/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[5-7] Two more Quake map jams, SM196 and Map Jam X
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61717
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61718

[5-5] GZDoom 4.1.1 released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64582

[5-3] Introducing SM195, seven Quake speedmaps made in 24 hours
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61715

[5-1] Release of GZDoom 3.8.0 Vintage
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64521

[5-1] Memoirs of Magic now fully released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=50250&start=465#p1101659

[4-29] Hell-Forged updated to 0.9, Episode 1 fully playable
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397

[4-27] Introducing Lt. Typhon, a new mod from the maker of Baradoom and Nun with a Gun
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64378

[4-23] Jimmy releases Faithless, a Hexen-style hub mapset for Heretic
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=64411

[4-19] NBlood updated
https://github.com/nukeykt/NBlood/releases/tag/v1.01

[4-17] Grezzo Due 2 revealed
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105657-grezzodue-2-has-been-revealed-to-the-public/

[4-16] RemasterSFX repackaged in .wad format for maximum compatibility. With some bonus goodies.
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105645-remastersfx-in-wad-format/

[4-13] Pandemonia updated to 1.1.
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=60984

[4-13] NULL: Face to Face 3 map demo
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=59100&sid=a0e472434de5d8d24ed0e2aad72aa4ed&start=15#p1099526

[4-8] MetaDoom updated to v5.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=02bf2fae2438f0dcd3b36503f87ae744&start=1545#p1098655

[4-7] GZDoom 4.0 formally released, with alpha Vulkan support
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64188

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unreal >>> quake > doom

>doggos akimbo

>>5558567
Unreal=Doom>Quake

On another note, does GZDoom support FMV in any kind of video format?

>>5558567
>unreal

It's shit. I didn't reach even a half of the walkthrough because it was so boring, even though it was one of those games with fancy graphics that was running on my old crappy PC that supported only software mode.

Doom > Quake > Half-Life > Build games > Quake 2 > shit > piss > Unreal

FUCK! He can't get up this path!

>>5558592
It used to but it was Windows-only (depended on DirectShow), and since no one really used it it was canned.

Could fake video playback if only audio could be played with a time offset argument

is there a quake map pack that revamps the original maps?

>>5558567

This map is kinda tough. I found a horn again and it gave me an Ogre, and then another Shambler. I'd like to think he's the same one as from before.

Ogre doesn't last all that long (but did cut down that Vore). Shambler does a lot of the killing. I wish I could take him with me into the next level.

Bye bye.

20 maps in and this shit is fucking impossible. Dying to the constant bullshit Archvilles and Cyberdemons and having to redo the entire hour long map is the worst feeling in the fucking world. What do I do?

>>5558634
:'(

give him a hug

>>5558594
RENT FREE

Replayed Rubicon Rumble Pack last weekend. I had forgotten how good levels they are.

Though, I probably should also play the original Rubicon level(s) at some point. If they're even remotely like RRP, I'm going to like them.

>>5558634
touch his ass

>>5558636
>What do I do?
try to enjoy games

>>5558592
Over 9000 lines of ANIMDEF

>>5558717
Heh I remember this one guy who was porting Killing Time to Zdoom, he was porting all the ingame videos as sprite animations... Always seemed like madness to me.

>>5558636
Some parts are complete bullshit, yes. It's like the some maps were designed with save scumming in mind.

>>5558717
Nah, it's better to use scripts to change textures/sprites/2d on-screen images to do it

>>5558723
You can use the picnum property to use textures as actor sprites without having to bother with sprite naming limitations. No rotations though

>>5558717
vegita, upgrade your scouter to 4.1.1

>>5558681

Yo what nigga made the Doom episode 2 maps? They're fucking massive lmao

>>5558594
id games are overrated garbage

>>5558525
>It's almost like a big and grotesque Pikachu.
What about a mod that changes Shambler models to Pikachu?
Quakemon

>>5558594
>Quake over Duke fucking Nukem
GTFO

>>5558757
Detective Shambler

>>5558762
muh interactivity
muh humour

Further delay of SIGIL to September due to maps still being unfinished. I guess Romero showed everything he had in his stream, which means only two completed short maps and a few more that had been started.

>>5558416
is he right?

>>5558779
It's one of the original esports related games

>>5558775
Ffs how did DOOM ever come out on time?

>>5558775
I stopped caring about romero
realized the community already produces far better content in a regular basis

>>5558762
Quake has better design. Duke levels are generic resemblance of real world.

>>5558775
source?

>>5558823
Nobody cares, go bang some Ogres

Some questions regarding Slade and it's options.
1:Is there a way to add vim keybindings?
2:Is there an option to set macros (I'd like to add a macro that compiles an ACS script when saved)
3:Can the editor add closing paratheses for every one I open?

I know this sounds super spoiled, I'm too used to modern editors.

Is there any versions of Smooth Doom with all sprites in png? I want to make a modified version, but I'm too lazy to convert shit.

Well, that's Armagon.
Dissolution Of Eternity is better overall I feel, but even if Scourge Of Armagon starts a bit rough, it does get a lot more fun later.

Machine Games did an episode, didn't they?

quake is garbage

>>5558823
>>5558829
I like both but Quake does show off some of its development scars with stuff like how one episode has a final boss and others don't.
It's a good thing the expansions had some ideas id dropped for the base game, even if Q1/SOA/DOE don't really give you the "Lovecraft" feel as much as you which it did.

quake is garbage

>>5558858
>Machine Games did an episode, didn't they?
Yup, and it's pretty good, if a little uninspired.
https://www.quaddicted.com/reviews/dopa.html

>>5558798
The community produces slaughter garbage with Unreal style sprawling locations and annoying neon, magenta colours.

I played Hurt yesterday because I thought the first map of the author was interesting. Now the second map is the typical shit the community does. Big scale fucktard map with no proper progression, confusing layout with lots of unneccessary backtracking, awful new coding, and slaughter shit.

>>5558823
This guy is joking or is a retard.

Is SIGIL never fucking coming out?

>>5558891
Does Doomworld idgames have a tagging system for slaughterwads and otherwise?
Because if that exists, you can still find wads without that or at least in a small amount.

>>5558898
Yes, and the fact that it took you this long to see through romero's bullshit is incredible. He comes out of the gate talkin big shit and then he screws the pooch and doesn't even care to take care of it afterward.

>>5558898
Not until you publicly admit that you are Romero's bitch.

>>5558902
Look he's very busy with his gas station job ok?

quake is garbage

>>5558775
Yeah. Source.

Anybody remember playing this back in the day?

Would there be a wad I can load with pretty much anything Heretic related that changes the colors of Gargoyle Leaders and Nitro Golems? I played one wad where they had different skins, and I never realized how fucky it was that you can't immediately distinguish a difference between enemies that shoot and enemies that don't.

>>5558636
>>5558726
make a pistolstart demo
> you cant save in a demo

>>5558749
Not actually, large levels are the Standard for FPS its just over the last 10 years or so people have been challenging themselves to make smaller and smaller ones because they're mapjunkies.
Big Maps are normal, small maps are deathtraps.

You're the first person ive heard complain about maps being large.

>>5558962
Every Episode 2 map is 4 times the size of Episode 1

>>5558972
Thats a good thing because they're labyrinthine nature gives you alot of stuff to do and places to go. The different architecture and non-techbase aspects were also pretty fresh, of course you didnt see any of it except in the Help screens unless you bought the game.
Alot of people just played shareware versions of games back then because their parents were tight or they disapproved of games and wouldnt bother ordering them. Because shareware often came with other samplers on CDs.
> stop playing that damn evil game and go clean your room

E2M4 is my alltime favorite doom1 map. Nobody will ever convince me otherwise. It also has a unique ominous music score that isnt used in any other maps.

>>5558972
>>5558991
Areas are also meant to be recognizable, which is what Doom has over Wolfenstein 3D (comparing these two is how you see why Doom is important and it was what it took to popularize FPS too)
Even with the automap, you can still remember how areas looked, even if they're not on pair with Duke Nukem 3D levels

>>5558775

Que?

>>5558997
Sometimes they intentionally weren't.
Slough Of Despair (E3M2) goes out of its way to make it hard to remember where things were and puts a cactus in your way to keep you from moving around fast.
But this is good level design. They even give you a secret weapon which doesnt work well in that level (plasma bolts dont like wall corners).

>>5559014
I think you have to run the game from a shortcut instead of loading it up from the console like that.
I dont remember dimensions of the past modding the SNG to shoot sprite projectiles but if its asking for an s_bullet.spr id go into the pak file with Slade and look for that "blue water bubble" sprite and copyrename it to match so it has a bone to chew on.

>>5559027
I tried putting the Id paks in the dopa folder, and got this instead.

>>5559014
>>5559045
this is an unusual error and you may have to reinstall quake. Thats pretty easy but just saying
- redownload dopa
- redownload qspasm
- make a new folder and unzip qspasm and dopa into it
- copy the id folder to the new one
- go grab your savefiles and configuration file and put those there
- delete the old folder and rename the new one to the old one
Sometimes computers hiccup, image files for example degrade over time due to bitflips caused by radio waves or gamma rays. Chances are if you get fresh copies of the files its not going to give you issues that other people arent getting. Something video related due to hardware mismatches and requirements might be a thing. Having the game ask for assets its not supposed to isn't a thing with mods that aren't broke.

>>5559014
>>5559027
>>5559045
>>5559063
I solved it, I was an idiot and copied the wrong .pak files.
One of them was a DOE one, I guess it wondered what/where the fuck the lava nails were.

>>5558962
Chalk me up to someone who doesn't like big maps either. Smaller maps (<20 minutes) usually have a faster clip of encounters, an economy of space that's more exciting to fight in, and are overall easier for me to build a map-long strategy. I think E4M2 is the best Doom 1 map, and Plutonia is the best IWAD for those reasons - the nonstop tension of quickly pushing your way through fight after is more interesting to me than long bouts of wandering. It makes Doom feel like an arcade game or a free-form shmup like Bangai-O, which are the feelings I like.

>>5559083
different strokes different folks

I like big levels for a few reasons
In single player it gives me the chance to juggle different things going on, I can move between areas and leave monsters to infight or wander around and thin out. Or I can go back and grab health and ammo from somewhere to deal with problems. Im not concerned about how long it takes me at all, im just fine playing a map for 1 hour plus. This is about strategy and survival horror.
> TNT map 27 "Mount Pain" was an absolutely huge level
> so is Plutonia2 map 23 "Aztec" and map 17 "Nuclear Horror"
> these maps can take at least 30 mins to beat even if you're hauling ass and know what to do.

I like big levels in multiplayer/deathmatch because it gives me room to sneak around and gank people in the ass. Im The Predator and thats my playing style and thats the way im always going to play FPS.
Maps like Lost Halls from quake 2 and The Warehouse to a small degree. And also the single player warehouse maps too, because im a big fan of the single player quake 2 maps being used in deathmatch. Most of those are pretty big.

>>5558592
No way man! Unreal is way too confusing.
Legit How do you complete the tower level? im stuck

>>5559109
you're gonna hate this, and thankfully it's the only time unreal pulls this shit
in the pitch black area with the bath you can get dumped into, there's a corridor that leads to the upper half of the sunspire

>>5559123
Thanks, anon. I'll look for it

>>5558823
Duke levels are the exact opposite of generic. At a time when FPS games were still mostly abstract mazes with keycard hunts, Duke had progression involving scaling rooftops, demolishing apartment buildings, climbing through vents, etc.

>>5559109
You go to the top?!

>>5559072
Man, Dimensions Of The Past is gorgeous.

>>5559137
Kinda. I'd say Duke kind of crosses abstract stuff with quasi-realistic environments, for largely non-linear levels.
Does it very well, in a way I'm very fond of.

>>5559156
I've been to the top many times. My save might be bugged or something

>>5559176
if you're at the top of the sunspire then it should be fairly obvious
pull the lever in the crystal chamber, that calls down the floating chariot (for lack of a better name) that takes you to na pali

wouldn't mind if metadoom takes the life system from eternal and makes it work like dakka where it just resets health and maybe even make the player invencible for a while
only so the mod has a chance to be more fun with maps that have death exits
>only one life available
>maybe have a chance to spawn near soul/megaspheres
>if already picked up/used, the chance of it appearing again may or may not be lower
>it also has a higher chance to be found in secrets

>chaingunners in open arenas

Send help.

>>5559185
OK I just wasnt seeing it until now. thanks again

I like how the cultists in blood all squeal like little girls, drop to the floor and start toddling around when they take damage

it's cute

>>5559194
No. Pistol start for you. Have fun.

>>5558749
tom hall really likes mazes and he designed most of episode 2 afaik

>>5559194
know your exits, run fast
if they're out in the open and not on a ledge then position some of them so they will be hit by the others, and shoot at the ones in front if they start shooting
they have such a wide spread that they will cause alot of infighting
but seriously, know your exits, GTFOuttathere

>>5559241
> tom hall was in with rise of the triad
> its literally nothing but mazes

>>5559249
yup, and pushwalls

>>5559249
Rott could've been a lot better with some better level design. As is it's pretty fun, but gets old after a short while.
When I was a kid the enemies pleading, playing dead, and rolling out of the way blew my mind though.

>>5558562
>>5558898
News regarding Sigil release. Brenda Romero replied to one guy who asked about it:

"The game has been done for ages. The manufacturer is waiting on one last thing - the disk. Should start shipping next week. The delay is out of our hands, unfortunately."

Source: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103430-sigil-new-romero-megawad-for-may-2019/?page=47

>>5558891
>>5558915
>>5558750
>>5558823
>>5558894

Today I will: Be a contrarian on 4chan

>>5558823
Ah yes the uniqueness of a brown drab shithole and military bases

one thing I'd love for Ugly as Sin to have is a more in-depth ration system that counts the individual meal components, and allows for the player to select and prepare each meal as a real life MRE ration, taking into account the nutritional value and cooking time of each of them.

imagine actually sitting down to set up the stove/flameless heater and picking out what to prepare to eat/drink in order to keep yourself up, or digging up a packet of peanuts on the go to keep your gums occupied.

would be pretty Nice.

>>5559220
If some insane ghoul fucker double tapped you out of nowhere im sure you'd be in stoic silence

>>5559391
WOO

>>5559220
I don't know about cute, but it certainly adds humor to the atmosphere and distinguishes them as human footsoldiers from the actual hellspawn.

>>5558891
>The community produces slaughter garbage with Unreal style sprawling locations and annoying neon, magenta colours.
Man you put it in words what I've been feeling for a while, though I'd have been less rude. I've been playing Eviternity and while I'm enjoying it, all the maps are starting to blend together as they all look very similar in architecture, merely changing the textures. It's like everyone started aping skillsaw. Really getting tired of it.

>>5559396
I find their AAAAH scream slightly haunting. Also that their corpses dissolve after some time (which doesnt happen with most other enemies barring the critters and mother spider) kinda hints that they are not fully of this world either.

>>5559241
Correction; Sandy Petersen retooled a bunch of Tom Hall's left over reject levels to save time, as he was hired like 10 weeks before the game shipped, being the new guy who wasn't familiar with the game or the software.
In hindsight, this was an excellent shortcut, because I think the 'realistic' proofs of concept which Tom was trying to show off, filtered through Sandy's abstract design sensibilities and classic D&D nerdery, made for some of the best levels. They're very much my favorites of ID's Doom maps, with the best aesthetics and atmosphere, and the most fun gameplay.

>>5559249
They couldn't do all that much with height (though there's some experimenting), and walls were still perfect 90 degree angles in square segments.
I think they did quite a good job with what they had, and Rise Of The Triad has a lot of Tom Hall's personality all over it.

>>5559412
>implying skillsaw was the first

Okay, listen up. People could say the same for mario rom hacks, you could very well say "waaah all the mario rom hacks are all kaizo clones, they're so hard with frame perfect jumps and inputs". Well, there's a reason for that, you think after 20+ years people want to run through extremely easy levels?

The same goes for doom, after 20+ years, the people who play doom are the hardcore fans who live and breathe doom. These people don't want to run through corridors killing 2-3 imps at a time with a pump shotgun, it's just too easy when you've been playing the same game for 20+ years you're definitely good at it. I for one LOVE slaughter maps because I can see the creativity put into a GOOD slaughter map. It's objectively more difficult to make a good slaughter map than it is to make a good non slaughter map, which is why I appreciate when they're good.

>>5558891
Dude. You post this on every fucking doom thread. Trust me, we already know.
>new maps bad, old maps good
>colors bad, new textures bad
>modern wads only good if made by Romero

>>5559426
You're reading a lot of things that aren't there in my post. I wasn't even referring to gameplay and I never implied skillsaw was the first. He was just the most prominent in my mind.
I just want something that looks different than an entire open wide map made of dark textures covered in neon lights, which Eviternity and a bunch of wads I've played recently are very guilty of.

>>5559426
Very good post.

>>5558891
Sounds like doom isn't the game for you

>confusing layout
Go play call of duty then, it's a nice straight line for you
>Big scale map
Go play call of duty then, it's a nice straight line for you
>magenta colors
you want the ugly puke colors that you've been seeing in ultimate doom and doom 2 for the past 2 and half decades?
>no proper progession
This is a buzzword, you don't actually know what you're saying. No proper progession? What you're not leveling up? Go play an RPG. I mean you're prgoressing by getting keys and opening up new areas of the map and getting new weapons

I'm sorry but everything you said is just plebian nonsense. You're objectively incorrect, and at no point in your inane rambling did you form anything that could be interpreted as a coherent and tangible argument.

>>5559434
You do know, that even the original Doom wads were quite colorful.

>>5559426
There's a middle ground between Doom E1M1 and "dude lock the player in a cramped arena that ends with archviles lmao".

>>5559442
Sure, it was consistently colorful throughout, but some modern mappers seem to have taken the Tomentor667 mapping style of adding borders to everything but with bright technicolor lights instead, and everything that's not that is just drab and dark.

>>5559434
>I just want something that looks different than an entire open wide map made of dark textures covered in neon lights,

I'm not even mememing , call of duty sounds perfect for you.if you don't like open maps with non linear structures.

what's the best way to play Heretic/Hexen?

>>5559445
yeah but there aren't that many casual players anymore. I'm not alone when I say I find it fun being creative in those crazy situations. It's always fair, there's always pillars for the archvilles, it's about gitting gud and preparing for the situation and playing it perfectly. There's always a dead give away. (square room, pillars, lots of boosts) You know its going to be an archie trap.

I have a funny feeling you play with save states. Try taking away the save states and then you'll feel the adrenaline as you walk into a big arena and are able to take it on. Eventually you'll start to learn how to actually defeat each enemy and in what order and with what gun. You'll start optimizing your gameplay and actually get good. I'm not joking when I say the people who complain about this map design are just not good at the game, because if you were good at the game you'd love the challenge.

>>5559457
with a puke bucket. Seriously those games make me nauseous.

>>5559448
go back to /v/ fucktard

>>5559469
>makes a valid point
>gO tO /v/ fUckTarD

Well, since you have nothing of value to say. Ironically, go back to /v/ brother.

>>5559473
screaming
>CALL OF DUTY XD
at everything you don't like isn't a valid argument, sorry
post a wojak next

>>5559474
I don't even know what a wojak is. ;)

>>5559353

>>5559481
a whole new generation gets to experience the Daikatana Effect

>>5559464
i like em

>>5559458
>yeah but there aren't that many casual players anymore.

As long as Doom is a good game and there are mods or new games that act as gateway drugs, there will always be new players who discover it and fall in love. I started playing Doom in 2006-7 when I was in middle school because Skulltag and ZDaemon multiplayer felt like Quake, which eventually lead to me playing ZDoom single-player and now has me playing PRBoom+ pistol starting with no saves. And I'm sure that not only am I not alone, but that there are still more people getting in on it starting from shit like Brutal Doom, or throwback games like Dusk.

And even people who play a game for a long time aren't necessarily great at it, nor does it mean that their tastes are always the same. Mapsets like Coffee Break or BTSX are highly regarded and never go into slaughter territory. Different strokes.

>>5559457
Chocolate Heretic or GZDoom.

>>5559481
>breaking the passive and factual style of writing to say "I've got a great demo coming up in the future"
Robot uprising confirmed

>>5559482
That's neural network generated text, not Romero's words.

>>5559434
I was just playing Ultimate Doom The Way id Did. It's quite fun wad. Challenging and innovative encounters without being slaughter. You might enjoy it.

>>5559484
I would be inclined to agree, because what you're saying does make alot of sense. But however, the statistics don't really help you on that one. The whole point that was being made earlier is that it seems like all wads fall under the difficult category. That means thats where the large majority of the demand is (yes of course the mappers don't get paid, so its not like ACTUAL demand) But the mappers receive criticism and feedback through comments to help them on their next map, and given the fact that hard maps are popular means that most people enjoy hard maps. Sure you're not alone, but you're in the minority. Which in that case, go play a different game instead of trying to get everyone to have your opinion and taste.

Or alternatively, start making your own maps

>>5559482
Except Romero doesnt have to switch engines and lead a team that never worked on a game before

>>5559501
I'm not the guy you're arguing with. I'm just saying that there's room for all kinds. There's difficulties like HMP and below for a reason, and the fact that non-slaughter maps or the most ballbusting get made at all and still win Cacowards and are regarded as notable or even great means that there's no prejudice in the community that considers easier stuff as unworthy of being played or recognized.

>>5559458
>"save states"
Do you think saves are a feature added to Doom like they were to emulators? The game always had quicksaving, and the original manual encouraged using them.

>>5559457
for hexen it's definitely gzdoom

>>5559528
Back when we were using mouse's with the little balls i them , or literally just a keyboard. Before people were good at videogames.

I'm just saying, I didn't like slaughtermaps because I was using savestates and it just seemed like i had to repeat a section over and over untill I did it, then it didn't feel as rewarding. But when you take away the save states your adrenaline skyrockets and you actually feel like you accomplished something by the end, because you could have lost all your progress at any moment. I don't care what old doom did, that's a false premise that you presented right there.

>>5559457
GZDOOM with Widescreen patch

>>5558634
No! You can't leave him, he cares so much for you.

where can i get full quake for free?
i want softwarr rendering

WHY IN CRISPY DOOM SPIDER MASTER MIND DIES FROM 3/4 BFG HITS, BUT IN GZDOOM FROM ONLY 2 HITS!!??

>>5559536
>and it just seemed like i had to repeat a section over and over untill I did it,
Well I mean, you technically still are, just over a longer stretch of time.
I usually find if people want to not use saves at all, more power to them, but it's a bit of a tall order to ask of everyone when some maps take upwards of an hour to beat, I'll definitely make a save or two in the middle even though I generally try not to.

>>5559482
The game itself is finished developing, this is a problem with the publisher. In some hypothetical worst case he can just say fuck it and release it now.

>>5559542
Maybe he followed me home.

>>5559542
Is that a tail or a turd back there?

>>5559564
I don't know how you could argue that I'm not enjoying something more now that i'm not using save states. That's not up to you to decide.

Can someone recommend a mod? Im trying to find one that adds new items but all I can find is weapon mods.

>>5559618
that's so general.

Carmack, who worked on Tomb Raider, was the head writer who created Doom and the main developer for Unity; he wrote the Doom Engine and worked on everything that has since been ported to Unreal Engine, Unreal Tournament, Unreal Tournament 2, The Crew, and even the upcoming Unreal Tournament 3. During this time he got to know many of the biggest names in the games industry and, after going from being very little involved in development to being a big player (the latter is a good thing), he felt he had everything to gain. Carmack even wrote a piece in the New York Times titled "Why I Was The First Person to Bring The Doom Engine to Unity." But it didn't just open up some doors for Carmack, a lot of other people thought that his enthusiasm was just an excuse to dump a little more money on a crappy piece of hardware that was barely good enough for a handful of demos.

>>5559620
>The Crew

>>5559619
Do you mean too broad of a category?

>>5559613
You're suggesting other people do as you do, hence the second paragraph of my post.
Not to mention what you just say could just as well go for the guys who save after every encounter, really.

>>5559620
>the latter is a good thing

>>5559541
>widescreen patch
What?

Is it for the HUD or what?

>>5559562
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3x1Jy8pYM
because g/zdoom uses actual rng and not a preset table

>>Crap-Life as OP pic
You have to go back

>>5558891
>>5559441

>>5559603
Do Shamblers even have anuses?
They don't have tails I'm pretty sure, maybe he just sat on something and it stuck to his butt?

>>5559562
>>5559650
SINCE WHEN

>>5559562
Blockmap bug. GZDoom hitboxes are effectively larger and more reliable compared to vanilla-accurate ports, where hitscan attacks could just go right through monsters sometimes. This means the BFG can land enough tracers on the mastermind that it's actually possible to deal over 3000 damage and oneshot it.

>>5558962
I actually also dislike large maps. I always try playing without mid-level saves whenever possible, and when a map gets excessively long I either need to compromise my playstyle or certain maps become horrible to play fucking Mount Pain.

>>5559687
autoautosave-1.0.pk3

>>5559702
Sounds nice, but it seems to be a GZDoom thing and I usually use more vanilla source ports. Saved just in case I use a wad made for GZDoom though.

>>5559665
>Do Shamblers even have anuses?
Probably considering id gave Cacodemons some extremely visible holes. The buttcheeks are probably just hiding it.

>>5559657
>>>/r/pgcodex

>>5559727
yeah they are based for recognizing half life as the cinematic garbage that ruined fps forever.

>>5559448
>not Warframe or Bioshock or TES

>>5559735
>>5559735
>>>/out/

Half-Life is retro but Half-Life 2 isn't? Fuck off.

>>5559863
>a game released in 1998 is retro but a game released in 2004 isn't? Fuck off.

I did it. Ive defeated ronald mcdonald

Oh gee its another one of those maps where "you have to use infighting to kill enough things to make your ammo last" and also "here's some more skeletons if you wasnt satisfied with the previous lot"

>>5559876
from the thumbnail i thought you were using some kind of gameboy black and green palette/shader

>>5559881
> oh gee its another day where anon complains about slaughtermaps
come back when you have something more original

Using OBLIGE for the first time.

Why are all the enemies invisible?

I set stealth monsters to rare....

>>5559886
it's probably not even a slaughtermap

>>5559825
imagine defending one of the games that caused the cancer of modern gaming.
maybe you should leave.

>>5559863
they both have more in common with modern garbage than real proper retro fps.
they dont belong on /vr/.

The Thunderbuster in hideous destructor is amazing. I'm really fond of its shotgun too. Some goodass weapons there

The crops were hell this year, I tell ya what. Drought really ripped and tore us.

>>5559964
That's a pretty good helmet. Does he have plans for a full set of armor?

>>5559937
I refuse, You are not a mod motherfucker. learn to differeniate between cinematic FMV games and Half-Life Story telling.
>>5559926
>SCURP A DE DURP GAME I HATE SHOULD BE BANNED FROM /VR/!

>>5559981
>muh train ride
>muh corridors
>muh realism
>muh unskippable cutscenes
kys

The first two levels are challenging.

The beginning of 3 is horseshit, you have to make a dive for a corner immediately and fire off a BFG to kill whoever's trying to pin you down. But then you can just explode the invincibility powerup with a grenade launcher and let the archangel help you mop up everyone else

You can just jump to the end but if you stick around (as with any level) you can find goodies

level 4 is way easier than 3, probably less than half the enemies and another archangel to free. Nothing to write home about

Unto the Cruel is pissing me off. I've got like 4 doorbusters but unfortunately the Cyberdemon still blocks the exit, so idk how effective those will be.

>>5560139
If 4chan let you just drag an image I wouldn't keep fucking forgetting mine.

>>5560139
If you've got berserk you can just beat a cyberdemon to death at point-blank range. The hard part will just be making it there.

>>5559876

>>5560139
What worked for me in Sever the Wicked is just booking it to the vulcanette and gunning down everything. I couldn't beat it when I was playing the whole game through so I did it recently as a naturist.

You can defeat the cyberdemon pretty easily if you've got a vulcanette, just find a good spot and unload.

>>5559908
i FIGURED IT OUT

WHAT ARE THE BEST OBLIGE ADDONS??

>Wayfarer
I'm not sure Heretic lends itself well to slaughter maps but goddamn is it fun. I don't even know if it counts as a slaughtermap.

>>5560154
>>5560203
I just shot the invincibility sphere and let these units do it for me.
Gonna door bomb my way through Hell Followed since the object of this mod is to play it as little as possible

>>5560242
>since the object of this mod is to play it as little as possible
Wait, what?

Do y'all think I have a hoarding problem?

>>5560296
It's a joke, son.

>>5560313
how can you carry that much without grinding movement to a halt

>>5560319
Hideous Destructor sets the encumber multiplier to 0.25 as default and I didn't change it.

Although I probably should. Really, I'm not playing the real game without it.
fUG

Basically I figure I'll set it to 1 if I'm actually co-oping with people

But yeah the more I think about it the more I realize how much it affects the game. Having to choose which weapons to drag along effects your ability to deal with enemies later on.

>>5560154
I tried that once. none of my jabs hit. then he just turned around to face me and killed me so hard the game crashed on me.

>>5560394
that's because HDguy is a fucking faggot.

>>5560313
wtf is all that

>>5560416
He's carrying a shitload of guns

>>5560416
All the weapons except for the brontosaurus and the sniper and the double barrelled shotgun, an extra bfg, two extra pistols, tons of ammo for all, few grenades, few door bombs, rad suit, auto turret, rope ladder, backpack with ammo, health kit, berserk back, potion, stimpack
heavy armor

think that's everything.

>>5560404
The in game character, or the guy who makes the mod?

>>5560394
like basically all the cool shit you can do in HD, you'll need practice. just try learning the circlestrafing first. that's the part that keeps him from shooting and turning you into a smoking crater. all you have to do is hug the hitbox (remember that it's a completely static square, it doesn't turn to match the sprite's facing) and as long as you've moved out of the way enough any time he goes to shoot, he'll stop the attack and try to take aim again. once you've got the movement down, then it shouldn't be any trouble to add in the punches. you don't need to worry about maximizing your punch damage since the cyber can't even fight back as long as your movement is maintained. you'll get the kill well before berserk wears off, if you applied it just for the fight.

>>5560445
no I mean my punches didn't register.

>>5560404
Are you telling me that people who draw kids fucking are bad? My god!

a few months ago someone was complaining that quakespasm didn't have the weapons in the correct positions, what was the Quakespasm config for fixing that?

>>5560479
??????

>>5560452
you really have to be right up against the hitbox
as long as you get green sparks you're landing hits, it won't make a noise unless you land a particularly high-damage punch and it won't trigger pain unless it's a headshot

>>5560510
I assume he thought you meant HDoomGuy, and even then I don't know what the fuck he's trying to say. HDoomGuy draws tiddies, that I've seen.
Prolly just trying to stir shit like a fag.

>>5560526
Just look at his pixiv. Shit stirs itself.

>>5560558
k. i did.
turns out shit doesn't stir itself and you're a liar.

>>5560558
I would say he is in the minority, but that doesn't mean everyone is. One of the women in this discussion stated "I didn't mean the women. Those who draw kids have sex." I agree with him.

first time playing quake, should I go hard or nightmare?

>>5560587
brainlet here, how do you installed it

>>5560587
hard. Nightmare makes enemies behave in weird, stupid ways.

>capable of exerting a speed of 320MPH while encumbered with heaps worth of weapons and their respective ammunition
>and maintaining said speed indefinitely
>able to negate any damage from high impact falls
>able to soar 100 feet into the sky dome via conveniently placed railings

just how fucking powerful is this dude's fuckin feet

>>5560587
hard for intended enemy behavior

>>5560583
Shit! The global shitposting AI is corrupted! Everyone, now is our chance to rise up and reclaim the world from this hellish dystopia!

>>5559457
Gzdoom with software rendering.

>>5560592
get mark v for authenticity or quakespasm-spiked for compatibility, then put the id1 folder in the same directory

>>5560592
There's a an archive at the MEGA link in the OP.

How do you guys handle midlevel saves? Save whenever you want? Only have a limited number? Save when you have to stop playing and only open it when you come back? No saves at all?

I was pretty firmly against saving altogether, accepting the grind of just repeating a stage until I get it all right. But now that I've lately been playing maps longer than I'm normally used to, I've started to open myself up to the idea that it's alright to save during a level for the sake of learning how the level works, and then going for a full no-save rerun when I beat it. Sorta like playing an arcade game with lives/continues and then going for a 1CC.

>>5560632
I don't monitor myself, but I usually save before an obvious fight/ambush, and then after if I think I've done well enough (and continue on even if I didn't).
I don't care what anyone else thinks of me and don't feel the need to unnecessarily repeat sections I've already played through.

Best fantasy/DnD-like doom wads?

>>5560641
hexen

Do we have any texture artists who are looking for something to do?

>>5560641
FINAL FANTASY 4 FREE ENTERPRISE

>>5560571
Nope. Dude draws nekkid kids having sex. It's right there.

>>5560632
There's a particular satisfaction I get when I manage to get it all in one go without stops. It's sorta like playing a piece of music - knowing how to play every phrase individually is good, but it's not really a song until I can connect those pieces together into one complete performance. So saves or not, the ultimate goal is eventually no saving.

to that guy who posted that link to the skins, many of them are shit, but there is a small amount of very high quality ones

>>5560646
What's on your mind?

>>5560727
I'm making a tomb, it isn't very big and the player doesn't enter it but the big bad is inside it so narrative wise I wanted to have a texture that represents that. Big bad looks very similar to Corax from Hexen.

>>5560736
You mean like a single texture that fakes the perspective/view of looking into a room? I get it...uh I think.

I'm trying to figure out the math behind giving sprites hitboxes in 3D space and how such a thing could be implemented in GZDoom.

>>5560751
No no, I mean more like an edit with Corax on it.
It was more meant to be a hint to the player that the big bad looks like that to help the narrative structure of the level. If you're on the doom forums I can hit you up in a few months.

>>5560754
I used to think such a thing was impossible but Brutal Doom does it.
Mark is an ass, but holy shit I would beg, borrow and steal to get a work speed like his.

>>5560763
>I used to think such a thing was impossible but Brutal Doom does it.
brutal doom has each enemy periodically spawn "head" actors that only last for a few tics, are larger than the actual monster's hitbox (so you can actually hit it), and explode when they do damage in order to transfer damage to the monster they're "attached" to
it's buggy, leads to the head hitbox just vanishing whenever sgtmarkiv forgot to spawn it in (because they only exist for like 3 tics), and I wouldn't be surprised if there's cases where there's multiple head hitboxes for one monster at a single time

even within the constraints of zandronum 3, it's a terrible solution

>>5560773
Yeah, people familiar with programming have opened the hood of Brutal Doom and spoken of how spaghettified and hacky it is, but it works. Though fuck trying to learn from him that would be a nightmare.

>>5560754
Maybe with the same stuff behind brightmaps?

>>5560776
Explain.

>>5560754
A faster solution is to just check for the Y position of the hit, like Ion Maiden does it.

>>5560787
yeah but you can still miss their head and have the shot go harmlessly past and over their shoulder

>>5559481
>distributing a doom wad in PDF format

Woah. Is this a loophole to get around UK floppy licensing?

>>5559481
Didn't Toys'R'Us crash and burn?

>>5558636
Yeah, after map 20, it gets brutal.

I still enjoyed it a lot

>>5559735
RPGCodex is Neogaf tier.

>>5560754
Probably not worth the effort.

>>5560776
>>5560784
I think he means using an invisible overlay to calculate hit areas on a sprite, but the problem here is that this would be a nightmare to make work consistently and accurately.

It sounds like an easy idea at first, but then you start to realize it's Jank City.

What's your favorite era of retro shooters from a graphical standpoint?
Id Tech 3 does it for me.

>>5560921
Probably the 90's Build shooters like Duke, Blood, and Shadow Warrior, even though they don't have the aesthetic style of Doom that I love the most.

I guess I'll just give it a go.

>>5560921
HL engine games

>>5560802
The UK has floppy licensing?

>>5560216
Obaddon

>>5561040
Oi!

Do you have a license questioning license?

>>5560921
For me, it's UE1

Why is there no Shambler plushie?

>>5561082

The Blood remaster is out.

>>5561173
>>5558562

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Da8x89BBjI8

>>5559481
Send that fucking wad to the ones who gave you money, and one of them leak it on the next day at least.

>>5561179
the most unrepresentative footage of actual gameplay i've ever seen

>>5561179
>>5561173
https://www.gog.com/game/blood_fresh_supply
Seems exclusive to GOG?

>>5561206
GoG flipped the switch too early, it'll come to Steam too.

>>5561210
>>5561206
Im wondering how this will turn out.

>>5561179
>Kex engine
Kaiser worked on this, neat.
The trailer is very weird.

>>5561179
>>5561206
absolutely disgusting

>>5560652
post a link nigger

I miss team fortress bros ;-;

>>5561248
Contrarian faggot

>>5561179
>>5561206
uh

yay
it's blood

>>5560787
That's how ever game did headshots until SoF (at least that I'm aware of).

>Sees another thread saying that it comes out on July 15.
>Blood Remaster is out now.

WTF

Made To Order difficulty setting is a godsend. Nice to play Blood with higher enemy count without the bullshit cultist crackshottiness and the health boosts on everyone. Can tailor it to just how crazy you want it.

>>5561179
I love that song.

>>5561306
It gives some Metal Slug vibes

>>5561179
Looks alright, I think I'll stick with GDX though.
It's nice if more people get to play Blood.

>>5561265
casual midget :^)

>>5561173
Garbage. Don't pollute the Doom thread with this excuse of a "game".

>https://www.gog.com/game/quake_the_offering
>Quake: The Offering
I'm sorry, what?

>>5561179
So this is the Blood port for the masses that now gets covered by every streamer/youtuber(and their moms) in existence.

>>5561206
>"Battle it out in local split-screen action"
>tfw no friends

Man, Hard Mode doesn't fuck around. In a way, I very much appreciate that.

>>5561361
Who knows why they call it that, but it's the original game along with the two mission packs.

They don't include the music, however, so here:
https://files.catbox.moe/oqdnqp.zip
Some guy on /wsg/ gave this to me, it's got the original Nine Inch Nail soundtrack for the original Quake, the new soundtracks for both Scourge Of Armagon and Dissolution Of Eternity, and then an adapted version of Nine Inch Nail's Ghost Album (which is open source/freeware, so to say), which he used for SOA, but I used it with Machine Games' episode Dimensions Of The Past, and found it fit quite well.

Fresh Blood is up on the mega.
Get it while it's hot!
https://mega.nz/#F!QXIk1bjB!NHRWGIfjcc77PyGgRlga4Q?kTRF3KpQ

>>5561387
I recommend using Quakespasm for compatibility (whether or not you want to buy the Quake package or pirate it is up to you), then you would put each music folder in the respective game file folder (so the Dissolution Of Eternity soundtrack goes in a folder named MUSIC in the Rogue folder).
See pic related.

>>5561387
Mind if I mirror your link? I think the one on the mega only has the original ST.

>>5561389
reported

>>5561397
Go ahead, my man.

>>5561389
is it a decent port? I'm pretty satisfied with bloodgdx so far but i might give it a shot

>>5561398
Fuck off Atari. Or should I say Infrogames? Go away before I say it backwards.

>>5558642
Obsessed

>>5561398
dounbooted

>>5561351
>Doom thread
This has never been just a Doom thread.

>>5561407
I don't know. it feels a tiny bit off, and the screen feels like it was cut in half for some reason. I've been feeling out of wack all day today so that might be what's throwing me off so who knows.
It's free to try I guess, lol.

>>5561206
Will this come to Steam? I only buy games on Steam.

12 years later, and no Doom mod in my opinion has had greater gameplay, fantastic level design, and the amount of polish put in than Knee Deep in Zdoom. I know its controversial, but to me its still the best thing the Doom community has ever given us. Its a shame we'll never see a sequel though.

What are some notable console shooters? Been feeling bored and want to update the mega with more varied shit.

>>5561467
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1010750/Blood_Fresh_Supply/
It's already out.
Now the question is which port is the best one

>>5561370
>>5561179
>>5561473
Ok so here's my first discoveries/impressions:
Lighting is more acurate than nBlood/GDX.

Sound is botched by interpolation, and is muffled. Not to the same degree as Duke World Tour did it, but noticable, especially if you compare it side by side.

Radius of actors is reduced for some reason - you can get into zombie/cultists face much closer than the original (at the same FOV setting). As a side effect - jumping on things like Tombstone is a bit harder since it's radius is narrrower, and at some point I fell "into" the voxel model which didn't happen in the original/fan ports since the edge of the tombstone was rigid as well (it is immaterial in KEXBlood)
IDK how it affects hitboxes.

AI is altered significantly. Cultists try to surround you, but end up running away from you some times, overall move more and shoot less even on highest difficulty.
Zombies a bit smarter about their pathfinding.

>>5560632
Depends on the size and difficulty of a level. If it's a standard, 5-15 minute level, I don't even feel the need to save. If it's an epic sized map or something brutal with constant lockins, I'll be saving.

>>5561179
>trailer doesnt play type o negative
missed opportunity

>>5561485
So, basically, this "remaster" is 100% pointless?
Fucking kaiser.

>>5561302
"Made to order"? Is that something from the remaster? BloodGDX has custom difficulty mode too but it's just called custom difficulty.

>>5561502
Yes.

>>5561471
whats controversial about it

>>5561514
Jesus, that's really too many options. In GDX it's just "enemy count, enemy damage, player damage". All those variables should be left to modders to change, otherwise people will play the game and think of it as vanilla but have a quite different experience from others.

>>5561525
Something to do with being bloated and exaggerating on details and content.
If you're familiar with Tormentor, you know what to expect from this and Blade of Agony.

>>5561525
my only gripe is unpleasant map layouts

> size and difficulty
speaking of which I just downloaded the 1024 maps again so I could play them on PrBoom+ and make personal demos.
Thing is... now the Shootable Switches that you need to use to get anywhere in the beginning maps are no longer working. Shoot the switches does nothing and you cant flip them firsthand.
(In fact there are no bullet puffs appearing on them either and doomguy does not UNF when trying the use key)

HALP
got the files fresh from idgames\
readme says they're boom compatable

>>5561492
>>5560632
Usually when I get past a hard chokepoint and also whenever I kill a Cyberdemon.
I also do it when I pull off some trick like managing to make a speedy run to a secret switch, jumping over a chasm or dodging fast enough to escape a teleporting horde.

Basically, I save after the Difficulty spikes to overcome them. Because of the random nature of combat in the game thats where the sense of accomplishment kicks in, when the success is locked in.

How the fuck does SBARINFO work? I want a small as hell Hud, similiar to the alternative one.
It should only draw health, keys, points and ammo for the current gun.
I can't seem to figure it out.

>>5561565
To clarify, for my mod. I know the alt hud can be adjusted the way I want it to be.

>>5561472
I only know ps2 shooters which are not retro.
Black, Timesplitters 1&2

>>5560754
>>5560861
I dont know how the BD author does it but the easy way (if you can implement it) would be to have separate actors which each have a Radius/Height associated with them. And then pass the damage they take to their "master" which is the monster.
With several that are maintained at different heights you could make each one take different amounts of damage from different damage types, higher or lower painchances (so a leg shot could put them on the ground due to damagetype.pain).
And likewise when it comes to Headshots you would have a smaller cylindrical actor (like Radius/Height 3 basically) which you can have the high damage multiplier on, or even do special stuff like get punched in the head and they have a high chance of being knocked out.
(and non-damage effects like if you take a headshot from a noble fireball having fancy screen colors, or even being instakilled and turned into a lost soul)
OG Xcom games used a similar system, at least for building a 3d model of the terrain (LOFTEMPS) which you never got to see, so that shots could be blocked or let through depending on that model of the terrain and registering the effects on the sprite based tiles.

The main thing I WANT to use it for is separating the hitbox from the collision detection so the standard monster radius doesnt have to be touched (wont get through bars and tight spaces) but their size when it comes to Shooting them will be smaller.
Monster or player with Radius 16 would still need a size 32 hole in map geometry to get through.
But the actual hitbox might be Radius 8 or 10 which is about 2 feet wide... much more realistic and also ignoring grazing hits since demons (and the player) aren't going to take any meaningful damage from those (heck a grazing shot with a rocket isnt even going to make it explode).
It would also nerf shotguns abit because everybody would be thinner, making you have to get a close up solid shot on them for the full damage.

>>5561485
port the AI fixes and palette changes to GDX and we're good to go.

fucking 10 bucks for a 20 year old game, hah, nah.

I hope you guys don't mind if I post this picture here.

>>5561471
>>5561545
>>5561550
Everyone complains about the maps but thats not the problem with it. The map geometry is fine. And as tough as it is, the final map is in line with modern gaming. The problem is enemies and guns. And no infighting.
(I would also point to the forced end-of-level tallies and the fact if you pistolstart at a later level your total-collected is off. Any way to turn that shit off would be great)

There's alot of different types of Imps and it takes away from the game alot . I think they should mostly just be slightly recolored translation string imp that throw varying kinds of fireballs. And the fireballs should all pretty much be yellow or red none of this blue and purple shit.

I appreciate the red horned demons but making them leap like that isnt all that great. The A_recoil feature can be used to make them lunge a little when they get close so you cant back off from them. And if they toss themselves in a pit, check if their target is above them, and if so have them lob an arcing fireball up at it.
Also the HK should be a translation recolor of the Baron so the doom2 image assets dont have to be included in the game.

- fuck the rifle, give the player a plasma gun or bfg.
- fuck the grenade launcher, give the player a rocket launcher, or a modified rocket launcher that can do an arcing shot altfire that explodes on contact.

Ive been meaning to come up with a fix for all this but ive been lazy about it.
Does this give me a meaningful worthwhile project to work on? I dont know.
I could fix these things... but I dont think other people care as much.

>>5561619
i dont know about how quality the actual port is but zdaemon is the only one that ever has active vanilla doom dm servers
zandronum is all megaman cancer and shit

>>5561584
is that from simploo?

>>5561179
They can hide the HUD all they want, but it is too obvious that whoever is playing has god mode enabled. They should have went with the "prepare to die"-aproach to their marketing IMO.
Nice music remix though.

>>5561638
who knows I found it somewhere
But I still need my problem fixed with the 1024 maps.
>>5561559

>>5561645
see >>5561197

Will the Blood Remaster work with REALLY old PCs? I'm on the toaster to end all toasters (early-ish Windows 7). Is that just not gonna happen or what?

>>5561647
simploo is this guy who i think made some doom 4 sprites based off the models but now he's making them stylized
i'm not sure if they're even finished but they look cool

>>5561620
Do it. If you can make KDIZD better you should.

>>5561620
Also that reminds me that I need to polish up the Suicide skin a bit.

>>5561082
Oh, the things I'd do if I had access to its source code...

>>5561632
I agree with you, I feel like 2 years ago though that kinda stuff wasn't as prevalent, I could be wrong.

I actually started out playing on ZDaemon and then a friend recommended me to try out Zandronum. I use to just play on those Invasion UAC servers that had the supergun wad.

>>5560921
I really dislike the look of the Quake 2 and Half Life era, with all the low-res textures ran through shitty filters that you often couldn't disable. Unreal's textures look outright bizarre.

>>5561679
yeah but he didnt make rotations for them, so they're not really sprites. Until I see full animations of them im declaring that they're just doodles and its a nothingburger.

>>5561693
Yeahhh but like I said people keep complaining about the Level geometry instead of the gameplay. So I dunno.
A few of the things I would do with it is
- Take the pale imps and give them an archvile attack instead of that stupid halloween ball they throw. Less damage but they'll hit you twice with it if you're exposed. Also possibly conjure up limited lifespan lost souls.
- Ill give the stone imps a Stone to throw at you over short distances so they're not useless down in a pit.
- Imps that throw the blue fireballs are going to start throwing Revenant Rockets, less damage maybe but still lets keep the theme right.
- Faster Satyrs because they have to gain something over imps for losing the ability to throw fireballs.
- Rapid Fire troopers are just zombiemen who will fire several times in a row and then stop.
- SSG will only do 14 pellets worth of damage to help preserve difficulty. But make it shoot faster to compensate, and I would use D64 graphics or something like a quake double barrel type of animation.

And the rifle zombie at the end would be a full fledged plasma zombie since he'd give you a plasma gun. Since I dont want to use D2 graphics assets im going to have to find some way to rip the "Quake 2 Plasma Gun" mod because thats what I would like to use for it.

so... Well Done or Extra Crispy?

>>5561741
i think he is working on them but probably taking shitloads of time

>voxels are rendered as cubes instead of squares
Why?

>>5561754
That's how the other sourceports do it in hardware rendering as well. For whatever reason nobody has managed to recreate software-style voxels in hardware mode.

>>5561754
I thought voxels were cubes? A pixel would be a square, right?

>>5561750
EC is literally made for co-op play, so it's extremely challenging for just one player.

>>5561750
I will advise Well Done

>>5561765
Voxels are collections of pixels in a 3D shape. They were made this way as a less costly alternative to 3D models. And the 2D pixels actually look more convincing than the cubes IMO, since they blend together from a distance.

>>5561765
Nope, Voxels are 3D pixels.
They are not cubes. Basically every time an engine encounters a voxel in a space, it just draws that voxel's color on the screen without bothering to calculate any other properties. that what makes them fast.
Here's a handy html5 demo https://github.com/s-macke/VoxelSpace

>>5560774
>but it works
occasionally

>>5561741
Since everyone like difficulty these days im also upgrading the Shotgun Sergeant to fire a full spread of 7 pellets using the rotation mechanic. It will be damagetyped so the player only takes about the same (30ish) they'd normally take, but now he can do some real damage to monsters when infighting happens.
And infighting will happen. Since infighting is a thing and it wasnt in the kdizd design that means I can make some things more lethal, because the player is going to be using infighting to dispatch more of the monsters.
- Rocket Zombies also load up a double barrel shotgun blast (canister round, two of what the sergeant will fire) if you're too close, instead of doing punches. Normally id do something like he pulls out a pistol but id rather not mess with the gfx and just use the weapon he already has.
- And make chainsaw zombies faster.

>>5561769
>>5561773
>>5561765
>>5561750
>>5561754
>>5561762
yeah but cubes are three dimensional squares
in terms of difficulty I think the most artificial aspect about the difficulty in blood was the amount of damage the enemies do. This new port has fine-tuned difficulty settings so play on the highest one and keep that Enemy Damage scale turned to medium or such.
Btw has anyone figured out what kind of packaging format that gog is using with its .gog files?

>>5561776
Now that you mention it yeah that is a groovy effect and I kinda miss it. Would be better if they were sorta pillow/rounded square shape and drawn slightly larger than their positioning stacks them.

>>5561754
>>5561762
It's easier to render cubes on modern graphics hardware. Rendering them as squares as originally intended is rather inefficient, but not impossible. Possibly not enough demand for the extra coding.

I like BloodGDX, but I gotta give props to the remaster for the improved mouse aiming.

>can't get past e1m2 on well done
I don't remember blood being this hard

>>5561485
Damnit, I was hoping I was losing my mind and that it wasn't the actual case. Jumping on the tombstone to get the akimbo secret was fucking hard.

>>5561821
It's fairly hard, and Well Done is the highest intended difficulty for single player.

Can someone guide me through the best WADs of all time? like the absolute best ones you should play after beating ultimate doom.

>>5561741
>- Ill give the stone imps a Stone to throw at you over short distances so they're not useless down in a pit.
Would that mean arcing physics?

>>5561837
Also, what's up with the multiplayer? I hit Join Game just to see how they did it and all I got was an error message. Do you really need Steam or GOG clients to get it working? Does the GOG version just not work like AvP2000?

>>5561717
Tim Sweeney said that oepn sourcing UE1 might be possible, and I hope he's gonna do it one day

meh, Im gonna wait and see if Kaiser fixes all the stuff post launch

Are private messages disabled on zdoom forum? I want to ask someone if I can use their assets and I can't find any other way to contact them,

>>5561853
monster has a maximum attack range, maybe 512 or 640
monster shoots projectile
projectile is low gravity maybe 0.1 or 0.05
before the first frame the projectile gives itself a "bump up" with a vertical velocity boost, then goes to idle animation for looping. That way the monster doesnt have to account for vertical aim.

For stone imps in this case their melee-try range would probably be at least what a revenant has so that they wont try to keep stoning you up close. For a stone the speed would be 15 but the gravity would be increased too, id have to play with it. The damage would probably be 3 dice just like other imps..

I did this before with regular pinkies and it was amazing, I gave them a recoil boost when they attack so that they press in to do the bite. This gets them thrown off of ledges sometimes. So being able to shoot a fireball from below is a big help to keep them relevant (and make a pit full of pinkies a bigger danger). Those fireballs were slow but they did 6 dice as punishment for being a dunce and getting hit by them.

>>5561895
Some people have disabled their PMs, for whatever reason. Suppose you could always ask them on the thread.

>>5561619
>Doom95
lol. i used to play with it all the time for convenience though, back in the day.

>>5561765
Voxels can be rendered as pixels, cubes, tiny rabbits. They themselves are just points in space though.

>>5558560
Any of you anons got Caribbean: Life's a Beach?

>>5561389
>hexen 2 in Idtech 2 and not Quake
i get what they're going for but its still quake engine not an idtech engine for Hexen 2

>>5561906
Oh no I just found out that my account is too new for that.

>want to ask for permission via PM before posting mod
>can't use PM until I made a post
This is a deadlock.
I don't want to shitpost until I get enough posts but I also don't want to necrobump the old thread from a year ago where said asset was posted.

I'll find some other way to ask the dude, thank you!

>>5561837
with all these differences, has anyone thought of reporting it to kaiser?

>>5561931
Just go make a comment in a thread about some game or wad or something.

>>5561931
Compliment someone on the forums! Make a good first impression.

What configs should I use to make this fog not look like ass?
I'm using gzdoom, the map was generated with oblige.

>>5561926
Thats how Graf should handle it.

>>5561929
Its in OP's mega

>>5561943
> you get the phone call at 4am. By 5:30 you're in the secret installation
Yeahh, about that, I think im gonna call in sick today, whatever problems they got down there at the installation I think today is the perfect day to call in sick.
The Enforcers can handle it, ive seen what they're packing.

Ok folks, whats the best brutal doom version and why

>>5561951
thanks

>>5561958
Someone said awhile back that version 17 or 19 was the last good version before it went so horribly wrong.

>>5561958
newest one that's about to come out

>mfw when Dead Simple

I'm liking Doom 2

>>5561619
elaborate what makes skulltag better than zandronum, please

>>5561958
which ever one is corrupted and doesn't work forcing you to play vanilla instead.

>>5561723
>>5561632
>>5561619
Zdaemon is objectively better than Call of doomy zandronum bullshit

>>5561930
there's this quote from romero where he says doomguy is not only you but the less you know about him, the more you get to be in his shoes
is there an actual source of him saying this?

>>5561989
hahahahaahahah
pictures taken before disaster

>>5561947
Go in the menus and turn fog off entirely

>>5562018
Doom 2 isn't bad thoroughly, just very mixed.
I think there's enough good levels in there that it's worth playing.

HAH! I expected you guys to do that!

Episode 1 is pretty rough on Hard, I wonder how it'll escalate in the next ones?

Finally beat map20. It only gets worse from here doesn't it?

>>5562015

How's Death Wish run in the new Blood remaster?

>>5560632
-> >>5559702

>>5562039
desu even the "bad" levels don't bother me. doom is pretty fun regardless. hard to fuck up imo.

>>5562092
Kinda true, though I tend to lose a lot of steam at Map 12, because it's such a dull map, followed by a dozen other maps I also think are dull, and it's a jarring shift from how Map 11 was really good, and the levels before were mostly good or decent.
On the other hand, some of my favorite maps come later.

>>5561351
already on my library, get mad faggot

>>5561351
nice falseflag

>>5561947
it looks like ass because it's clashing with the skybox

Are these sprites used anywhere?
https://youtu.be/NtAVdzIqcJ0?list=PLpyw6TzNLdNFcyJhz5Yw7jjCt43_VfDau
can't even download them anymore

>>5561947
Don't use the fog option when generating levels with Obaddon, it looks like ass more often than not

>>5562018
It doesn't get "bad" until map12. Even then there's still kino maps like map20.

>>5561545
>exaggerating on details and content.
Anon, I like you. I think you're a smart guy. But what you just said was stupid. How can anyone complain about having lots of detail and content? I don't want simple, square and ugly looking maps. I want nice and detailed, care put into every room and hallway.

>>5558775
Did he send out a tweet saying he's going to make everyone his bitch because if not I can't respect the man any longer.

>>5562126
I think you can still get most of those on R667.
Some of those are kinda shit though.

> LASER DRILL
my playlist put on eurobeat and it was very fitting

>>5561958
johnny

>>5562126
>swat shotgun
don't know
>western
also don't know
>spas
duke3d n64 shotgun with doomguy hand edited on
>blood shotgun
well, it's ripped from blood
>pump
I've seen it before, don't remember source
>Egosmasher
that's from Zen Dynamics
you could probably ask torm himself if he still has the sprites, though it's been 10 years

>>5562161
I don't know what exactly this is, but it's fucking cool.

>>5562015
fuck didn't meant to reply to that anon
>>5562067
thanks

>>5560632
If you save it doesn't feel as good beating the level, especially when its a particularly difficult level. I save at the beginning of every level.

>>5562161
getter robo doom when?

>>5562167
SWAT shotgun is the SPAS12 from the Half-Life HD pack.

Western Shotgun I think is one of Scuba Steve's old sprites.

Pump is the Duke 64 shotgun obviously.

Ego Smasher is the big cool shotgun from Zen Dynamics, but without the reloading mechanics or the sick looking animated belt-feed where you'd see how many shells you had left, and without the cool boom sound effect.

/arena/ died. Anyone here from it? New one pls

>>5562198
Sorry, I don't post on /vg/ because I'm not mentally ill.

it'll probably come back when splitgate or diabotical get released, and then die shortly after

>>5562209
People have been discussing a fair bit of Quake recently actually.

>>5562240
man, i'd really want to try some Q1 multiplay
but most of this thread is from yankee land, which is 150 ping land for me

I love quake single player, I only played one map, the artistical named one, of the map jamx and i cannot believe the size and awesomness of the level!

>>5562273
burger here, I wish this place hosted more game nights

>>5562293
I used to host a server that switch games every weekend. there was NOLF, Unreal (coop and dm), red faction, idtech1 games (hexen, doom, etc), and others... i don't really remember what all.
Someday I'd like to do is set up permanent servers for less-played games, and a convenient way to connect to them. Maybe if I win the lottery and have disposable time and income.

>>5562293
I'd be up for Friday/Saturday night game time

>>5562106
But why?

>>5562106
>not vampire the masquerade bloodlines
absolutely disgusting

>>5562504
because I can
>>5562512
>

>>5562161
Can anyone make something like this, but splitting and arcing like lightning?
So it would basically be like Heretics Gauntlets

Also INFINITE POWA