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Are there any old games that could be categorized as "weebshit" or at least be considered weebshit ancestor? I know about PC-98 eroge but these are really just VNs rather than fully fleged games.

>> No.5614209

>>5614203
Any JRPG

>> No.5614227

>>5614203
>I know about PC-98 eroge but these are really just VNs rather than fully fleged games.
Clearly you don't really know anything about them.

>> No.5614241

Most games developed at this time period were Japanese, but since the Genesis and accelerating further with each subsequent Playstation console, a larger number of western developed games started making up the libraries lifeblood. Games that we know as weebshit were born simply as a marketing tool to advertise games as being distinctly Japanese; for example people think Dark Souls and Resident Evil are western games despite being made by the Japanese. I'm sure these existed in the /vr/ ages but they weren't as obvious or abundant as they are now.

>> No.5614246

>>5614203
Give a definition of your buzzword first if you want this answered. Or better yet fuck off back to wherever you came from.

>> No.5614249

>>5614203
Kendo Rage

>> No.5614273

>>5614241
People keep forgetting how big Japanese culture was in the 80s through the early 2000s. People like Japanese shit now, but back then everyone fucking loved it.

>> No.5614328
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5614328

The thing is, back in the 80s and 90s, there was no "weebshit" in the way we mean nowadays.
Japanese media in the west was seen as weird, alternative and cool. The notion of someone who "obsess over japanese culture" was more tied to martial artist guys like Steven Seagal than comic or animation fans, I guess.
For video games, it wasn't even a question. Unless you were a PC guy who played mostly FPSs and RTSs, you knew the best shit was coming from Japan. And nobody accused others of being "weebs" or whatever because everyone was playing japanese games.
Pre-internet/social media was a simpler time I guess.

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5614336

I feel like the definition of "weebshit" changes daily but here's a PC Engine ad poster you might like, OP.

>好みのあの娘に、DUOなら出会える。
>You can meet the girl you like, on DUO.

>> No.5614348

>>5614273
The difference was that people liked giant robots, ninjas and crazy strong dudes beating the shit out of each other.

Nowadays liking japanese shit means spamming old memes, watching flavor of the month cute girls anime and playing neptunia. Bonus points for being confused about owns sexuality and being a discord regular.

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5614365

Gokinjou Boukentai, I'm translating it and every character is a typical anime stereotype. Very weeb

>> No.5614490

>>5614348
From what I've seen it's the opposite. Modern westerners like anime because it's "masculine", even though that's not the intent nor strength of Japanese media.

>> No.5614709

>>5614209
This.

Let's not forget the TG16. That's the impression I got of it at the time, anyway

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>>5614203
Here is a actual weeb game. A western game that apes Japanese style.

If you're going to use that fucking buzzword, least use it correctly. Stop using "weebshit", or "weeb" to describe basic ass otakubait games.

>> No.5614735

>>5614348
nah that's being an ironic weeb. Normalfags like shonenshit like dbz or my hero academia and other shit like Jojo or Attack on Titan.

>> No.5614741

>>5614241
>Games that we know as weebshit were born simply as a marketing tool to advertise games as being distinctly Japanese


This game is probably the best /vr/ example of a western game being marketed as 'Japanese'

You started seeing a lot more of it post-2000 with games like Oni

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>>5614741
forgot pic

>> No.5614753

>>5614746
It still pisses me off that that game wasn't more polished. I feel like it's one of the few retro games that really does need a remake since it had so many ambitious ideas that they just couldn't pull off at the time.

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>>5614203

>> No.5614814 [DELETED] 

>>5614490
>Modern westerners like anime because it's "masculine"
Holy shit please tell me this isn't what weebs actually believe

>> No.5614823

You talking artstyle specifically? Because if so anything with the 90s anime aesthetic works. Otherwise I'll need a clearer definition.

>> No.5614828

>>5614490
Most anime nowadays is cutesy and basic looking.

>> No.5614838

>>5614828
>Most anime nowadays is cutesy and basic looking.
very sad and true
A major reason I come to /vr/ is to see Japanese art before it went to shit.

>> No.5615306

>>5614838

Soothing.

>> No.5615647

>>5614273
Long story short, I'd say the '80s were more of an ignorant time when it came to Japanese stuff; people knew that plenty of cool things were Japanese in origin but generally didn't know too much yet about how broad and varied their pop culture was. (I originally started composing this post with a list, but it made the post too long.) The early '90s sharp rise of anime's popularity in the West was the real catalyst.

>> No.5615687

>>5614273
Zoomers can't remember shit that happened before they were born

>> No.5615696

>>5614203
>32BIT
Neptune?!

>> No.5616208

Anything exclusive to 80s Japan, right?

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>> No.5616298

>>5614328
Well it's important to keep in mind that Japan was taking as much if not more inspiration from western media at the time as well. Shit was just seen as cool either way. So the anime aesthetic was a lot less weeb and more genre specific.

>> No.5616365

anime back in the 80s and 90s was so fuckin awesome. it had a distinctive look but wasn't overly polished or glossy looking... what happened?

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5616372

>>5614828
>>5614838
>Most anime nowadays is cutesy and basic looking
Okay so just like the eighties and nineties then once you remove your nostalgia goggles.

>> No.5616391

>>5616372

yeah but this stuff had a sense that it was 'real'. cutesy anime now is all glossy and flash animation looking. I would way rather watch sailor moon than any cutesy magical girl shit now.

>> No.5616421

>>5616391
>that it was 'real'
It's the lack of copious details and handdrawn touches, right? Good times

>> No.5616487

>>5614814
Most of my non-weeb friends like One Punch Man, Hunter X Hunter and Dragonball. What do you think regular people like about anime?

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>>5616365
Computers happened. Why animate when you can 'animate' for a fraction of the cost?

>> No.5616609

>>5616490
I dont blame them for using computers, I'm just saying something was lost when they switched over. lost some soul, I guess.

>>5616421
exactly. mostly the handdrawn aspect. for some reason its just more pleasing to my eyes, and I feel like a lot of people feel the same way.

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>>5616391
It's funny how Sailor Moon was once accused of killing the true classic anime. Every decade we have the same shit.

>> No.5616956
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5616956

Call me back when there's a modern moe series like Dream Hunter Rem.

>> No.5617008

>>5614203

Anime otaku games have always been around, so yes.

There are a lot of j-rpgs, ecchi, life sim, etc games like this.

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>>5614328
>The thing is, back in the 80s and 90s, there was no "weebshit" in the way we mean nowadays.

There absolutely was. There was "normal" Japanese games meant for a broad audience, but there was also niche titles for moe loving otakus too. Most of these never left glorious Nippon.

Mostly visual novel type games. Princess Maker, the Tokimeki Memorial series, etc.

Tokimeki Memorial is probably the most notable, but it spawned so many immitators. That game was also written by Igarashi, who hints that his wife co-wrote much of it.

>> No.5617031

>>5616609
>lost some soul, I guess
That's literally what happened. Older anime was drawn and animated almost exclusively by people, but as time went on the human element became smaller and smaller. Before we know it the characters will be designed by machines programmed to adhere to a carefully constructed baseline for maximum appeal.

>> No.5617041

>>5614203
Weeb is short for weeaboo, a word filter put on /a/ to stop the use of the word "wapanese" or "wanna be japanese"

So you're asking what old games could be classified as western games trying to be japanese?

>> No.5617049

>>5617031
We're at the point where it already seems like most anime characters are designed by an AI. There's not sort of personal touch. just a bunch of appealing elements mashed together to pander to an audience that throws away their money on worthless PVC figures.

>> No.5617062

>>5616956
>my gay cringy shit is better than your gay cringy shit

>> No.5617064

Most of the thread is talking about art style when in reality it's really the scripts that are (have always been) terrible. Japanese can't write stories worth a damn

>> No.5617071

>>5617062
Go back to /a/

>> No.5617073 [DELETED] 

>>5617071
Go burn in hell, affeminated tranny

>> No.5617075

>>5617073
Ok faggot

>> No.5617080

>>5617075
By the dream whore rem is shit.

>> No.5617090

is this an /a/ thread? is this an alternate timeline?

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>tfw even the biggest otakubait from the 80's and 90's had pure SOUL.

>> No.5617469

Art changes. From ancient cave paintings in somalia to modern cartoons in france. All around the world, the standard for art changes, improving or regressing depending on your views. I don’t see why you guys would think anime is anything special. Grow up and move on.

>> No.5617850

>>5614203
She's way too close to that television.

>> No.5617989

>>5617049
it's so different now and really why there should be an /ar/ board. I'd post there as often as I do in /vr/.

>> No.5618009

>>5617989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2R7t2SUo3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcyZc3bhyM
*opens can of monster*
Ah yes,
*fills up glass*
80s were the best time for pedophile cartoons. They've missed out. They've missed out.

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>>5618009

>> No.5618224

>>5618170

aw yee nigga, bubblegum crisis

>> No.5618385

>>5618224
Ah ye very masculine cartoon, definitely not moeshit at all

>> No.5618406

>>5617989
You know, it already exists and it's called /m/
There are also youtube channels and reddit subs dedicated to old anime, you don't have to be tied to 4chan for over 2 decades of your life.

>> No.5618408

>>5618385
You got that right.

>> No.5618446

Is this the point in the thread where I sing Konya wa Hurricane and yell "ROVING YOU!" Because as a BOOMER*, I'll do it.

* FUCK YOU and GTFO if you don't get this

>> No.5618480

>>5614203
>>5614336
>>5614716
>>5614735
>>5616487
>>5617041

People who use weeb as a derogatory on 4chan are always funny to me.

>> No.5618516

>>5614490
No, they like it because they're manchildren who play it to regress bcause they can't handle their own myopic existance.
>>5616391
Found the pedoweeb.
>>5617989
Contain the wapanese.

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>> No.5618574
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5618574

>>5616947
I love these.

>> No.5618582
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5618582

>>5618574

>> No.5618596

>>5618009
That Gologo 13 clip looks ridiculous now but goddamn, it was fucking NINETEEN EIGHTY THREE. That's insane, the very definition of pushing boundaries and SOUL in anime. Hell it was still two years before 'Money for Nothing' made primitive CG cool. Rock Me Nora on the other hand is just laughably bad.

>> No.5618601

>>5614273
Anime wasn’t popular until the Pokémon cartoon show

>> No.5618604

>>5614490
>Modern westerners like anime because it's "masculine"
If by “modern” you mean “back 25 years ago”

>> No.5618606

>>5618406
>youtube channels
I watch a lot of good stuff on those, yes.
>reddit subs
Fuck no, I hate the way reddit works.

>> No.5618614

>>5618601
I remember seeing Sailor Moon on UPN all the time, and maybe DBZ was starting to become popular on Cartoon Network in 1997 (can't confirm because can't remember). I had also a copy of Superbook and rented Fushigi Yugi prior to 1998. All that said, I think you're right. There was no Japanese cartoon that entered mainstream before Pokemon was on Kids WB (or before it was on there, maybe).

>> No.5618615

>>5618604
>25 years ago”
That's about right, Maybe a little less than 25. There was a point of time when stuff like Ninja Scroll was popular and anime was seen as "Cartoons, but now with tits and bloody violence!"

>> No.5618626

>>5618606
We're too old to still be playing online turf wars, anon. Most channers are also on reddit.

>> No.5618627

>>5618582
To be fair cosmic fantasy is the most generic DQ clone I've ever seen.

>> No.5618637

>>5618626
It's not about any factionalism, reddit has a shit layout and the system discourages discussion in favor of popularity-hunting.

>> No.5618638

>>5618408
This video is unedited by the way.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICa1_cmCZbM

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>>5618638
Ah yeah my favorite part is how the american dub actually dubbed over the vocal songs, which are a huge part of Bubblegum Faggotry. And old weebs will defend this atrocity with all their might.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUtmiwZr9iw

>> No.5618648

>>5618637
Sorry man, I'm too old for this oldfag garbage. There's nothing good about getting old anyway you just become jaded, you start to need glasses to be able to read and your back and knees start to hurt.

>> No.5618683

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar9OCG1YudA

ROVING
YOU

>> No.5618710

>>5618648
Most likely you're at most 30 something years "old", your eyes are bad from playing WoW in a dark basement and your knees and back hurt because they have to support 300+ lbs of blubber.

>> No.5618718

>>5618710
I"m past 30 and Reddit might actually enjoy weebshit more than 4chan does at this point. This site now defends the opposite values it used to have.

>> No.5618720

>>5618683
Watch this and explain how is this not garbage?

>> No.5618910

>>5618406
>You know, it already exists and it's called /m/

Can you talk about non mecha manga and anime over there?

>> No.5619131

>>5618910
As long as a washing machine or whatever appears in whatever you're talking about or you go "did you know that famous mecha designer Obari did the character designs for (non-M Anime)?" you can get away with just about anything

>> No.5619174

>>5618601
Look another stupid fucking kid.

Speed Racer,Astroboy and Robotech were all popular animes before the shit that is Pokemon started.

>> No.5619197

>>5618614
Sailor Moon was somewhat big in America in the mid 90s. Dunno if it quite reached "mainstream" though. I remember that and Ronin Warriors on tv on weekday afternoons.

>> No.5619259

>>5614716
Looks exactly like Power drift too

>> No.5619272

>>5614365
Good luck in your project, anon!

>> No.5619428

>>5618516

I'm not a pedo you're just projecting, faggot

>> No.5619651

>>5619174
I did watch speed racer as a kid, it was very slow paced and cliché with silly characters. 90% of the show was close ups of people talking and only 10% had good animation. A lot of obviously reused animation among episodes too.

>> No.5619774

>>5618718
So I nailed it on the age, how'd I do on the rest?

>> No.5619793

>>5618638
>getting upset that women are exercising

>> No.5619794

>>5619774
People are not as good mind readers as they think they are. I wish I were the underage communist faggot you think I am, it would have been a huge improvement from my current situation.

>> No.5619802

>>5619793
It's still moeshit.

>> No.5619817

>>5619802
Keep telling yourself that, hambeast.

>> No.5619858
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Variable Geo may be considered weeb shit

>> No.5619862

>>5619858
According to OP it's a "VN" and not a game.

>> No.5620010
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>>5617014
>Lizzie Shinkicker
I see you are an anon of taste

>> No.5620030

>>5617427
your nostalgia is blinding you. The eyes on the left were in every anime of the time, only Pokemon comes to mind as an exception. The eyes on the right only really appear in moeblob shows, with other shows having their own styles.

>> No.5620056

>>5614203
Final Fantasy

>> No.5620065

>>5618574
>>5618582
>every 20 years anime goes mainstream in the west and then dies
can't wait for it to die and go underground again so that the non-tikthot weebs can go back to having their comfy little group therapy communities. The current state of legal streaming might be the beginning of the end for the current wave

>> No.5620091

>>5619197
It did. Remember the Barenaked Ladies song?

>> No.5620092

>>5619817
Just embrace the fact you're a cringy 30 year boomer who gets off to pedophile cartoons.

>> No.5620093

>>5620091

Canadian band. Sailor Moon for whatever reason did better in Canada than USA.

>> No.5620095

>>5620065
So basically you've outed yourself as a hipster?
Thankfully the creepy shit I'm into is so reprimandable it will never ever be mainstream.

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>>5620092
>pedo shitslinging already
It's some women doing dumb 80s aerobics like literally every show on the air back then, even here. What's your actual damage?

>> No.5620114

>>5620107
Yes I did watch bubblegum shit, it's fucking garbage. I would have watched LotGH but it's over 100 episodes long, maybe someday I'll eventually get to it.
I don't seem to understand what you losers expect from pedophile cartoons though, it's like you expect it to be high art instead of an adolescent guilty pleasure. It's sad and pathetic that you can't let go of your teenage years when your social life peaked.

>> No.5620121

>>5620030
DB/Z, Yuyu Hakusho, Initial D, etc didn't have eyes anywhere close to the left.

>> No.5620131

>>5620121
It's silly that you get hung up on minute details like eye shapes when the godawful scripts are the giant elephant in the room.

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>>5620131

>>5620030
>your nostalgia is blinding you. The eyes on the left were in every anime of the time
>>5620121
>DB/Z, Yuyu Hakusho, Initial D, etc didn't have eyes anywhere close to the left.
>>5620131
>It's silly that you get hung up on minute details like eye shapes

>> No.5620152

>>5620137
Why does eye shapes matter though, Toryama draws since the 80s of course he's going to have a different style. Why are eye shapes important if everything else about weeabo culture is trash? What Japan needs is a cultural revolution, like the one from the 70s.

>> No.5620167

>>5620152
Japan should make anime apologizing for nanking and unit 731

>> No.5620318

>>5620093
It was just as big throughout the US. I didn't think you'd take my reference to BNL as some kind of regional limiter.

>> No.5620326

>>5614203
Hey OP, are you enjoying your really great thread, with such really great posts and posters in it?

>> No.5620345

>>5620326
Fuck you and fuck weebshit.

>> No.5620396

>>5620095
What creepy shit.

>> No.5620460
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GUN-BASTAAAAH!

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>>5620396
Yes. Stop masturbating to lolis.

>> No.5620472

>>5620460
Imagine being 30 and thinking this looks good.

>> No.5620480

>>5620472
Good thing I'm not 30.
Also,
>being insecure about what you enjoy

>> No.5620492

>>5620345
>Fuck you and fuck western shit that wants to be japanese

>> No.5620549

>>5616365
Same goes for western music. Long story short pc internet SNS and such destroyed everything

>> No.5620565 [DELETED] 

>>5620480
Get the fuck out of here, little kid. You're a pathetic limp wristed faggot.

>> No.5620572

>>5620549
They were never good to begin with.

>> No.5620576

>>5620565
After you, gramps. Don't tell me what I should like.

>> No.5620585 [DELETED] 

>>5620576
God you're more effeminated than I thought. Do you take onions saline injections up your dick you little passive faggot

>> No.5621304

>>5618601
>shit that happened before i was born didn't happen
zoomers. lol

>> No.5621583

>>5621304
Even after the poke craze it was never that popular. Japan is too gay for Americans. The pokemon craze lasted what, 1 year, 2 tops?

>> No.5621681

>>5617427
Right looks better. Left is derivative of 90s character design fads.

But in general I prefer stuff that was hand painted on celluloid to anything digital.

>> No.5621702

>>5621583
20 and counting.

>> No.5621707

>>5620576
>gramps
When laughably-talentless Gen Z gets old, they will have no rhetorical ammo at all.

>> No.5621718

>>5618601
Are you the same kid that tried to argue "no one liked jrpgs before FFVII"?

>> No.5621742

>>5619197
I wonder why anime internationally became "mainstream action cartoons" eventually. Outside of 3D-cartoon movies (like from Pixar and Dreamworks), what happened to the non-Japanese cartoonists? The only non-Japanese action cartoon show that I can think that was popular in the past two decades is Samurai Jack.

>> No.5621750

>>5621702
Zoomer detected. You may have played some of the later games with your friends, but you will never know 1998-2000 Pokemon Everything(TM)

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>>5614203

>> No.5622023

>>5621750
I hope that's ironic

>> No.5622024

>>5621718
He's not wrong, just look at sales numbers. Nintendo even gave up publishing Dragon Warrior games in the west during 4th gen.

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Snes.

>> No.5622103

>>5622035
thanks for the game name, loser

>> No.5622104

>>5622103
Have you tried Google?

>> No.5622105

>>5622103
>i need the name of hentai garbage and am too dumb to find it myself

>> No.5622158

>>5622104
Tried reverse image search but still couldn't find it, name please? Doesn't look like anything on vndb

>> No.5622162

>>5622158
SM調教師瞳

>> No.5622167

>>5622158
Legend of Happy Girl 5

>> No.5622169

>>5622162
Choukyoushi Hitomi - Bangai Hen
So it's an obviously unlincensed tokimeki memorial knockoff

>> No.5622292

>>5622024
Sales compared to what? Fucking Madden? Literally no one said it wasn't niche but to imply the whole genre was this super obscure underground thing before 1997 is just flat out wrong

>> No.5622298

read this guy's entire twitter.

https://twitter.com/Topcor_s/media

>> No.5622321

>>5614716
why does she only have one leg

>> No.5622323

>>5622321
Anon are you blind ? Check top of the pic ! Behind the text !

>> No.5622402

>>5620460
nice

>> No.5622636

>>5618615
right and anon's point is that NOW, in 2019, anime fandom seems dominated by waifufags and moe not mechas and violence.

>> No.5622708

>>5618480
Not shocking though. These days 4chan is all outsider normies coming here to shitpost because they want to feel cool.

>> No.5622786

>>5622636
>>5618615

I remember when anime was seen as edgy and cool, thinking like the Manga entertainment days and when the Scifi channel had the anime block.

Now its all manchildren hugging waifu pillows and masturbating to little girls. I'm sure that was around back then, but it wasn't the face of anime. Anime was cool, deep, violent, dangerous.

Now its trash.

At least we still have the classics.

>> No.5622810

>>5622786
That kind of anime still exists. Letting a fanbase chase you away from something you like is the height of foolishness in my eye. Unless you were never watching because you actually liked it and just wanted to seem edgy and cool for being into something unpopular.

>> No.5622828

>>5622810

It didn't chase me away, I still like some series, but the majority of anime released today is garbage compared to even the worst things back in the day.

I still watch some series, but find myself more and more just diving deep into the classics.

>> No.5622856

Shogo mobile armor devision by monolith studios

>> No.5622972

>>5622292
Final Fantasy sold so poorly we didn't get half the series in the west because it never sold particularly well. They even made Mystic Quest in an attempt to teach dumb HDHD american kids how to grind in repetitive jarpigs. Why are you revising history?

>> No.5622975

>>5622786
Yeah that vision that americans had of cartoons was completely fucking off and I'm glad it corrected itself. Now if only we could do something about lolicon.

>> No.5623215

>>5622828
I confess that Cowboy Bebop was the last series I watched, but I think it was more that I was burnt out on anime rather than the medium changing since I was equally disinterested in old stuff as well. I have some friends who are still into it and seem to like the stuff they watch.

>> No.5623228

>>5622828
I don't think you've watched the worst stuff from the past lmao. By the way you should play this game it has all of the best moments of the shows but none of the filler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Bn8IDXA8C8

>> No.5623231

>>5620565
>>5620585
Easy there, tough guy.

>> No.5623232

>>5622972
>Final Fantasy sold so poorly we didn't get half the series in the west because it never sold particularly well.

We most likely did not get II and III due to rom space and carts with that much memory and battery being expensive to make in the early '90s. We would have got V as Final Fantasy Xtreme (eeee) if they have had time to iron the bugs.

>> No.5623450

>>5623232
Or maybe the games were just never very good. The Nintendo boss said only recluse losers play jarpigs.

>> No.5623496

>>5623450
[citation needed]

>> No.5623591

>>5623496
That's a well known quote though;
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hiroshi_Yamauchi

>[People who play RPGs are] "depressed gamers who like to sit alone in their dark rooms and play slow games."

>> No.5623616

>>5623591
There you have it, basedboys, the very man you idolize rubbing some harsh truths right in your face.

>> No.5623679
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5623679

>>5616947
Honest question.
What is WoH?

>> No.5623921

>>5623591
And he is right.

>> No.5623936

>>5623591
He was butthurt that most 3rd party studios who made RPGs jumped ship for discs in 5th gen. It's more like the reaction of a spurned lover than anything

>> No.5623989

>>5622024
>look at sales numbers
>seven jrpgs in the top 25 in worldwide sales for the SNES
>beaten almost exclusively by Mario, Zelda, DKC, and Street Fighter
I'd say they did pretty well, considering Nintendo's bread and butter.

>> No.5623990

>>5623936
>m-maybe i can rationalize it!

>> No.5624021

>>5623990
72-year-old man quoted in '99 at the height of the JRPG, the N64 totalling under a third of PSX sales and catering to a younger audience. The guy was a little out of touch on what other devs wanted. Nintendo had great established IPs that carried them through, but it's no secret that there were some bitter feelings over losing a lot of the 3rd-party publishers, some of the big defectors going on to have massive sales figures for JRPGs the same year as this quote.

>> No.5624046

>>5619794
I don't think you're an underage communist faggot. You're only mentally underage, sexually insecure, and don't even understand what a "communist" is. I guess I nailed it on the other parts because you ignored them. You might as well get that off your chest while your /r9k/ing.

>> No.5624048

>>5623679
Wings of Honnêamise

>> No.5624102

>>5624046
You figured all that from 2 short posts on an weebbait thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>> No.5624103

>>5623989
Goes to show what a piece of shit the SNES was. In fact the Sega CD had better actual rpgs than it.
Fucking basedboys

>> No.5624107

>>5622103
Cringe.

>> No.5624118

>>5614753
Yup, and still no sequel, only some vague fan service alluding to one as easter eggs in other games.
Really liked that game though, Treeid to make some extra levels for it back in the day but didn't get that far, only ever completed two, and then the hard drive crashed on me.

>> No.5624123

>>5619651
Still better than what the Wachowski's made.

>> No.5624130
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5624130

>>5624123
The movie had much better pacing than the cartoon. Have you guys watched 70s anime? Nothing fucking happens for 15 minutes then they blow all their animation load in a few action scenes and every episode follows the exact same formula.
It's hard to stay invested when you already know what's going to happen next.

>> No.5624146

>>5624123
I have yet to see Speed Racer, but feel like the only person on earth who thought Jupiter Ascending was great. matrix 2 and 3 suck donkey balls though

>> No.5624184

>>5624130
I've watched lots of 70's anime. I grew up watching a good amount of it on TV. Battle of the Planets (Gatchaman) and Starblazers (Space Battleship Yamato) were my jam. Tranzor Z (Mazinger Z) was way more formulaic than Speed Racer. Not every episode of Speed Racer had the same formula. Tranzor Z literally did.
It was a kids show, how deep did you want it to get? BTW, Mach Go Go Go was made in the 60's, not the 70's. I can forgive it because I loved it as a kid.

>> No.5624192

>>5624146
I enjoyed Jupiter Ascending as well.
I also liked John Carter, but I was a fan of the Edgar Rice Burroughs books way before that one came out.

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5624217

>>5624184
I'm not bashing Tatsunoko at all, I just prefer longer stories that develop a bit each episode rather than follow the exact same formula of monster of the week that is easily defeated by a giant laser of friendship or whatever.

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5624221

>>5624184
I'm not bashing Tatsunoko at all, I just prefer longer stories that develop a bit each episode rather than every episode following the exact same formula of monster of the week that is easily defeated by a giant laser of friendship or whatever.

>> No.5624272

>>5624221
Doronjo is life, Doronjo is wife

>> No.5624373

>>5624192
I didn't think John Carter was as terrible as the general consensus, but Jupiter Ascending really caught me off guardas being kind of great if I ignored the clumsy acting. I lovedcthe first Matrix and then felt horribly let down I expected JA to be garbage. I really should see Speed Racer...

>> No.5624396

>>5621718
It was worse than that, he said the west didn't care about RPGs until ffvii
>>5622972
JRPG wouldn't exist in the first place if japs weren't obsessed with wizardry and ultima in the 80s. The entire genre was born from the west. You'd have to be blindingly retarded to think final fantasy was some immaculate conception as America's introduction to rpgs

>> No.5624408

>>5624396
>It was worse than that, he said the west didn't care about RPGs until ffvii
That's correct though. Did you get your "facts" from an Youtube celeb?

>> No.5624423

>>5624396
>It was worse than that, he said the west didn't care about RPGs until ffvii

I haven't been following this discussion closely, but I would actually say that's pretty accurate.

>> No.5624454

>>5619174
He means popular as in sheer volume i.e pop culture iconic. A recent example would be Elder Scrolls, they were always very popular but Skyrim pushed the series into the cultural limelight, much like DBZ and Pokemon did for Anime in the West.

>> No.5624620

>>5624102
>i know nothing that wasn't in those 2 short posts

>> No.5624638

>>5624620
People are awful mind readers

>> No.5624647

>>5624373
Speed Racer (the film) wasn't that bad, the Wachowski's took a lot of liberties with the source material. Some moments were true to the original show, but a lot of it was way off. The VFX will give you seizures. Casting was pretty good. It's over the top campy. I think it was mostly to try to pay homage to the original western dub of the show, but it just comes off as wierd. I own a copy, rarely watch it; I watch the original series box set more often, But it's at least worth a viewing, especially if you liked the original series.

>> No.5624786

>>5618574
Fuck, that's funny.

>>5618582
>dissing Ys 1 and 2
Kevin sounds like a fag.

>>5618009
That Golgo clip was literally state of the art at the time. Probably was kinda ugly even then, but it was actually high-end.

also
>pedophile cartoons
Ah yes, Golgo 13, now that was for kid-fuckers.
Come on now, you can do better than that.

>>5624373
Speed Racer is fun. It's really, really out there, and a lot of people fucking hate it for that (and I can't even blame them), but it's got plenty to love. I really liked it.

>> No.5624820

>>5624786
That helicopter clip really hurt you weebs didn't it?
How does it feel knowing you wouldn't be welcome in the very country you idolize.

>> No.5624829

>>5624647
Speed Racer was a conceptual trainwreck. It was a movie without an audience. It's a kid's movie but no 2000s kid recognized or liked the character. It's intended for nostalgic boomers but most boomers who watched the old cartoon back then care or even remembered it when the movie came out.
The wachoski sisters made a whole movie only for themselves.

>> No.5624849

>>5624638
>kids are awful readingcomprehensioners

>> No.5624932

>>5624849
It's not the first time I've seen channers doing this, they look at one of your posts and immediately go, you must be a commie zionist bisexual feminist tranny jew who is plotting to destabilize western society with communism. And you're supposed to have figured all of this out by a few words in written text.
Just let it go, you'll never guess what my age or current situation is.

>> No.5625195

>>5624932
You don't even need a degree in psychology to understand what kind of cringelord is behind posts like yours. Anyone who's spent even a few years reading the repetitive drivel your kind shits onto the board knows what you are. You're a pathetic stereotype. The only thing someone with only the most basic understating of (sub)human nature can't glean from a couple of your shitposts is exactly which cartoons you like and dislike. But you've shitposted more than a couple times so anyone who has that information, and how to use it, knows a lot more about you. Even more than you know about yourself.

>> No.5625279

>>5624408
>>5624423
You're both clinically retarded zoomers that have no frame of reference for times before you were born and can only repeat
what you've heard from god knows where. Here's your last (you)

>> No.5625438

>>5625279
I'm in my 40s and remember well when no one gave any fucks about RPGs.

>> No.5625474

I think you're all arguing pointlessly because you're talking about different things.
Before FFVII console rpg's weren't too big in the west.
But since always there has been a cRPG market for adult nerds in the west.
You still could say there wasn't anything massive like Dragon Quest in Japan.

>> No.5625479
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5625479

>>5614203
Time Gal is the first "anime" game i remember seeing. Shes cute and even had her own anime store in weeb land.

>> No.5625529

>>5625438
>i'm in my 40s in dog years and have the memory of a goldfish
FTFYK

>> No.5625532

>>5625529
I remember it all very well. RPGs were very niche before FFVII.

>> No.5626146

>>5614203
What is she playing?

>> No.5626275

>>5626146
Looks like gals panic

>> No.5626283

>>5625195
When you judge people based on only a few lines of text it tells more about you than the other person. You sound humorously arrogant and act like everyone else is below you.

>> No.5626815

>>5618170
This is literally a boomer!

>> No.5626872

>>5619774
>So I nailed it on the age,

Not him, just someone following the reply chain back to see what you idiots are griping about and you're not even right lol.

>> No.5626876

>>5614203
Final Fantasy 7 8 9

>> No.5627070

>>5626283
>act

>>5626872
>just someone following the reply chain back
>cound't follow it

>> No.5627123

>>5623591
He's not wrong.

T. JRPG lover who basically fits that quote to a t

>> No.5627183

>>5627070
Say clairvoyant anon, what color between 0 and 10 am I thinking right now?

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5627356

>>5625479
>that QTE title in the corner

>> No.5627394

>>5627183
Potato. Nailed it again.

>> No.5627476

>>5627070
>couldn't follow

>5618710
>Most likely you're at most 30 something years "old"

>5618718
>I"m past 30

>5619774
>So I nailed it on the age

Lol you sure nailed it alright. Sorry I didn't bother going back further, you're both a pair of idiots.

>> No.5627957

>>5627476
30 something means past 30 kiddo. A pair of idiots id >9k times smarter than you.

>> No.5629812

>>5614203
She's going to damage her eyesight if she keeps sitting that close to the TV

>> No.5630012

>>5620472
I'm 33 and I think it looks pretty cool.

>> No.5630130

>>5627957
>you're at most 30
>I'm past 30
>so I nailed it on the age

Come on man.

>> No.5630623

>>5630130
>i can't reading comprehension
>i can't quote
Come on kiddo

>> No.5630753

>>5630623
Okay, screenshot where I was wrong lol.

>> No.5630759

>>5616297
pretty cool game

>> No.5631057

>>5620472
I don’t have to imagine :^)

>> No.5631083

>>5622786
Anime has always been manchildren hugging waifu pillows. The only reason why you remember anime being "cool, deep, violent, dangerous" is that only the most shocking stuff was worth localizing to western audiences because it was the 90's and well, the 90's also gave us Vampire the Masquerade and other cringe inducing grimdark nonsense. Your memories of anime come not from the source, but western Gen X ideas about what was cool.

>> No.5631091

>>5630753
Literally your last post dingus. This is some really low quality shitposting.