/vr/ - Retro Games

>GBA modchips
Why on earth would you buy a modchip for GBA? Just get a goddamn flashcart.

All you need is an AGS-101 replacement screen and the adapter for your gba revision. And a flashcart. That's it. Anything else is unnecessary.

>>5572157
I got the voltage regulator and backlight controller so I use the screen to its fullest potential.
>>5572153
I'll get one, the chips are for the screen.

>>5572145
GBA ISNT RETRO

REEEEEEEEE

>>5572168
I'm a '93 fag, got a gba because it's backwards compatible with the classic systems primarily, so I don't have to get each.
I love the pocket tbqh. Might get a junker and fix it if I don't fuck it up. Got a yellow case and white buttons off Ali so I don't butcher ther original case.

>>5572145
RIP Gameboys. Well folks, our systems are about to get more rare by a few dead gameboys.

I personally bought a biverted DMG recently.
Fuck all of y'all, I want to use the original hardware but I need a good light

>>5572228
rare how? I'm reusing every component except the shell and screen?

>>5572264
could have done it on your own. The film is the only fiddly part.

>>5572228
>dead gameboys.
Do they die? My old grey brick is still kicking as day 1.

>>5572273
Meaning you are taking a few more original stock gameboys out of circulation. No big deal, I bivert ed and backlit the two I owned because fuck playing with no backlight on a DMG.

>>5572289
I'm using a repro shell, a standalone motherboard, and an AGS 101 repro screen.
I'm not cannibalizing a unit.

>>5572280
Killed mine taking the film of the back of the screen, dont think you can fix it either

Play Return of Samus

Even though it is still in black and white, a color version would be nice, they cancelled it

>>5572385
>Even though it is still in black and white, a color version would be nice, they cancelled it
there are like five color-hacks on rhdn.

>>5572145
>gba and some modchips
>have no idea what the fuck I'm doing
Understatement of the year

>>5572273
Every time someone destroys one because they have no idea what the fuck they're doing they get a little more rare

>>5574121
I'm not retarded, it's a dozen solder points altogether. They sell for $15-30 off JAPAN4YOU, and again, I'm not cannibalizing a unit, but a salvaged pcb with an aftermarket shell.

Why do zoomers love vandalising Game Boys so much?

>>5574884
because they're useless garbage out the box

>>5574927
Buy a clone or emulation device then if they're so shit.

>>5575146
no.

>>5574884
because kids these days don't have a lamp beside their couch

>>5574197
>I'm not retarded
>lying on the internet

>>5575993
>soldering is hard

>>5574197
>it's a dozen solder points altogether
so?

>>5572145
The internet can teach you quickly.

>>5576986
>readingcomprehension is hard
Apparently. But understanding why you keep going on about soldering isn't.

>>5572145
Practice. Go to goodwill, buy a clock radio or something with a lot of caps and practice soldering and desoldering.

You can get a decent iron kid on amazon for $20.

>Let the iron heat up for a bit
>Put a tiny bit of flux on the board
>touch a bit of solder to the tip of the iron
>apply the solder to the tip of the wire and then the spot on the board where its supposed to go
>touch the wire to the board where it needs to be
>apply the iron to the board and wire until the solder joins


Easy peasy. If an ingrate like me can figure it out so can you. There have got to be a million videos on how to do this right. Go look them up

I am backlighting a GBC now. Probably will put it in an aluminum shell.

Got a freckle shack too, but I am waiting on a replacement board.

>>5572162

Voltage regulator and brightness controller are more trouble than they are worth on the GBA. You wont notice a difference unless it is side by side.

And even if you do need one, the Aurora adapter is much easier to use.

>>5572382

It is pretty hard to mess up. Sure the ribbon cable is the weak point, but it can take a lot of abuse.

What did you do?

>>5578627

Quite often the GBA can be done without soldering. Only rarely is the adapter cable actually needed.

>>5572145

Custom GBA is pretty fun.

>>5579709
hot

>>5579236
boxypixel shells are very nice. Might get one as well when I finish.
Ordered a yellow vivigame shell and some white buttons.
Originally I wanted a Toys R Us blue or Target grape, but they don't reproduce these.

>>5572681
Is there one on BHDN?

>>5574884
No nostalgia for what were considered annoyances at the time addling their common sense.

>>5579902
If they had common sense and lacked nostalgia then they'd buy a modern device that already had a good screen.

>>5579993
such as?

>>5580043
Some chink handheld or a PSP or something.

>>5580063
I'd rather not, thanks.

>>5580107
Why not? It's not like they're going to look worse than the chink replacement screens people put in Game Boys.

>>5580126
because I want actual hardware. If I muck it up it's on me, and replacement PCBs are cheap.

>>5580128
>MUH ACKTUAL HERDWERE
Just use your Android phone. Although you are probably too stupid to get that working and would claim it is laggy or some made up shit.

>>5580136
nah fuck off, nerd. You use shitty phones for games.

>>5580128
Get a GB Boy Colour then.

>>5580148
no, dude.

>>5579709
Spoopy

>>5579774

I actually have a purple Boxy shell already. Was thinking of a gold or red one for this thing though.

That or getting a custom Uv printed shell like >>5579709

>>5581248
I got a shell of Ali, and it has a few blemishes.
Battery cover is fiddly, too.

golf for gb is based

>>5576986
Well, when you don’t have much skill an accidentally bite off more than you can chew

>>5582430
the only fiddly part to install on a gba is an accelerator if you don't have a heat gun.
Even then, all it takes is an iota of brain to remove it if you go about it thoroughly. Add some new low temp soldern, flux, pry a spudger or an exacto knife underneath, then just dot the connections you want to remove, carefully.

>>5582448
In practice I think the problem is I have unsteady hands.

>>5582468
tweezers and tape. Always pre-solder the wire and the connection.

>>5582430

Rosin-core 60-40 solder is what you want. None of that lead free trash.

Also helps to keep the temps high.

>>5582430
Are you talking about the person who designed that mod or the one who installed it? Both are pretty cringey.

>>5582890
I dunno, it’s pretty cool how the double inversion really does improve contrast
I’m sure there’s a scientific reason why it works that way

>>5582986
A biverted display looks great but that mod looks like shit and is technically retarded. It's what you get when someone copies some random old design without having the slightest clue of how it works or how to implement it. Just the fact that he uses a hex inverter there will have anyone with even a basic understanding of electronics shaking their head, doing a face palm or saying yikes. Depending on their age.

>>5583127
At least you don’t have to wire it all in manually anymore

>>5583127
so how would your revision look like?

>>5582986
As far as I can figure out, biversion increases contrast for two reasons.
-ghosting is at its strongest when the GB is displaying black images on a white background. By digitally flipping blacks to whites, ghosting is generally reduced. Ghosting is also obvious when you turn an unmodded screen's contrast up until pixels are very opaque. A biverted screen on the other hand is more clear when you turn the contrast wheel the other way towards transparency (with a flipped polzarizer, turning the contrast wheel towards transparency makes the display darker because the background is black).
-By flipping the back polarizer, the transparent (background) color flips from white to black. The black background draws a black border around every single pixel, which makes it easier to pick out individual pixels in sprites.
>>5583127
One of my favorite 4chan cliches- to criticize, insult, and demean the ideas of others without sharing ideas or solutions of their own. Do you actually have a better solution or are you just having a bad day?

>>5583127
I made the previous post, just wanted to clarify that I am sincerely interested in hearing your improved idea for biversion if you have one. I'm not interested in shit flinging

>>5579236
I haven't been able to find the answer anywhere, but is the freckleshack the same resolution as the original gbc screen, or is it integer scaled?

>>5584241

Same resolution but smaller pixels, so the size is a tad smaller.

>>5584797
To be fair, that also happens with a 101 mod

>>5585378

Yea, the 101 mod and freckle shack are actually pretty much identical in size. They can use the same lenses even. Pic related.

FS is a better performing screen though, biggest points being better refresh rate (no ghosting) and better visibility in sunlight.

>>5585420
are you esotericsean or some shit?
Your shit's impressive.

>>5585443

lol no, I wish.

Though I actually ordered a game boy color from esotericsean back before FS was announced. Still waiting on it though.

>>5585462
since you seem like a knowledgeable guy, where do you think is best to shop for loose gameboy carts?
I saw some site called Lukiegames where all orders above $25 are shipped for free, but they sure scalp them.
I was thinking about maybe ordering lots off eBay once a week.

>>5585479

No clue, I am more into flashable carts.

Ebay and gamestop would be where I’d look first though.

>>5585575
What's the status on reflashable carts? Any particular cheap repros that are suitable? Mostly interested in GB/C but GBA info is appreciated as well.

>>5585587
get a legit everdrive. It's worth the money.
Everdrive GB X7 supports all GB/C games and RTC.

>>5585595
Not what I'm looking for. I just want a few cheap carts I can flash with a super cheap diy programmer

>>5585587

Japanese Gold/Silver ($2) and a frashable ram chip ($10)from JRodrigo for mbc3/rtc carts is the easiest.

A GB X7 is nice, but it is kind of a pain. Doesn’t copy saves to the microSD until you load up another rom, and it uses .srm instead of .sav which means you sometimes have to trim saves with a hex editor to flash them to a real cart.

>>5585615
Was thinking more bootleg carts. Is that even particularly usable except for playing pokemon?

>>5585615
>frashable ram chip
lol
>$10
double lol

>>5585615
get an elcheaposd then

>>5583189
People actually sell chips with wires already soldered to them so not a real improvement

>>5583205
Which one? I've done things similar to other "mini" biverts and things on flexible PCBs that basically add another layer to the main board. What I've never done is design one with a hex inverter. I'm just incapable of being that retarded.

>>5583463
>waaaaaah
One of my favorite 4chan cliches. The ignorant zoomer who white knights for stupid because it's less stupid than him

>>5583537
I don't have an "improved idea for biversion". I just don't design bivert mods (or anything) using the wrong part and limit my self to thick rectangular PCBs. HHL realized they were retarded and switched to a dual inverter and a better shaped PCB with castellated holes for their pocket version. I guess people here just aren't aware of that? I don't see any other explanation for this epidemic of the vapours.

>>5579709
nice

>>5585378
gotta get that taobao LCD

>>5582468
yeah probably nothing to do with using a fucking huge ass soldering iron from harbor freight lol

>>5586639
freckle shack is the best GBC option.
The chink display is great but it requires shell trimming.

>>5586660
all screen mods require shell trimming if that's going to be your argument.

>>5586672
it's just overpriced and fiddly is what I'm saying.
The aspect ratio and resolution are great for both gbc and gba, but the latter is even more jank because the screen needs to align erry tiem and refreshes horizontally.

>>5586645
It’s not huge, it’s just in the foreground

>>5586685
if you say so. I have one and I've had no issues with it. I also have the GBA version and that's been great too. They're both worth the money IMO.

>>5586713
I ordered an ags 101 off Ali. Might get a boxy pixel shell for shits and giggles later down the line

>>5586779
if you mean an AGS-101 for a GBC, yeah the boxypixel shell is fucking mint and as far as I'm concerned the best way to jam one of those screens in a GBC but the freckleshack backlight method is still significantly better. If you mean the AGS-101 GBA mod, well, personally, I don't like the feel of the aluminum GBA shell. It's alright, but an OEM shell is significantly better feeling. The fitment on the GBA version seems a bit off too.

>>5586174

It is a 2mb ram chip and a custom adapter.

4mb chips are stupid expensive some reason ($10 for the memory alone).

>>5585939

The bootlegs are hit and miss. Some can actually be reflashed rather easily.

The biggest issue is that you don’t know what bootleg board you are getting until it arrives.

As for games other than pokemon, you can stick flashable ram in mbc5 carts too, they just aren’t as common outside of Shantae and similar rare games(everyone wants to use pokemon carts for romhacks).

>>5586204

A good choice, but no RTC.

>>5586639

It is like twice as much as the FS.

Plus BennVenn is working on an OLED replacement now too.

>>5583537

What he means is that wiring a chip up like that is pretty inefficient. There are completely wire free versions out there now. You just line them up and solder them down.

>>5587529
You're confused as fuck kid. It's not RAM. I pay about 5 bucks for the 4MB chips.

>>5587906

My phone autocorrected, you knew what I meant.

Link to $5 chips please.

>>5588007
>my phone autocorrected from "flash" to "ram". Twice.
You're not fooling anyone kiddo

>>5588796

rom to ram.

It replaces the rom chip, so thats what you call it.

Why are you so mad about this? You knew what I meant.

when it comes to case mods(either for color, graphics, or whatever else that does not alter the system itself), what are some that you actually like and would buy?

>>5590027
boxy pixel

>>5572168
its 2019! stop moving the goal post

>>5588913
It's not a ROM chip either. That might be what (You) call it but that's because you don't know what you're talking about. Correcting an ignorant child isn't being "mad". All those "mad" adults at your school, they're called teachers.

>>5590776

It is a rom chip though. It is flash memory used to replace the rom chip.

>>5591148
lol. You already proved you're the most retarded person ITT. Now you're just showing off.

>>5591148
ROM = Read Only Memory. If you can flash a new "ROM" to it whenever you want, it's not a "ROM" chip.

>>5590202
>case mod that require resoldering and rewiring of some internal comonents
yeah, totally not altering the system itself like i asked

I've been looking for GBAs in my country and prices are bananas.
Then looking for screens on Ali I saw the already modded backlit ones and realized it would be cheaper to get one of those than getting the screen online and the console locally.

Are these reliable? Made with gutter oil? Will I get lead poisoning? I really can't trust the chinese nowadays

>>5572168
>plays GB and GBC games
Retro.

>>5572228
Anon, there are more Gameboys in the world than the amount of cocks you've sucked, amazingly enough.
We're gonna be fine.

>>5572282
The screens can wear out, as can capacitors.
The batteries in games with battery saves can also run dry.
Capacitors and batteries are easy and cheap to replace, however, I couldn't tell you about replacing screens, but I assume that can be done too.

>>5578627
This. Also don't use tin solder, it's shit, proper solder is much better. Leave a window open and wash your hands when you're done, if you're paranoid about lead, use a face mask and take a shower afterwards.

>>5585479
i used lukie games in like 2008 lol

>>5591374

Hit or miss. They use real motherboards, but everything else is third party. I have heard of some instances of fucked up mobos, but they are for the most part okay.

It wouldn’t hurt to order some new button membranes while you are at it, though. They are almost always terrible, especially the dpad. The cardboard trick helps, but you are better off just replacing them.

Rather than harvest real gameboys for this meme shit why has no one made an after market motherboard yet? You can get every other part after market so we might as well just have complete kitset gameboys by now.

How card can it be to make a PCB will all the original connectors but uses a modern ARM CPU or something with a slim emulation layer to boot GB code?

I don't care how many were made, harvesting them is dumb and only accelerates how fast they will die off and how high prices will get.

>>5594183
>emulation
fuck off

>>5594195
I bet you would not be able to tell that it was a different CPU/FPGA interpreting the code on such a system.
I'm not talking about your typical emulator, I'm talking about a dedicated device made to replicate only unreproducible parts.

Those GB-Boy clones were ~70% of the way there, bit were too chinked to be a real option. A shame really.

>>5582430
This is 100% salvageable. Use good solder wick with Flux in it or squirted on. As anon said, leaded solder only. Once you remove the old, actually bend the metal til it touches the pcb. Solder doesn't fill gaps, it only sticks already touching metal together through capillary action.

Also, don't be dumb and remember to practice declsoldering on junk electronics before you do it on the gb.

If you have a cheap iron, it's not getting hot enough. Buy more wattage.

>>5572145
we need to start auto-banning anyone that mentions gba in an opening post

>>5594183
They do. I think it's benn venn that sells them. Pre backlit, modern screen, modern components. Downside is only white ked without modding, and $60 or so.

>>5593278
>Hit or miss.
I guess they never miss.

>>5582430
The horror...

>>5594248

It is only a DMG frontboard, still no replacement for the back. Though backs don’t often fail.

>>5594183

Too much work for too little profit. Maybe in the future as prices for DMGs increase.

As it stands, most of the mods actually add value.

>>5594183
It doesn't fucking matter, there's not enough people butchering them, and anyone who seriously cares has at least one unit already.

It's like crying about someone putting a Mosin Nagant in a sporter stock, except more retarded.

>>5594227
Guess they never replied to your submission, huh? It plays retro games, in that capacity and on that subject it's retro, just like emulating on a Wii or a port on a post 1999 system.

>>5594207
This, a man needs a big iron on his hip to properly solder and desolder.

RIP my fucking GBP

there's no replacement screens that aren't just OEM are there

>>5596140
>RIP my fucking human race
>
>kids are too retarded to change the batteries let alone fix the screen

>>5593024
I sold a game on ebay last month and lukie games was the winner of the auction. It's weird because i don't think they'll make much off what was sold

>>5596146
it isn't the polarizing filter if that's what you mean, I already replaced that. the LCD is burned.

>>5572282
not in any way that's unfixable. Mostly baadcaps and borked screens.

>>5596226
get a replacement backlit one.

>>5594202
feel free to make one then. I'll gladly beta test your work.

>>5596226
replace both polarizers, not just the one.

>>5596140

Looks like a burnt polarizer. Just replace them both and backlight it.

>>5596226
Are you retarded?