/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[5-22] SIGIL is shipping
https://twitter.com/romero/status/1131200733192380417

[5-21] Cyrgoth's Manor -a 7 Level Hub FOR Hexen has been released
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/106379-hexen-cyrgoths-manor-7-level-hub/

[5-19] Unbeliever, heretic megawad, release candidate 1
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105690-unbeliever-a-heretic-megawad-release-candidate/

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem
https://m210.duke4.net/

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16
http://manbitesshark.com/

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64701

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61714

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8x89BBjI8

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-may-2019/?page=47

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61717
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61718

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64582

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61715

[5-1] Release of GZDoom 3.8.0 Vintage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64521

[5-1] Memoirs of Magic now fully released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=50250&start=465#p1101659

[4-29] Hell-Forged updated to 0.9, Episode 1 fully playable
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[4-27] Introducing Lt. Typhon, a new mod from the maker of Baradoom and Nun with a Gun
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64378

[4-23] Jimmy releases Faithless, a Hexen-style hub mapset for Heretic
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64411
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Isn't SIGIL supposed to be released publically for free? Since it technically is just a mod. Weren't they only selling the merchandise and physicaly and not the actual game software?

First for this now gone image.

>>5600851
Oops
>>5600850
From what i heard, the free wad officially comes one week after the physical stuff is shipped.

>>5600850
Romero said he'll release it a week after people get their boxes of junk.

Is it out yet?

>>5600859
>>5600862
Cool. Actually really glad to hear that.

I'm just going to drop some of the stuff I've done and nobody asked for

BURL TUMD but with no archie hitscan and no caco blinding effect:
https://mega.nz/#!f2BigawQ!e4x8_40VAkS4zTsAQMv5yoGaFImdbnpzDQoyxLSXC7k

Gunslinger 2.0 Weapons Only:
https://mega.nz/#!PiJ30Y4B!X8HF30asSnJL07vSoCcd5LVw6tC26FIYAn_6egoOCKo

Also I edited a Doom video for a modestly sized youtube channel named BlackPantsLegion, if anyone wants to hear a grown man having his first taste of Pillowblaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deUwu4xDQYg
Tex is a cool guy, if you need that kind of voice in your project I'm sure he would be happy to help you if you approach him, he already did some work for the 40k Apocalypse mod.

>>5600845
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64768

>>5600850
>>5600859
>>5600862
It'll get leaked almost instantly though, the week delay seems kinda stupid.

Will provide some great entertainment as the ZDoom forum has another moral panic though.

>>5600851
why olivia

>>5600940
Hopefully.

>>5600953
Australian Doom modders are weird.

>>5600972
If i recall, it was DrPySpy that made the image, because otherwise, i don't think dabbing or the ok sign really fit the humor in most Kinsie mods.
DPS is also credited for how the codex works.

>>5600972
Doom modders are weird.

>>5600979
Modders are weird.

>>5600940
I actually don't have any problem whatsoever waiting until next week.

Is there any place to get previous versions of BuildGDX? I want to compare performance between versions.

man the waste tunnels is really shitty for an early map

How good a read is Masters of Doom?

>>5601002
Or alternatively is there a place to download BloodGDX? All I can find is BuildGDX.

>>5601027
Its a pretty nice read, some parts are not stellar but overall I'd say its worth it

>>5601027
Pretty good.

>>5601031
Fair enough. I think I'll pick it up. Thanks.

>>5600979
>>5600980
Fair enough.

How do you run mods in Blood? In DOSBox I mean. Not with any source ports or the remaster. I want to be able to compare accuracy in the mods vs. how they run in other versions.

I need some Wads with music that will pump me up
the first map in Jenesis never fails to fill me with energy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9MnDIjuwF8

>>5601027
Pretty good. Especially the part where Carmack got diagnosed as a “brain on legs” with “no empathy to other human beings” after trying to steal a computer.

>>5600991
what a fucking cuck

>>5601068

Since I only know this music from the OP video, I can picture the "*TING*NOW LISTEN UP YOU LITTLE SH" when the pedals come. Kinda amusing really.

https://www.chexmix.com/chexquest/

>>5601180
They're distributing the fan episodes too?

>>5601185
it's zdoom with chex3.wad

>>5601180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPByIugoiM0

>>5601190
2 and 3 were fanmade, right?

I got the email that limited run games have started shipping their shit. Once I get my box of crap, I assure you I’ll dump the WAD here and only here.

>>5600842
the nipples on the armor are degenerate.

>>5601298
bless your soul anon
as soon as that drops Im going to go PRBoom
and then I will play it with Smooth Doom

>>5601298
should make an account on doomworld and ZDF and upload it, just to see if people flip their lid

>>5601079
Makes all the sense in the world why Carmack is Facebook's bitch now, both him and that dude are aliens.

>>5600845
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/05/23/chex-quests-unbranded-episode-3-becomes-official-today/

>>5601352
>rockpapershitgun
Thanks, now I have aids.

>>5599516
>>5599624
I really miss listening to Term and the boys talking about Doom stuff.

>>5599516
I'd love to see a DUMP 4, but I know they must have been a pain in the ass to organize.

>>5601412
I swear to god Im going to chain those fuckos in a basement until they pop up a new intermission

>>5601465

Good luck getting us all in a consistent time slot. That was the big problem.
Though I guess if we're all locked in a basement, that solves that.

>>5601483
>Though I guess if we're all locked in a basement, that solves that.

now we are on the same page

>>5601307
that's nu-Doomguy's big red button™

>>5600842
I want to fuck that bunny

>>5601425
DUMP 3 definitely took longer than expected, there was the weapons pack too and I think Term needed somebody to do the hub map. But holy fuck was that a cool hub.

>>5600863
Nah

>>5601521
And that's why you're going to prison

>>5601336
>tfw autistic enough to be a pariah and not enough to be someone

>>5601502
what happens when you press it?

>>5601735
It dooms

>>5601735
he dooms

What is the site with all those new indie retro shooters listed?

>>5601847
They all retweet each other, so just find a single twitter account and you'll find all of them.

>>5600842
I found some weird shit in Deus Ex.

ACTUAL FUCKING SPOILER: In the 747 I killed Anna Navarre AFTER she tried to kill the NSF leader, but BEFORE she was able to get off a shot. So the dude lived. Then he ran into the bathroom, but when I tried to talk to him to continue the conversation (where he's about to tell you "the big secret") he wouldn't respond AT ALL (it's pretty clear that the game didn't intend for that to be possible, so it didn't give him any dialogue for that situation). The REALLY crazy part though, was when I was standing there trying to figure out what the fuck to do, all of a sudden Anna Navarre ran into the room and started her dialogue. But it wasn't the normal Anna Navarre, it was a "ghost" version that was see-through. When I shot her (once with the pistol) she EXPLODED (it destroyed both of my legs, dropping both to 0 health). After that THEN I was able to talk to the NSF leader (I keep forgetting his name), but now he began the dialogue from where he would have if you killed Anna Navarre immediately once she appeared in the room, as if the whole sequence with us all arguing had never happened (even though it had obviously).

Has anyone ever seen this happen before?

Also, have this wallpaper that I just made.

>>5601850
no it was a website someone made, they posted a link a week ago and I forgot to bookmark it

>>5601006
;)

>>5600940
I don't see why it matters, people paid because they wanted to pay, and they wanted the knicknack.

You're not gonna see people line up to pirate the pewter head.

>>5601856
I think she was alive but just used her stealth mod and ran away. Then you killed her for real, allowing the conversation to be triggered

>>5601991
explosions tho

>>5601486
Can I get locked in the basement too? I don't want to go outside anymore, I just want to make sprites and graphics.

Still haven't played Blade of Agony/Wolfendoom. What am I in for /vr/?

>>5602007
gorgeous babe
needs some muscles tho

>>5602018
Attempt at Return to Castle Wolfenstein on a wrong engine and not without its own problems.

>>5601991
No. Read the post again. She gibbed. And then after that it triggered dialogue that shouldn't have even happened given what had already happened.

>>5602069
he's talking about before that, dude

>>5602090
what the fuck

>>5602090
Nice. I wanna break it.

>>5602090
that is actually pretty cool

Were you a Chex kid, anon? Tell me a story.

>>5602090
Proven fake. The dev was having a chuckle. You're still gonna need to do some cleanup.

>>5602090
what software
can it work with layers
I've been looking for a program to sprite in, and photoshop is all kind of fucky if you want things to be pixel-perfect

>>5602158
Aseprite, yes it can work with layers, and onion skinning, I use it for almost everything now

what's the best way to play through DOOM these days and then also use for SIGIL?

>>5602162
thats a lotta dither

Oh wow! International shipping takes time? Sorry, guys. I won't be able to release SIGIL until every order has arrived. It's only fair. pleasecheckoutmymerchstore

>>5602186
I finally found a shading techique I'm comfortable with, I'm a sucker for it.

>>5601856
She didn't die the first time you "killed her". She can make herself partially invisible. This is in fact an upgrade you can get too.
The dialogue part is definitely a glitch though.

>>5602185
Zdoom

Can't wait to play Sigil. I've waited too long for it.

>>5602162
>>5602192
Much better than using a blur tool on everything.

>>5602162
https://medium.com/pixel-grimoire/how-to-start-making-pixel-art-2-bcd705cb04d7

2 things to think about with shading and dithering. Also you gave it a fuzzy texture with all the dithering. The original designs and shapes are good though, that's the hardest part for me as a non-artist who only knows the technical pixel pushing.

>>5602279
>you gave it a fuzzy texture
Yeah, I've noticed that but I think I'm in so far deep I'm not sure if I can pull it back

>>5602162
Looks pretty rad on black.

>>5602293
It does, this is actually gonna be the background what I'm going with when I'm done, it's a refinement of the smooth gradient thing I made with the current public build

>>5602293
>>5602297
Fuck.

>>5602162
I mean if you are going to be doing something this high res with a single color why not go for the HD index painting method
http://danfessler.com/blog/hd-index-painting-in-photoshop

>>5602301
YOU SHOULD'VE ATTACKED THE DARKNESS MOTHERFUCKER

>>5602313
I don't have photoshop, and I'm not sure if I can pull this off with Aseprite, and just how of a big of a resolution is considered HD? I'm working with 600x250 here.

>>5602313
Man, I've wanted to mess around with that ever since the guide showed up. Just keep forgetting about it. Something for the weekend.

>>5602191
Release it, you fucking sleazebag.

Are there any map sets that go thematically well with GMOTA? I like the mod, but I find playing in tech bases jarring.I don't want to play through Scythe 2 again.
>>5601864
retropew.com

>>5602353
the brotherhood of ruin and its sequel the lost temple

>>5602198
SHE FUCKING GIBBED, YOU FUCKING RETARD. SHE WAS FUCKING DEAD.

>>5602093
She gibbed the FIRST time.

>>5601856
Well, try to recreate it. Someone's gonna be interested. Webm or whatever.

>>5602335
Mmmmmmno.

>>5602374
that what she said

The Castle has said he will not only update Redemption of the Slain compatibility, but adds new parts to the map as well. I'm hyped.

Just finished playing the first three episodes of Douk 3D for the first time. It was good fun.

A few questions though
>Why is throwing pipe bombs pretty fucky sometimes
>How many use cases do tripwire bombs even have and is the red laser being glitchy an eDuke32 thing
>Are Build engine games in general much more focused around liberal explosive use and a fragile protagonist

brainlet time: where the hell do you start with modding when you dont know how to code?

should I start with the DECORATE tutorials? with ACS? SLADE? friggin Zscript?
opening stuff and fucking around with it can only take one so far, its like taking apart a computer without knowing that a motherboard is

>>5602462
DECORATE is fun and fairly easy to pick up. Start with that.

>>5602462
Do the first weapon in Decorate with wildweasels "gunlabs" tutorial, then switch to ZScript ASAP. Don't listen to the people whining about it here. It's almost completely identical to decorate if you're doing simple things like basic guns and monsters, but allows you to do so much more. And allows more straight forward logic with less jumping through hoops. Example: In zscript, you can put variables on a gun, like for how many cartridges are currently in a magazine and set/check them directly. In decorate, you have to give and count dummy inventory items instead.

ACS is mostly useful for map scripts, like switches that do multiple actions. It's quite simple however.

>>5602481
whats a good tutorial for Zscript? the material in the wiki seems a bit...overwhelming

>>5602493
Start with this one: https://zdoom.org/wiki/Converting_DECORATE_code_to_ZScript

It's also a good idea to open up gzdoom.pk3 in slade, and find the folder with the Doom weapons and monster definitions.

Zscript can do everything from level scripting to weapons and menus, so there can't really be any one tutorial. Once you get the hang of guns and monsters, you'll be equipped to gradually learning more.

>>5602162
I might have a trick to show you later. Typing this so the odds of me remembering are better.

>>5602494
>level scripting
not him, but i always wondered about this
how do and what are the capabilities?

I wish I could buffer a powered melee attack mid-slash in GMOTA.
>>5602368
>Brotherhood of Ruin
Playing through it now (just finished map 2), thanks Anon.

Is GZDoom Buioder Bugfix or Doombuilder X better for making wads these days.

>>5601263
No. The second game is what you got if you sent in money or box tops or something. The numbers are misgnomers. Theyre basically episodes.

>>5602452
Top 10 Duke Nukem maps:

1. Dark Side
2. Death Row
3. Duke Burger
4. Hollywood Holocaust
5. Derelict
6. Toxic Dump
7. Freeway
8. LA Rumble
9. Lunar Reactor
10. Fusion Station

+1 Golden Carnage if that counts.

>>5602508
The principal way is to use Event Handlers. An event handler is a class that has a bunch of functions that don't do anything, but which trigger upon certain events like a map being loaded or an actor being spawn (any actor ever). What you do is inherit from the base event handler class, then override for example "WorldThingSpawned(WorldEvent e) { }", and inside that you get a pointer to that actor and can do anything with it.

For level scripting, you probably want to override NetworkProcess(ConsoleEvent e). It is a function that triggers on custom "network events", which can be triggered by console commands (and thus binds), as well as from ACS with https://zdoom.org/wiki/ScriptCall

So the interface from the level editor to zscript might be ACS because that's simply the easiest way, but the actual effects of the action can be defined in the much more powerful zscript.

>>5602452
The holoduke and laser bombs are only useful in multiplayer.

The hologram literally does not work against enemy CPU at all

>>5602508
If you mean level scripting in general/with ACS, you basically pick a linedef and set it to activate a scripted when walked over or activated with Use. Or shot.

ACS allows things like changing room color, spawning actors, moving floors and ceilings, moving polyobjects. ZScript allows you to do pretty much anything imaginable short of moving the vertices of the level around.

>set it to activate a script*

>I'll rip your head off and shit down your neck!
>Douk actually rips off the Overlord's head and shits down their neck

>>5602528
it does, just not very well

if you set it somewhere and then move out of line of sight of the enemies, they will go after the holoduke instead of following you

I'll rip off my nips and something something Halo

>>5601521

>>5602515
> doombuider x
never heard

>>5602185
prboom+ and crispy doom for vanilla with some extra stuff
chocodoom for pure vanilla
gzdoom for mods
zandronum for mods and mp

>>5602609
and Marshmallow is Crispy with extra extra stuff.

Also ZDoom for some mods because GZDoom is fucky with an increasing amount of stuff.

>>5602550
from the original game?
is there a webm that shows it?

Hideous VRstructor

>>5602649
Hideous Instructor. A tutorial map

gib me some noob friendly slaughter maps RIGHT NOW!

>>5602669
>Hideous Instructor
you mean that one teacher in middle school?

>>5602649
> virtul reality
> hideous destructor
> virtuous restructor

>>5602452
>Why is throwing pipe bombs pretty fucky sometimes
Because the physics and rendering of Build always was a little bit fucky around the edges. Carmack famously regarded it as "being held together with chewed gum", and didn't understand why anyone would like it.
He didn't really look much at the overall gameplay or the charm.

>How many use cases do tripwire bombs even have and is the red laser being glitchy an eDuke32 thing
Tripbombs were always kinda janky, and it's hard to make enemies bump into them. Personally I use them to blow up walls and stuff, to save pipebombs and rockets for fighting.

>Are Build engine games in general much more focused around liberal explosive use and a fragile protagonist
Kinda, yeah.

lel, that "virtue signal like Romero" trans allies mapping project has been dead for over a month.

>>5602674
deus vult ii, but play it with Trailblazer. So much fun, don't even nerf yourself with the settings just go in an go HAM

>>5602550
I've never gotten that to work.

>>5602686
This shit came out 11 years ago wtf

>>5602695
because it's been "officialy" listed with the others, mainstream gaming media is all over it.

>>5602687
>Build utterly blows the fuck out of his ugly engines that can't even replicate realistic locations
>"T-t-that engines shit!"

The Virgin Carmack Vs the Chad Ken Silverman

>>5602702
>"officialy" listed with the others

?

>>5602687
Bit ironic with the corners id cut on later engines to make games playable and have them last as long as the previous game's levels, especially Quake.

>>5602707
Chex Quest 3 got stuck on the official Chex Quest site or some shit.

The Chex Quest 3 by the original designer working alone, that is, not the other one.

>>5602715
>The Chex Quest 3 by the original designer working alone, that is, not the other one.

??

>>5602596
X is the successor to 2. Apparently it has Lua support and everything. I never see anyone talk about it even though it won a cacoaward.

>>5602704
Carmack's engines were far more stable though, and didn't rely on crude hacks to achieve all those kinds of things.

Like in Build, doors are liable to just randomly kill you if you're not careful around them, while in Doom or Quake this is never a problem you will have.

>>5602735
It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

>>5602720
https://chexquest.fandom.com/wiki/Chex_Quest_3
https://chexquest.fandom.com/wiki/Chex_Quest_3_(unofficial)

One of these is not like the other.

where da wad at?

>>5602687
The most notable case of the pipe bombs being weird was when I was trying to throw one into a dumpster that a pigcop was hiding in at the later part of Episode 3, and also trying to throw one from the ventilation. Both times I never got to throw one reliably into the desired spot, there'd be some weird bouncing or the bomb would go the other way. I assume this could've also been related to how Build manages room-over-room?

>>5602735
I'm not sure if it counts as hack-ish but I do recall Carmack's comment 'what the fuck?' regarding the magic number needed for the fast inverse square root thing used in Quake III.

>>5602770
whopped on the counter

>>5602301
I propose adjusting the 2 lowest purples, right now they're so similar they're almost redundant.

Also it looks way better on black than a plain gray gradient given they're emerging from black and in some places blend to black where the background has become gray, like the back of the heads of the two rightward knights. It also provided better contrast, right now the gray and some shades of purple are very similar in luminosity, and the dither pattern is distractingly detailed for a background.

>>5602790
loadsa mapping

>>5602301
Also please consider axing the dithering for simple connected shapes. It's much easier to read than what amounts to noise.

>>5602839
Also the shinier a material gets the tighter the dither should be. So full bright and full dark should be closer together with shininess.
I wonder if there's a little example image of this somewhere.

>>5602090
Even if it still requieres clean up, it's super helpful and a better solution than messing around.

>>5602494

Ok I did the gunlabs tutorial with no mayor issues and then opened stuff in SLADE to compare gow GZDoom and Zdoom handle the vanilla shotgun compared to the tutorial gun

Im noticing the changes in formatting, also apparently you can chain two animations in succession in one line, like how "SHTG" went to "BC" "D" "CB" and then back to "A" to do the pump action

what baffles me a bit are those lines at the end for the GZDoom shotgun, should I worry about that when I try to recreate the tutorial autoshotgun in Zscript?
I already tried once actually and it didnt work at all, I must have fucked up the formatting

my brain hurts

>>5602896
don't worry about recreating a_fireshotgun
just stick to a_firebullets for now
if it does exactly what you need it to do, take the simplest solution

>>5602896
Okay, just so you know: the ZScript shotgun is the "vanilla" one. They're internally defined in zscript these days. It's an adaption of the original Doom source in zscript, just as the Decorate one is an adaption in Decorate.

>Im noticing the changes in formatting, also apparently you can chain two animations in succession in one line, like how "SHTG" went to "BC" "D" "CB" and then back to "A" to do the pump action
Yeah, this is not something you really *have* to do. It just makes it more neat and tidy when there's a lot of frames where the only thing happening is the sprite changing. It's also used for (particularly in decorate, in zscript there's other options) calling the same function multiple times in the same tick like this:
>SPRT AAAAAA 0 A_DoSomething()

>what baffles me a bit are those lines at the end for the GZDoom shotgun, should I worry about that when I try to recreate the tutorial autoshotgun in Zscript?
If you mean where Action Void A_FireShotgun is defined then no there's no need. What it does is define the function that the vanilla shotgun calls when you fire, and also make it available to every new actor in a mod. You can call this function without having to have the faintest clue how it actually works internally. It is however excellent for a more experienced coder to be able to look it up.

Also, the reason there's no definition for A_FireShotgun in the decorate version of the weapon is that back in those days, the function was defined within the source code rather than in a text file within GZDoom.pk3. It has since been "scriptified" as they like to call it. "scriptification" of things previously compiled into the .exe itself is generally seen as desirable whenever possible because it gives you more A) control and b) example code to copy, paste and alter or learn from.

https://github.com/TheKins/MetaDoom/commit/59c45565a8bfa55088b5e62968a4a80d654336da
Guess this update is coming sooner than expected.

>>5602790
B E R Z E R K

What does that spell? Bezerk, probly

Wanna bet that Sigil gets leaked on the very day it will be shipped to the first costumers?

>>5600910
Hey man, been playing through Compendium with your Gunslinger edit. Really, really, really fucking like it. Exceptional work. It let me do this and that was awesome.
https://streamable.com/pk1pn

>>5602301
I will deadass rock this as a wallpaper when it's done. This is awesome.

>>5603037
well shit man, I didn't think it would work with the chex maps

keep in mind all the work was made by the original author and all I did was butcher it a little bit, but I'm glad you are enjoying it nonetheless

>>5603059
It doesn't, but it was still fun. Now, it should work with the old chex1.wad, since that's just doom replacement shit and no decorate or whatever, but everything past that is borked. I could probably make a patch myself. Either way, this is pretty tits dude. I especially like the double revolver start, I think it makes the game miles more fun.

>>5600842
Duke forces is a great Build engine Mod. Only a matter of time before either Duke3D, Blood, or Redneck Rampage get one based on the Alien Franchise. May it include trilobites, and the Engineer species.

>>5603063
There are general patches somewheres in the old news archives to run most Doom mods with Chex/Strife/the Raven games.

Universal something.

Can't wait to get into this new game, everyone's talking about it!

>>5602928
>>5602932
>>5602940
thanks anons

I tried copying the shotgun format and then replacing the values with the tutorial weapon to see if it would stick, evidently copy pasting is not the way to go here.

my guess is that I should format the begging differently

class AutoShotgun : DoomWeapon
{
Default
{
Weapon.SelectionOrder 1300;
Weapon.AmmoUse 1;
Weapon.AmmoGive 16;
Weapon.AmmoType "Shell";
Weapon.SlotNumber 3;
Inventory.PickupMessage "$GOTSAutoShotgun";
Obituary "$OB_MPAutoShotgun";
Tag "$TAG_AutoShotgun";
AttackSound "weapons/shotgf";
}
States
{
Ready:
SHTG A 1 A_WeaponReady;
Loop;
Deselect:
SHTG A 1 A_Lower;
Loop;
Select:
SHTG A 1 A_Raise;
Loop;
Fire:
SHTG A 0 A_GunFlash;
SHTG A 1 A_FireBullets(5.5, 3, 8, 4, "BulletPuff", 1);
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,40);
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,48);
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,44);
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,40);
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,37);;
SHTG A 1 Offset(0,35);
SHTG A 3;
Goto Ready;
Flash:
SHTF A 2 Bright A_Light1;
SHTF B 2 Bright A_Light2;
TNT1 A 1 A_Light0;
Goto LightDone;
Spawn:
SHOT A -1;
Stop;
}
}

WHY IS JUNG hae-lin and is she a doom character or what because i drew her and she didn't get uploaded to the booru (not ours) and was wondering if she counts as a doom mod character or OC something is she related to swan fox

>>5601027
A pretty interesting story about the guys behind Doom.

I'd say it's almost required for the community.

>>5601412
>>5601465
>tfw no Intermission

>>5602374
>>5602375
then actually fucking say that she gibbed before cloaking (which makes me not believe this at all, because there's no mechanism for spawning a new navarre or reviving her in the scropts)
the way you wrote it, it sounds like you think you killed her, but only did enough damage to trigger the cloak and have her run away

>>5600842
I'd love to see the source codes for Dark Forces 1 and 2 be fully released once found. Oh, the possibilities with mods for the Jedi Engine!
>custom maps that include more Expanded Universe stuff like Mara Jade, Kreia, Revan, Thrawn, and the extra-galactic Abominor and Yuuzhan Vong.

>>5603139
actually, come to think of it, it's possible she got switched to the cloaked state mid death sequence
that's probably it

>>5602783
True. I think maybe Carmack was maybe a little bit extra prideful at the time, and thought his engine superior for how clean and stable it is in comparison (in spite of Duke3D being a wonderful game with a lot of charm that makes up for the crudity of the engine)

>>5603118
>Can't wait to get into this new game, everyone's talking about it!

>>5603145
>Can't wait to get into this new game, everyone's talking about it!
jfc forgot the .jpg

>>5603141
>>custom maps that include more Expanded Universe stuff like Mara Jade, Kreia, Revan, Thrawn, and the extra-galactic Abominor and Yuuzhan Vong.

Expanded universe? Don't you mean "non-canon"?

>>5602790
SING A SONG OF SIX WITH A POCKET FULL OF CELLS

>>5602994

>>5602790
>>5602838
>>5603151
Has anybody ever tried to do Killing Floor in Doom?

Shit would be weird as fuck, demaking a UE2 mod that went commercial.

>>5603128
> decorate.txt
decorate is for decorate
you need to put it in a file named zscript

>>5603128
Yeah like anon said, put that in zscript.txt rather than in decorate.txt

>>5603160
well that was dumb on my part

>>5603164
Don't think like that, it's a very understandable mistake.

>>5602693
thanks fren, gonna try it

>>5601972
That's a very nice Angel of Death

>>5602007
Get locked in a basement with Term while doing sprites and he'd probably adore the fuck out of you forever.

>>5602007
>spritenoob
What've you been working on lately senpai?

Any Doom mods that add RPG mechanics I ain't tried yet? I've played Doom RPG, Wrath of Chronos, Guncaster
I think that list also goes from worst to best in terms of quality

>>5603149
Its only non-canon since late 2014 because Bob "corporate slaver" Iger thought it was okay to both promote Kathleen "femmie dunce" K. to be the next Lucasfilm CEO after George sold it in late 2012 and let her wipe out most of the pre-Disney lore. That and cancelling Detours.

What was intermission? I've always just played doom via Doomseeker as 'player'. I've spoken to Terminus before in game but I've never really got into the community beyond that

I know TAS is Tool Assisted Software, but what exactly does the thing do? Is it a software, a cheat code, what is it?

>>5603232
A podcast kind of thing with a bunch of developer dudes.
>>5603253
When you've got it working correctly, it plays a set of inputs perfectly, to the point where it can clear levels at speeds and in ways that just aren't possible by real people.

Doom 2016, Doom Eternal, Quake 1 and Q2 but enabled to play on VR interfaces like Vorp and Altergaze.

>>5603253
> tool assisted speedrun
afaik meticulous save state abuse and precise input manipulation

>>5603139
>>5603142
It was clearly a glitch. Of course "there's no mechanism for" it. It obviously wasn't supposed to happen.

>>5602387
I'll try to get a screenshot and post it in either this thread or the next thread.

>>5603156
It exists, I forget the name but it's like Zombie Invasion or some shit. It's a Zandronum mod. It's not very fun, however I get bored by KF so it may not be for me.

how in the
FUCK
do i do map design
i can use the tools to do all sorts of crazy shit
but GODDAMMIT
i cant get anything down that even remotely resembles anything playable

>>5603293
zombie torrent

>>5602649
Wish someone would make a mobile Doom VR like the one for QuakeVR

>>5603131
>WHY IS JUNG hae-lin
because yes
>and is she a doom character or what
yes, protagonist of demonsteele mod
>because i drew her and she didn't get uploaded to the booru (not ours)
nobody fucking uploads things to the booru for you, my dude
>and was wondering if she counts as a doom mod character or OC something
yes
>is she related to swan fox
yes, swan fox was a direct inspiration

>>5603187

I would.
Tenderly.

>>5603303
now we wait for Terminus man to make KANGOKU SENKAN doom starring Lieri Bishop with her cohort Naomi Evans beating up crew members with their gun turtles Leave wad ludo to him

>>5603303
>nobody fucking uploads things to the booru for you
i wasn't talking about our booru i was talking about another one man of terminus

>>5602536
As a 12 year old, that was both one of the funniest and most audacious things I had ever seen, and some of the sillyest and machoest post victory humiliation yet put in fiction at the time.

Faced with this giant monstrosity, he declares "I'll rip off your head and shit down your neck!", for a first timer they might assume it's just Duke's typical bravado and attitude, but then he does literally that exact thing. In fact maybe you forgot he even said that by the time you've defeated the Overlord, or maybe the line kept echoing in your mind during the fight, either makes it all the better.
It's just yet another example of how throughout the entire game, Duke so perfectly and consistently manages to straddle the line between the dark, grim, and serious tone of most of the levels, by being such a shining star of macho, bravado, and comedy.

15 years later, that scene still puts a big stupid grin on my face, and I'll still sit down and play through the game a couple times a year. I love ya', Duke, never change.

>>5603313
i'm not term but i'm not even aware of any other doom booru

>>5602185
If you want just normal vanilla, then use Chocolate Doom, it emulates the original .exe to perfection while running without problems on modern systems.

If you'd like basically the vanilla gameplay, buuut maybe a couple of small Quality Of Life options, Crispy Doom is your ticket. It lets you double the resolution, toggle a fix for monsters which are supposed to bleed other colors, and lifts some static limits, to mention a bunch of things.

>>5603286
yeah I'm 100% convinced you just thought her cloaking and running away was her dying
I've looked over the code - the cloak doesn't involve any state changes, so that couldn't have brought her back to life, and the mission scripts have nothing in place that could possibly bring her back to life either
and navarre *always* explodes on death. if she didn't explode the first time you thought she died, she didn't die. and by the way you worded your post, it's clear she didn't.

and as for the single pistol shot - anna cloaks at 100 health, and a pistol headshot does a minimum of 112 damage. so that's entirely in line with things going normally, too.
so nothing you've mentioned is actually out of the ordinary at all

It appears this happens because some item pick ups can access teleporters, which also happens to soul pick ups.
Also, the SMM can make the game lag a bit, particularly the crusher scene from map 6.

Some people got Sigil already.

>>5603229
Have you tried Cola 3?

>>5603374
post wad

>>5603136
>tfw no evolution of the wad

NOBODY PUTTS SQUARE IN THE CORNER

so the rumor that mark put real gore in BD was bullshit right?

>>5603297
Give up now. That's what I did.

>>5603484
fuck you i still want to do shit

>>5603487
Why bother?

>>5603479
he was working on a real gore add-on, as far as i know it wasn't integrated into bd itself, but it's been so long that i don't remember and it really doesn't matter

>>5603497
because fuck you i still want to do shit

>>5603487
>>5603501
I like you.
How you into map design is pretty straightforward, make a map, put a beginning and an end, and put down enemies and items. If your goal is "playable", that's actually an extremely easy goal to accomplish. If you want "good and fun", that's a more particular nuance which is harder to identify, but generally you want to play to Doom's strengths. Emphasize running, emphasize gunning, emphasize areas where you can run around back and forth while still pushing the player forward. Have a map area that loops in on itself multiple times so that the player can revisit familiar areas in new ways.

>>5603323
>>5602536
>Whistles the main theme while reading the paper

Where did he get the paper from

>>5603501
maybe you could take inspiration from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptHurafdCoQ
https://sgt-shivers.tumblr.com/post/173783748040/3000-follower-special-how-i-speedmap

>>5602815
>>5602839
You bring up some good points here, I'll apply some of these changes and see how well I can do that. Perhaps it's better I just go with a solid black background, mighta been overthinking that, and Kustam's helmet definitely looks better with those changes you've applied in that gif.
I still got a lot to learn, I dunno who you are, but thank you.

>>5603131
One of these this should be redone to properly reflect that Blaz is two inches shorter than Hae-Lin, seeing she's like 5'4 and Blaz is 5'2, the fucking manlet.

What's the best way to play doom wads on Win10? I know a few people made ports of the doom engine but I'm not sure what's good.

>>5603147
what is this

>>5603532
both gzdoom and zandro work fine

>>5603535
its one of those event thingies steam does, generally when there is a sale going on
except there is no sale, just a bunch of games free to play during the weekend

I have no idea why anyone would want badges and shit, except for the card drops

>>5603264
>>5603269
but what is it exactly? Like a cheat engine?

Duke3D, Blood, Redneck Rampage 1, RN Rampage 2, UT99, Shadow Warrior, Quake1, and Quake2 but with HD texture packs for both backgrounds and enemies.

>>5603550
no, it's quite literally what it says on the tin

you use tools to assist with a speedrun
the tools can really be anything, but what matters is that you're not doing it naturally in one take, you're using some form of external help to make it

>>5603550
TAS is usually macros and slowdown hacks from what I understand. Anything that let's you input faster or more timely than is normally humanly possible.

>>5603552
Duke3D, Blood, Redneck Rampage 1, RN Rampage 2, UT99, Shadow Warrior, Quake1, and Quake2 but in idtech3 and 4

>>5603143
There's a p good interview on the retro hour podcast with some fellow from Raven, who was talking about being the only studio to have access to idtech source code and being allowed to make changes that carmack axed for efficiency or time constraints. Per poly collision on splines was an example given iirc. That was for elite force I believe?

>>5603560
all of those
but with HD style mods

>>5603552
Redneck Rampage already had textures twice the resolution of those other games.

>>5603572
Redneck rampage gets a bad rap for some reason but it's a pretty damn fun game. It drags a little bit here and there, but overall it's pretty tight.

>>5603550
Different software to create savestates (it's resource hungry for non-emulated games), time slowdown to crawl like 1-2 frames per second so that frame-perfect tricks could be done easily, and in some cases frame-advance version of above that pauses game each frame, accepts an input, confirms it (so that multi key-press would not be fumbled), and only then advances to the next frame.

A TAS can take anywhere from a month to several months to create, and that is after you already know all the tricks and the route.

>>5603586
Bad level design full of very questionable decisions, very bad hitboxes and collision detection.

>>5603602
Of all the flaws in that game, the keys are the most baffling. How could they fuck up something so simple/obvious that badly?

>>5603602
>bad level design
Thats more apparent for the sequel.

anyone got a link to the mod testing mod?

Has anyone made a dungeon crawler tc yet? I kinda want to.

>>5602185
A good rule of thumb is does it accurately play demos from the original game. Prboom, prboom plus, chocolate doom, and crispy doom. I think prboom and crispy doom are probably the friendliest vanilla compatible ports. Chocolate is basically the game exactly as it was in dos, warts and all.

>>5603643
This? https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=57221
>>5603661
Wrath of Cronos with SLIGE or Oblige?

>>5603676
thanks anon!

>>5603286
Good. Glitch archiving can't lead to anything bad.

>>5603552
>>5603560
They’re perfect as they are.

>>5603397
>no evolution of the wad
>no intermission
>not aware of any other decent Doom discussion podcasts

>>5601502
oh, I see. Still haven't got around to playing Doom 2016. Didn't work on my toaster and I temporarily have a laptop now that can run it, but I feel it's kinda a sacrilege to play it on a laptop.

>>5603758
Watch Term and Kegan's Twitch streams, they have a lot of the same dudes, often talking about the same stuff.

Link fucking related, Term's on right now. https://www.twitch.tv/terminusest13

wish it was easier to play DOOM these days, setting up various fan made ports and having to learn to code just to play a 90s game is too much. wish ID would give this the nightdive treatment and make an updated version

>>5603772
>booster with a crunchy 8 bit mode
>singleplayer MM8BDM

what

>>5603782
>setting up various fan made ports and having to learn to code just to play a 90s game is too much
what are you talking about? Shit is really simple to use. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X_ppLzmCwg

>>5603786
Terms weird, and a weeb.

>>5603787
Pretty sure you fell for bait there.

>>5603807
bamboozled again

Are there any good guides to AMC TC?
I have attempted to play it a while back and got really confused about stuff after i finished the tutorial misssion so i dropped it to come back to it later.

So. Any FAQs that go over all the stuff both necessary and obscure?

>>5603602
The level design is a little obtuse, but not as bad as many people make it out to be.

>>5603793
He's been on a megaman kick recently. Booster looks like a fun mod though.

>>5603854
I played through it recently.
Yes, it is bad.

>>5603362
I posted like literally half a dozen times -- maybe MORE -- than she gibbed the first fucking time, then came back to life as a ghost and initiated her first dialogue sequence AGAIN. It was CLEARLY a glitch.

>>5603731
Still working on recreating it.

>>5600842
>people talking shit about Rise of the Triad in the last thread

>>5603894

>>5603897

>>5603902

>>5603904
these are all new webms I just made btw

>>5603894
i just want it to have a decent source port

ecwolf progresses at a very frugal pace

>>5603894
ROTT was awesome. Ludicrous Gibs! Also best error code in a game.

Anyone else fucked around with VR doom?

And before you say >AO, it definitely makes the depth easier to see, which helped me not get sick because of the motion.

>>5603894
I made ONE post about ROTT in the last thread. All I fucking said was that the mechanics were weird. I never even said they were fucking bad, these sperglords just lost their minds because I didn't blindly praise the game.

>>5603932
I’d probably throw up if I tried. I already did with DOOM (2016) VR.

>>5603947
The only thing that's REALLY bad is the chainsaw. It still pulls you in the direction of your target, which feels all sorts of fucked up. Also, the voxel weapons are legitimately great for aiming purposes

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART TERM

>>5603965
I'm pretty sure he's already got player sprites for Booster from someone else.

>>5603479
No its completely true and you can find download links to a preview version of it on archives of the brutal doom thread.

>>5603479
There’s real gore in the original Doom.

>>5603965
RoboBoobs

>>5604085

>>5604085
>>5604092
None of those match though.
Looks more like a reference image than a direct source.

>>5604085
Why does the guy on the right have such a stiff jacket?
>>5604092
The body on the left in both pic kind of have the same pose but it's far from the same guy.

>>5604121
I think it’s a mix of all three. By the way, that’s Mussolini in the middle, and his mistress on the right.

>>5604135
None of the wrinkles nor bodies match up at all. Like I said, It certainly looks to be used for reference, but not for sourcing.
That's not to say some other bodies weren't the source, but it definitely doesn't appear to be this pic.

>>5600842
quick rundown on Chex Quest?

>>5604186
You Chex
You zorch
Flemoids attack to flem all chex
you zorch them back to Flem

>>5604117
They must be ripped from some photo though, considering the visual style is completely different from Id's handdrawn art and just looks obviously photo-based.

>>5604186
go chex it out

>>5604186
You shoot things until they die

>>5604186
Ultimate Doom mod that was given away in cereal boxes. Still even has the the levels from episode 2, 3, and 4.

>>5604224
>completely different from Id's handdrawn art and just looks obviously photo-based.
Most of their stuff is photo-based, Adrian Carmack was mainly legendary at 'pixelating' it from what I understand.

>>5604117
The pants on the middle one and the upper torso and ripped shirt on the one on the right kinda match for this.

>>5603141
Never gonna happen
Outlaws, DF1/2/MotS modern ports never ever
Dark Forces 2 is also one of the best FPS games ever made

>>5603936
Welcome to Doom General, you also have to blindly praise Romero and ignore any WADs the vast majority of our autists overseers deem unfit for DOOM.
Also you can't say stock Dooms level design was mostly shit until Civvie came and revisionist history put the whole "/vr/ always hated Episodes 3/4" in effect

>>5603936
I wouldn't worry about it, we have a few special boys here that have a nasty temper.

>>5604447
But Romero easily made one of the most infuriating levels in Thy Flesh Consumed, Perfect Hatred.

>>5604447
I don't particularly like episode 3, but episode 4 is damn good.

>>5604450
Perfect Hatred is literally best original level.

>>5603932
>AO
Looks perfectly fine. People just like to brag about their Doom looking as shitty and "retro" as possible.

>>5604484
AO looks good even in low resolution paletteized mode

>>5604447
damn, you really got stung by someone not agreeing with you, huh

>>5604461
No, the best was Against Thee Wickedly. That looked good, and played good. Literally a puzzle game. Expect a similar level in Sigil, E5M4, according to the streams it will have three different paths to explore with many different puzzles like a crusher maze.

>>5604450
I mean you're not wrong but people seem to be positive toward it despite it being so difficult
>>5604451
Parts of it really are. I should clarify that was not my personal opinion but the one constantly parroted. Mine was more geared towards the lesser sections of E2 and 3. 4 is its own monster with little consistency as it was likely rushed.
Against Thee Wickedly is one of my favorites.

>>5604507
>even in low resolution paletteized mode
No, lighting halos looks awful.

>>5604359
Still has E1M8 too.

>>5603965
>>5604063
Never hurts to have more sprites.

>>5604085
>>5604117
id uses reference images, yeah, it's a fairly common industry practice, even for the time.

Gets really weird that Mark often gets blamed for those too.

>>5603965

>>5603965

>>5604636

>>5604615
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1xs---jcV0

Is doom modding codelet friendly? I was making a roguelike since I play those and they seem popular babbies first codes but my PC broke and the backup was corrupt and I don't feel like starting over right now.
It seems simple enough to do very basic weps at least

>>5604719
https://zdoom.org/wiki/DECORATE

>>5604719
There's about three 'toy' scripting languages GZDoom utilizes, the source port which is the popular for modding. The multiplayer-oriented Zandronum is based off an older version of it, which lacks one of these and later refinements.

There's DECORATE, which is fairly simple and is for the creation of things such as new actors and weapons. ZScript is a much more powerful version of it, but it's not as well documented and it's more akin to actual programming. Then there's ACS, which is mostly regarding levels. There are some tutorials in the OP, albeit relatively old.

Of course, mapping in itself doesn't require any real scripting and you can always do that.

>>5604732
Yea as a long time Zandro player it was weird to find basically all the noteworthy recent single player mods require GZdoom, which I had never even heard of.
Its really on the code in the GZ section that goes over my head so far but maybe that's not as complex or required as it seems.

Simpler times, those were the days...

Alright motherfuckers it's SCREENSHOT SATURDAY.
So step up and show us what you've been working on this week.

>>5604738
Zandybam has been behind for a long time, I recall 3.0 being the point where it could actually play Reelism at all and it still probably can't do DRLA yet. GZDoom had a good surge in updates in the past few years, plenty of modders jumped ship because they wanted to play with new features.

Bros, how do I make chat/alert text larger in Zandronum? There's doesn't appear to be any options under the Display Options

>>5604767
DRLA is for a version of ZDoom so it probably does work.

>>5604753
i would show progress
if i fucking had any

>>5604768
>just use messaging options, bro
Not seeing them, HELP

>>5604772
That was made around ZDoom 2.8.1. Wasn't Z& around the 2.7 mark in codebase?

>>5604781
apparently alt-printscreen doesn't capture the overlay?

>>5604787
i think its under hud options
not sure, i dont do zandro
but it def wouldnt be under opengl options
try hud_scale

So what kind of things do you need GZDoom rather than Zandro for? What makes it so attractive in comparison? For singleplayer anyways, no one seems to play it online.

>>5604768
>Display
>Hud
>Text scaling
Should be that one, Zandro options are a mess.

>>5604447
>>5603936
Calm down, you spazzes.

>>5604821
Zscript is the main thing but that comes with the price of dealing with Graf's fuckery and hatred of backwards compatibility.

>>5604827
But what does zscript do that's so special

>>5604753
I'm just too fucking sick, and too fucking busy.

>>5604831
it's decorate on all of the drugs
if decorate can do it, zscript does it with more control and less hacks
if decorate can't do it, zscript can
unless it can't, it's probably a case of 'not yet anyway'

>>5603515
The background gradient looks alright. Playing fullscreen and seeing dudes on an all black background might look underwhelming. Bad? Off. Bland. That's the one. I dunno. Just a hunch.

Have some wall light shit. Would allow for even more fucky/fancy looking shading.

>>5604804
>>5604821
Apparently the options are only available in a single player game, and not in a game launched from doomseeker for multiplayer.

>>5604880
Not sure what I could add though, the plan is heroes on the right side, and bad guys on the left, I'm not sure if I actually want to put anything on the background.
If I do anything it'd probably just be a stone wall background with big bricks and a torch in the middle to help show the light being cast

hey demonsteele dev that I know lurks here
is there a way around the anti-Brutal Doom scripting when I pair it with Ketchup?

>>5604938
the main reason he put that there is to avoid everything becoming a glitchy mess, since Demonsteele has gore of its own

Im not sure if bolognese would work better than ketchup but if the anti BD measures still works it means you just saved yourself some headaches

>Lifesteal is a default melee actor, you just need to fill in the list until you reach it and set to one
That was surprisingly simple. Seems there's nothing similar for ranged weps so I'm guessing ranged weps that do this are usually actually melee or somehow giving themselves drain powerup in the background

>>5604938
>>5604948
Bolognese does work a bit better but the gibs get a bit glitchy on non-vanilla levels.

t. just made GZ crash while going nuts with the DS grenade launcher on Tricks and Traps

>>5604967
>>5604948
I'll give that a try, thanks.

Did terminus add autofire to demonsteele yet
He said he would literally at least over 5 years ago in game

>>5604880
>dithered shading
>banding light

>>5603229
Not Doom but close enough.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=59198

>>5605020
>filename

So apparently some guys on Doomworld have just got their copies of Sigil. Expect leaks soon.

Fake sigil.wad file swarm when?

>>5605023
That's just wrath of chronos with stolen assets from brutal chronos thrown into new maps

What the fuck were the REKKR devs thinking?
>Let's make a Pain Elemental, but with the health and fireball attack of a Baron! Let's also give the Lost Soul equivalent the ability to resurrect monsters like an Archvile!

>>5605054
Make enemies harder to deal with obviously

>>5605052
>inb4 various fake sigil.wads full of lolicon

>>5602674
Rush

It's quite unbelievable that many got their copies, yet, it's still not leaked.

>>5604614
Especially when it’s most famously done in Dead Space. They used actual car crash victims as references for the Necromorphs.

>>5605054
Is that thing in his brain an eye? That looks fucking disgusting.

>>5604753
>>5604780
ok i lied because i just managed to fix a bug in this
introducing
never before seen stair technology
no slipping and falling and tumbling
easy to jump off from
for reference: these are 16 in height and 8 units in length

>>5605076
Maybe they just respect Romero?

>>5605076
Boxes were laced with neurotoxins. Everyone died.

>>5600845
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&start=1575#p1105172
New post from Kinsie.

>>5605101
> with worries about the future
always uncomfortable to read

>>5605113
Inspire the guy. Idea men to the rescue.

>>5600842
Why are there no Tekwar or RN Rampage TCs?

>>5605127
Because the Tekwar game was a big plate of reheated bullshit?

>>5605098
There never was Sigil. It was just plot to commit mass murder. In the end, Romero made every Doom fan his bitch.

>>5605130
>t.never gave the game a chance.
Oh, and its better than NAM, Extreme Paintbrawl, and the awful sequel to Shadow Warrior.

I've been briefly thinking about why all those low-taste mods are getting jounro articles and stuff

And I thought maybe it's because they are on MODDb

As much of a clusterfuck it is for modders and people who are INTO modding, they present clear list of mods with ratings and whatnot for the uninitiated onlooker.

People from outside of the community that only know about 4chan from hearsay would never even think looking for a mod advice here, and looking at the forums offers them no idea of what is good and what isn't.

My point is: maybe more mod authors should post their work on sites like MODDB.

>>5605154
A few years back some admin/mod on there would occasionally upload Doom mods without even talking to the authors. Copypasta description from whatever forum AAAAND DONE.

Hopefully that stopped.

>>5605147
that's not exactly a high bar to clear out lmao

>>5605149
>>>/e/ncyclopediadramatica

>>5605113
Kinsie's always been the type who worries about things, which is a shame.

>>5605208
>>5605124
> many of the long-standing collaborative relationships that fuelled my past Doom works have exploded in spectacular, Hindenberg-esque fashion (mostly my fault, admittedly)
> concern

>>5605208
Has anyone else played the mod from his Github page?
That's how i've been spotting the issues i reported on the mod.
I feel like not enough people play this mod, even for the sake of feedback and suggestions on improvement.

>>5605215
Probably not, not a lot really bother with gits. I, admittedly only really check out the Dakka semi-regularly because that's self-hosted.

Metadoom seems like one of those mods people play for a bit, say it's fucking incredible and then toddle off to other mods with little in the way of glances back to it.

>>5605215
Plenty of people play Meta. They just don't feel the need to sign up as a tester or feedback monkey.

MetaDoomguy’s looking pretty good.

>>5604614
All I remember about Mark using real gore wasn't a situation where he looked up photos of gore and made something new, but a situation where he used real gore photos and put them directly in Doom. Apparently people don't like that, it's disrespectful or something.

When I die you can use photos of my body for gore if you want, just be sure I'm dead and don't like traumatize my family.

>>5605289
> put on a black shirt and your visor shuts off
multiple player colors when

>the purp imps & tomatoes are now niggers
why?

Wish there was a way to download the models from TF2's Steam Workshop, lots of these are simple and cartoony enough to maybe look cool for sprites. Every other 3D model of a gun is just a janky mess of greebles that dissolves at low resolutions.

Oh well.

Did a clean install of windows the other day. For some reason chocolate and crispy doom are dropping frames. GZDoom is running fine though. Any ideas of why?

>>5605312
They're stored locally, no?

>>5605315
No, there's no subscribing to them in order to download them and add them to the game like Any Other Game on the Steam Workshop. All you can do is vote for Valve to add them to the game.

It rarely happens.

>>5605186
It'd be more at home at like Uncyclopedia.

>>5604614
I think it's because Mark had made himself an increasingly unpopular person on every forum he was on, making zero effort on not trying to casually rub people the wrong way.
He would eventually be chased off even 4chan because people couldn't stand the guy.
The realgore thing would be a convenient excuse to tear into him.

For the iD sprites, personally I just always assumed that was one or more of the guys getting in costume for photos and shit and they digitized those.
I know they improvised a lot of stuff, Kevin Cloud scraped his knee on the way to work one morning and they digitized that to make a texture out of it, the hexagon steel tiles are actually a pair of snakeskin boots, and the toy raygun that made the BFG9000 formed the basis for like half the tech textures.

>>5605294
he still used code without crediting people tho

>>5605312
Here's a thing. http://mods.tf/

''

Real Gore
At the 0.16 development, I have planned to replace some gib sprites to be made of real pictures of actual dead people. This caused a lot of controversy, and many people stated that it is "crossing the line" even for a violence mod.
Plus some people said that the high resolution sprites of pieces of smashed brains doesn't looks good with doom's pixelated sprites. Also, I noticed that it can cause some lag if these sprites are spawned in high volumedue the resolution of the sprites. So, I decided to make it a separated module.
http://www.mediafire.com/?bd9qqsw63cs97tr''
Speaking of gore, there was t his

>>5605312
Vidya artists definitely touch too hard on the greebling for fully fictional guns these days.
I mean they won't be scaled down like we would do for Doom, but it's like nobody appreciates a bit more of a clean look, or a gun which looks like it wouldn't be hideously uncomfortable to hold.

Like the chaingun in QC looks so needlessly busy, I get wanting them to look excotic, but at some point you greeble too much and the detail you tried to add just becomes a visually unclear mush.

Is there anything I can do with Reelism co-op to make it so that when all the players die, the game ends? As of right now, it's an infinite cycle of death, respawn, keep killing, which is fun and all but I think we'd have a better time with some challenge in the mix.

>>5605093
Ah, Unreal Engine 1 stairs. This takes me back.

>>5605360
sv_maxlives?

>>5605093
How did you achieve this?
Can you make a down-mountain slalom slide map out of this?

I want something like DAKKA but for Heretic
Also that Power mode couldve been utilised in measured quantities.

>>5605385
Hmmm, I'll try that. Thanks anon.

Apparently demonsteele got a new char. Anyone know what, exactly, her various modes do? She has 4 but only 3 seem to actually work. I figured the other requires bar to turn into, but no, it doesn't. The 3 you can use change her special moves and... apparently add passives and abilities. But I'm not noticing anything beyond that. You shoot, move, react to being shot exactly the same in all

>>5605403
Actually found passives in the coce. Its 25% extra melee, 33% extra I guess ranged or 75% more speed . Nothing for the 4th style which I still don't know how to turn on. No listed abilities, either, even though he says they add those

>>5605390
If you want it, make it

>>5605419
I can't either draw or code for shit

Any classic fps kinda forgotten you guys reccomend?

Been playing some stuff I missed back in the day and replaying stuff I never finished properly like Blood. Hexen 2 was fun as fuck. Sin was cool for Elexis delicious low poly tits and ass.
I might replay Gunman chronicles.

Might try to get Requiem avenging angel. or maybe even 3dperson stuff like slave zero.

>>5605423
if I could figure out how to do the gunlabs tutorial so can you

I believe in you faggot

>>5605429
im a mega brainlet and i did that tutorial no issue desu
the issue now is i have no imagination to make me think ''i want to add this'' and then figure out how to add it

>>5605425
The Terminator/Skynet ones are alright, I guess.

>Get the file from https://github.com/TheKins/MetaDoom and download the zip.
>Extract it.
>In the metadoom-master folder, you have to drag both metadoom-dev and Makefile into a _zip batch file.
>It asks you whether or not you want a pk3 or pk7 and you type "pk3" then press enter.
>Once it's done, go to the folder "builds" and a file named "metadoom_test(date of creation of the file)" should be there, which is the mod (Or rather a version of it you created).
If this actually works, you may be able to play MetaDoom in its "current" state.

>>5605436
Oh yeah thanks for remind me never finished those.

>>5605436
Weird to think that Bethesda was once ambitious.

>>5605331
Kinda the thing really, Mark's as isolated as vilified from the community as it gets, so almost anything is believable inside the community.

It's a deeply fascinating thing to watch in any community, outgroups that are basically the devil to the ingroup, many of whom basically end up as anti-fans of the outgroup.

>>5605390
Heretical Doom is kind of there already in some ways.