/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[5-18] BuildGDX update with FOV slider and other fixes, now supports Duke Nukem
https://m210.duke4.net/

[5-16] REKKR updated to v1.16
http://manbitesshark.com/

[5-15] GZDoom 4.1.2 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64701

[5-12] Quake 1 sounds remastered
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61714

[5-10] Nightdive's BLOOD remaster released
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8x89BBjI8

[5-9] Sigil delay entirely on the disk
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-may-2019/?page=47

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61717
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61718

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64582

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61715

[5-1] Release of GZDoom 3.8.0 Vintage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64521

[5-1] Memoirs of Magic now fully released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=50250&start=465#p1101659

[4-29] Hell-Forged updated to 0.9, Episode 1 fully playable
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[4-27] Introducing Lt. Typhon, a new mod from the maker of Baradoom and Nun with a Gun
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64378

[4-23] Jimmy releases Faithless, a Hexen-style hub mapset for Heretic
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64411

[4-19] NBlood updated
https://github.com/nukeykt/NBlood/releases/tag/v1.01

[4-17] Grezzo Due 2 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105657-grezzodue-2-has-been-revealed-to-the-public/

[4-16] RemasterSFX repackaged in .wad format for maximum compatibility. With some bonus goodies.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105645-remastersfx-in-wad-format/

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Best waifu. Too bad she's always forgotten in favor of thirty different suspiciously-butch "WHAT IF DOOMGUY WAS GIRL?" designs.

>>5585998
You can extract the .deb files (with your preferred archive tool) for different versions and place them into another folder (e.g. /opt/).
Only problem with this method is your dotfiles might get overwritten/cause problems with some versions, but I've been playing other games so I can't assure you this is true.

>>5588329
the very best

>Tomb raider 1's nude patch shows light pink nipples in the main menu screen
>Getting excited af bros
>Open up game
>Nipples are actually dark brown and look almost African
What the fuck where do I report this

>>5588081

So, can this actually work on any map just by analysing its textures/sectors, or does it work only on levels that you defined?

Grezzo Due 2 reveal has been on the OP for a full month and noones hyped. Damn

>>5588510
maybe people just don't care about brazilian shitpost mods

>>5588524
Grezzo 2 is a fantastic game.

Opinion on hedon's updates locked behind steam paywall?

>>5588550
Jesus Christ, you could play YYZ on those abs.

>>5588550

Is there a better to organize your WADs? Maybe individual folders for every WAD with a shortcut to GZ?

>>5588589
DoomLauncher

>>5588589
Forgot pic. Also shortcut idea didn't work.

>>5588589
There's ZDL. You can assign your source port, IWAD, and any number of PWADs you want and organize their load order.

>playing french meat mod for blood
>airport level
>see this

wtf

How proficient do you need to be in 3D modelling to map for Quake?

>>5588562
Kinda killed whatever interest I had in it. Plus, I don't even have Windows, so I'm not buying it.

>>5588616
>people disliking 'muhrica

GZDoom reams my shitty AMD toaster and makes it overheat. Is there anything I can do performance-wise?

>>5588693
Limit FPS to your refresh rate.

I finally beat TNT. The last three levels went down really quickly after I finally beat Mount Pain. Plutonia is harder overall, I'm aware of that, but it doesn't have those horrible Mount Pain-esque spikes that TNT has, does it?

>>5588693
Nope

>>5588307
SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT BLOOD:

1. How do you get mods running in DOSBox?

2. What should be used for MIDI in BuildGDX? (Such as Gervill, Microsoft MIDI Mapper, etc. The shit you can choose from in the launcher.)

3. How to make the frame rate run more consistently in BuildGDX?

>>5588693
Possibly turn the fucking settings down? If you already have, your toaster isn't enough for gzdoom, which is sad because gzdoom used to be a fuck lot lighter. I'm sure older versions are problematic in a lot of ways, but at least they'd run better.

>>5588804
Does it really run that worse, relatively speaking, as long as your card natively supports GL 4.0?

>>5588169
Where can you even get WON nowadays?

>>5588594
what
>>5588597
said, ZDL takes some setting up but once you've got it there, you can just drag and drop into it as well as save/load loadouts.

>>5588757
Plutonia kind of just keeps ramping up as you go.

>>5588872
Old copies and software piracy.

Speaking of which, does anyone know if Xash3D uses the old WON era menu? I really like that interface.

Making a start on Douk 3D and got eDuke32 set up. Polymer or Polymost? Anything I should know?

Why does aiming in this feel so weird? Is it just me?

>>5588942
Polymost is Ken's OGL implementation of BUILD from 2003, Polymer an advanced development of that done by the Eduke devs in 2008.

They vary in speed, accuracy and visual fidelity.

>>5588597
ZDL is perfect if you like having pre-configured files to use as shortcuts for various mod load outs.

>>5588620
You don't. Trenchbroom is fantastic for jumping right in, very intuitive and easy. I'd say you're actually better off with prior experience in CADCAM than in normal 3D modeling.

>>5588947
Same, I tried pretty much all the settings, both general sensitivity and y/x axis, but it never felt right, either it feels like I hold cinder block in my hand or Lo Wang makes 180 spins with the most gentle movement.

Why is there no good Shadow Warrior source port? Lack of interest? Redux being good enough?

How to strafejump in Quake 3 Arena? Where is strafe key first of all?

>>5589073
>strafe key
Is English not your first language?

>>5589073
If you mean like in Doom where there’s a button that makes turn keys into strafe keys, there isn’t one. It’s just “strafe left” or “strafe right”

>>5589089
No. I see keys for turn left and right and step left and right. Which ones do I need to press to strafejump?

>>5589131
did you try googling 'how to strafejump' because a video helps way more than us trying to describe it

>>5589031
Probably a combination of the two.

>>5589136
Of course not.

>>5589073
With a WASD setup you would use A and D to strafe left and right respectively, then to strafejump you jump while strafing left or right.

>>5589193
You forgot moving forward and back. Strafejumping isn't literally just jumping while strafing sideways.

>>5588376
no, but its compatible with it
>>5588439
technically works with every map but works best with maps that use only or mostly vanilla textures

>>5588307
I love my wife, Crash!

>>5589196
I guess. I actually don't really know how to strafejump or how to bunnyhop or shit, I just know it's not a ready command you press a button for.

>>5589243
Can you give that thing a try on say, some of the Going Down maps? That's like 99.8% vanilla textures.

>>5589247
Your wife's abs are a wonder of the world!

>>5589247
We know already doom guy you can't stop talking about her.

>>5589250
tried it out on the first couple of maps, seems to work pretty well

>Hacx: Twitch'n Kill
The fuck is this? Seems kinda bad.

>>5589396
A mid-90s TC that's mostly notable because it was sold commercially without licensing from id. It's alright, if only because underneath it all it's still Doom. There's far worse old FPS you could play.

reminder

any tips for Strife lads? This game seems hard, at least on the "veteran" difficulty

>>5589458
The fire grenades are great for setting yourself on fire.

>Crash was the original player character for Doom, but development was constantly delayed due to Romero, Petersen and Adrian constantly having to stop and bukkake the model used to digitize her sprites.

>this continued for weeks until John Carmack, frustrated with the constant delays, whipped out his gargantuan batter-blaster and erupted a stream of jizz so forceful, it launched the Crash model deep into unknown parts of texas

>the team agreed that a male protagonist would be a better fit for the game after.

Quotes straight from the Bible.

Looking at rekkrs dehacked file I have enough states to make maybe 4 new monsters or so, max. Whether I can justify that with the attacks available (I'm pretty much out of projectiles I think) is another thing.
Originally I didn't want any hitscanners. Wonder if there's something there now...
Also I could toss in my vanilla rain effect, which would be fun.

>>5589474
>easy-access cleavage underboob hole for titfucking
NICE
>taking the helmet off
NOT NICE

If Crash isn't the final boss of H-Doom (final) I'm going to be mad.

>>5589475
Can you do hitscanners that face target, wait a few tics, and then attack?

>>5589396
Kenneth Scott, the Quake 3 artist what made the textures and skins look really good, worked on it. I'm not sure exactly what he did but I'm pretty sure some if not all the weapons, the monsters that look like Kenneth Scott art, and the status bar and face.

https://superactionfunboy.tumblr.com/post/58388460865/some-of-my-doom-mod-work-hacx-and-my-remorse-map

He also did some Quake 1 skins (fanart), Daikatana skins, gave Doom 3 THAT unique look (which is basically the only thing Kenneth Scott does so you just have to find more games he's worked on to get Doom 3 / Quake 3 aesthetics).

I wanna chain Eric on my basement until he pops out a new BURL TUMD update

that or at least a quick fix that removes the archies doing constant damage and the cacos blinding you
pls

>>5589458
minimissiles and grenades are your bread and butter, not so much the crossbow or assault rifle
the mauler is pretty much a combination SSG and BFG, even inquisitors won't stand up to its secondary fire
stock up on health and armor regularly, you autouse the stuff so it's worth having more than the minimum
phosphorous grenades are ridiculously powerful, each individual flame spams explosions equal to doom rockets constantly
explore thoroughly to find secrets, not everything's going to be handed to you directly from quest dialogues

>>5588307
I got the Quake 3 RL in Quake 1

>>5589494
About that

>>5589508
Why?

>>5589513
That bright green visor looks like crap.

>>5589518
it's kinda cool, it's got vents up top to singe your scalp smooth

>>5589513
Based stuff, but Crash is not GREEN

>>5589396
It has some nice sprites and textures, which is why people have pillaged that over the years, but on its own, it's just not a very good game.

>>5589521
>>5589547
Y'all forgetting about translations. Doomguy's sprites are green but they're translated to custom colors. She can be green, blue, red, pale red, orange, brown, tan, light brown, pale brown, dark brown, etc.

>>5589561
Yeah, but Crash's viewport doesn't have color at all. It's just static- her visor's crashed.

>>5589497
Like a charge up blast, or wind up minigun? Yeah. That I can do. Can't do any fancy effect for it though. It'd just use whatever hitscanning is available.

>>5589586
Nah, I just mean doing like that gives you some time to dodge between the moment the monster attempts beings to fire at you and the moment it actually does. Meaning you can circle-strafe hitscanners too.

Also I'm apparently too tired to not type like an absolute retard. Too much zscript, too little caffeine and food.

>>5589568
Maybe if it wasn't a skin and had its own player class so it could animate at all times it'd work but I don't care for it aesthetically.

It's a small sprite with limited animations, can't have all the details of the original 3D model with its shaders. Unless you wrote a shader for the sprites to add in noise I guess, but that's limiting its usage to modern GZDoom with hardware mode.

Guess it wouldn't be too hard to have a version of sprites where the visor is a unique color like blue so that it can be targeted by a shader using a boolean like if red + green == 0 then display the animated static stuff with the blue value overlaid on the static as gray. Then anyone who cares to enable it can have a 4x4 block of random values on Crash's visor.

>>5589592
Ah. I suppose you could, yeah. Might work well.

>>5589598
does she fugg?

>>5589506
Also, isn't the mauler's second alt fire actually the same weapon as a seperate weapon in the same slot?
Don't forget most secrets aren't marked as secrets

>>5588616
Damn frogs

>>5589475
Can you make the raindrops shorter and cokme down at same angle? Right now they look like lasers fired by Great StormTrooper Up In The Sky

Whats a good mapset with more open ended levels?

>>5589475
That rain doesn't look bad for DeHacked actually.

I've just started playing Doom 2 after playing it once in 2003 with my dad and holy shit, I would've never made it past the first half. Downtown is probably the worst level in all of Doom 2, it's just the absolute worse.

>>5589506
Kinda agree on the rockets and grenades.
The electric bolts are kind of just the pistol tier weapon, and though the assault rifle is good for picking off acolytes at a distance, or doing CQB to avoid blowing yourself up, tougher goons really call for explosive firepower.

>>5589652
Yeah. I did the varying angles because when you rotate around they always come from the right or left and it looked weird.
This was a pretty quick little thing to test the idea. It would probably be better to keep the random angles, but lessen the angle.
>>5589689
It would be best used in smaller more controled areas.

Is Heden good? Might get it on steam but using the word "boomercore" in its description is cringe. Also it looks kind of shitty.

>>5589783
I haven't played it, but the impressions I get is that it's not actually bad, though the art and proportions look kinda strange and wonky at times.

>>5589783
you can download it from the zdoom forums for free last time i checked

the steam release is more of a donation thingy

Anyone have a link to datanons zscript vids?

Got back from a vacation. Sigil still fucking delayed?

I like how this looks like braille writting.

>>5589783
It's kind of alright but not worth buying, a lot of it is kind of janky and it's borderline deviantart OC shit.

>>5589739
Just make them fall straight down, even that would look better.

Also the falling down sprite combined with the low frame rate makes it look like they splash midair
I certainly thought that was the case when I first looked att the video.
If you can't remove it without also removing the splash on the ground, then just removing splash outright would be better IMO

>>5589865
Yeah. Possibly combine the rain effect with an animated set of flats.

>>5589865
I had some issues with the way it looked when they were falling straight down. (this is an old test that uses a tracer action for the splash)
But like I said I did this all pretty quickly, so if I do use the effect I'll update it.

>>5589898
>>5589865
IIRC Aeons of Death made dehacked rain effect that looked rather well.

>>5589915
>Aeons of Death
I meant Strange Aeons lol

>>5589682
I'm assuming you're asking for Doom.
I played Maskim Xul this weekend and it's great! I didn't beat the third map without cheating but the 2nd one was a treat. It will take you about 90 minutes to 2h. There's a lot to explore and get lost in.

>>5589898
>>5589915
might even be worth a shot to remove the streak of rain and only include a ground splash.
or maybe a ground splash and varying mid-air droplets.
I'll check out strange aeons though.

>inmost dens getting updated again
neat

what happened to colorful hell?

>>5589810
OliBia

>>5589956
It was supposed to be the entry for the HWP.
I also didn't recall seeing that in the mod's GitHub during updates.

>>5589954
What do you mean?

>>5588307
Does anyone have novert decompiled? I just want to see what it's doing so I don't have to relay on it.

>>5590104
the enemy mod with the color tier system
is it still updates?

>>5590164
Yes

So I'm at this part in E1M6, and clearly I have the fire key which is clearly what is meant to be used for this switch, but 'use' isn't doing anything. Is it just straight up broken or is there something I'm missing? BloodGDX btw, and this is happening on both the last version and the latest update.

>>5590130
I’m assuming it just disables vertical mouse movement, right?

>>5590185
That sucks. Report it, maybe?
I also noticed the custom difficulty is kinda broken on the last version of BuildGDX.

>>5590194
Yea but I was more curios as to how it was accomplishing it but from another thread seems like it's a bitch much, not like just another config file that's changing settings.

>>5590210
I’m not really sure how it works on the inside (or most DOS things at that), but /idgames has the program for download. The zip is only 800 B, so it couldn’t be too big. The only issue I see is decompiling it, because I don’t know how.

I hope Crash shows up in Eternal, even has a MP skin.

>>5590238
>even has a MP skin.
"As" instead of "has".
But also, she could use a campaign expansion on her own.

>>5589816
It's crap and people should say something

>>5589816
It's supposed to be finally shipping out.
Haven't received mine yet.

Damn I though Freedoom was pretty much complete. This is the first one of these I've seen, at e3m5.

Does it get worse later on and in Freedoom 2?

>>5588550
Like it's good, but why.

>>5590452
>but why
I don't understand the question you're asking.

>>5590210
I think it actually patches DOS's mouse handling code in memory.

>>5590452
Why do dogs lick their balls? Because they can.

Beat Shadow Warrior's Wanton Destruction addon. What a disappointment. The level designers seem to have missed everything that made Shadow Warrior fun. The levels are almost all cramped indoor areas full of hitscanners, making it play more like Duke Nukem. And some of the settings feel like they'd fit in better in DN3D too. Not to mention the EXTREMELY shitty/annoying sound replacements they added.

>>5590446
>Freedoom
I never understood why this existed.

>>5590517
It's a free version of Doom.

>>5590510
Yeah, different people behind the two addons. Also lack of polish, probably some reasons why they never got officially released.

>>5590517
>free software bad

This is how Doom looks like in 2019: https://youtu.be/w9IWwqjVJ-0

>>5588616
sacrebleu

>>5589073
fucking top kek

Brutal Doom test: https://youtu.be/w9IWwqjVJ-0

>>5590517
This. Doom is already free.

>>5589816
it's so bad people is simulating it didn't come out yet

>>5589898
it looks like you are under heavy fire

Brutal Doom v21 test: https://youtu.be/w9IWwqjVJ-0

PBR + Neural upscale

>>5590534
Just because it's free doesn't mean it's good.
Free for the sake of free can in fact be quite bad.

>>5590528
So is Knee Deep In The Dead, which is really good.
As far as I can remember Freedoom has been a janky mess of hideous and mismatched placeholders.

If there had been some kind of design goal and idea beyond "let's just replace all the iwad assets with something that's free to use", then maybe it would have been more cohesive and less awful.

>>5588616
It's just banter

>>5590559
What are these lights?

>>5590560
Freedoom looks better and is much more complete than it used to be.

The Git revision I have finally has proper sprites for the Arch-vile and there's been great effort in replacing the shittier assets with more consistent and professional looking ones.

>>5590564
just report.

>>5590550
No it's not. Not it's assets.

>>5590559
Did you (or whoever made this) fix the fucking normals?

>>5590569
>just report.

Is Brutal Doom illegal here?

what does vanilla mode in BloodGDX do?

>>5590550
The first episode is free to play, if you want to play the other episodes or the sequels, you need to pay.

The idea with Freedoom is that it will run in any Doom engine or port, but it's made up completely out of freeware assets and levels, so it can be legally distributed with any port.
I see the reasoning, but I also don't think it's really a good enough idea that it's worth seriously considering.

>>5590586
I’m wondering this too. In-game, all it seems to do is change the view height slightly.

>>5590564
Cardassian torture method.

>>5590625
Shoulda known it was those spoonheads.

>>5590625
oh you

thoughts on City of Doom part 1 wad? crazy how it's 19 years old and still holds up

>>5590601
It would be a lot neater if the assets were higher quality.

>>5590641
No one cared about your post til he >>5590661
Bumped the thread

>>5590670
If I reply to your post will you die?

>>5590641
I like older wads. Never played that one though.

i wish they made a build engine game out of the evil dead franchise instead of shitty beat em ups

closest we got was blood

>>5589809
https://www.bitchute.com/channel/datanon/

why in the extra chipotle fuck won't civvie upload his smooth doom edit

>>5590686
The beat em ups are pretty fun though (except hail to the king which is a massive pain in the ass due to enemies respawning in amounts that seems almost like a bug rather than intended gameplay).
Definitely would've made a better horror FPS shooter though.

>>5590661
The boys are all here. B.J., Doomguy, Corvus, Duke, Ranger, Caleb, and Lo Wang.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUNv1FiuxJo
Dear lord, are there people who actually think this looks good?

>>5590691
He drank too much boomer juice again.

>>5590706
455 seem to like it.

>>5590713
You mean 2.2k? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ch8yUKwvOM

>>5590726
Oh.

i've come to repent

>>5590661
whos the dude with the chainsaw?

>>5590691
bitch to him on twitter about it

>>5590706
>>5590726
here's my 1up https://youtu.be/w9IWwqjVJ-0

>>5590706
This is what happens when somebody who is zoomer and hates original Doom starts to engage with GZDoom modding.

>>5590601
It's the same old issue people have with getting that free software doesn't just mean software that doesn't cost money, it means software freedom.

FreeDoom is about having something that you can do whatever the fuck you want with it, as long as you respect the terms that come with it, usually meaning you can even charge for your own edited version of it.

>>5590750
No, all the videos on his channel are troll videos to mock the purists.

>>5590737
>whos the dude with the chainsaw?
john rippentear

>>5590737
Doomguy?

>>5590601
Any engine? I thought Freedoom maps needed at least Boom to run. Or did they scale back the maps at some point?

>>5590761
>>5590768
sorry, i blinded by the fact that he was out of uniform

>>5590790
>out of uniform
He's wearing the same armor he always wears, the only thing he doesn't have is his helmet

>>5590790
But he is. He just took off the helmet.

>texture filtering looks ba-

>>5590816
>>5590825
Looks nasty.

>>5590816
texture filtering only looks good at very low resolutions

>>5588616
>Cultists did 9/11

>>5590830
It should. It's a bunch of exposed intestines.

>>5590839
I know that. And that’s a good thing.

UAC labs (by Eric Harris) with modern lighting effects.

>>5590846

>>5590849
>>5590846
Would he be proud?

>>5590854
It’s everything he ever could’ve dreamed of and more.

>>5590846
>>5590849
Not bad.

>>5590854
After I'll make a walkthrough video which will get 1k> likes yes.

>>5590816
>>5590825
> please pay no attention to the ssg or the hud

>>5590754
In a practical sense though, there's very little you can't get away with doing with Doom's actual assets though, the only thing being actually trying to use them for a commercial product.

>>5590816
>>5590825
Interesting. Not sure I love it as the example here (looks kind of uncanny), but that's certainly an effect which may useful for something.

How's it look with the floor properly reflecting the red light from the sky, and how does this work with dynamic lights and brightmaps?

>>5590705
But where's the Hexen lads?

What are the best HUD mods for classic Doom?

>>5589915
>>5589920
I recently went to find that again and thought it was called Aeons of Death. Odd since "strange aeons" is straight from Lovecraft.

>>5590893
I found Parias. Not sure about Baratus and Daedolon.

>>5590918
Ultimate DoomVisor.

>>5589820
Based blindposter.

>>5590931
>PISTL

>>5590732
What WADs are those? Are you Little Red Riding Hood?

>no option or mod to replace the sounds in Doom 2016 with classic sounds
Shame.

>>5590978
>Doom 2016
>Mod
Unironic lmao my dude

>>5588524
>brazilian shitpost mods
Italian tho

>>5588589
>not right clicking in folder and opening command line/powershell and manually adding your wad order
But yeah theres always the launchers other anon's suggest, i just find them odd to use nowadays

"Once, she was Doom's military instructor. Now the Arena Eternal tests Crash's mettle to the extreme-extreme patience, that is. She is the trainer who introduces new warriors to the skills of battle"
Crash is basically Doomguys 'The Boss' like MGS3

>>5590981
It has a few on Nexus so they do exist so what are you on about?

>>5590997
but did he surpass her making him big doomguy?

>>5591007
>not 'Big Guts'

>>5591005
When did they all get deleted then? I see a whopping 2 that aren't for alpha/beta, and even they are pathetic

>>5591018
But you were giving me shit like mods for 2016 didn't exist. I was just saying it's a shame there isn't a mod or option for classic sounds.

>>5591027
I never said they didn't exist, i was lmaoing@u for thinking the doom 2016 modding community is anywhere near popular for anybody to make something worthwhile, or something at all. One of the 2 "mods" is just a tool to extract resources, and the other is a fucking save file.

>>5591007
>>5591010
Yes. I can’t wait for when he gets replaced by a combat Medic that had facial reconstruction surgery to look like him, after their base got destroyed while they weren’t looking.

>>5591007
>not Big Guy

>>5591036
For you.

>>5591029
I wasn't commenting on the actual status of the modding community at all with that post, just a shame that no one ever made a sound swap mod. I could see for myself that there mods for it are lackluster.

>>5590846
>>5590859
lol

>>5590687
thanks senpai

After taking a break for about a year, what major things have I missed bros?

>>5591175
Zion?

So whats the best duke nukem version to get?

Whats the best Doom wad with war like large maps to use ally bots on ?

been overhauling the painter in term's golf thing
worked out a bezier interpolation system, so now the painter does nice smooth curves
looks real nice

>>5591279
fancy as shit

Should people who unironically play with shit like this be tied up and beaten with sticks?

>>5591318
I don’t care. As long as I still get to play the original, I’m fine.

>>5591279
That is fucking cool

>>5591318
I don’t care. As long as people are tied up and beaten with sticks

>>5591279
> cursor painting to boot
damn son

>>5591279
I don't care. As long as people beat my stick.

>>5591318

>>5591353
check who you reply to next time

Whats the best way to play doom 2 on android with mods? Anyone has cracked delta touch?

>>5591318
>>5591360
He he I did some of the textures and models in the DN3D HRP. Thanks for the (You) and have fun playing anon :^)

>>5590661
Get that id trash outta here

>>5590816
>texture filtering looks bad
Yes.

>>5590816
>>5590825
oi somebody drew proper normals. that's a start, but lose the filtering, it just smears these low res textures to death.

>>5591447
>id-trash
Dude, this is retro fps thread. id "trash" is pretty much essential shit here. Duke isn't even id character btw.

This might be bait, but what the hell, I'm at workplace and killing some time.

>>5590879
True, though if the zdoom police went on a moral crusade again, they'd fuck a lot of shit up for people.

Also a few have tried to sell commercial products with Doom assets in them, worked up till the point where it was noticed.

>>5591279
Ten times the ability to draw cocks on everything!

It's summer which means you ARE playing Duke 3D vacation and also the regular base game but with the vacation .grp loaded right? RIGHT?!

>>5591509
No, I'm playing this.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/v-z/vacav14

>>5591509
I'm playing through Episode 2 of DN3D right now and dealing with surprise hitscanners. Did the developers intentionally make the drones sound like Doom imps, because holy fuck it throws me off.

>>5591509
I'm playing the doom wads, that I still got in my "playing queue". So much of them.

what .wad dis
the OP is being a pooplord and won't divulge the information

>>5589783

>>5591532
Unlikely. They just used a lot from the same sound libraries (sound ideas series), many devs did in the 90s.

>>5591571
Knee Deep in ZDoom?

>>5591640
Even now a fair few do, and it always comes up as people thinking they might have used Doom sounds intentionally.

It's nearly never the case.

>>5589598
It definitely looks better already without the visor made green for paletting, gray is the most suitable.

>>5591571
>imagine comparing a fan made doom wad to the remake of re2

>>5589642
Strife does alt-fire not with a secondary attack key, but by just making it a second weapon in the same slot, effectively being a fire mode.
Electric bolts and poison bolts are two weapons on one slot, even if there's only the one crossbow pickup, regular grenades and willy pete grenades are two weapons on one slot too (and there are some cut sprites for a third grenade, probably meant to be poison gas, which likely would have gone in that same slot).

There are mods which combine stuff like this though, Weapons Of Rebellion makes the grenade launcher an upgrade for your assault rifle, and makes the different bolts just a selectable fire mode (also letting you get an upgrade for the crossbow to make electric bolts less pitiful later in the game).
I think Brutal Strife did stuff along those lines too, but less complex and refined.

>>5588693
If you're just playing maps, use PrBoom+ or Eternity instead. The amount of good mapsets that require GZDoom (or zdoom-based ports in general) is miniscule compared to vanilla and boom mapsets.
If you have to because of gameplay mods, then you're probably out of luck I'm afraid

>>5591571
I'm not exactly sure what this is trying to convey?

>>5591532
>>5591640
IIRC, there are a few sounds in Duke 3D that were also in Hexen, too.

>>5589694
Doom 2 gets a bit rough in the middle, but there's some pretty good ones later (and a few pretty bad ones).

Downtown is definitely not one of my favorites, but Factory is one which really drains away my joy, particularly given that it follows Bagel Of Deconstruction, which is a pretty excellent map, so it's kind of a whiplash.

>>5590978
I think they would likely clash horrendously because classic Doom and Doom 4 have radically different sound design.

>>5588693
What exact toaser do you have?
What FPS does your GZDoom shows when CPU begins to overheat?
Do you have set any post processing settings?
Have you tried setting rendering accuracy from Quality to Speed?

>>5589783
Dev has a Furaffinity account full of futa shit using the characters and the maps from the game, which he is purging right now to try and hid his degeneracy.

>>5591509
Usually I like to save it for darker times of year, as I find it so very uplifting (feeling so vacation-like), but hey, maybe I'd give it a go in the summer too.

I wish more games did things like that, a bonus episode which is less serious and just plays up a theme like that. Duke Caribbean's gameplay is like 99% stock Duke 3D, and mostly it's a level pack with reskins, but it's so damn charming, and the levels are so good, it holds up excellently.
I really wish there was another episode, a fan made one.

>>5591806
Countless other sites like hentaifoundry full of it too.

>>5591806
Why bother? It's not like people won't know, and a lot of people won't even care.

Instead of cowering over it, he should just own it.

>>5591509
IT'S TIME TO LIMBO

>>5591532
https://twitter.com/SlappyCromwell/status/1128813352761909248?s=20

>>5591832
This seems accurate enough.

>>5591816
This is why we can't have nice things

>>5591832
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Useless Trivia: The drone scream itself is a mountain lion hissing, the attack boost is a sped up servo motor.

>>5588562
there's an increasing number of commercial games being made with GZDoom now, don't get what's with this particular influx of autism on Hedon, the dev released a freeware version of it with the first episode already

>inb4 ree why don't the mods I like make money
Because they're either shit nobody outside of the doom community would play, don't own legal rights to their assets, are based on a copyrighted IP (ie. DOOM) or don't have the proper management to be published

>>5588616
>Destroying a landmark is not a cliche when it comes to the twin towers
Absolute brainlets

>tfw Blood is too hard for me
Did I just pick the wrong difficulty option?

>>5591852
This. Action Doom 2 had a tiny commercial release back when it was new (basically just a physical disc with the game and a couple of bonuses on it), and that's the only ones besides Adventures Of Square which I think would have much merit to be able to be sold commercially.

Back To Saturn X could *maybe* be sold once it's complete, as you would use Doom 2 wad to run them, and otherwise they contain all original levels and assets.
You would need some kind of added incentive over just packaging the .wads for sale, however.

>>5591882
Try Well Done.

>>5591852
>tfw no old-timey cardboard Rekkr boxed set with a thick manual

>>5588562
>>5591852
Hedon's really not worth being bothered about it.

It has some decent environments but the mapping seems to be mostly to be looked at rather than being played, the weapon sprites are rather hit and miss and the player sprites, ignoring the style and the /d/ shit, there's something very wrong with how they shift about, so much so that you have to wonder why mirrors were put into the maps.

Feels like it had potential but fell off the wagon somewhere along in development.

>>5591893
Haven't had it installed in a while, should I use BloodGDX or Fresh Supply?

>>5591910
BuildGDX

>>5591910
GDX first, and if you like it, consider get Fresh Supply. You don’t have to, though. It’s just optional.

>>5591882
It's a hard game, but it has logic to it, and it favors defensive play combined with high mobility; strafe, run, duck (the cultists have difficulty hitting you when you get down low), and jump a lot, never stand still or try to tank damage if you can help it (gunshots hurt a lot).
Don't be afraid of using corners, pillars, and other features of the maps for cover (don't stay there for too long, however).

The game gives you a lot of dynamite, and you're meant to use it liberally, it can be bounced around corners to surprise and flush out enemies, and in general can just be thrown on the offensive because that shit sends them flying.
If you're playing on DosBox, mind that loading a saved game inverts the damage scaling for the rest of the level, the ports fix this bug.

>>5588307
Is Blood Fresh Supply the patched version now? Last time I DLed it, it was pre-patch still.

>>5591882
There is straight up no shame in STARTING Blood on the lower difficulties. It's a straight up ballbuster of a game, and even it's "Normal" difficulty, is tougher than Ultraviolence on Doom, or No Pain No Gain on Shadow Warrior.

>>5591910
Fresh Supply had a lot of the awful bugs patched, so it isn't as atrocious as on launch, but it still isn't accurate, all the hitboxes are a quarter smaller, for instance.

I'd wait to see if they'll patch it more.

>>5591917
>>5591918
>>5591932
Alright, anyone got a link to a fully installed Blood? I don't really wanna download DOSbox just to use the intaller

>>5591806
>which he is purging right now
way too late for that.

>>5591923
What's the best port?

>>5591279
Now make a Splatoon Doom mod

>>5591892
Hedon's great but it also triggers some /pol/tards who obsess about the porn of it containing futa who keep spamming in a circlejerk about it here and on 8ch as if anyone cared
I just like it because of how weirdly it resembles Arx Fatalis in atmosphere and gameplay feel, and combines it all with gory fast paced combat. It's like two opposite things coming together and all done by a single autistic hentai artist, it's amazing
Bonus points for being the ultimate brainlet filter because you need to read texts and pay attention to your surroundings, and the graphics are among the better I've seen made in this community, they look like a very distinct style and some of the green babes are admittedly pretty hot

>>5591950
also
>caring about graphics in GZDoom

>>5591882
I consider myself decent at FPS and I died a good 2-5 times per map trying to clear E1 last night on well done. quicksaved twice trying to find two super secrets.

>>5591950
>Hating /pol/
>Supporting furfaggots
>>>/reddit/

>>5591950
I didn’t realize people cared enough about the mod to actively create a hatebase for it

>>5591950
I doubt that it has anything to do with /pol/

>>5591958
>t. angry incel who can't stand some harmless porn that isn't even pushed in the game in any form or shape
/pol/tards need to be autobanned from this board

>>5591967
You are now on the watchlist for supporting authoritarianism

>>5591980
POMF

>>5591965
>nothing to do with /pol
>trashed by a guy with the NZ mosque shooter as avatar and spouting /pol/ memes

>>5591990
I can hardly even read that

>>5589694
What a coincidence I'm on that level right now and I've put the game down twice cus of it. I just can't bring myself to play it it's so boring

>>5591992
That’s how you know it’s /pol/

>>5591990
False flagging agitator

>>5591980

>>5591980
>>5592030
lewd/10

>>5591980
> panties broken
>>5592030
> no clothes at all

>>5590691
it's actually really easy to find if you were willing to ctrl+f on the first pro doom episode. I mimicked the edit myself, it works just fine. There's only one variable you need to change and a person in the youtube comments figured it out already.

From a guy named "TheDramaticSkull" on the prodoom episode 1:

"I think I figured out how he fixed the shotgun. First open the PK3 file with an editor like SLADE or just as a zip file. Go into the DECO folder and then the PLAYER folder. Open up Shotgun.txt in SLADE or a text file editor and change every instance of XTSG L 6 to XTSG L 4. I used Civvies intro at 0:23 to test how synced up they were and I think I got it."

There. Turns out I deleted my smooth doom folder so I lost the edit. Ended up just hitting ctrl+f on the video, and finding the fix a second time... It really wasn't hard.

>>5591980
>>5592030
oh my
all we need is a milf and we are golden

After so much wait, I hope Sigil will be great. I don't want to see 3 minute long levels like what was indicated in those Twitch streams.

>>5592052
You honestly still believe Sigil will be worth half a shit?

Romero has an ego because of Doom 1, not because he's still good at making maps. I liked his recent maps, I really did, but they were just as inflated as he is now.

>>5591939
BloodGDX or NBlood, both are good.
Fresh Blood *might* get better later, but right now it's too flawed compared to the previously mentioned ports.
CMBlood is terrible.

>>5592058
seething nobody

>>5591852
>Because they're either shit nobody outside of the doom community would play, don't own legal rights to their assets, are based on a copyrighted IP (ie. DOOM) or don't have the proper management to be published
Or, you insufferable faggot, they don't believe in charging money for a passion project.
t. Modder for other games.

>>5592058
Romero has never made a bad Doom map, Sigil may not be GOAT or anything (and his mapping can be quite overrated), but it will probably be decent.
I'd be genuinely surprised if it turned out awful.

>>5592058
You’d have a bit of an ego if you made Doom as well.

Where can I play a plain as chocolate or vanilla multiplayer Doom session or server? All the servers on Doomseeker for Zandronum have a shit ton of silly mods or rulesets and whatnot. Map PWADs are fine of course, but I'm looking for servers that don't have the gameplay altered or other silly mechanics if they even exist anymore.

>>5592063
seething? I'm not even mad I'm just talking about Romero. He did a fantastic job on Doom 1, and then his new maps were good too. I'm not denying he has charm but he also has ego.

Seems like you're just mad because I said anything remotely negative about Romero, even after I complemented him.

>>5592072
I'm sure there's some people like that, but I don't think his other assumptions are incorrect either.

>>5592076
ZDaemon, if you're fine with limited mouselook and lots of Huehues.

>>5592058
>>5592080
>reddit spacing

>>5592090
No, he's almost 100% wrong. Modding has never been, not before the advent of shit like patreon and e-begging, a for-profit activity. In fact it was always something done for fun and released for free. The idea that not only should you monetize everything you can, but that if you don't it's of low quality or you don't have the right to, is what kills modding communities.

>>5592058
Given how many delays it's had, and the order of some quite big developments to it after some of the delays, I've worn out my benefit of the doubt for where the real fault lies with these delays, and if he's learned anything from Daikatana.

>>5592080
He did a fantastic job on Doom 1 with a team of other people to cover for his flaws, he didn't do such a good job with Doom 2 where he was lately absent, busy doing the rockstar developer thing.

>>5592102
>has no actual argument so he insults the only unique thing about my post
Yeah, you frequent /v/, I can tell. Go back to your containment board.

>>5592107
I agree with you 100%.

>>5592072
This is probably the stupidest comment I've read today, thanks anon.

>>5592105
Commercial mods have existed for a long time but they've generally been something of an oddity or confined to small places like the flight sim community.

It's never been the standard, as much as Gabe Newell and Bethesda would like to claim otherwise.

>>5591980
>>5592030
Sweet.

>>5592105
but Hedon is a full game you stupid nigger, why do you keep calling it a mod?

>>5592115
Go back to your containment site.

>>5592062
>NBlood
It's like you want to summon NESfag

>>5592117
t. soulless insect
>>5592128
Who the fuck is talking about your furry fap game? I'm talking about mods here retard.
>>5592123
It's like saying batteries have existed for a "long time" because we found a few pots of acid in ancient ruins. Then shitheads use it to try to say that they had electric lights 3000 years ago or something.
I agree though.

>>5592129
I've gone to reddit maybe twice in the last two years.

You're dumb for thinking that hitting enter somehow changes the words in my posts, and I'm not going to stop doing it.

There, I did it again, just to piss you off. Fuck you.

>>5592030
and all three done

>>5592140
Youre a naughty child!

>>5592047
Would play a milf seamstress.

>>5592105
I think you're being more cynical than him. Commercial little indie projects (and for that matter e-begging), are not a new thing.

Small fly-by-night studios would cram out commercial wads for Doom in the 90s, and they were nearly all terrible, while free projects were sometimes really good.
People remember Memento Mori 1+2 and Hell Revealed 1+2, which were free, nobody remembers Perdition's Gate or Hell 2 Pay, which were commercial.

The question is which *could* be sold commercially, and his answer, which I think is fairly correct, is that few could, either for legality, or for just not being substantial enough.
Stuff like Square is a complete new game, and could likely be sold.

I also don't think the idea that paid is always better than free mods is a universal notion.

>>5592149
Once again, who the fuck is talking about games here? We're talking about mods, and unless you're one of the retards who thinks that shit like Mass Effect is just a UT3 mod, your entire post has nothing to do with what I just said. If you/your team make literally every asset used in a mod except for the freely available ones, that is absolutely the definition of a new game and if you choose to sell it so be it. Selling map packs was dubiously legal even at the time, and likely wouldn't fly today. We're not talking about that, we're talking about retards throwing donation links on everything and trying to monetize every single passion project that they can because there's no such god damned thing as just making something you enjoy and sharing it anymore.

>>5592058
I can admit, that people overhype Romero's recent maps. They're good, And I can definitely see myself liking Sigil.
But the difference between his iwad maps and his recent maps, is that his iwad maps set the standard and were highly influential among the community. Where as his recent maps are just simply good maps that follow that standard. There's nothing really all that new about his recent maps besides "more doom", and that's fine, but also means that if they didn't have Romero's name attached to them, they wouldn't have had nearly half the attention they've gotten.

>>5592162
>people should not pursue their passion and turn it into their job at some point
>instead they should do it for free because baby neet want free stuff
k retard

>>5592174
>I never do anything unless it's for money
t. Hylic

>>5592162
>>5592149
whenever i look at arguements in these threads, i try to think about why humanity invented the concept of discussion
as if part of it had something to do with finding a solution to a problem, which translated to reaching a conclusion in a topic
half of arguements around here are people reading half the posts or switching points, so the guy who calls hitler a monster also thinks he didn't do anything wrong
or maybe high somewhat advenced ai's glitching at times

>>5592128
Honest question, if Hedon is a full game and not a mod, then why does it still contain references to Doom weapons, monsters and items?

Where do we draw the line?

>>5592178
Pretty sure you just didn't follow the conversation, or are mixing multiple people together.

>>5592162
Some people invest a lot of time in what they make from passion. Nobody forces you to buy what they make.
>E-begging
Patreon is e-begging now? Wew

>>5592107
I honestly think his Doom 2 and Ultimate Doom maps are much better than his Doom 1 maps.
I'll take The Living End or O' Of Destruction over all of E1 any day.

His actual faltering on Doom 2 was that he wasn't there to do more maps, the ones he did make were great.

>>5592181
GZDoom is completely GPL. Don't try to speculate anymore bullshit, the license is right there.

Anyone can use GZDoom commercially from a legal standpoint. Simple as that.

>>5592184
Not that dude but it gets used as e-begging an awful lot on some social media sites.

Not so much the "you can support me if you like" types that you get in this community but people who go out of their way to beg for money because they went and bought $300 headphones and have bills to pay.

>>5592184
Patreon is a weird grey area imo. It's like "hey give me money monthly for goods undelivered".
Yeah, you'll probably deliver. But it's a gamble. Same with kickstarter.

>>5592186
His E1 maps were great, but yeah. They're pretty samey compared to his later works.

>>5592184
>Some people invest a lot of time in what they make from passion
This entitles them to payment why? I spend a lot of time jerking off, it doesn't mean I want nickels thrown at me whenever I bust a nut.
>Nobody forces you to buy what they make.
Nobody forces you to pay for lootboxes in modern games either, doesn't mean they're not cancerous.
>Patreon is e-begging now? Wew
Oh, I'm sorry, did the truth sting your little baby skin? At best it's e-buskering, which is just e-begging with extra steps.

>>5592190
Are Cacodemons GPL complaint?

>>5592162
>who the fuck is talking about games here?
The guy you first got mad at? Is Hedon not basically its own game running on GZDoom? It uses zero of Doom's assets.

>>5592202
>I reply specifically to his retarded statement about modding
>Somehow this means I'm talking about games
Please learn to read.

>>5592042
I know how to edit decorate already. I just wanted an easy fix so I didn't have to do it myself.

>>5592198
>I spend a lot of time jerking off
we could tell
too bad frustrated virgins are not in demand on the market, or there might be some incentive to go commercial for you

>>5592208
It's funny how I knew you'd go straight for that because you have no argument. I can't imagine being so predictable.

>>5592214
that's because you used a strawman comparison, mong
there's a difference between investing time in something worth buying and jacking off

>>5590446
No, let me explain. FreeDoom 2, ironically, came first, because at the time, there were way more wads and maps developed for Doom 2, so they were like "fuck it let's do this." Down the line, however, the FreeDoom 1 project, or "The Ultimate Freedoom" as it was called back then, was started. Even today, FreeDoom 1's project is pretty missing in original content in some places. Hell, Episode 4 is straight up a wad that was released some time before the project. Double Impact is a great episode though, so I think it's okay for them to use it.

So to answer your question directly without the history lesson, FreeDoom 2 will be more complete, and I think it's totally complete barring some placeholder sprites here or there. That said, as the singular diehard Freedoom fan on the planet, I would suggest playing the earlier versions (0.7 at the latest I think) because the maps there had a jankier, "Totally-Not-Doom-2" aspect to them that I found made them very charming, compared to the much more ambitious, if not pretty safe maps of today.

The new music is fucking sweet though. Whoever their composer is does an amazing fucking job, especially with the latest version's Map04.

>>5592219
>that's because you used a strawman comparison, mong
No, it's because you got played. If you had an argument you'd have addressed the rest of the post.
>there's a difference between investing time in something worth buying and jacking off
There's also a difference between profit motivation and passion motivation you hylic fuck.

>>5591806
I wonder if I should hide the nsfw I've drawn of my characters when I make mods featuring them.

>>5592227
I won't bother explaining the basics of economics to an absolute retard like you who probably lives off wellfare in the first place
if you worked a 5 to 9 for more than a month in your life you wouldn't be sperging out like this

>>5592227
>There's also a difference between profit motivation and passion motivation
Yeah. Everyone has a profit motivation. You fucking need money. When your passion, something you don't need, eats into time you could be making money - why not try to do both?
If the work put into what was once a passion project suffers, so be it. It's either take that risk, or just stop altogether.

holy fuck shut the fuck up about mods being for free or not

TALK ABOUT VIDEO GAMES NOT MODS YOU ASSHOLES

>>5592236
Mods are video games.

>>5592221
It's just a shame whoever decides on their sound effects is an idiot, the old gib sound was perfect compared to the one they use now.

>>5592234
>replies with non-sequitors
>implies I don't work
Classic.
>>5592235
>Yeah. Everyone has a profit motivation
Nope, not really. I don't, for example, not beyond feeding myself anyway. I don't give a shit if I profit off of something if I find it interesting and fun.
>You fucking need money
You actually don't need nearly as much as you probably think if you live within your means.
>When your passion, something you don't need
Hold the fucking phone there my dude. Without passion life is essentially meaningless suffering. You NEED passion of some kind if you want to live in anything but the worst hell imaginable.
>you could be making money - why not try to do both?
Because profit motive corrupts passion motive and eventually leads to you making/doing things you don't enjoy to make money. Ask anyone who has made their passion into a job.
>If the work put into what was once a passion project suffers, so be it
Translation: I'd rather make an inferior, but profitable, result because somehow I can't comprehend anything but profit motive.
>It's either take that risk, or just stop altogether.
Not even close, as the above explains.

>>5592236
We're in a board where 50% of the posters work on mods or assets.
Someone tells us that we should never try to put the skills we learn and time we invest and try to turn it into a profitable job, thus being able to dedicate ourselves to it more and keep bringing content for people to play.
We don't appreciate that, so we're arguing about it.

>>5592245
>not beyond feeding myself anyway
Well some of us have families, and uncertain futures we're trying to prepare for.

>>5592246
>We
>We
>we
Where is this "we" you keep appealing to? All I see is people who are very upset at the motion that actions can be taken without a profit motivation.

>>5592236
Mods are fun.

>>5592241
I completely agree. When I saw the fucking wilhelm scream inside the game I instantly knew their creativity was starting to dry up a bit. FreeDoom's older models, although ugly and janky as hell, had, /v/ be damned, soul, and while RayMooHawk is an undeniably good artist I feel like his new monster sprites, as well as the newer monster and gun sounds have taken away that soul.

It's so weird to explain but back when it was, essentially, a doom clone, the game felt more unique than it does now. Does that make sense, or am I just a nostalgiafag?

>>5592246
And I completely agree with you. Talented modders shouldn't be expected to do shit for free. The problem is the post is either bait or a retard and when you reply to either, you destroy the thread for everyone else.

>>5592246
We shouldn't be arguing about that because the guy making this posts obviously has a head full of marbles
Instead we should ignore and not feed

>>5592250
Isn't that why you have a job?

>>5592058
i liked quake's 2nd episode and i think that's all him

>>5592198
>This entitles them to payment why?
If we assume it's all original content and it doesn't infringe on someone else's, because he fucking feels like it?

Lots of people make content for free, for the fun of it, but some people would also like to make money from it, and they are entitled to try. If nobody buys it, it fails in the market, if people dl buy it, it's probably worth something after all.

>>5592190
did ken relicense the build code

>>5592246
I literally landed me a job off the back of mine and what I learned in the process, it's bollocks to expect anybody to stay doing everything for free forever.

Personally I don't like the idea of paid mods, especially not upfront paid mods, were I still modding today I'd rather use some sort of tip jar style system and I'd stay away from subscription shit or paying up front for my work.

okay let's end the fucking debate

if a modder takes something that was free or uses other people's free content and expects money for it, that's gay

if a modder makes something from scratch for free, that's cool

if they ask payment for it, that's also cool.

If they change it down the line to ask for payment after it was free, that's gay.

If they charge to add extra polish and make it better but still leave a free version, that's cool.

Fuck you, shut up, talk about something other than your faggot moral debates. Modders are cool talented dudes (besides Doomguy2000, Sarais, that Doom 4 remake nobody, Mark, and so on) and while I'm not saying you should suck their dick, I am saying that they have every right to be paid for their work because they typically put out good work. Fuck you all.

>>5592264
>If we assume it's all original content and it doesn't infringe on someone else's, because he fucking feels like it?
Please read >>5592162, we're not talking about full games with entirely new assets and content. Nobody thinks that those are in the same category as regular mods, at least nobody who isn't retarded.
>Lots of people make content for free, for the fun of it
With a nice patreon link that they shill at every opportunity, at least these days.
>but some people would also like to make money from it, and they are entitled to try
And I'm entitled to tell them they're the cancer that's killing the modding community and explain exactly why, yes.
>If nobody buys it, it fails in the market
Then they stop making it because they have no passion, yes.
>if people dl buy it, it's probably worth something after all
Judging the worth of something by it's monetary value is hilariously pathetic.

>>5592276
>if they ask payment for it, that's also cool
Not for that commie fuck.

>>5592140
>getting this mad at me over nothing

>>5592253
I feel that it's suffered from what quite a few free software projects suffer from, which is making efforts to move away from the thing they're inspired by, while realizing they're never going to be that thing so they don't really try to compete on some levels.

The older ones did feel like they had a little more to them, which kind of tempts me to dig through my archives to put together a kind of merged version of the best bits.

>>5592281
>if you disagree with me you're a commie
Hoho, we're reaching peak butthurt now. P.S. I'm not even remotely a commie.

>>5592276
>if a modder takes something that was free or uses other people's free content and expects money for it, that's gay
Technically fine if it's GPL, as has been mentioned in this thread, you could edit Freedoom and sell it, and there's nothing illegal or wrong about it.

>>5592281
Let's just ignore the 17 year old hippie socialist, and talk about shooters.

>>5592276
>>5592140
Fuck off with your reddit spacing

I've played Quake, Dissolution Of Eternity, Scourge Of Armagon, and Dimensions Of The Past, and I have my sights set on Arcane Dimensions, but are there any more episodes or packs?

>>5592331
quaddicted.com

Noticed two weird things with this build of MetaDoom i have
>If Cacos and perhaps Barons get crushed deaths, red blood still comes out
>Holograms aren't affected by sectors they're on going up, causing them to go through said sector (similar to what happened with the gibs)

>>5592025
>i've been found out!
>>5592102
congratulations, you're literally just as bad

>>5592253
> The problem is the post is either bait or a retard and when you reply to either, you destroy the thread for everyone else.

Don't even DARE speak the truth like that!

>>5592281

>>5592276
>okay let's end the fucking debate
you can do this with ONE simple trick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc_LIR5ExIU

All mods should be paid. That way you can pirate them and then all mods are free

>>5592382
impeccable logic

What happened to Bobby Prince?
Last i heard, he was in an interview show called "composers play" but he was also diagnosed with cancer

>>5592394
He got some cancer, crowdfunded some money for treatment, and it seems that he got better. His family said the treatment worked and the cancer was in remission.

He did an interview a while back about Doom's music.

>Modding has never been, not before the advent of shit like patreon and e-begging, a for-profit activity.

Doom had commercial mods.
Half-Life had commercial mods.
Unreal Tournament had Commercial mods.

And in regards to hedon, it uses its own IWAD, so calling it a Doom mod is like calling Medal of Honor a Quake 3 mod.

>>5591806
>which he is purging right now to try and hid his degeneracy.

https://www.furaffinity.net/gallery/yuffaart/

You have a very strange definition of purging, friendo.

>people ITT defending paid mods

Shut the fuck up. Get the fuck out. Do not return.

Cocksuckers.

>>5592137
Does he even still post?

>>5592230
Nah, just own it.

>>5592429
>reply without quoting over an hour later
Wew lad you sure wanted to hear something besides your own voice.

>>5592441
>I failed to click on a link so I must be narcissistic

okay faggot

>>5592432
>Defending paying for Doom 2
>Defending paying for TNT
>Defending paying for Plutonia
>Defending paying for Heretic
>Defending paying for Hexen
>Defending paying for Strife

>>5592451
>narcissistic
Who said that? Not me.

>>5592432
let them do their thing and us sane people forget about it.

>>5592456
>uses phrases he doesn't understand the meaning of

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/likes+the+sound+of+his+own+voice

>>5592432

>>5592451
>TNT
>Plutonia
I take it you don't know much about the community reaction to those at the time.

>>5592467
>has to Google phrases to know what they mean
Seems like you're reading too much into this mister autist.