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5555219 No.5555219 [Reply] [Original]

Celes should have been the FFVI cover girl. Terra just didn't leave as strong an emotional impact imo like the opera, just this sentimental raising orphans phooey. Celes was also a flawed, conflicted character with a redemption arc; Terra is a textbook purity sue with some kinda autism.

>> No.5555224
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5555224

and instead of either Terra or Celes they wind up going with this guy

>> No.5555227
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>>5555224
I'm ok with that. Almost always had Mog on my team.

>> No.5555240
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>>5555227
he's a charming little dude and tactically useful too. Umaro is useless but i like him too and Gogo is an amazing Easter-egg.

what's with this picture? seems like the scaling is way off.

>> No.5555247

>>5555240
It's three different Amano drawings stitched together, that's why. It's just the only one with Mog I had saved and I was too lazy to download a new image.

>> No.5555263
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>>5555219
I agree completely.

>> No.5555953

>>5555219
Terra is the main character though

>> No.5556641

>>5555219
Celes's conflicts are mostly external while Terra's conflicts are mostly internal, they're both valid, and their beauty is that they build each other up instead of tearing each other down. Did you even play the game?? wow

>> No.5556654

>>5555224
90s US marketing was stupid and weird.
>How can we get gamers interested in our RPG with a massive cast of colorful characters, a story unlike what they may have seen before, and a huge advancement from its last released in this country sequel?
>LOL THE CATBAT THING IS SOOOO BADASS LOOK AT HIM ZAP DUH MONSTAHS

>> No.5556664

>>5556654
>the catbat thing

His name is Mog, and he's one of the main characters. Did you even play the game? If they had the actual main character on the cover do you think the game would have sold nearly as well? Do you even realize how hard it was to sell a game with a woman protagonist (and an especially feminine one at that) in 1994? Yeah it sucks that Terra got cheated out of being on the cover of her own game, but let's not pretend there weren't bigger social forces at work here.

>> No.5556672

>>5556664
>Mog
>one of the main characters
He's a glorified token mascot at best, and as frivolous to the entire game as Umaro.

>> No.5556683

>>5556641
>wordsalad

>> No.5556690

>>5556664
of course the mentally ill tranny is going to rant about social justice where it's unnecessary

>> No.5556749

>>5556641
>>5556664
Have you not killed yourself yet?? wow

>> No.5556801

>>5556690
>>5556749
There is literally nothing wrong with being transgender.

>> No.5557716

>>5556801
But there is plenty wrong with being a mentally unstable attention whoring tripfag on an anonymous imageboard.

>> No.5557727

Celes is the main character of the 2nd half of the game. She's just as important to the story as Terra.

>> No.5557774

>>5557727
Until you get the new airship, then all form of "main character" is erased and the linear plot becomes a bunch of segregated story arcs for each character.

Even if not recruited, though, Terra still shows up to save everybody when Kefka dies and his tower starts crumbling, and she pretty much gets the last scene on the airship all to herself.

>> No.5557801

>>5555219

You know, narrative wise, Celes and Terra seem so similar. It'd make more sense to combine them.

>> No.5557831

Terra is the primary protagonist of World of Balance.
Celes is the primary protagonist of World of Ruin.
Anyone who claims one or the other is the "real" protagonist of the entire game is just trying to overexaggerate the importance of their waifu.

In case people still haven't noticed FFVI uses something called ensemble cast which spreads the narrative focus over multiple characters instead of everything being about a single protagonist. Why is this so hard understand?

>> No.5557878

>>5557831
Yes and Terra's world of balance and Celes's world of ruin is congruent with the conflicts they face; Terra's existential conflict rooted in her circumstances of birth, versus Celes's more worldly troubles stemming from her life choices. Terra has to wonder if she is capable of love, while Celes has to wonder if she is deserving of love. And while I can easily empathize with the inherent angst of being "not like other girls", the privileged but no more fortunate Celes is certainly relateable and, in fact, is completely necessary for Terra to find her own confidence within herself and vice versa. They Complete each other. God this game was brilliant.

>> No.5557880

The plot outright forgets about Terra pretty early into the game. She stops being important as other characters get introduced.

>> No.5557890
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>>5555219
Celes is cool

>> No.5558250

>>5557831
The only one waifufagging is that Sevenleaf faggot. OP pointed out that Celes' had a stronger presentation than Terra.
>>5557878
The writers couldn't even get it straight if her confusion was based on her brainwashing or her being half esper. You're reading in things that simply aren't there going as far as using a Marxist lens. Kill yourself, you fucking headcase.

>> No.5558261

FFVI was a fun game and all but the story was just okay. I don't really care who the main character is. For me it was about finding rare gear and unlocking cool abilities.

>> No.5558719

>>5556801
>literally
why do trannies never use that word properly?

>> No.5559130

>>5557880
>Spend part of the plot fighting the Empire over her
>Spend part of the plot chasing her after she transforms
>Spend part of the plot escorting her to the Sealed Gate to meet with the Espers
>Spend part of the plot with her playing diplomat to Thamasa's people
Yeah, they sure forgot about her.

>> No.5559210

>>5555219
>not knowing FFVI had two main characters
Terra for the first half
Celes for the second half

>> No.5559213

>>5558261
Found the Sabin and Cyan party mains

>> No.5559617

>>5555953
You can literally beat the game without her. Celes was the real protagonist all along.

>> No.5560179

>>5555219
Yeah to be honest Terra is pretty damn boring and everything people Cloud accuse of being in regards to being "emo"

>> No.5560234
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5560234

Everyone in this thread is wrong. The last character to be named in the credits (before "And You") is Strago, therefore Strago is the main character of FFVI

>> No.5560356
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5560356

>>5560234
Clearly Magus is named after Strago. Magus is the main character.

>> No.5563051

>>5559213
Cyan is top five ff character

>> No.5563751

>>5557801
That actually makes a lot of sense. You can just say that Terra was a ruthless general under the slave crown as it's not as if we saw Celes be one.

Take off the crown, focus more on what she did before the crown got removed (as opposed to that one lame reference to her frying soldiers) and go from there. Leo's, Locke's and Kefka's relationship can all still work, even the opera might still work.

The Celes-Locke betrayal thing won't make sense anymore, but it's not like it ever did. Going with Square's rule of three girls, one character will need to be genderflipped though, so we'll need to swap Setzer for Daryl

>> No.5563756

>>5558250
>The writers couldn't even get it straight if her confusion was based on her brainwashing or her being half esper. You're reading in things that simply aren't there going as far as using a Marxist lens. Kill yourself, you fucking headcase.
While I don't necessarily agree with all of their points, what's the point of just taking everything the writers did at face value? There's no fun in that.

>> No.5563782

>>5555224
>some retard kupo faggot

that's just too bad, kupo.

>> No.5563784

>>5555227
>Mog
>more like Mong

the only non-retard moogle is Montblanc.

>> No.5566427

>>5556664
Oh boy, looks like the victimhood train has entered the station.

>> No.5569049

>>5555224
Could be worse.

>> No.5569315

>>5563756
What's the point of making shit up and pretend that's how it happened?

>> No.5569413

>>5557774
Thanks for spoiling the ending for me.

>> No.5569876

>>5555224
>>5555227
>>5556654
>>5563782
>>5569049
>t. not old enough to remember the commercial
why are zoomers even here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d15qmRzn2Pc

>> No.5572132
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5572132

>>5556641
>tfw I agree with a fucking tranny

>> No.5572134

>>5559213
Wow, you're right. I unironically used Sabin and Cyan the whole game because their moves were cool

>> No.5572154

Reminder Celes got raped and liked it. Also she is a traitor

>> No.5572179

I don't see why Celes is considered the main character of the World of Ruin. After she leaves the island she doesn't have a single scene ever again aside from the ending. She doesn't get any more exposure than any other character, you just start with her.

>> No.5572181

>>5572179
I don’t think anyone really considers her the main character of WoR. The developers themselves stated that they didn’t make any single character the main character

>> No.5572204

>>5572181
she's in most of the ending scenes (as a character that the devs know you will have).
>>5572179
I think it's pretty obvious why people consider Celes the main character of the WoR. You start with her and complete several areas before getting the airship. The rest of the story is entirely non-linear and there's no other character who takes the lead. So it falls to Celes by default.

>> No.5572210

>>5556654
It was distinctive and memorable and made it stand out from the rest to a kid browsing the videogame rental aisle at Blockbuster.