/vr/ - Retro Games

Pretty sure Silent Hill did it. Also Vagrant Story.

terracon, threads of fate, omegaboost

>>5531215
I honestly feel like Spyro was a series that took every ounce of the ps1 and put it to use. Insomniac achieved fluid gameplay and a pleasing art style all with the ps1.

games that utilized pre-rendered backgrounds were neat, and acceptable at the time— titles that went full out 3D with large open spaces (think twisted metal) were definitely taking full advantage of the system. gun fire, particle effects, and carnage. Mind there are definitely hickups here and there. This could be said about most titles from this era. Games today are not as optimized as ones from the 90s. Programmers from this era do not share the same concerns about hardware limitations like in the past— this has lead to sloppy coding and inefficient use of resources.

Alien Resurrection has amazing graphics and performance for a PS1 game.

Crash bandicoot
Spyro
Silent hill

>>5531407
that one may have utilized the hardware a little too well

>>5531407
>>5531437
fuck this looks good
like modern "retro-shooter"

>>5531215
I'd actually put DC1 over 2 considering it has fully 3D environments, both are great games but the first one is more technically impressive IMO.

>>5531437
I remember hearing people complain about Duke Nukem 64's controls because they weren't Goldeneye's controls.

But anyone who wasn't shit at Goldeneye used 1.2 controls, anyways

>>5531215
Tekken 3 desu

Gran Turismo 2, and in fact most Gran Turismos did it very well.

>>5531421
Why does everyone always mention Silent Hill?
It has one of the worst draw distances ever, and hides it cleverly.

Games that really impress on the PSX would be
>vagrant story, for looking so damned impressive
>Dino Crisis 2, for having such fast paced combat and smooth controls snd no frame rate drops, ever
>Twisted Metal 2 for having a huge draw distance, and allowing up to 9 bots in certain levels with you.
>Final Fantasy 9, for looking so damned good.

SH did one cheap trick, and everuone "oohs" and "aahs"

>>5531215
>What PS1 games do you think that utilized the hardware to its fullest
Silent Hill really embraced the hardware and used its limitations to its advantage.

>>5531569
>Why does everyone always mention Silent Hill?
>It has one of the worst draw distances ever, and hides it cleverly.
You are obviously extremely ignorant. Silent Hill 1 is a technological marvel and it's no less than wizardry that team Silent even made it run on the PS1

Urban Chaos

Parasit Eve 2's opening scene where you can walk back and forth through an FMV was pretty rad. I've never played another game that did it.

>>5533951
Fear effect 1 and 2 used almost exclusively FMV backgrounds

Mediocre games tho

>>5533943
>polygons and limbs start disappearing when fighting multiple wildcats
I'd say Urban Chaos utilized the PS1 hardware inefficiently.

>>5531407
>>5531437
Also, you could actually get mouse look with the PS1 mouse which is pretty sweet.

>>5534157
I bet it had mouse acceleration, downplaying the usefulness of mouselook.

Never played Dino Crisis before. Should I start with the first one? Are there any different versions I should be aware about?

>>5536134
The first one's just filled with so many keys and switches and figerering out crap puzzles it's 4esident evil puzzles on steroids the second game is arcadey but still fun
We don't talk about Dino crisis 3 here for good reason

>>5536147
So which one would you recommend? Also do the stories follow each other?

>>5536173
Play 1, then play 2. There are PC ports available, they work well on modern systems, but don't have mouse support.

>>5536173
That guy seemed to have a stroke in his post
Play 1 and 2, forget about 3
Dino Crises 1 and 2 are connected story-wise, Dino Crises 3 does it’s own weird fucking thing.

RE and SH were smart in using flat images rather than models for everything.

Wing Commander IV

I think it was 8 disks. All live action video. You played like a Tell Tale game making choices in a branching fully acted game.

Gameplay was your standard high quality Wing Commander space dog fighting.

>>5536468
movies are not games anon

>>5536470
>Gameplay was your standard high quality Wing Commander space dog fighting.
Reading can change your life.

>>5536476
OP said:
> utilized the hardware to its fullest
I don't think pic related pushed the PS1 even at 20%

Understanding the thread theme can really save your life.

>>5536483

It utilized discs' ability to play DVD quality video, something you couldn't do before on consoles.

They also invested in real actors (Mark Hamill) and real writers.

It's a cool concept, but apparently cost too much.

Cut scenes in WC IV are still more real looking than anything today lol.

>>5536483
>I don't think pic related pushed the PS1 even at 20%

That is nonsense

>>5536548
It's called Motion Decoder (MDEC) chip and the PS1 had it, a chip dedicated to FMV playback
If you seriously think WC4 pushed the limits of the PS1 then perhaps you haven't seen any other game on the system.

e.g. SoulReaver utilized streaming data from the disc and there were no loading between the stages.
That shit is pushing the hardware,
putting a bunch of video files on the disk and calling the default system API functions to play them, is not.

>>5536648
you are kidding right? Star Fox 1 had more things going on than this bland empty thing

>>5531407
Alien trilogy was my favourite but the difference between the two in graphics is night and day.

>>5536671
You are fucking retarded if you believe that. You are beyond help.

>>5536836
Not him but the lack of assets on screen at one time is really really lack luster. Wouldn't say it pushed the hardware anywhere near it's limits.

>>5536836
Of course I believe Star Fox offers more things to the table visually, than Wing Commander 4.
>movies don't count, compare the gameplay
If you believe otherwise then I'm sorry, you have severe brain damage

>>5536836
>>5536648
>>5536476
>>5536468
I don't understand, what makes you think that WCIV pushed the console to its limits?

>>5531217
>Vagrant Story
This.

>>5536836
This is what WC4 offers visually,
It's just bland, and empty.
Just accept it and stop being so salty
I am not bashing your favorite game, and not talking about story/gameplay.

WC4 just doesn't push any limits, that's all.

>>5536876
>>5536886
You are retarded. Like legit retarded.

>>5536886
Either trolling or spazz

>>5536886
Uh...can only speak for PC version, but when it came out all but high end setups had real problems running this game at a stable frame rate, especially in SVGA and during the surface missions.
The recommended specs of some magazines went all the way up to a P1-150.
No idea how much of a downgrade the PS version is, but I can imagine a lot.

>>5531230
Insomniac wrings everything out of every Sony gen, it's their specialty

>>5531215

Soul Reaver had not the best graphics but I remember it not having any load times besides one when booting the game.

>>5531437
This was my favorite obscure game review quote until that fat brit guy made that video and now every fag knows this, reee

>>5531407
Your average "retro" FPS on Steam these days

>>5531215
probably FF VIII but it had drawn backgrounds like that one in Dino Crisis. funnily enough, this DC screenshot looks like it's straight out of Balamb Garden's training facility and even has that T-Rex.

>>5531509
>But anyone who wasn't shit at Goldeneye used 1.2 controls, anyways

Nah man everyone used the 1.1 control scheme. Pretty much no one used 1.2 until Perfect Dark came out and attracted players who were more FPS minded and they proved that 1.2 was objectively superior

>>5536483
>OP said:
my reply was to this post >>5536470 which made a claim that was wrong. Reading can change your life retard.

>>5537036
They also needed more fog than Superman 64

>>5537185
Nonetheless the game is a technical achievement

>>5531215
I bought this one game Hashiriya, I think the speed is crazy for an old PS1 game(@2:52)
https://youtu.be/oBScznWz9S8

>>5537185
I remember being bothered about the fog.

>>5531407
I know, I bought a mouse specifically for it.
>>5536834
I absolutely love Trilogy, more than Resurrection. I got it for all 3 platforms.

>>5536834
They are 4 years apart you fucknugget

>>5537231
>weeb shit

like fucking pottery

>>5537376
You are in the wrong board

>>5537405
you have to go back

>>5537129
wrong, turok popularized that setup thats why the control options on southpark are either
Browneye
or Too Rock

>>5537329
Fren
>>5537363
Not fren

>>5531215
Einhander. Crash Bandicoot-style streaming geometry, except running at 60fps.

>>5538853
fug u D:

>>5531215
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a2io1ao57E

>>5531407
>>5537329
Bit of a noob but how is alien resurrection so much better looking and smoother?

>>5539375
It was made 4 years later and by the wizards that are Argonaut, who also developed Star Fox and the Super FX chip. Fun fact, they also made the 1984 Alien computer game, which is a cool little game.

>>5539375
>>5539420
It also uses polygons instead of sprites, which makes it smoother.

>>5539420
Cheers. I wish someone would remake trilogy but it's not a big enough game.

>>5536671
Star Fox 1 also ran at 1FPS LMAO!

>>5531215
MegaMan legends and Misadventures of Tronn Bonne.

>>5536886
Wow u dumb

>>5540027
Eh, didn’t really push the system’s limits. It’s more of a timeless artstyle.

I guess the first game had some impressive draw distances, but Spyro still beats it with further draw distance and complex geometry.

>>5536134
Dino Crisis 1 is pure survival horror kino. Slow, methodical, conservative. Start with it. It's a blast if you're looking for something that makes you use your head to survive and puts you on edge all the time. Plus plenty of routes for you to go through if you want to replay it. Dino Crisis 2 is more arcadey. It's fun and packed with action but not really what to expect from the survival horror genre. If you have played Deep Fear it's more akin to it.

>>5531215
>What PS1 games do you think that utilized the hardware to its fullest
Gran Tourismo 2.

>>5536241
>There are PC ports available
I hate to be that guy, but could someone point me in the direction of where to find this. I've looked everwhere, or am just being stupid

>>5542623
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dino-Crisis-PC-Version-Raritat-BIG-BOX-Erstausgabe-Sammler-mit-Handbuch-usw/362618532395?epid=167043538&hash=item546dbfb22b:g:yUEAAOSwywRaOi4U

>>5542591
>realistic racers
its shit