/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5525654
The games are fantastic. But they really should have used DVDs as the storage media and have it play video DVDs as well. The PS2 beat the shit out of it on those 2 points. An internal hard drive option would have been nice too.

The controller and the games; also the machine in general. I love the Dreamcast; but I donated my DC collection to goodwill recently when I needed to clean out some stuff at my parent's house. It's one of the few consoles I played so much that I don't mind emulating. The 'dreamcast feeling' is something I'll always have with me; it helps that a large amount of its best titles are on the 360/Xbone now.

>>5525728
>but I donated my DC collection to goodwill recently when I needed to clean out some stuff at my parent's house.
Which one?

>>5525654
>What're you favourite things about this wonderful waste of a good thing?
The fact that Ryuichi Sakamoto designed the boot up sound

>>5525701
DVD as a medium wasn't available outside of japan until 1997, and even then, wasn't popular because most films weren't originally getting put on it because it was expensive.
DVD players in '97 were anywhere from around $600 USD to over $1000 USD.
In 1998, when the DC finally got mass produced for the intent of selling, CD was just coming down in price to where you could actually afford to buy a stack of them to do whatever you wanted to with them. The move to GD-ROM was an opportunity taken at a time when the future of gaming media was currently unknown.
PS2 came out in 2000, after DVD player prices alone had dropped below $300 for the average unit.

>>5525906
I agree, but it still hurt them.

>>5525906
That just shows the unfortunate timing of the Dreamcast's release more than anything.

>CD was just coming down in price to where you could actually afford to buy a stack of them to do whatever
Yeah like burn pirated games. Just when a lot of people were becoming internet savvy enough to do it themselves too, the poor thing never stood a chance.

>>5525654
I skipped DC back in the day. Today I love the DC because it has that arcade feel that sega is so famous for. Without typing out a huge explanation, take PSO for example. It's an mmorpg but it plays very arcade like. Combat would feel perfectly at home on an arcade cabinet. At first you think the aiming and camera is a bit janky, but as you play you realize it's part of the fun and skill learning to control it and "git gud". I don't think the game would be near as fun if it had a "good" camera.

I would have been pretty blown away to play a console online back in the day. I mean, I had PC and enjoyed halflife, CS, TFC and a few more online games, but to play on a console online would have been amazing.

I'm not the hugest fan of the controller, the part that holds the vmu hits my fingers, but the vmu was neat.

>>5525728
>I donated my DC collection to goodwill recently
That was dumb, you should have just gave it to some kid that was interested. Goodwill sells online, bringing no benefit to your local community. They also have predatory practices of paying the most vulnerable workers way below minimum wage. Seriously, you should look into their practices, it's shady as fuck and pretty detestable.

>>5525937
>but the vmu was neat
It was, but goddamn I hated changing those CR2032 batteries so often. Really pissed me off.

>>5525654
DC is a fantastic console and I have mine hooked up right now, but to pretend it would have done much more than what it did even if Sega was in good shape is extremely naive. It was cursed by being in the middle of the gen gap and even launch PS2 games completely blow it out of the water. Compare Madden 2001 vs NFL2K or imagine the DC running something like SSX. Fast forward not even a year and you have games like GTA3 or FFX that never would have been possible on the DC. Sega would have canned the DC anyway and had to rush out a new console just to not be in another Saturn style period of complete irrelevancy. The much more interesting scenario is if SoJ wasn't full of the dumbest fucking retards to ever run a business who intentionally tanked the company just because they got butthurt over whitu piggu actually being able to sell their product and let the American division run the company, which would have ended up with Sega forming a partnership with 1 of Microsoft, Sony, or Silicon Graphics depending at what point they're allowed to take over.

>>5525654
It's sixth gen, and all the games were polygonal ineptitude instead pixel mastery, but 2000 is a big round number so it's more vintage than the 2D handheld we had shortly after.

>2019
>people are realizing how damn good the DC was
>DC so good that the demand for it sky-rocketed
>in 2019
>all Capcom games are literally $175+
>all Sonic Team games are $90+
>emulating games are a pain in the dick
>standard DreamPi kit for online play is literally $90+
>accessories range from $50-$250
It's fucking ridiculous. Dreamcast is literally my #1 console of all time but being a collector is so god damn expensive. 2 years ago is was not like this at all...
At least the DC community is growing at a alarming rate. I was online on PSO, Q3A, and AFO the last couple of nights and there were over 40 players per private server which are new records. But still, it's more bad than it is good for some one trying to collect and even worse for some newfag just trying to get a feel of the DC experience.

>>5526028
Stop being a collector and have sex, or at least play video games.

>>5526028
>all Capcom games are literally $175+
Damn, now I don't feel so bad for paying $90 for RE: Code Veronica back in 2001.

Sonic Adventure is still my favorite Dreamcast game. I like literally everything about this game except for the fishing minigame

>>5526031
Ok Chad, explain to me how to be a complete pussy magnet and I'll give you my entire Dreamcast collection.

>>5526028

2019? I sold my DC collection on ebay for ridiculously high prices in 2014.

>>5526071
I said nothing about pussy.

>>5526028
Couldnt you just get a normal rasp pi and install dreampi os on it for cheap?

>>5526050
>paying $90 for RE: Code Veronica back in 2001.
>$90
>in 2001

>>5526073
That would be hilarious if it turned you you'd bought >>5525728
's collection from goodwill

>>5526074
Well I'm not a fag so wtf do you expect me to have sex with?
>>5526078
You'd still have to purchase a line voltage inducer and a pocket modem to get your Dreamcast going.

>>5526078
That is not the only computer capable of running an emulator.

>>5526086
How do you know if you haven't tried?

>>5526089

>>5525995
cringe

>>5526080
I'm from Canada, everything is expensive here.

>>5526098
That actually makes sense.

>>5526118
I think it was also because the Dreamcast was on it's way out at the time and some stores were over-pricing the games. It was the only new copy left in the city (at Radio Shack no less).

>>5526128
>Radio Shack
Well that's your first issue right there. Radio Shack sucks pallets of dicks. They literally over price everything. In 2007 I brought my Dreamcast over to them for some sick LED mods and they literally charged me $40 for 1 LED bulb replacement. Fuck 'em. I'm glad they went out of business.

>>5526145
>I'm glad they went out of business
They were great back in the 80s, but they slowly turned to shit.

>>5526146
>They were great back in the 80s
How old are you?

>>5526087
look up dreampi

>>5526150
What's that? I can't hear you.

>>5525654
My favorite thing is the memory card that can only hold nba 2k and nothing else

>>5525846
It was a few months ago, northern NY. A Sega Sports DC and a regular model, 5-6 controllers, bunch of games, bunch of VMUs, etc. Donated my Genesis and 32x stuff too. Hope someone's having fun with them.
>>5525942
Nothing stupid about helping out my parents. I actively tried to give them to someone local and had zero bites. I do not give a shit about goodwill's business practices and know first hand that they pay at least minimum wage since it's the literal law.

>>5526583
>literal law
So is unpaid or under minimum wage "internships" for the disabled and most vulnerable. I'm not trying to high horse you, but donating to local charity organizations usually helps your community more. Good on you for donating but Goodwill are fucking sleazy if you look into their practices.

>>5526028
Buy usbgdrom or Chinese clone gdemu and stop the collector retardation. You can sell 1 or 2 games to pay for it.

>>5526028
>but being a collector is so god damn expensive.
If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

>>5526150
>being astonished that people on /vr/ aren't zoomers
back to >>>/v/

>>5526636
>stop the collector retardation
Would you go to a vintage car museum and tell the owners "you spent HOW MUCH?! They're old cars retard, why would you preserve that 1971 Plymouth GTX?"

>>5526849
This

I spent $1,150 to complete my Sega Saturn collection but that's only because I recently received a 6 figure settlement from milk truck accident when I already make $68k a year. No kids, no wife. Thank god.

>>5525654
I really like how the shitty VMU is idolized by fanbois while the superior PS1 alternative is a footnote

>>5526628
fair enough; I was just trying to slim all my shit left at my folks down to a single plastic bin. Frankly, I don't know where they donated them, I was only home for a few days; I assumed goodwill but could be wrong. Anyway I hope someone is enjoying them. My buddy that worked at goodwill for a few years wasn't special needs or anything so it was a pretty normal retail gig for him.

>>5525909
>>5525934
It's not just that, though.
The original design for the DC was to have a VooDoo 2 card equivalent in it, but when VooDoo leaked that they were going to have hardware in a not yet announced consosle (people knew a console was coming, but no one really knew anything about the Dreamcast yet until the ad aired) Sega broke their contract with VooDoo and had to rework the hardware aspect of the DC. Not only that, but breaking their contract with VooDoo ended up costing them quite a pretty penny at the time.

The timing was horrible and a lot of bad decisions were made. Had it actually featured the VooDoo 2 card or whatever actual stuff they'd use, it'd be a much more powerful system than what we actually got. But SoJ didn't want people knowing anything til its release because it was supposed to be a huge surprise.

>>5526963
What was superior about the ps1 thing that only worked with like two games?

>>5526908

nice one

>>5527271
Literally everything about it except it wasn't used for much. And it runs for more than a few minutes off a single battery.

>>5526028

stop giving a shit about being a collector and just download ISOs of whatever you want

>>5526925
>Sega Saturn collection
>No kids, no wife

I think I'm beginning to see a pattern...

>>5526925
>I spent $1,150 for PDS and shockingly have never even kissed a girl

>>5525728
>I donated my DC collection
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo man, I wanted that

>>5526028
>all Sonic Team games are $90+
No way
I should sell my Sonic Adventure

For such a short lifespan, it sure was full of excellent games.

I got one in 2010, and at the time, it was cheap as shit to get sealed controllers, VMUs and games.

I love how there's so many things you can mod it with. Like the USB-GDROM/GDEMU, fan mods, DCHDMI, the power LED.

>>5525654
does anyone have a list with the info for each DC games native resolution?

>>5525654
>if sega hadn't fucked up so hard

It's not SEGA who fucked up. It YOU who fucked up. Things would have been different if you wouldn't have had your head neck deep in Sony's asshole. SEGA released a ton of awesome games during the nineties. You just didn't buy them.

>>5531937
I kinda agree with this. At the moment PlayStation seemed like the cool system but Sega ultimately takes the cake at the end.

>>5525654
Shenmue. May 3 be ok.

>>5534537
What the actual fuck? I was literally 2 seconds away from bumping the thread with a Shenmue reference. Life is weird dude.

>>5534537
I appreciate Shenmue for how it let Yakuza begin to exist. It's like Proto-Yakuza in gameplay.

>>5534575
I like Shenmue more than Yakuza. Yakuza is to goofy for me and Shenmue is one of the few games with accurate Martial Arts and good combat

>>5525934
Can't really blame the timing when Sega was so far down the grave that they themselves dug with Saturn that nothing was going to get them out of it.

Is omikron any good?

>>5531937
OPs parents decision to purchase a PS3 as his first console had nothing to do with Segas failures. And, in fact, he bought many Sega games for it so he actually supported Sega.

>>5535320
>PS3
>first console
The underage board is that way >>>/v/