/vr/ - Retro Games

The breath of fire ports run beautifully and are a joy to play. Also the final fantasy ports for it are also worth playing.

Most are flawed, with terrible sounds and colors, or sometimes glitches. But many are still good either because of extra content (translations, levels and content the developers didn't have the chance to put the first time around) or because they are worthy remixes that stand on their own as their own game (Shining Force 1 remake, Gegege no Kitarou from PS1, Super Mario Advance 4 which has e-World, almost its own Lost Levels version of SMB3)

They don't let us discuss retro GBA games and I can't understand why.

>>5568157
Nothing on GBA is retro by board standards.

>>5568161
Ports and remakes are supposed to be allowed. Right now we have some remake threads, including a FF VII one.

Port of a Wonder Swan game.

>>5568059
It's funny how Gane Boy Advance isn't retro when ports of old games needed to be graphically downgraded for it, and not just in resolution. SNES has capabilities GBA doesn't. Nearly all the popular games for it are ports, remakes, or stylistically identical to SNES games. Superstar Saga is like Mario RPG but with worse graphics.

>>5568198
The more you cry about it, the less we’ll care.

>>5568271
That's what I want, you goober. If you don't care, you won't click the report button, and jancel won't notice. I had a GBA thread up for days because there was no image of a GBA.

>>5568061
>The breath of fire ports run beautifully and are a joy to play
If you don't mind washed out colors and shit audio. But hey you managed to shittily run a snes game. Fuck you.

>>5568198
The only thing the SNES has over the GBA is sound.

>>5568198
>Superstar Saga is like Mario RPG but with worse graphics.
you had me going for a second

>>5568317
GBA's resolution is quite a bit lower, in both dimensions, and there seems to be other limitations happening in the port of Donkey Kong Country.

>>5568198
I think GBA shouldn't be allowed, but GBA ports and remakes of retro games should be allowed.

>>5568375
What about very retro new games, like Metroid Fusion and other willyvanias?

>>5568332
SNES also gets more apparent resolution out of each pixel, at least on a CRT.

>>5568383
But Fusion isn't retro. It's a native GBA game.

>>5568059
It goes without saying that all the ports are inferior to running them on the original harware but some like ALTTP and the Mario ones feature some new content if that interests. Overall I say just play the gba's original library, it offers a ton of quality stuff.
>>5568061
BoFII still uses it's infamous translation though, that version is terrible. BoFI is okay but the snes version is still better.

>>5568318
Not him but he's right - the Superstar Saga series of games are the definition of soulless games to me

>>5568506
not me btw

>>5568161
This board is ruined by its lack of a rolling cutoff. Soon we'll have 20 year old games that "aren't retro".

>>5568674
BIG ROUND NUMBER

>>5568674
/vr/ is less about enjoying retro games and more about flaunting a superiority complex because most people here feel special for OLD GOOD NEW BAD.

>>5568175
Dawn of Souls and FFIV on GBA were also Wonderswan ports. Unfortunately the Wonderswan died and had an FF3 remake cancelled as a result.

>>5568690
I was one of those in 8th grade, and then I grew out of it. That was 2002-2003.

>>5568690
Yeah I get reminded of that everytime I read stupid shit like >>5568453.

At least 50% of ports to GBA are lazy cashgrab trash that are well below what the hardware is capable of. Mortal Kombat Advance is the most notorious example. NES Classics are mostly great games and very faithful other than the lower resolution ofc. Super Ghouls n Ghosts is a great port with a new mode that adds a bunch of stuff and removes most of the slowdown.

>>5568157
GBA is the last game system to have oldskool ROM cartridges. Starting on the DS, they went to using Flash ROMs and the game simply loaded into RAM instead of mapping directly into the CPU's address space.

>>5568157
The GBA is the last game system to have oldskool ROM cartridges. Starting on the DS, they went to using Flash ROMs and the game simply loaded into RAM instead of mapping directly into the CPU's address space. So it's arguably more retro than most of its contemporaries in terms of how the hardware works.

>>5568375
Those are already the rules

>>5568674
>>5568690
You could go LITERALLY anywhere else on the interent to talk about 2000's games, but no, you get butthurt and bring your nonstop whining to /vr/, which was made exclusively yo get away from your kind. Neck yourselves.

>>5568674
>This board is saved by its lack of a rolling cutoff.
Fixed.

>>5569787
>which was made exclusively to get away from your kind
This.

based mods.
Anyways, I wanna play the gba port of the first mystical ninja on gba since it has battery saves, does it have anything else different from the original on snes?

I used to have Garfield: The Search for Pooky. What a piece of crap shovelware.

>>5569776
Yet every single thread I created about those games were deleted.

>>5569850
It's worse in every single way other than that and GG2's character switch. The game really suffers from the smaller vertical resolution and worse sound, with programming bugs and no MP on top of that.

>>5570446
It's still useful to unlock some bonus content in the DS game (extra NPCs, Space Manbow minigame?)

;^)

Must have sold millions

Many bought a GBA just to play this game.

>>5570586
No one leaked the sequel's GBA port yet? It was supposed to include new content.

>>5570665
grorious nippon showing again its superiority

>z
>ero
who thought that was a good idea?

What's the point of this thread? You're just name dropping random GBA games with no worthwhile discussion and wasting space on the first page.

>>5568173
in what universe is your pic related a remake or port?

>>5570305
>Release WonderSwan Color
> JP: October 5, 2001
>Game Boy Advance
> NA: January 13, 2003
> EU: September 5, 2003
just being a port doesn't make it /vr/-eligible.

>>5571639
yeah we need more final fantasy threads on the first page.

>>5570568
only if you get the romhack that restores the original GBC music.

>>5568175
>>5568693
*WonderSwan Color. The Color was a new system that came out in 2000, making WSC games not retro.

>>5572571
WS could play WSC games though

>>5572596
Some are like the black cartridges for the GB, but others are WSC-only, displaying an error message when played on an original WS (eg, FFIV). That makes this trickier, but still clear: WSC(-only) games are definitely not retro (unlike GBC-only games, which premiered before the year 2000). The WonderSwan did not have the same sort of forward compatibility that the NeoGeo Pocket did, anon.

>>5572549
>original GBC music
Please be a troll, otherwise being a zoomer should be a bannable offense.

Super Mario Advance series
Doom 1&2
Final Fight One
Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo Revival
Donkey Kong Country
Sega Arcade Classics
Activision Anthology
NES Classics series
Zelda A Link to the Past
Contra Advance

>>5572624
Plenty of people played those games on their GBC back in the day, I don't see what the big deal is? They use same sound hardware.
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1981/

>>5572651
>I played SNES games on my computer, which makes them computer games

>>5572742
Technically, the Red and Blue games do have color if you play them on GBC. They're just not GBC games.

>>5572742
Pokemon Red and Blue feature super game boy enhancements which use the SNES's hardware. This makes them SNES games, now go fuck off.

>>5572797
>>5572814
Nothing you've said has provided any evidence that they are GBC games, raging morons.

>>5572843
>>5572843
Except no one called them GBC games. There's a difference between being GBC compatible, which is EVERY gameboy game. and an actual GBC game. This is what you get for making backwards compatible hardware, the GBC.

>>5572854
>no one called them GBC games
Lurk mor. See >>5572549

>>5572861
There's nothing about that comment that specifically says that. It should be rather obvious what they meant. Since there is only one game to restore the original music from, which are the Red and Blue gb games.

>>5568059
GBA is already retro, boomer

>>5572865
>>5572865
This is the last time I'm spoonfeeding you. He tried defending his underage extreme faggotry "that they were released for the GBC" here >>5572651

>>5572872
Doesn't work that way, zoombot

>>5568059
They're watered down and weak versions of their originals. Graphics and Sound are always of lower quality. Tales of Phantasia is particularly bad.
>>5568161
Except the entire fucking library because it's 100 years old.

>>5572874
You must get a huge boner everytime you call someone on 4chan underage huh? Once again, he said they could be PLAYED on the GBC. He didn't call them GBC games.

Sorry I prevented you from getting huge boners.

>>5572896
>he said they could be PLAYED on the GBC
where?

>>5572896
>the original GBC music
>Red and Blue, originally made for the GBC
Stop whiteknighting retards, please

>>5572956
But a boomer wouldn't be nostalgic for the original music. I'm calling it a typo, not retardation.

>>5572984
It probably wasn't a typo. He defended it being a "GBC game" after he got called out, instead of acknowledging the error

>>5572994
No, he said that because he still didn't know exactly what you were spazzing out for. Not in defense of your idea that he thought it was a GBC game.

>>5572797
It's more like Red and Blue have pre-loaded palettes for the GBC, but they're no different than the palettes you can pick on the BIOS screen. Yellow, however, has a full color palette exclusive to the GBC, making it the same as the GBC black carts.

Final Fight on the gba is the best version.

>>5568280
he's using a flashcard, just patch that shit up

>>5572571
>>5572479
WSC is just an upgrade of the original Wonder Swan, not a new platform. It's like the GBC to the original GB.

Another retro GBA game.

>>5570665
Had this for DOS and played constantly as a kid

>>5571639
Yeah man lets have more emulation vs hardware threads

>>5568161
If mootykins didn't cucc out, the rules for what was determined retro over 5 years ago would've had the lazy janny kicked out for lulz.

R-Type 3 on GBA was a travesty. Swaps out the hard rock soundtrack for some space lounge shit, animations swapped out with sprite rotation

>>5570828
Very interesting. Please post more about that in this thread >>5568821

>>5568059
>Tales of Phantasia
Quicksave, some good new animations and English voices, but overall very shitty compared to the original: sound quality is naturally worse, and the worst part, the intro song has been replaced with some vocal-less, generic "valiant" crap

>Phantasy Star Collection
I've heard the sound quality is much worse, no quicksave, and no PSIV

>>5568059
Yoshi's Island has an extra world, if you like the game. So does Mario 3, but you're going to have to hunt for the hacked ROM. I recommend you download Smokemonster's ROM pack. It might be on there. Final Fight is decent conversion, as is Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts. If you wanna get really retro, then there's a port of Manic Miner available for the system.

Surprised nobody pointed out Mother 1+2.
Sure, they're inferior ports from the technical standpoint because of sound limitations and screen resolution, as every GBA port, but on the bright side, it has the definitive version of Mother 1 with a functional run button that doesn't glitch out the NPCs (like the NES proto) and the full ending, also if you're using a flashcart you can apply Tomato's translation.
Mother 2 doesn't have any new thing but it does have a glitch that lets you beat the final boss without praying.

>>5573149
>WSC is just an upgrade of the original Wonder Swan, not a new platform. It's like the GBC to the original GB.
Both WS and WSC were released in or after the year 2000, so it doesn't really matter as both are NOT RETRO.

>>5573149
>WSC is just an upgrade of the original Wonder Swan, not a new platform. It's like the GBC to the original GB.
so? WSC games are not /vr/etro, GBC games are, end of.

>>5568059
i'll list some to avoid

>Comix Zone
>R-Type 3
>Sonic the Hedgehog
>Earthworm Jim 1 & 2
>Mortal Kombat Advance
>Contra: Hard Spirits
>Blackthorne

>>5572624
Have sex

>>5574957
go dilate

>>5573149
>WSC is not a new platform
wrong. See first sentence here >>5572624
Only remakes made for the WSC (like the final fantasy games) are retro

>>5574978
this is the dumbest fucking shit

>>5574981
maybe do something about that asshurt