens.

>>5633807
They are excellent maps. I created a batch file which includes Sigil and these two as well. Hopefully the guy will redo the episode one day. These maps are good, but they don't belong to the original E1.

>>5633835
>Hopefully the guy will redo the episode one day.
He mainly did e1m4 and e1m8 as they weren't his maps originally (Well, he did work on the og e1m4, but it was a touch up of a Tom Hall layout).

Just finished map 26 of Alien Vendetta
Man that's some bullshit

>to get the blue key you need to press a switch inside a baron closet tucked in a corner full of revenants after pressing another switch that lowers two doors with cyberdemons waiting for you
>so you have to effectively go sanic fast but not too fast or you will eat homing rockets from the skellies in the other side
>there are chaingunners in the middle of the hallway
>and the way is paved in pinkies
>also cacos
>and daemon meatballs

either that or you try to play peak-a-boo to get the way cleared after you lure the floaties away and let the cybies friendly fire on everyone, this takes a while

still fun overall I'll admit but jesus that took a lot of saves and retries

>>5633817
Nevermind, apparently it was the Software Renderer's fault. changing from it fixed it

>>5633843
I feel your pain anon. Currently pretty deep in Scythe II which is more of the same AV style craziness. The later levels are brutal on UV.

I'm curious, is there any way to generally do better in pistol starts aside from playing doom so much that you know what the map makers are going to do before they do it/restarting a ton as you feel it out?

I can't stand trial and error and I want to know if there's anything in general I could be doing differently.

Just beat SIGIL on ultra-violence, it was not as hard as I was lead to believe it would be, though I didn't play pistols. Aside from a disappointing last level, I thought it was excellent the whole way through, and I loved the way Cyberdemons were recontextualized as stage hazards, a much more interesting use of them than rocket duels. Overall I think this is my favorite wad so far this year, how did you guys feel about SIGIL?

>>5633864
I'm indifferent, didn't really do much to push me in either direction, the last part of the last level was really fucking weak though.

>>5633576
its good.

Kinda unrelated, but does anyone know if there is a downloadable version of the Quake Champions soundtrack?

>>5633610
>It's good, fortunately. Gman was complaining about lighting, but I have no fucking clue what he was talking about because it was just fine.
He uses the hardware renderer, you can see how fucking blurry his game is. No wonder he couldn't see shit.

>Reading Hideous Destructor manual
>Come across mention of a "Putto" enemy

What the hell is this? What does it look like? I don't think I've ever seen it.

>>5633943
its those cubes that the icon of sin spawns but instead of summoning monsters it fires hell knight/baron projectiles at you
i think barons and hellknights can spawn them actually, only one or two from my experience

>>5633943
They look like Icon of Sin cubes, but they spit balefire at you. Hell Knights and Archviles can summon them at will, and they can occasionally fall out of arachnotrons on death too.

>>5633943
putto parde :DDD

>>5633861
Trial and Error kind of comes with the pistol-start experience, especially when playing blind.

>pistol start

>>5633576
Update. I played it. It wasnt the best wad ever but it was damn good. WishIPreOrdered/10

>>5632397
he needed a gaming chair with lumbar support, that'd get him 12 extra fps right there

>>5633996
Need some blue LEDs to keep that overclocked cpu nice and cool too