/vr/ - Retro Games

Because it's a fighting game.

Yu Suzuki is a mad man

>>5507579
>I suck at the game
>This means the game sucks
What did he mean by this?

>>5507579
It's not the game, it's you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Db56ESW0Uo

>>5507579
lmao

>>5507581
That is not a fucking reason unless you want to pretend like this is /v/.

>>5507592
This doesn't prove anything faggot. Speed isn't even a factor, mechanics are unbearable, and the graphics are always a generation behind.

I never understood the love for this game. Tekken was cooler, sounded better and the controls were slightly more involving. Virtua fighter only had guard, punch and kick which was really lame. All of the characters felt floaty and loose and it didn't reward you with learning anything about how to play. You could quite easily button bash your way through it with no satisfaction or reward

>>5507579
It doesn't. You do. This is a true fighting game for pro players.

>>5509438
It's a game you must understand the intricacies of to have fun with. Tekken is popular simply because it's button mash friendly.

>>5507613
The tech was the best of it's time. VF, VF2 and VF3 were top of the line at their release. I remember seeing that infamous VF3 demo video at E3 1996, blew me away. At the time there was nothing like it, not even on high end gaming PCs with the first 3D accelerators.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTBeGAhk79I
Here, the video was identical to this one from AOU '96

Gameplaywise it's also a joy to play. More tactical than just smashing buttons.

>>5507609
fighters are a fucking pointless waste of time, kill yourself

>>5509471
All video games are a fucking pointless(but fun) waste of time, so after you fgt

>>5507579
a fighting game with 3 buttons
you can only do so much with only 3 buttons

>>5509667
Oh boy you have no idea

Virtua Fighter 2 was fantastic

Jacky > all

Virtua Fighter 1 runs at 30fps, so all the animation was made for this framerate. So it is a slower paced game, which does give you a little more time to think about moves. But it is a competent fighter. The Saturn port isn;t as bad as people say. Virtua Fighter Remix is interesting because it uses the VF2 Saturn engine. The 32x port is also good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDbn9lF7k8Y&t=10s

Virtua Fighter 2 is a much better game though, it runs at 60fps, and is much faster and feels more refined.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrFDojjObE

The Xbox 360 port (also on Xbox One BC) is the best way to play Virtua Fighter 2. It's the Model 2 original ported/ emulated by M2. The definitive home port . But the Saturn version is still great for the extra modes. PC win95 is a port of the Saturn game but with the option to use arcade models. Plus there is also Virtua Fighter Kids.

Virtua Fighter 3 is pretty awesome too, with its varied areas and fighting surfaces and the dodge move that lets you move around in 3D. The Saturn kinda got a small taste of VF3 with Fighters Mega Mix. Fighters Mega Mix does have the VF3 move set and dodge move, the lady from Virtua Cop has Aoi's moves from VF3. But the game does use the Fighting Vipers engine, and does have a different feel. Virtua Fighter 3 was only ever ported to the Sega Dreamcast as Virtua Fighter 3: TB. It still remains a Dreamcast exclusive. It didn't even end up as a Windows port, like many other Dreamcast games did. You either emulate the Model 3 version (or find an arcade board), or play the Dreamcast port.

There has never been a bad Virtua Fighter game, IMO. Maybe except for the Genesis/ Mega Drive port of 2. Or those animated Game Gear games? But 4 is awesome and so is VF5. I remeber when Sega released Virtua Fighter 4 on the PS2 with VF4: Evolution mode with the VF1 models as a 10-year anniversary thing. Sega literally dropped that port at $19.99 on day one. That was a crazy good deal.

>>5509470
to see liquid Dural for the first time, there wasnt a game out for the PC or home consoles that could match those graphics. hell most movies back then didnt have CGI that could match it.

kids today look at it now and cant understand what made VF3 (Model 3 board) so great and ahead of everyone else.

just remember when VF3 came out Tekken 3 came out using the same graphic engine as Tekken 1

>>5510314

VF3:TB for the Dreamcast was horrible, it played nothing like the arcade and was outmatched graphically by Soul Caliber 1. guess thats what happens when the original people dont port the game and spend all their time making Shenmue

>>5510332
>VF3:TB for the Dreamcast was horrible

It wasn't that bad of a port. But it definitely was rushed by Genki. Graphically, it's a step down, but it still played well enough at least.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Mej2tJC_rI

> guess thats what happens when the original people dont port the game and spend all their time making Shenmue

They were working on more than Shenmue. They also had that Ferrari simulator for Naomi/ Dreamcast and Outtrigger. They were also developing Virtua Fighter 4 behind the scenes.

But the VF3:TB port still did suffer.

>>5507579
>suck

anon please it's one of the most fun fighting games up there with MK II and the original Marvel vs Capcom for pure unadulterated fun

>>5507579
because it's not Tobal 2

>>5509471
I'm sorry to hear that you're bad at fighting games.

>>5509470
>More tactical than just smashing buttons

This. This is why I always considered VF superior to Tekken.

>>5510348
What do you think about Fighters Megamix?

>>5507613
Are you fucking retarded? The virtua fighter graphics set the standard for the years to follow. Virtua fighter games looked like games from another planet when they dropped. Besides without VF1 your beloved plebstation would have taken the 2D graphics route.

>>5509438
Because Virtua Fighter came out before Tekken and was arguably better until Tekken 3 came out.

>>5511262
Your dealer must have sold you a pretty good batch of crack this time, Jimmy. Tekken is clearly master race.

>>5507579
Back in the day it was the poison of the arcade

Due to it's expensive buy or rental cost for the machine on launch, some arcades would charge .50 cents to pay instead of .25 cents like it's other rival arcade cabinets at the time.

Add to it that if you sucked, the first match could end in LEGIT 10 seconds of game play, that .50 cents was in the toilet. If you are good you can breeze through the game in 4-5 minutes.

So it was totally not worth your money in the arcade scene.

>>5511262
>virtua fighter graphics
>set the standard
>for literally fucking anything
Goodness me, what a sensible chuckle

>>5511318
Even if you sucked at Street Fighter, you got at least 1 minute of play before you got that Game Over countdown. If you were good, you were at the cabinet for a good 20 minutes.

Virtua Fighter was not worth it's admission and was a gimmick on launch

>>5511319
They literally did zoomer.

>>5511318
>>5511323
That must be why Virtua Fighter is one of the highest grossing arcade games of all time.

>>5511324
>calling others a zoomer
>is indeed a zoomer himself
kek, get rekt keyboard nigger. Butthurt as fuck.

>>5511335
It relied on expensive cabinet unit costs along with HYPE of graphics over gameplay.

A crowd around a Virtua Fighter machine during launch week brought tons of money due to extremely high admission cost (.50 to even a dollar in some regions) along with super short gameplay time (super quick character select screens, 5-10 second rounds average, skippable win poses)

In one hour with Street Fighter at a crowded competitive arcade, you would have an average of 20 matches happen at a revenue of $5.25 in that hour

Virtua Fighter in that same hour and traffic would net you $90 bucks in that hour average (if .50 cents a game) and $180 (if set at a buck a challenge)

It's crazy but it's smart Sega math

>>5511346
I see, so it just made a lot of money off of the launch hype and people stopped caring afterwards. That must be why the Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 were two of the best selling games on the Saturn.

>>5511351
In that one week at the arcade, Virtua Fighter made more money then a whole 6 months of Street Fighter 2 Turbo or early Mortal Kombat 2.

And it all stems from the math mentioned in >>5511346. Street Fighter or MK's $5.25 hour average is nothing compared to the quick revenue of Virtua Fighter's $90-$180 an hour.

Even if people didn't care a week later, they were super ahead of the pack for months

>>5510332
>it played nothing like the arcade
as if anyone would know

are there trolls in this thread or do youths really not understand that VF1 was groundbreaking when it came out? bringing military simulator 3D to a one on one arcade fighter?

>>5507579
Sounds to me like someone needs to get good and stop being a crying baby.

>>5511392
Born in 83

Bayside, arcade rat. Lived that era. Virtua Fighter is exactly like >>5511346 said. It got attention but 3D fighting didn't really get taken seriously till Tekken came on the scene.

Virtua Fighter is to 3D Fighting as Pitfall is to side scrollers, both WERE the first and got attention and in pop culture, but the long game was done by better stuff later.

>>5511313
this. tekken 1 and 2 are legit good, playable fighting games still (in spite of) the bullshit that certain characters have. hell u can even kbd in t1

>>5510314
>Virtua Fighter Remix is interesting because it uses the VF2 Saturn engine.

Does this mean vf remix runs with 60, or 30 fps?

>>5511319

You fucking retarded dolt, go polish your zelda toys collection.

>>5511351
>That must be why the Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 were two of the best selling games on the Saturn

Virtua Fighter 1 was a pack-in game for the Sega Saturn. It sold well based on that factor alone. But there was some critism about the port not being as good as it could have been, so Sega developed Virtua Fighter Remix and gave it away for free to anyone that filled out their registration cards.

Virtua Fighter 2 was one of the best selling games on the Sega Saturn in Japan. It was actually packaged as the pack-in game for the Saturn in NA and other European regions along with Daytona (In some cases, Sega Rally instead) and Virtua Cop. Virtua Fighter 2 was really big in Japan.

>>5511568
>Does this mean vf remix runs with 60, or 30 fps?

VF Remix is still a 30fps game. The developers didn't change the framerate because they didn't want to alter the feeling of the gameplay.

>>5511154
>What do you think about Fighters Megamix?

The balance is all over the place, and it is kinda like a Marvel vs Capcom type of game, but with multiple AM2 fighting games. I like Fighters Megamix a lot. It's good, even though it plays a bit more like Fighting Vipers.

>>5511583
kek

>>5507579
Better run home to mama now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRNYUSJaU0

I feel bad for people who don't understand how perfect the cast of VF is. Must suck not having the gift.

>>5511413
>3D fighting didn't really get taken seriously till Tekken came on the scene.

maybe in america (who gives a fuck) find me one tekken 1- 3 match that comes close to the excitement in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP5kNcyEba4

>>5512063
Didn't your mom teach you to don't hate, appreciate?

Lmao all these salty tekkeniggers

>>5507579
>I can’t do a 17-hit combo by mashing buttons
>therefore it’s shit
Tekken was a mistake.

>>5512089
We are talking about VF1 during it's initial launch

>>5512187
i'm pretty sure people took VF1 more seriously than tekken 1, VF2 came shortly after anyways.

>>5511970
>>>5507579 (OP)
>Better run home to mama now
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yRNYUSJaU0 [Embed]

*clap clap*

"Yah - hoo"

>>5511126
Can you explain what makes it "more tactical" to the uninitiated? I could never really figure out VF, in part because I'm bad at fighting games in general.

>>5507579
Because you can't control it with the power glove.

I still remember when VF3 dropped. It was late summer, early autumn 96. I walk into my local arcade, and there is a HUGE crowd of people surrounding this new white machine near the entrance. Even arcade personnel is standing around staring ignoring work. I have never seen anything like that before, or after.

VF3 spearheaded numerous 3D techniques that became a staple in video games afterwards. In comparison Tekken 3, one of the immortal pillars of pleb gaming debuted more than half a year later, and it looked laughably outdated and outclassed.

I don't understand how Virtua Fighter got it's reputation as 'the hard one' when it only uses three buttons, has an enormous input buffer, is big on universal rules, has a much more forgiving ground game (to the point where rising kicks have i-frames), shorter combos, and doesn't require you to learn advanced movement techniques.

>>5513148
It relies entirely on fundamentals; that makes it both a great game and easy for combo junkies to crap on.

>>5507579
No fatalities

tekkenfags are still salty

Tekken AND Virtua Fighter both suck ass.

>>5515057
pleb taste