/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5566765
Use your TV to force 4:3

>>5566765
Force 4:3 you brainlet.

I bet your tv also isn't in game mode and has interpolation turned on lol

Idiot

>>5566779
>>5566780
I fucking can't. All it does is "Full Mode" and 1:1. Where the latter is shit because it draws a tiny box in the middle.

>>5566820
Seems like it's a problem with your TV friend.

>>5566820
Get a good TV, then.

>>5566820
What model? I haven't seen an HD display without that function.

>>5566826
it's a 4k sylvannia TV (SLED5550). For something so highly tolerant of the weird signals ossc gives out, it's a fucking shame I can't get 4:3 working when line doubling 480.

>>5566831
Have you tried pressing the "aspect" button on the remote control?

>>5566836
that's what I was talking about when I said "Full" and "1:1." Those are the only options I have. Full gives off the widescreen mode and 1:1 is shit.

>>5566840
Have you tried Menu - Picture - Advanced Settings?

>>5566848
Under Picture - Advance Settings I see:
"HDMI mode" which shows video mode.

I did try "Graphic Mode" but this still only gives me a Full 100% or Point to Point aspect ratio options.

>>5566873
Maybe Sylvania is just shit

>>5566887
when I do 480p passthrough I get the cinema/wide/normal/etc options. yeah maybe it's shit but I spent next to fucking nothing on it. If it's not an ossc problem then I'll just upgrade my TV

I'm afraid your tv is shit. Try a cheap 4K LG. Can confirm 4:3, 16:9, native, and zoom.

My last TV was a sylvania and it sucked ass. It would chop off a certain amount of the screen regardless of the (extremely sparse) settings.

>>5566929
no overscan toggle?

you're a fucking brainlet OP. Don't blame OSSC for your low IQ

>>5566898
Ignoring what everyone else said. I have not seen this issue on several other sets myself (I think I have tested my XRGB 3, XRGBMini, OSSC on over 50 sets since I got my OSSC). Sounds like the tv is treating the signal as a EDTV no matter what (common on shitty sets with older hardware that wasn't tested much for the current panel)

Get a TCL. They are chink, but have incredibly low delay and gtg (the s40, s42, s51 and newer). Sometimes the backlight isn't bright enough or the blacks are not dark/even enough for some people, but for like $250-400 for a huge ass tv, with great specs overall and a truckload of features... you can't complain. I would in fact say that if they keep this up for another 4-5 years, they will be the next Vizio. (Gaining market and selling sets at the same price as Sony/Samsung/LG which is what Vizio did after 5-8 years of being the go to cheap alternative.)

Only real downside is they seem to be ignorant to the fact 1080p @ 120hz is something people want. Some 2018 sets even have 1440p @ 120hz. But at their price I don't see how people can complain.

>>5567297
You sound like you have low standards, don't tell people what they can't complain about when really it's only you who wouldn't complain about uneven and gray blacks like it's still 2004. If this brand will only be good in a few years, maybe people should forget about them until then instead of listen to you. How else will this company learn that people consider picture quality more important than any other features if you are telling people to reward them with sales.

>>5566765

>>5566779
That would defeat the point of using a device like the OSCC.

>>5567807
*OSSC

To elaborate, the point of such devices are to allow you to use your display's native resolution and pre-scale everything, ensuring much finer control over the image.

>>5566820
>>5566840
You need to set your television to 1:1, then choose 3840x2160 through the OSSC (if it supports that resoution, I am only passingly familiar with the device). Then choose scaling options within the OSSC for that resolution.

>>5566821
Most tv's cant change aspect when input is 720p or 1080p. Only on 480p

>>5566765
Just emulate. It's free and the image quality is 10 times better. And you can select your aspect ratio in software. And it has way less input lag.

>>5566831
also, you should not be line doubling. 248p and 480p are still nowhere near your panel's native resolution. You will need a 9x integer scale before applying effects.

>>5567816
this is actually a thing? where would I choose 3840x2160 through the ossc?

>>5567838
I don't know. I don't own one nor am I familiar with its capabilities. I only know the science and the method. I use Retroarch.

>>5566765
Where the fuck can I get one of these today?

>>5567815
What? I’ve never had an HDTV that can’t change aspect ratios at any resolution.

>>5567812
So if it scales the image to 1920x1080, now you have a stretched image. Some may not care, but how’s it defeating the purpose if you made it 4:3 instead of 16;9?

>>5566848

>>5567883
It should not scale the image to 1920x1080 unless you explicitly instruct it to do so. It should default to either pillarboxing or 1:1 integer mapping.

ANY transformation done by the TV is unpredictable and is likely introducing artifacts/lag. Avoid it wherever you can unless you know specifically what the TV is doing. When you let the TV compress the image back to 4:3 what algorithm is it using? 99% of the time you don't know.

Always pre-scale to the native resolution of the panel if you can, and choose 1:1 pixel mapping under its options.

>>5566765
Retarded faggot. That’s what you deserve. Retro games weren’t meant to be displayed on flat panels.

>>5567964
Ah, I see. I’ll get my OSSC in a week or so. Good info before I make shitty options.

>>5567968
OP here. This guy gets it.

>>5568014
>>5567968
op here

i was high on ketamine when i made this thread. i took a shot of cum and found the tv remote. set my ossc to 5x line doubling and tv to 4:3 and got super sharp pixels.

>>5568438
>18th IP to enter the thread
>op here
nice try, newfag. I'm op.

>>5568438
Disgusting. Those checkerboards are meant to blend.

>>5567815
Some, not most.

>>5568920
blend my balls into a smoothie and take a sip. The only other option you have with an hdtv is a blurry picture with pixel bleeding and guess what? The checkerboards still don't blend. The OSSC is the best you can hope for in this scenario.

>>5568527
Why would you willingly admit to being a retard?

>>5568995
Dithering filters exist

>>5568995
You can emulate with shaders, looks great :-)

>>5568920
only if you spent your lifetime playing on consoles plugged trough crappy composite cables

>>5566826
My Vizio can't do it. It can stretch the image vertically, widen it, or zoom, but no 4:3
That said I also have a crt for /vr/ so I don't really care, and the HDMI devices I have that can play /vr/ output 4:3 just fine. Just saying there are probably a good number of TVs that have dropped a forced 4:3 ratio.

>>5569301
Same here. My Vizio was trash. It had no fit option, so it always overscanned, and no option to force 4:3 so I didnt play retro at all.

Dont know where Syvania fits in the hierarchy but I blew my entire tax return on a Samsung KS8000 and its everything I wanted and more. Fit to screen, force 4:3, HDR, hardly any blur, low input lag I actually prefer playing my retro consoles on it.

Basically OP if you are going to waste your life in front of a screen make it the most badass screen you can get.

tfw OSSC can't play unmoded N64's so saving up for a second hand Framememester.

>>5569271
PC games blended through a clean VGA signal, because the graphics were designed for the monitor's dot pitch. Play this on a 640 x 480 CRT and you won't see any dithering patterns.

>>5569334
You can usually find RGB modded N64s on eBay for around $100 which will give you better picture than Svideo. I'm about to list one today.

>>5569334
i run svideo from the n64 into a box that outputs vga. Thats pretty much the only way I can get an unmodded signal to the ossc and it looks like trash.

>>5569417
why are you still talking about blending in an hdtv/ossc thread

>>5569323
Maybe I'll start saving up for a KS8000 65". In hindsight, even though the sylvannia is garbage, the thing only cost me fucking $200. Not a bad price for a 55" 4K that can output line5x with zero issues.

>>5569812
not him but I have a samsung ks 55". bought it because of the low input lag. only problem I had was with snes output and had to mod it to normalize the signal hz.

>>5569828
you mean the dijtter mod? fucking yikes dude. My sylvannia blacked out with SNES as well but not all the time. I'm not going to fuck my snes up with that retarded mod.

>>5569793
Why are you talking about composite video?

>>5569830
Explain why it's bad.

>>5569952
>explain why it's bad
Nigger, the fact that you're even asking makes you fucking retarded. Consider killing yourself immediately.

>>5569952
That would require him to know what it does and how it works, which he doesn't.

>>5569474
You might as well commission somebody to install the UltraHDMI mod on your N64 at this point.

>>5569952
>>5570029
>>5569828
>dejitterfags

>>5569862
ossc doesnt take composite dude

>>5570532
>>5570029
>>5569997
>>5569952
>>5569830
dejitter mod works for me

>>5566765
The widescreen flag can be turned on and off at will by the OSSC. Sounds like your TV just ignores it and goes widescreen. Don't blame the OSSC devs when it was the lazy shits who programmed your TV firmware that fucked up.

>>5570551
just out of curiousity I popped in a snes game and the OSSC reported 60.19hz. Thing was fucking blacking out every second. I then powered it off, powered it back on and it is now reporting 60.08hz. It hasn't blanked "yet." What the fuck was up with that .19hz? Is it just a dice roll?

>>5571180
Still hasn't blanked. So the key to enjoying SNES on OSSC is to power on/off until you get 60.08hz. Anything other than that causes blanking issues. Have Dejitterfags been completely and utterly BTFO?

>>5571184
you don't even have to power the console on/off. Just cycle through inputs until it reports 60.08hz. I got 60.15hz and it blanked. Cycled through inputs until I got 60.08hz and there's absolutely zero blanking. Goddamn, I bet dejitterfags feel terrible about wasting money on a fucking useless mod. Wallow in your despair cucks.

>>5571184
>>5571180
>>5571198
this was kind of my experience with varying degrees of success. sometimes it would work but then blank out every once in a while. running 5x it always blanked.

I installed the dejitter mod and i didnt have to act like a retard on a forum. Just too bad I have a snes that comes with pixel bleeding out of the box.

>>5571210
just letting you know that you wasted your money. I've had my game running here for over 20 minutes and it still hasn't blanked, because it's running at 60.08hz. you should feel bad for yourself for being a dejittercuck

>>5570546
>>5569271

>>5571224
>>5571228
what is this new /vr/ meme?

Crtfags win again

>screen starts blacking out
>start panicing
>immediately purchase dejitter mod to """"fix"""" the issue
you poor, pathetic native bluepilled dejittercucks. If only you knew how to actually use the OSSC with an SNES

>>5571271
i dont understand this meme

>>5571291
The SNES spits out oddball refresh rates which HDTVs do not like. The result is arbitrary signal drops, being brief or indefinite. Marqs offered a fix for this called the dejitter mod, which normalizes the refresh rate of the SNES.
But no such mod is required. All that is required is to boot the SNES and ensure the reported refresh is 60.08hz. After that is ensured, your SNES experience will be completely devoid of signal drops. There is no need for a dejitter mod. As you can tell, some of the retards in this thread fell for the dejitter meme.

>>5571307
I would suggest reading through this.
https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=61285
and quit trying to act tough on a basket weaving forum over someone spending $20.

>>5571310
Nah.

>>5569830
>retarded mod.
enjoy your slighty off-spec sync with high-precision ADCs.

>>5571184
>Have Dejitterfags been completely and utterly BTFO?
try line5x

>>5571307
>The SNES
and NES

>>5566765
>buys fucking scaler apparatus
>the TV that runs on is cheaper this this apparatus
wew lad

>>5571307
what's the matter, is it too hard to install for you?

>>5566765
I wish we could get a Super OSSC or even a XRGB 4 with native 4K and FreeSync support

Mostly-unrelated OSSC question: Is there any chance for a future onscreen display in an update? I love my unit but having to move a couple feet away from the TV to slowly make adjustments on the tiny LCD never stops being annoying. Doesn’t help that the menu structure is sprawling and mostly arcane, being able to view the entire menu on the TV itself would be a game-changer in terms of usability, even if it had to blank out the video input while it displayed

I just don’t know if something like that is in the cards

>>5575256
Yes, a basic OSD is planned for a future update.

>>5573646
I wouldn't expect that until TVs that can do 4K and FreeSync are more common

>>5575268
Cool, looking forward to that

>>5573646
That would be sweet a f.