/vr/ - Retro Games

>>552530
That's nice, OP. But unfortunately all these threads have a completely predictable ending.

>most of /vr/ has never heard of this game because 90% pleb Nintendo/Square dickriders
>one 30 yo manchild posts comment "Oh kewl I played dat wen I wuz 5 years owld"
>/v/ trolls start an age war with him
>thread goes to shit in 10 posts

>>552550
> nintendo/square dickriders

so unfortunate but true

Last trip to my local flea market I saw an NES BD cartridge.

Worth getting or not?

>>552560
>>552550
All patrician retro gamers know their Apple II/C64 stuff. Pleb gamers would be like Tensnake and his crew.

>>552550
First you complain that nobody knows Boulderdash, then you complain that anyone who does know it is a "manchild." Make up your mind. Or better yet, go back to >>>/v/.

>>552550
>>552560
Unfortunately, most casuals/US GAMERS types wont touch any retro games that weren't published by either Nintendo or Squaresoft

>>552592
What you emulator/eBay kids don't seem to understand is that people didn't own all systems in the 80s. I had a C64 but no Apple, and for somebody else it was the other way around.

>>552657
>calling people kids
>being a child yourself
Pick both

>>552635
That wasn't the point I was getting at

>>552635
Boulder Dash isn't that obscure of a game. There have been various remakes on newer systems and First Star claims they still make money from it.

The original game would probably be more obscure if it didn't have console ports.

>>552732
I agree there. Maniac Mansion might be not as well-known had it also not been on a console.

>>552689
Fuck you I'm 34

>>552949
The level of maturity displayed in your posts indicates otherwise

>>552530
Boulder Dash, Archon, and Lode Runner. Three 8-bit staples all ported to the NES and ruined by being given the cutesy Japanese treatment.

The Atari version is the overall best since it's the original and the others are just ports, but I have a sentimental attachment to the PC one.

>not Supaplex

get on my level fags

>NES Boulder Dash is 256k
>computer versions are like 20k
The fuck?

>>553357
Have you compared them? The NES port was made 5 years after the computer ones, an eternity in technology terms, so it has substantially enhanced sound, music, cutscenes, and other bits.

It would not have been acceptable to still have 1983-level sound and graphics in 1990.

>>553357
ROM size is dictated by its physical media.

>>553372
but then again you could argue that NES Lode Runner was made only a year after the computer originals and looks and sounds leagues more advanced

>>553381
Ah that's true. You have to keep in mind that LR was originally an Apple II game and it was ported verbatim to C64, Atari 800, and other platforms without any improvement for the hardware of those machines.

NES Lode Runner got the Japan treatment which is why it has cutesy sprites and music. Also NES code is generally more compact than on the C64 or Atari, thus you can get a more complex game in less space.

>>553387
>Also NES code is generally more compact than on the C64 or Atari, thus you can get a more complex game in less space
Elaborate?

>>552689
It's really easy for some kid today to emulate games or buy shit on eBay and then act all high and mighty about it. But people who were actually around at the time (like me) didn't own all systems, and didn't play everything. Calling them "retro" is also a dead giveaway of being too young to have used the systems when they were relevant.

>>552949
He wasn't talking to you. Pay more attention.

>>553392
Scrolling the screen on the NES is cake compared to how it works on any of the other platforms in OP pic and with all the memory space saved, there's more room for music and stuff like that. That and it takes less code to bank cartridges ROMs than load a disk file, although an early game like LR is only 20k and doesn't have any banking.

>>553395
>It's really easy for some kid today to emulate games or buy shit on eBay and then act all high and mighty about it. But people who were actually around at the time (like me) didn't own all systems, and didn't play everything. Calling them "retro" is also a dead giveaway of being too young to have used the systems when they were relevant

>>553406
For example, SMB is a quite huge game for only 40k

>>553410
Not understanding what trolling means is also an indication of not being very old.

>>553426
Pot, kettle, black

>>553431
At what point have I in any way implied that I'm not old enough to have owned a C64? What reason is there to question such a statement in the first place? Do you think the Internet is populated exclusively by teenagers?

>>553437
1. The fact that you call everyone "kids". Dead giveaway you're one yourself.
2. The overall low IQ trolling you've posted indicates you're most likely still in HS

>>553412
SMB was only 40k?
Jesus fuck, that's some chink magic if I ever saw some.

>>553441
Yes...32k of code and 8k of graphics data, which is the maximum possible size of an NES game without banking

>>553440
>1. The fact that you call everyone "kids". Dead giveaway you're one yourself.
That makes no sense.

>2. The overall low IQ trolling you've posted indicates you're most likely still in HS
I have not trolled anywhere nor displayed any low IQ.

Please try harder.

>>553443
\ o /

>>553445
>That makes no sense
Projecting yourself onto others
>I have not trolled anywhere nor displayed any low IQ
Every post you make is a bigger and bigger troll

>>553445
>I have not trolled
Silly you, did you forget that nowadays "trolling" is just disagreeing with the other person?

>>553437
>At what point have I in any way implied that I'm not old enough to have owned a C64?

Are we talking owning one in the 80s or just owning one in general. Because what if you bought a C64 on Ebay right now? Then you own one without having done so in the 80s.

>>553453
WHEN THE GODDAMN THING WAS RELEVANT, YOU STUPID KID

>>553450
>Projecting yourself onto others
No, I was just indicating that you are not making any sense.

>Every post you make is a bigger and bigger troll
How would you know, when you don't even understand what trolling is?

>>553451
>>553445
>samefagging to look like multiple people agree with you
The ultimate sign of having lost the argument

>>553457
Calling out samefag where there is none is a bigger sign of having lost the argument.

>>553458
Please turn off Caps Lock before you have a stroke

>>553459
note he doesn't deny samefagging

>>552560
>>553357
>>553457
Stop this samefagging at once.

>>553461
I've seen this troll before. He calls anyone who disagrees with him "kids" or "stupid kids". Saw him on a /q/ thread as well going "Hurr how dare these dumb fucking kids make DC threads on /vr/ that shit isn't retro mods plz ban anyone born after the 80s from the board"

Dear god, what happened to my thread? 70% of the posts in here are /v/-level shit that have nothing to do with Boulder Dash.

>>553464
"He's trolling!"
"He's samefagging!"
"I'd recognize his posts anywhere, even on a different board!"

I can't wait to see what you'll come up with next.

What's the reason behind this tantrum anyway? What point are you trying to make?

>>553468
/vr/ is turning to shit. It was fun while it lasted.

>>553468
See >>552550

>>553469
Because you are a pathetic troll who's posting style makes you instantly recognizable

>>553468
I told you; when you make threads about obscure computer games, /vr/ isn't interested in them and instead just shits the thing up.

Try instead making a Zelda General Thread and it would get 350 replies

>>553473
Don't give up! Help by reporting posts that isn't fit to /vr/ standards!

>>553479
There is no trolling going on (you don't know what it means anyway), and you're confusing me with someone else.

>>553484
If you and the guy you're talking to aren't interested in the thread subject and just want to shitpost, go back to /v/ and stay there

>>553486
"Back" implies I came from /v/, which I didn't.

And if you want to talk about shitposting, look no further than >>552592.

>>553494

Under what warped logic does >>552592 qualify as shitposting?

I have only played NES and Gameboy ports of Boulder Dash as well as Boulder Dash EX for GBA and I like them. Boulder Dash: Rocks for DS is meh. Boulder Dash's gameplay formula never gets old (with the proper upgrades per generation of course).

It's interesting the fact that Boulder Dash's original creator wasn't even a videogame designer, just like the designer of Tetris.
http://www.boulder-dash.nl/

>>553502
It's obviously some kid acting hard because he has an emulator or bought something off eBay. He's a "retro gamer" now, unlike those plebs who owned only a C64, or only an Apple II, or only some other system.

>>552957
Implying this is a bad thing. Unless you prefer a version of the game which looks shittier.

>>553523
No, absolutely not. Peter Liepa had a degree in control theory and other such stuff. Dude sounds like a real egghead.

"For the most part, I was extremely satisfied with how the game turned out. Not only was it fun, but it contained the full range of human emotions: greed (hunting for diamonds), violence and sadism (smashing helpless creatures with rocks), OCD (wanting to clean all the dirt from a cave), and even humor (if you think being crushed by a rock is funny). If I could go back and do it all again, I probably wouldn't change a thing except, oh, maybe make the levels a bit bigger."

>>553525
>It's obviously some kid acting hard because he has an emulator or bought something off eBay
Your point being...?
>unlike those plebs who owned only a C64, or only an Apple II, or only some other system
Please reread the post before you troll. He said that patrician retro gamers appreciate 8-bit computer stuff while plebs are guys that only like Zelda or whatever.

It didn't take long for /vr/ to turn into /v/. Good job, faggots.

>>553532
And that...

"I didn't make any more games because of not liking the systems that came after [the Atari 400]. A lot of people loved the C64, but I didn't care for it myself. And the IBM PC was much worse. The Amiga seemed great and I could have done a lot of neat things on there, but I wasn't sure how much money I could make programming for it. Game sales back then were unpredictable and went in boom-and-bust cycles. PCs weren't any good for gaming until the mid-90s and by that point I thought I'd been out of the business too long to get back into it."

>>553539
I have no clue whatsoever what this guy is trying to argue. He rambles some nonsense about kids and emulators and "people didn't own every system in the 80s"

>>553539
>Please reread the post before you troll.
Please learn what a troll is.

>He said that patrician retro gamers appreciate 8-bit computer stuff while plebs are guys that only like Zelda or whatever.
Not everyone grew up with a computer.

>>553551
The point is quite obviously that there is a vast difference between growing up in the 80s and playing with emulators in 2013.

Oh sweet, Boulder Dash, had totally forgotten about this game. Download the NES rom now!

>>553558
>Not everyone grew up with a computer
When was it alleged that everyone did?

Surprised no-one's bought up the 2600 port. Took 12 years to make.

http://www.gamegavel.com/reviews/2012/06/25/first-licensed-atari-2600-release-in-over-20-years/

>>553564
Nice evasive maneuver.

>>553527
I rather dislike NES Archon and Lode Runner and prefer the clean starkness of the original computer versions

>>553567
I do so wish this underage numskull could get his point across

>>553575
FOR THE LAST FUCKING TIME, LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU

IT IS COMPLETELY STUPID TO SAY THAT YOU ARE A PLEB IF YOU DIDN'T PLAY APPLE II OR WHATEVER GAMES BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAD THEM AT THE TIME

NOW DO YOU GET THAT, YOU UNDERAGE NUMSKULL?

>>553576
>BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE HAD THEM AT THE TIME

I didn't say they did

>>553580
THAT IS CORRECT, YOU MORON. NOT EVERYONE DID. YOU ARE MAKING THE TOTALLY ASININE /V/-LEVEL ACCUSATION THAT EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T OWN AN APPLE OR COMMODORE MACHINE IN THE 80s IS A PLEB NITWIT.

>>553585
>YOU ARE MAKING THE TOTALLY ASININE /V/-LEVEL ACCUSATION THAT EVERYONE WHO DIDN'T OWN AN APPLE OR COMMODORE MACHINE IN THE 80s IS A PLEB NITWIT

I never said they were plebs for not owning one

>>553589
Yes you did, you stupid flaming faggot. Go back to where you (at least I assume you) said "All patrician retro gamers know their Apple II/C64 stuff".

>>553591
>Go back to where you (at least I assume you) said "All patrician retro gamers know their Apple II/C64 stuff"

facepalm.jpg

I meant that in the context of the present day in /vr/, not in 1985 or whatever time frame you're talking of.

>>553585
Owning a retro computer in 1982 =/= Calling yourself a "retro gamer" and having a knowledge of 80's computers as well as Nintendo console stuff.

You've just interpreted the original post incorrectly. Please calm down.

>>553595
>Owning a retro computer in 1982 =/= Calling yourself a "retro gamer"

A retro gamer is someone who plays and enjoys retro games. There is no distinction there between being born in 1982 and being born in 1992.

>>553595
I should've just said "Owning a computer in 1982".

>>552957
How was Lode Runner ruined by that?