/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5595330
Scotformer?

Are you talking about hop and bops or belt sliders?

>>5595430
some gay trendy dysphemism meaning "mascot platformer"

>>5595438
>dysphemism
You mean portmanteau.

>>5595447
also true, though I was saying that it was (likely) created to convey a negative meaning

>>5595330
It's not retro.

>>5595460
is it really THAT good? I thought it was just notable for its specific genre-fusion, at the time

>>5595330
Just say Mascot Platformer, you fucking idiot. Scotformer sounds like a platform game in Scotland.

>>5595434
nah they're 1/3D cartoonvanias

>>5595471
I'd say so. The genre-fusion might just seem like a gimmick, but the two halves are so deeply-integrated and work so well together, it's like platforming on crack. You can't just be good at jumping and combat, you have to git gud at puzzling, too. Not many people played it, but all of my friends and I loved it. There's a big difficulty spike at a certain point, but never obscenely frustrating because the puzzle integration gives you a lot more flexibility in how you tackle things. Every time you fail, you immediately realize exactly what you did wrong and how to do better next time. You get bonuses and charge your abilities with attack combos and juggling enemies, so there's a lot of risk/reward, and it encourages you to not just mash buttons which keeps combat fresh. The puzzles and abilities add layers of strategy to even the most simple obstacles so your mind is always 100% engaged, and it's one of the only games I can think of that absolutely needed the dual screen setup to work. It's pretty sublime.

I loved it so much I actually wrote the developers and got a really grateful letter back from them. They're really a bunch of bros who were just out to make crazy games that they wished existed when they were kids. Their other game, Monster Tale, was not quite on the same level as Hatsworth, but it was still pretty cool.

>>5595532

>He calls mariolikes cartoonvanias

>>5595569
>mariolikes
they're obviously alex-kiddvanias

>>5595558
I wish I had tried it, then. Nintendo Power was always bringing it up, but I thought they were exaggerating. How long is the main game + extras?

>>5595330
>What's the best western-developed scotformer of all time you should play BEFORE YOU FUCKING DIE!!!?

FTFY ;)

No bloody contest.

>>5595624
Pretty much.
Rare also did the best western fighting game.

>>5595330
>>5595528
I thought scotformer meant Eurojank Platformers.

>>5595642
>Pretty much.
Rare also did the best western fighting game of all time.

FTFY ;)

>>5595642
>>5595651
Eh, I liked Eternal Champions for Sega CD more than the Killer Instincts.

>>5595430
One desperate troll trying to force a meme. Don't even acknowledge it.

>>5595661
It's not even comparable gameplay-wise.
KI uses stuff like airblocks straight from Vampire Savior/SF Alpha.
No other western fighting game came close to KI in terms of gameplay and mechanics.
But if you prefer EC because of character design or whatever, that's cool.

>>5595661
>Eh, I liked Eternal Champions for Sega CD more than the Killer Instincts.

FTFY ;)

>>5595596
I got a solid 20+ hours out of it. Then it unlocks a hard mode/new game+ called "Gentleman's Mode" which I could not beat for the life of me.

>>5595661
>Eh, I liked Eternal Champions for Sega CD more than the Killer Instincts before I died.

FTFY ;)

This thread is fun. What other genre names are there?

>>5595330
>What's the best western-developed scotformer?

They all suck. The west doesn't know how to make good platformers, only strategy and simulators.

>>5595807
Spoken like a true weeb.

>>5595651
Are you going to pull this shit on every thread?

>>5595430
>Scotformer?

It's basically a platformer staring a Scotsman.

>>5596303
I thought it was a Scottish version of populous?

>>5595460
>>5595558
Came here to commend you taste. This is definitely one of the best DS games.

>>5595624
Good.

Without a doubt, Superfrog.

>>5596749
I loved this as a kid! Shame the HD remake was a bit of a disappointment.

Imagine you're this autistic person that gets so mad at the mention of the term "metroidvania" that he starts making up random fucking genres

>>5596768
both are objectively AIDS

>>5596772
What would you suggest we call games like SoTN

>>5596780
jetsettansakubeltscottroidvanias.

>>5596780
Metroid-likes or Metroid-esques. If you want to say something directly inspired by the gameplay of SoTN: SoTN-like or SoTN-esque. It's not this hard. Metroid invented/popularized the genre.

>>5596780
Platformer?

>>5595330
"Hey! Shhht! My asshole is THIS big."

>>5595651
>>5595642
>>5595661

Gundam Wing Endless Duel > TMNTTF > Power Rangers Megazord Fighting >
Mortal Kombat > Eternal Champions > Killer Instinct

>>5595330
Ugh. None. Western developers didn’t get good at making games until 3D came around.

>>5596802
By that premise, anything can be called a platformer. Half Life 2, for instance.

>>5596787
>SoTN-like or SoTN-esque
That sounds stupid in a way "metroidvania" can never match it's stupidity. I'd rather memorize this shit >>5596784.

I would make the argument that the vania in metroidvania is earned by the fact that Symphony of the Night represents the other half of the coin of the genre, that being a focus on stats and items and distinctly different level design ethos to Metroid. The game itself was more directly inspired by Zelda according to Igarashi.

>>5596841
Spoken like a true weeb.

>>5596883
Granted, but not for games that don't do stats/levels/items and ONLY do Metroid level design. The former was done way before SoTN, anyway, for example Zelda 2, Castlevania 2, Ys III, Faxanadu, etc. So, again, if it's a a game DIRECTLY inspired by SoTN's (or one of its derivatives') design, use a specific term for this. Metroidvania works if it has attributes of both games, not just of one or the other.

>>5596903
I think that's splitting hairs and getting hung up over semantics to be honest. You're being overly anal about it.

>>5596841
>Western developers didn’t get good at making games until 3D came around.

Sim City, Populous.

Tetris, technically.

>>5596867
2d platformer? Or 2d platform adventure?

>>5596834
You forgot Treasure's Yu Yu Hakusho game, the most based console fighting game.

>>5595624
Came here to post this

>>5595624
Not a mascot

any good scotroidvanias?

>>5597256
Thanks for reminding me that I actually need to watch that show. That game is great.

>>5595330
Try posting again without made up words.

>>5595330

BUT ARE YOU KINO OP?

>>5597256
it's cool how unlike other fighting games, it was designed to be perfectly playable with only 3 buttons so you didn't need to get 4 six button controllers.

>>5597430
Whether you like it or not, a portmanteau of mascot platformer makes perfect sense.

>>5599381
It doesn't work, because everyone assumes you're talking about Scottish games for the Zed-Ex Speculum.

Rougelike is a shit name.

>>5601340
seriously, the games aren't even about makeup

>>5595794
I like how music can have multiples of genre names, but bideo garms maintain nonsense.

>>5595330
>>5595330
>>5595330

Game to hard at 30, should build a time machine to beat it again at 8 years old.

>>5599395
>everyone
No that's just the retards and the darkies

>>5597419
>not a mascot
>his very character is the name of the game

>>5601438
they really cant. all music boils down to 99 percent of all peoples is rap, country, electro or metal there is no inbetween. and even then many will outright say there is only one genre of music and thats good music. and yes people consider acdc metal

Wild Woody

>>5595330
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70hUi_B0CdY

Adventures of Lomax in Lemmingland

Why does /vr/ prefer Kazooiebands over Tooiebands?

Does jazz jackrabbit 2 pass as retro ?

>>5610756
It was made in 1998 with Windows 95 in mind, so yeah.

>>5595430
scottish people in disguise

>>5595330
I know you're just trolling in an attempt to force your weird lingo to spread, but let's imagine that it's a real term for a moment...

Can you name any major platformers that don't have a main character that can be described as a mascot? Or even a brief list of "normal" platfomers compared to "scotformers". Is there any meat to this bait at all?

>>5612706
Prince of Persia.

Rocket Knight Adventures

>>5613045
He's a prince.

>>5595642
so like, do orchid and fulgore fight in a hotel room?

>>5596764
It was a cute game. And the music was pure tits. I still like to listen to an Ancient theme once in a while. Too bad last Moon levels has a number of "fuck you player" traps. One fuck-up costs you entire progress because you can't proceed without a powerup that you lose upon dying. Hope you have those level codes.

>>5595643
Rayman 1 is pretty high on that list

>>5612706
Flashback.

>>5595330
>the virgin scotformer vs. the chad chadformer

>>5612706

I think if your character's name is in the title, it's a scotformer. So something like Pitfall is not a scotformer. We call them notformers.

>>5595330
Rayman is the best yourmomisacuntformervania imho.