/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5571839
Just looking at that reminds me that I'm shit at that game.

>>5571848
How so? In terms of building a functioning city or building a beautiful one?

>>5571850
I can build a functioning one pretty easily but it always ends up looking like utilitarian commie blocks on a grid.

>>5571852
You just gotta mix it up.
Make a few irregular shaped streets. Make dedicated 2x2 or 2x1 building areas, so the commie blocks won't even spawn.
Add small parks every other area.
Mix up buisness and residence, especially 1x1 medium and high density buisness slots can make your city look classy.

>>5571839
... building cities, duh.
What mods, OP?

>>5571868
Currently none, besides NAM.
I'm just taking pics off the internet at this point.

But I am hoping to get a certain somebody to appear here who compiled a big ass modpack for Sim City 4.

>>5571839
Daily reminder that playing for population with the money cheat on SNES Simcity is peak comfy gaming.

I wish someone smarter than me made a SNES mouse hack.

>>5571839
Are they any good city builders that are straight forward with minimal micormanagement?

simcity 4 is pretty good, but there's a fair bit of micromanagement. At least in SC4 there's a good interface and the micromanagement makes sense.

But I want something even more simple, more light weight, even to the point of an incremental game. But I don't want it to be broken.

>>5571852
>looking like utilitarian commie blocks on a grid.
I'm not sure you understand the concept of those neighbourhoods. Nor ever really saw one in your life, but it's too early to call you stupid Yank.
Personally, I always find it hilarious how people try to escape "drab commie blocks" and then live in a developer-build American-style suburbs full of identical homes, one after another, with zero public transportation, services of any kind or even a grocery store, because they weren't included in the local development plan nor there is place to put them at all. But I guess having to go everywhere in your car is the most American thing imaginable and idiots dig that.
>inb4 commie blocks suck ass too
I never said they didn't. I'm just pointing out there is a fuckload of benefits to them and if you aren't a complete moron, you invest your pocket change into noise-dampering mats and and you can have a comfortable flat in area that had actual planning put into it, rather than just "buy cheap agrarian land, re-spec it for construction and shit out god-awful samey neighbourhood with nothing but houses there".

>>5571887
Pre-concrete slab commie blocks are peak comfy. They too have their own issues, but due to much smaller cubature, you can manage with even the shittiest neighbours with ease. And they have some lovely architecture design and concepts inside, rather than "cram as many people per square meter as feasible without feeling overcrowded".

>>5571872
>No roads
>Train tracks run to your door, but there's only one train servicing the entire city
>If anybody tries to build a school, hospital, or church, the city authorities tear it down
>One fire department in the whole city and it's closed due to lack of funding
>Next-door-neighbour starts a fire
>City authority bulldozes the entire block to prevent it from spreading

Comfy game but the city you build for peak population is pure dystopia

Oldshoes modpack where?

>>5572002
Here:
https://www116.zippyshare.com/v/mUmKEMPw/file.html

>>5571839
I really hate the view in SC4, it's like isometric but on a slightly curved angle making it feel unnatural.

niggers don't build cities, op, they destroy them

the simcity games should have included a bunch of black people moving into the city as one of the natural disasters. significanlty increased crime rate, lower property value, constant riots, etc

>>5572043
>>5572048
>>>/pol/

>>5572034
>403 forbidden
Neat.

>>5572052
>>>reddit

>>5572056
Sup, Britbong. How does it feel living in a country where internet is forbidden and government is so inept they can't leave EU for 3 years?

>>5572061
Feels pretty Germany mate

>>5572056
>2019
>Still not using VPN
I bet you think you live in a free country, too

>>5571923
Oh I agree totally it would be he'll to live in that place lol. I should have mentioned I do this on random maps instead of the usual most land area maps that everyone suggests. Also I build roads in "rural" or wealthy areas like islands. I know it's not peak efficiency but it adds a lot of charm to the maps.

Building on islands, shorelines, preserving "national park systems aka forests" is what adds charm to the maps.

>>5571848
My cities come out looking like a three year old tried to draw a city with a crayon. In my mind it looks good before I actually try to do it.

It's not difficult to build a city.
Just bee urself.

>>5572052
Remember anon, 13% = 50%

>>5572397
Do you ever see thinly veiled threads dedicated to the most efficient railway set-up in SimCity 3k on /pol/?
No? Then what the FUCK are you doing here? Stick to your fucking hugbox.

Anyone willing to run a shared region on Dropbox?

>>5572397
Interesting that /pol/ makes up 13% of 4chan's traffic yet makes up 50% of the shitposting.

pic related is how I learned to make my cities look better

>>5571839
building cities

>>5572558
>get out of my hugbox

>>5572908
Your pic related, along with few other guides, is how I learned I don't really care about "good looks", but I want efficiency instead

>>5572916
If I have my hugbox and you have yours, what the hell you are doing in mine? Because you are definitely NOT discussing SimCity, which is what this thread is about, while the entire board is about old video games. Then there is the fact I'm not even American, but have to endure your never-ending racial issues on day-to-day basis by proxy, rent fucking free, just because you fuckers won't shut the fuck up about it. Do you think I enjoy it? Or find it entertaining? Or do you fucking jack-off to the fact I'm getting pissed, because I can't even talk vidya without bumping on one of you cunts?

Is it cheating to use the black hole waste disposal facility?

I wish I were good at Sim City 4. Even when I try not to focus on the aesthetics of my city things still go to shit, I can't wrap my head around city builders whatsoever.
Except for the newest Sim City anyways, but the city space in that was so small that just as things got good I had already filled up the map.

>>5573651
Have you tried setting up Gridville, then leave to make a coffee or preferably a dinner and take a walk, then return to the game (which was running on fast-forward) and using funds generated by your shitty tiny town, building large city instead.
Alternatively, carefully plan ahead. This IS a game that heavily depends on planning. Maybe not as much as Cities: Skylines, but still.

>>5573050
The original post of this chain was discussing SimCity. Take your meds

>>5572063
and then rance fucked them all and brainwashed them to love his dick.

>>5573769
The original post was about how anon must declare any given chance he's a /pol/tard and can't control himself about it

It's not over yet, Snake!

>>5573750
>Cities: Skylines
>Planning
More like "shitty unlocking mechanics" than actual planning.

>>5577403
you can have everything unlocked at start

>>5577859
How?

>>5578330

Not gotta lie, I don't give a fuck about making pretty cities in SC4. I just make ultracircles of wealth generation for maximum population and money. You know you're doing mass transit right when your bus system actually generates a good profit.

Anyone else cheat garbage by running a single incinerator at absolute minimal funding? I figure if I can still keep air and water ultra-clean, it's not that big of an issue.

>>5578370
Original anon here and nice knowing this is finally added as a game option. Because when I still bothered with the game, you had to either file-edit it or mod it (which was essentially pre-packed file-edit anyway).
Still won't return to the game, as it has too many flaws and they still didn't fix the way how traffic operates, despite literally incorporating mods into the core mechanics and still fucking failing to do it right

>>5578448
>You know you're doing mass transit right when your bus system actually generates a good profit.
Quite impossible without the mod allowing you to put bus stations on road tile, rather than taking out a non-road tile.

As for pollution, have you tried placing your dirty stuff in corners? Since pollution spreads in circles, this cuts out 3 directions entirely. This means you have less overall pollution (since 3/4 of it doesn't exists) AND the reminder of it is all concentrated in single spot, far away from people.

My roller coasters. Let me show you them.

My erections. Let me show you them.

why is this on /vr/

>>5572558
>redditor calling anyone furfags / stormfags
kek
rent free nigger

>>5580493
... because it's a city-building thread?

>>5580493
Because these are retro video games and this is the retro video game board. What were you thinking when you asked?

>>5580805
>pic related
Why did I never thought about that?

>>5580827
Because the more intuitive way of doing it is to put housing lots inside and services on the outside. Which is how it works in Caesar, Zeus and especially Emperor best.
Pharaoh is the weird one in the lot.

>>5580827
Try to imagine my face when I found this out after playing the game for over a decade and beating it few times, always struggling with the later missions, where you need gorillion of people.

I always had the most fun playing scenarios that challenged me. Playing freeform is cool and all but scenarios give you the kick to really get creative.

>>5580493
Because there are numerous retro city building games and sims. And a bunch of other construction/management sims.
Sim City and Rollercoaster Tycoon are some famous series, but there's lots more.

>>5571839
r8

>>5571839
not even a city builder but that pic really makes me want to replay simfarm

>>5573059
Yes? You can pay a neighbouring city to take your trash instead. Although the mod building that pushes trash off the edge of the map is funny. I haven't seen a black hole building.
>>5573651
Think of it like running a business. Land is free. Low density requires least services. Fill up the map with low density. Provide services only when asked for and be conservative with them. Think of it as raising land value in areas for the sole purpose of getting more property tax revenue. Zone up with care.

>>5571839
Reminder that SimCity is a solved game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTJQTc-TqpU

>go into debt
>get army base
>advisors up my ass about sudden increase in crime and pollution
>point to area around the base which isn't even occupied by anything and not the base itself

I haven't been here in a year. What happened to /vr/ct or the general tycoon/city building thread? Is there something in /vg/ now?

>>5571839
>>5571850
>>5571857
>>5571869
>>5572216
>>5572908
>>5578370
>>5581586
not retro gtfo

>>5583634
I got rangebanned on /v/, been about 2 months now
I literally dindu nuffin

>>5572558
>"we"
>he doesn't know stormfront are feds
I love newfriends
my "fursecution" is having rapey arabs who don't belong shipped into my town.

>>5582407
Mods implemented some auto-sage thing specifically for /vr/, so any thread that is a week old now will stop bumping, regardless of activity.

So now, the slow, but nice and mellow threads such as the Builder/Sim/Manager threads (which mind you, were already crammed together because individual generals for those were already too slow to survive naturally on /vr/), can't really exist efficiently on this board anymore.
Aren't you glad the mods are here to do nothing about endless shitposting and bait threads, and then implementing measures like these which actually kills real discussion?

>>5584076
>mfw

Is there a general/any active presence for RCT anywhere on this shitpile of a website nowadays?

>>5584136
nope

Trying to start Simcity 2000. But since I'm /n/, I'm trying to figure out how much the public transportation works, e.g. sim trips using multiple different methods. Surprisingly, road trip + rail trip works. I'm afraid anything beyond that does not work.
My method was to build a road and rail network, then zone industry on one end, then zone residential closer and closer until both developed.
I'll have to do more tests.
It seems the rail station has no maintenance cost? That might make rail-only city more viable than Simcity 3000 and Simcity 4.
Actually, I just remembered that the manual said that the simulation does a trip on the road and if it encounters public transportation, it attempts it 50% of the time. That means 50% of the trips would fail on a pure rail city. It might kind of work, but it won't be a healthy city. Oh well. That also explains the many abandoned buildings I saw in my test.
But my finding is good news in a way, since rail can be used to relieve and support arterial routes. Sims can ride their cars to and from the stations. I think it's not possible in sc3k, but it's been more than a decade since I played that game.

>>5571839

>>5581627
This and Simtower are my favorites.

>>5571839
>want to play simcity 4
>the thought of having to download 10,000 mods is too daunting
>goes back to just browing /vr/

>>5587763
same spot i'm at anon...I would love to spend hours autistically building a shitty ass city that barely functions but the mods and setting it up and hdd space it'll take up (limited hdd space sadly). so I just kinda sit and hope people post more pics of stuff they built.

Why were the SimCity 3000 advisors so based and comfy? Are there any building/tycoon/god/business games outside of SimCity where you get a team of advisors who have their own backstories and personalities?

>>5587843
Civilization, kind of? Civilization 2 has live action footage of the advisors.

>>5587763
>>5587793
In this very thread there is a link to OldShoe's modpack. Or you can just go straight to his page for it.

>>5589484
Shit, sorry for keeping my /qst/ tripfaggotry. Anyway:
https://www116.zippyshare.com/v/mUmKEMPw/file.html
If you are getting error, it means your country blocks zippy and you need to use VPN