/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5599321
>using a watermarked image
Newfag trying to bait detected

>>5599325

Double digit IQ?

>collecting
>hobby

>>5599492
I presume people who pride themselves on not owning anything real probably don't care about anything real either.

>>5599524
Skill is real

>>5599529
Remember how Billy Mitchell got disgraced in his gaming community for setting records with emulation? If you take your skills seriously you will put them to the test on legitimate hardware. Otherwise is mental masturbation.

>>5599321
I would legit play "Altered Breast Tournament Golf"

>>5599556
That wasn't the reason though?

You do know there are categories for real hardware and emulation because MAME isn't perfect, right?

The reason was that he lied about where he got his scores, not that he used emulation...did...did you really think people just ignored his records because of emulation!?

>>5599609
I think that emulation includes save states and innumerable other ways to cheat. I also think from your post that you believe that emulation is equally to real hardware. Am I wrong in my thinking?

>>5599609
I think that emulation includes save states and innumerable other ways to cheat. I also think from your post that you believe that emulation is equally legitimate to real hardware. Am I wrong in my thinking?

>>5599621
Yes, emulators allow you to use saves states and cheats, but there are ways to use those on consoles, too. And they're obviously not allowed in speedruns and are easily detected. NES and SNES emulation is so close to actual hardware that it's practically indistinguishable.

Emulation for more advanced systems hasn't gotten to that point yet, but the speedrunning communities for each game account for that. There's usually a specific emulator build you have to use, and in some cases emulators have their own leaderboards. As long as those things are accounted for, speedrunning on an emulator is entirely fair. It might not be 'legitimate to real hardware', but most people don't care about that too much and just want to play their games.

>>5599621
Didn't say it was equal, just a different category where people should record themselves playing in a way that proves there aren't any cheats or save states being used.

As for emulation, i have zero problems with it, a lot of people don't have the money or space to buy lots of games and consoles, some good games are crazy expensive, and emulators allow some games to never truly die and be experienced.

Granted, it's not in the actual hardware, but hey, the only reason why some kids will even play some old games is because of emulation and the games being "free" or easy to get, which is better to me than some games being forgotten entirely.

>>5599321
>Go play your fucking emulators and shut the fuck up already.

Try making me. :)

Data has value. Old plastic, not so much.

>>5599524
I pride myself on many real things, video games just aren't one of them.

>>5599728
>>5599735
Imagine loving a game so much as to spend hundreds of hours playing it but not enough to spend a little money on order to play it authentically. How little is those people's time worth to them? Emulation is fine, a great way to sample a game you might be considering for purchase. It's a convenient way to play a variety of games. It's portable. It's not the real thing though and it never will be.

>>5599796
Personally I think authenticity is overrated, especially if you already played the game on hardware. Ecco is one of my favorite games ever for example, I've bought almost every release it's had, it's upgraded version was one of the reasons I got a Sega CD in the first place. But up until a couple years back when the glorious 3DS version came out, almost any time I played it was on PSP due to convenience and how nice it looks on the screen (it's still how I prefer to play Tides of Time) I even still had my Nomad and the carts, but the Nomad in reality kinda sucks.

Also I know some people like them, but I despise CRTs and if you're using hardware that's mostly what you're stuck with. I'd never tell you how you should best enjoy your games, and there's something funny to me about you trying to be authoritarian over how I enjoy mine. These days old hardware has zero interest for me.

>>5599796
lol you entitled little fuck have no idea what poverty is

>>5599796
Some people just prefer the convenience of having all their games/emulators in one place and being able to use the same controller for all of them. Plus using an emulator allows you to upscale graphics to make games look more 'clean', makes playing romhacks very easy and takes up way less space than owning all the games and consoles physically would.

I understand your argument about authenticity, though. You seem to be among those people who need the original hardware to have a fulfilling experience. And I don't fault you for that, using an emulator can never be 100% authentic. But in the end, what actually matters is enjoying your games, and I feel that you're going overboard by saying that lots of playtime on emulators is just wasting time.

Maybe this anectode will bring my point across better. My favourite game is Super Metroid and I grew up playing it on an original SNES and a CRT TV. It was great at the time, and I really loved playing it. Many years later, I re-discovered the game on PC, using an emulator. At this point, I was used to playing most of my retro games with a Dualshock 3. It allowed me to use a button layout that wasn't possible on the SNES (Dash on R2) which I greatly preferred. I have since tried playing on an SNES again, but not having the ability to use my favoured layout made the game harder to control and less enjoyable for me. What are your thoughts on this? Am I 'spoiled' by emulation? Or just a fool for not being able to value authenticity the way you do?

>>5599851
>>5599868
I'm not really faulting either of you as you both clearly appreciate the value of real hardware even if it has somewhat less relative value than it does to others. The people I have a problem with are the ones who act as if authentic hardware is some kind of liability or inherently inferior to emulation, though I do believe that for 3D games, emulation's ability to correct shortcuts, upscale and manipulate field of view will eventually exceed the performance of the original hardware and PS1 has already.

>>5599861
This on the other hand I certainly hope is a joke. If not, get off your fucking ass. How many hours work could it possibly take anywhere in the world to buy a mega drive or gameboy?

>>5599559
>"Alerted Breast Tournament Golf"

>>5599902
You really don't understand true poverty

>>5599902
Ecco guy here and I think in many ways emulation is just plain better and I have very little appreciation of real hardware, especially old TVs.

>>5599742
>Data has value.
Where oh where is that "knowledge has no value so it can't be stolen" retard from last month who tried to use it as justification for piracy? You two should meet.

>>5600407
Anyone who thinks data has no value is retarded, but there's also nothing wrong with pirating a game if it's not currently available to purchase new in some way.

>>5599492
LMAO he actually think buying things is a personality trait

>>5601391
It is it's called being a hoarder.

>>5599931
It's a combination of laziness and stupidity, right? Your grandma works her ass off to barely keep a leaky roof over the head of the too many kids that her slut daughter keeps having, none of whom appreciate it or see any reason to take care of themselves or anyone else until they're grandma's age and it's the only way to squeeze an ounce of love out of any of the ungrateful, lazy little shits they were too stupid to see they were creating and teaching to be just like them. Nobody ever thinks about or prepares for the future with the rare exception of a few who "escape the cycle of poverty" and get treated like pariahs by their families rather than the role models they should be treated as. I'm sure that people "trapped" in it have plenty of justification for why it's impossible to have anything they didn't steal but it's obviously bullshit. Do us all a favor and get neutered.

>>5599939
There are many ways that emulation might be subjectively considered "better". As I said it's certainly more convenient and cheaper but at least it seems like you acknowledge that authenticity is desirable on some level even if it's not a very high priority to you personally.

I think that the longer time passes, the less people care about authenticity, many people are happy with mini consoles virtual consoles, more and more people are happy with just emulators, particularly for systems they didn't grow up with.

To many people, the games are the important factor, as long as the game is available in a way that is easy or fun to play, they don't really care about whether it's 100% authentic.

>>5602356
Imagine being this privileged

>>5602356
>authenticity is desirable on some level

Vaguely... but I have a very low low opinon of people who care about how "authentic" someone's gameplay experience was. You are a known troll and I'm just looking at this as another troll thread.

>>5602356
holy fucking shit dude

>>5602556
I assure you that the opinions I express on 4chan are entirely sincere and at most somewhat hyperbolized for conversational purposes. I also don't particularly care how someone plays their games what I don't care for is the attitude that playing actual real games on actual real hardware with literally perfect accuracy is somehow undesireable or inferior.

>>5602384
>believing that a person could make a few less shitposts and use that time to earn $25 for a video game console and multicart is being privileged

>>5602568
I was under the impression that reddit was a leftist hugbox

FYI Funcoland Clown is Babbage's Gramps. His secure trip got banned after he accidentally outed himself as a shitposter. Now he's ban evading as a namefag. Just report and hide his posts.

>>5602852
>I don't care for is the attitude that playing actual real games on actual real hardware with literally perfect accuracy is somehow undesireable or inferior.

Well in my view it's both. Whatever.

>>5602862
Naw he's just a Babs fanboy. They're quite different in reality.

>>5602873
Then you're a dipshit

>>5602879
Are we? How so?

>>5602890
I'm okay with you thinking I'm a dipshit.

Babs was basically shitting in the pool that is /vr/, you're essentially trying to be like hin since he got banned and abandoned ship. It's the same flavour, but an imitation.

I would rather play the games I emulate than hoard physical copies I never use.

I would rather own the games I play than not own the games I play.

>>5603856
I can understand that, but it makes no difference to me. I just like playing games I find enjoyable.

>>5603368
I would rather play the games I collect than hoard ROMS I'll never use

>>5604518
I'd rather hoard lots of ROMs and play them.

I'd rather own and play whatever I want.