/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5548354
I love both I and II, they are simple games that don't try to be anything more than simple JRPGs.

>>5548354
Imagine enjoying any game in that series except 4. It's the only one that's not flat out bad.

What did she mean by this?

I enjoyed 1 and 2 very much on the GBA when I was little. I still have the carts kickin around somewhere.

>>5548354
My biggest gripe is the lack of proper item descriptions. I can deal with a stiff translation, just tell me what stuff does.

>>5548354
>starting any sentence with "imagine..."
Hello Mr. NPC.

>>5548370
Sara is being controlled by Jedah but sometimes she can regain her consciousness for a short moment.
First two lines is manipulated Sara talking, the "ok" line is a moment when good sara regained her consciousness.
Actually she explains that in the English translation too. Jap reads mostly the same except she screams in pain a lot.

>>5548547
*Judas
whoops, I can't read katakana

>>5548354
I don't even like this game but fuck off with your shitty /v/ threads

>>5548354
Fixed width fonts are fucking disgusting when used with alphabet based languages. They probably had to cut down a lot of dialog to make everything fit because their programmers couldn't be arsed to add a new font. Heard that's essentially what happened with Secret of Mana.

>>5548586
Two different things:
1 - Fixed width fonts affect how much text can be displayed onscreen at once.
2 - ROM size limitations, bank limitations, the lack of compression (LZ), the lack of dictionary entries that replace whole words, affect how much text can be physically present inside the ROM.

Atlus released SMT1 translated on phones not too long ago with a reasonably sized fixed width font. Terranigma had an unreasonably sized fixed width font (only room for 16 characters for each line)
The problem with this is (1) related, but is only a user inconvenience since the solution is to add lots of line breaks and break down a message that would use one box to multiple boxes the player has to spam the A button to get through. That problem plagued Pokemon R&B infamously and even with variable width fonts it was never really eliminated because localization writers love to make up bloat and can and will go over one message box.

The one thing (1) affects really is menu text. This is because menus spanned the entire screen and the SNES was too weak to generate variable width fonts for the entire screen (either the visual memory buffer was simply not there, or it caused massive lags if the game wasn't made from the ground up with it in mind)

Secret of Mana and likely Breath of Fire suffered from (2). Much of it was programmer incompetence, who would not tell the English writers they had a working compression (SoM), implement one for them repurposing existing control codes for kanji (BoF, Square was better on that front)

>imagine having an opinion with only 91 followers xDxDxD

Literally OP.

>>5548547
>except she screams in pain a lot.
hot

>>5548547
Just wanted to point out that the player named the mc homo.

The first half of BoF is enjoyable, but the ending fucking dragged.

>>5548354
what? shit's a banger

>>5548891
The best part of this game is how you go back to previously visted locations after getting a new key, morph or whatever. All in all, the game is a Dragon Quest clone (the Japanese subtitle even translates to Dragon Warrior), but an excellent one that did some things better than DQ did (see the shit about backtracking after you get a new key, etc.)

>>5548931
It got great tunes too.

Breath of Fire is trash

>>5548367
>I love simple JRPGs

>>5549678
I do actually. Sometimes I like to unwind with a nice straightforward fantasy adventure.

>>5548370
slut

>>5548368
That may be true on /vr/ but it's not true on /v/

>>5548745
Good observation.

>>5548354
Imagine being so dead inside you've gotta insult people for enjoying things.

"Ha ha, look at this faggot over here being happy!"

>>5548354
Best Breath of Fire game with the best soundtrack(also best RPG soundtrack ever based bunbun)

>>5548368
Cringey zoomer shoo shoo

>>5548367
2 was a huge mess.
Capcom had a lot of great ideas but it feels like that game was in development hell since all of those ideas were implemented poorly and you can see that in the shaman system being useless most of the time and the dragon system being completely neutered because they thought the Dragon Transformations in 1 were too overpowered.

And then there's the issues of it having so much useless filler.
Right when the story gets interesting withwhat finding out the church and shit the story starts wrapping up when it should have been arguably only 1/3 of the game until then or at least 1/2.

>>5548370
She's fighting mind control.
The translation is shit so this can confuse some people.

>>5548931
>the Japanese subtitle even translates to Dragon Warrior
"Ryuu no Senshi" has literally nothing to do with Dragon Quest you fucking idiot.

It's not a DQ clone at all, it doesn't have 1st person battles.
It's an evolution on Final Fantasy.

>>5548367
Who the fuck is the snake bitch? I completely forgot she was even a character in the game.

Also BoF2 has the worst Nina. She's the equivalent of the unlikeable Zelda from TP.

>all these posts hating on BoF2

>>5550804
>forgetting the best character

Any good retranslations both for SNES and GBA? I want to stream both games later and don't want people thinking they're shitty.

>>5551884
>Any good retranslations both for SNES and GBA?
No.
>I want to stream both games later and don't want people thinking they're shitty.
But they are.

>>5551884
https://www.romhacking.net/translations/1384/

>>5551954
>Bosch
>Lin

intothetrash.jpg

>>5551959

>>5551995
Come is tasty anon.

>tfw I really liked Dragon Quarter's concept
>play maybe 10 hours in first playthrough
>read up that you can restart the game and carry things over to help you out
>try to restart, botch it up
>game regularly starts with no carry over

Last time I touched that one. I'll try to figure it out again. I also remember it was fairly difficult in the sense that healing items were sparse or something like that.

>>5552021
I don't think you can screw up and start a fresh game accidentally. Are you sure you didn't mistake the fact your item list was emptied and levels reset as being a fresh save? Your item list never carries over, but everything else does (party XP, zenny, equipment, skills, fairy village progress, and anything in storage). If you game over and choose to restart, you also lose half of your party XP and zenny.

It's not that healing items are scarce, but you have no way of healing outside of items. No healing spells, or inns, so every HP you recover is bought and paid for by a limited pool of random drops and any money you make.

It's a great game, even if it's not that much of a BoF game (although I still think it did a good enough job with its story). You'r meant to do the SOL restore (go back to previous save with everything but item list, and levels/d-counter reset to that save), or SOL restart (same, but the game starts over), multiple times. More experienced players can easily do a no-SOL game, though.

>>5550804
>BoF2 has the worst Nina

My dick disagrees.

>>5550804
Bleu

>>5550775
>shaman system being useless most
Are you well nigga? Shadow Katt, Holy Jean are OP as fuck (550, single Target to Katt and 999, ALL TARGETS for Jean - it works on every enemy, including bosses and they COST NOTHING).
>dragon system being completely neutered
a 999 damage all attack that is instant somehow isn't the most powerful attack in the game - based retard, do you ever heard about W.Fruits?
>story is short
First act is for you to know what kind of guy Ryu is - honorable, loyal, corageous and strong - right until you kill Trout.
Second act is solving the misteries of the dying trees and finding out who the real enemy is - right until you Kill Aruhamel.
Third act is fighting against the church and St. Evan.

It's pretty well made and concise, actually. You get all the answers you need and all your friends get a arc - Bow stops being a thief; Katt learns to trust other people; Nina gets more confident in her powers; Stan faces his past; Jean is a piece of shit; Rand learns his mother actually really loved him in her own way; Spar is a robot; The only filler is SkyTwr - a whole dungeon just so you can pass a 10 meter long path in the mountains.

>Is there anything in here?

>>5552420
>falls apart whenever a character takes too much damage
>have to walk all the way through the final dungeon to the surface to refuse shamans

Yes, shaman system is useless

>>5552442
>Not wiping any enemy group in the game after 01 turn with Ryu and Empire SD, Katt and MeowST and Rand.
>Getting worried about HP with Cure 3, HelpBL, Extract easily available

So, is it hard being a retard? Can you operate a toilet? Does god give you people big dicks to compensate?

>>5552442
If your shamans are falling apart you need to git gud. You're either too low level, your tactics suck, or you're not healing or supplied adequately

>>5552462
>enemies gang up on and/or critical hit a character
>character leaves their Shaman state
>there's only one place in the game to refuse

It's poorly designed, deal with it.

>>5552739
This doesnt happen unless you duck at an easy rpg

>>5552420
I remember one of the things that bugged me about the story was how they reveal Patty is Ryu's long-lost sister, then literally toss her aside and never mention her again. They could had shed a little more light on Ryu's family, instead of wasting time on Jean's dumpster fire of a kingdom.

>>5553574
Excuse me, you seem to have confused Jean, the best character with the best arc, with Sten, a useless monkey who you shouldn't be forced to do a 1v1 boss battle with.

>>5551884
an attempt was made to do for SNES BoF1 what the retranslation did for BoF2. Didn't get too far, though.

>>5553574
Back when the GBA games were being announced I was hoping Capcom would add an extra dungeon or event that would do something with Patty, maybe even add her to the team since she's also part dragon.

>>5554536

>>5554536
>switching Luck and Fate

for what purpose

>>5554541
I forget the reason for the project stalling, but I think the author wasn't able to get around some memory issue? Only these three menu screens were shown off.

>>5548354
They're all good.
>>5548368
But 4 is probably the most recognized

>My Little Dragon Sis Can't Be This Morally Bankrupt

>>5554620
Most recognized? I thought 4 was fairly unpopular since it came out on the PS1 during its twilight days.

>>5548367
>>5554646
>Dem hips on Nina and Patty

man 90's leotards were awesome

>>5556807
4 is the most popular of the franchise, and by far, clueless little zoomie dicksucker

>>5557863
BoF1 Nina is some good shit if you like hip-hugging leotards.

>>5557920

>>5557924
BoF2 Nina is no slouch, though. The slip-dress? *chef's kiss*

>>5550804
Dude that Nina is by far the best one, how can you have so bad taste.

>>5556807
4 is the most popular but I really don’t understand why people would prefer it to the 3rd. The Only bad thing of BoF3 is the end which is sadly rushed, but the gameplay is so funnier in the 3rd. Dragon form sucks in BoF4.

>>5552452
>you people
>big dicks
whew, kind of an embarassing way to assert your mental superiority anon

>>5554620
I prefer 3 but 4 is probably the most gorgeous PS1 game

>>5557949
>but the gameplay is so funnier in the 3rd
3 is just a bog standard turn based RPG. 4 has better skill learning mechanics, let's you field all 6 party members and can do some crazy shit with the combo system.

>>5558193
Damn pretty

>>5557927
IT'S GONNA RIP! IT'S GONNA RIIIIIIP!!!

>>5554541
the niggest nig that ever nigged

whoever designed Tock Tower and everything that happens in it deserve a stroke

>>5553607
both are great. sten vs torubo may be the most epic moment of this game

i'm done with BoF
are 2 and 3 better? should i just skip to 4 and 5?

>>5561557
You're gonna hear a lot of people divided on 5. Some people hate it because it's different. These people are idiots.

Real heroes

>>5554536
>>5554541
>>5554546
gameplay video of the unfinished hack:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdLge5735vI

>>5563178
I don't remember 1 having as bad a translation as 2 did. Maybe a touch dry and it's been a while since I played it but I don't really recall it being all that awful.

>>5561557
I actually liked 1 a smidgen more than 2. Haven't played 4, but 5 is complete garbage.

Try 3

>>5548354
they have good gameplay
Unlike FF3/6 depending on how you count
(Great story, but the terrible gameplay meant I never bothered finishing it.)

>>5557920
>>5557924
>>5557924
>>5557920
I really like her costume, there's something so anime about it that I just can't get over it. There's no reference or historical or lore context, it's just all the stuff that the designer liked or though looked cool/cute.

>>5563390
>but 5 is complete garbage.
git good

>>5563178
Man Black Dragon and Premature Death are such good tracks. Game really frontloads its good theme music there.