/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[4-8] MetaDoom updated to v5.3
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=53010&sid=02bf2fae2438f0dcd3b36503f87ae744&start=1545#p1098655

[4-7] GZDoom 4.0 formally released, with alpha Vulkan support
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=64188

[4-7] 'Doom with Sprinkles' 1.0
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64173

[4-4] New vanilla mapping trick allows for voodoo doll conveyor belts
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105364-did-you-know-you-can-make-a-voodoo-conveyor-belt-in-vanilla-doom/

[4-2] Switcher-Heretic project looking for mappers, remaking levels in Doom
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105315-community-project-switcher-heretic/

[4-1] Plutonia 3 announced as an actual thing, not an April Fool's
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105326-plutonia-3-boom-compatible-megawad/

[3-30] BloodGDX author binds his Blood, Tekwar, and Witchaven ports together as BuildGDX
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php/downloads/download/8-java/53-buildgdx

[3-26] SM194 for Q1 released; 14 maps each on a 64 unit grid
http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61702

[3-26] Anon map release: Phobos Station
https://mega.nz/#!Sy5hGaKC!d16N4GKXcOYthn2ONDXw9d5DOC0maoMZatR2ruo0XBM

[3-26] Doom Eternal confirmed for a Steam release
https://twitter.com/bethesda/status/1110225138979651584

[3-24] James 'Jimmy' Paddock providing music for Romero's Sigil
https://twitter.com/JamesPaddock/status/1109737028571164672

[3-21] Hedon released, a standalone game using GZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=56480

[3-21] A Quake 2 RTX implementation project now taken all the way by Nvidia
https://www.pcgamesn.com/nvidia/quake-ii-rtx-nvidia-ray-tracing

[3-20] Recent gameplay footage of Nightdive's System Shock remake
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdiaIRkjpI0

[3-19] id Software to release Doom Eternal on Google Stadia

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HUH ... new thread already?

>>5490765
>mixing pixel sizes

>>5490813
It's just a silly picture.

>>5490813
>being an autistic spaz on the internet

>>5490810
The last one went for about four days.

I'm gonna post in this one because the other one fucked the news post.

Are there any ways to get a random number in ZDL? Or grab Unix time? I want to record some demos without having to change the name over and over again.

>>5490261

GZDOOM DEVELOPER SUCKS DONKEY BALLS

>>5490917
Could you put some effort into making a new thread visible next time?

>UPDATE April 7, 2019: Due to a delay in physical production of some of SIGIL's pieces, fan boxes will ship in the first week of May. The free megawad will be made available one week after fan boxes begin shipping so paying customers can play SIGIL first.

>>5491060
Who cares about this shit made in Oblige generator inside a Windows virtual machine on Apple Gaybook. Romero is shitty designer and mapper. Other people were responsible for how great was Doom, not just him. But those other people don't parasite on Doom's name, they still have their jobs as designers, developers, they probably don't even remember which level or sprite they made. It's only fucking loser Romero.

>>5491075
Fag.

>>5490921
GZDoom is shit. In the new version there's so much useless shit like other language support, useless non-working Vulkan. They didn't add any important features at all such as lightmaps. In 2019 engine you can't even make a Quake-tier map.

>>5490917
Non-Doom anime faggotry pic. This one here is legitimate thread.

>>5491106
there's no issues with the image you troglodyte lol. he just didn't make it visible AND fucked up the news post.

>>5491107
The IS a PROBLEM with it. Chinese porn cartoons =/= Doom.

>not even a day and dkg and the slavshit are already spraying liquid ass everywhere

So Cheogs is pretty moody.

I like the use of Quake textures.

What maps should I play with Dakka?

>>5491125

What is this, anon?

>>5491121
It seems that slavshits moved to /v/. They have more attention there >>>/v/457783060

>>5491147
Cheoghs.

>>5491130
Also, I dig the dark and claustrophobic catacomb maze populated with revenants, ghosts, and a lone asshole arch-vile surprise. The bones piled up in the corner are a nice touch too, and overall I think the map uses slopes and 3D floors pretty well.

>>5490307
this
the chinese are behind the great firewall of china anyways, they cant download doom, and with 1 billion people you can find enough who can make their own games. They're in their own little world.

>>5491090
they still dont have a flag for making multiple-bullet attacks stack the damage on the target without overpenetrating.
You Cannot make a quake shotgun in doom. The quake shotguns could overkill and they wouldnt penetrate.
And this is 2019

>>5491328
didnt "overpenetration" in quake happen because enemy is still solid after death?

>>5491335
Maybe. But in doom monsters are still solid on the first frame of their death state and the ability to stop the shots fails as soon as their health is depleted.
So it will take a hardcoded flag to prevent that. Even if you rewrite a new gunshot routine it wont get around this.
sourceports (gz) are literally this fucked over the issue

GZDoom can't even compete with id Tech 2. I will wait for a Xash3D port. Russians already making it.

>>5491367
yeah and Doom3 runs faster than gz
xash3d? whats that?

>>5491371
Xash3D is reverse-engineered Goldsrc (Half-LIfe engine). The developer of is now making a Doom port.

>>5491367
>>5490742
Let that sink in folks
Doom3 runs better than GZdoom
when its trying to run doom2
The developers of GZ need to take a long hard look at Doom3 and learn some serious lessons from it.

>>5491380
This is probably a good thing but its likely to have that vasayan models shit in it

>>5491380
>>5491386
Wait
Are they doing the sprite based approach?
All they have to do is have 1 poly square size for each of the objects and have them always facing the viewer, but then display sided sprite images based on which direction the object is actually facing.

>>5491386
He's gonna port sprites, not models. In the alpha demo he didn't use any HD packs. They already made a working level convertor that converts vanilla maps into Goldsrc. Considering the fact that he already ported Quake (even some mission packs) to his engine I'm sure the project will not be abandoned.

>>5491396
holy fuck
someone who's doing something correct for a change

>>5490742
Something crazy i wish could happen with Doom mods is messing with the skybox
Like punching an imp hard you, you see im falling in the background or a bosses that fucks up with the skybox with some weird effects

>>5491060
When will he stop making people his bitch?

>>5491436
>bosses that fucks up with the skybox with some weird effects
That can probably be done, you'd just have to make the map with that effect in mind.

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1115695794156396544
>SIGIL Update: The game itself is done, but due to some production issues with the coin and my severed head, the big boxes are not ready to ship. Sorry! I can’t release the free version until the Beast Box ships.

>>5491606
>UPDATE April 7, 2019: Due to a delay in physical production of some of SIGIL's pieces, fan boxes will ship in the first week of May. The free megawad will be made available one week after fan boxes begin shipping so paying customers can play SIGIL first.

>he didn't learn

>>5491396
>xash 3D has quake support
how come I never heard of this?

>>5491617
what a joke

>>5491662
they move in different circles I guess

>>5491705
how compatible is it compared to quakespasm?

>>5491662
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-remake/downloads/quake-remake-v10-sfx-archive

>>5491153
wtf is this real?

>>5491324
You are so wrong it hurts

>>5491748
Yes.

>>5491734
Xash3D is dodgy russian malware with stolen code and legal disputes. Nobody with a bright mind would make mods for it.

>>5491775
Fuck off graf. I see why you're so scared - because when we'll get a proper Xash3D Doom port you'll be out of business, because nobody will need your shitty lagging crap.

>>5491153
OMG IT'S REAL

>>5490765
"What were they thinking?!"

>>5490813
Yes, I did. It was rushed. Please make a pixel-accurate version, that would be nice.

So....how is GZDoom 4.0.0 ?

>>5491850
Wouldn't be surprised if it breaks shit

>>5491734
What exactly are these improvements and bug fixes they claim?

Replayed Project Brutality after a while with the latest version. It's....pretty good but I found it easier than vanilla.
The sound design is all over the place,it's either too quiet or too loud.

Also too many weapons,it's good to have a variation of a weapon but there are too many and makes it difficult to pick the one you want.

>>5491752
Sometimes they troll on 4c but I have no idea how they get on the regular internet. Also show proofs.
I mean there are a fair many chinese who arent in china. But. Those know english because they're in other countries for school or business.
>>5491775
nobody in the hobbist/modding scene gives a fug about legalities/code crap. Its easy enough to keep rehosting stuff and making it come back again and again and people keep sharing it along with their mods/maps/etc because there's a demand.
Somebody with huge lawyers would be needed to get rid of something like that. ID has done that for some doom-for-quake mod years ago but its rare otherwise.

>>5491913
that building spies on my mom

>>5491925
technically its supposed to be looking for ghost particles, but I guess that gives it unlimited x-ray vision too

>>5491913
Don't worry, the government can't keep us all in.

fb /theromero/posts/10157328480066289
I think this is getting out of hand...

>>5491837
but its nothing

What do you think of Doom Eternal XP,/vr/?

>>5492015
The mod?
I haven't tried it yet, but it looks alright.

>>5492015
> XP
You mean its for Windows XP?
otherwise, I dont really think of it

mario and luigi bowser's inside story but instead it's ranger: shub niggurath's inside story

>>5491986

I actualy think its kinda cute.

>>5491986
ferraris are expensive

Just beat Hedon, really enjoyed it even if the backtracking on some maps is way fucky, the amount of effort and small details put into the maps is pretty neat

>>5491850
New fonts not very good, the smallest scaling sizes got fucked, languages other than english are now supported, and the rest is stuff you'd only care about if you touch the console or can't adapt to slightly reorganized settings menus.
If the fonts bother you at all, 3.7.2 is probably on the internet archive.

>>5492353
Everything past the graphic overhaul bothers me. Because it gives me lag where there was none before, and it cuts my fps in half on anything demanding.

>>5492365
Your fault for having a shitty computer.
t. Graf

>>5492379
upgraded my computer
modern gzdoom runs now
then more versions come out
now it just happens to start going slow as hell for no reason
> it runs, at least, if you could call it that
not satisfied
and not satisfied on principal either, since it means im still stuck using older versions if I want it to actually be playable. Which I could've done on my older comp with windows7 on it.

pretty much just butchering the game in my opinion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UkeFwJ-yHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwngnOCWIZo

>>5492406
You might have to resort to LZDoom

>>5492414
what exactly is that anyway?
it looks like a fork, but there's no telling if it actually runs mods

>>5492478
Yes there is
It's called actually trying it. There's literally nothing stopping you, aside from maybe an especially shit internet connection.

Should this be named worst retro fps?

>>5492530
never heard about it

>>5491396
>Considering the fact that he already ported Quake (even some mission packs) to his engine
Holy fucks, what? Does that mean that my dream of having Deathmatch Classic's weapon models(+sounds) ported to singleplayer Quake could one day come true?!

Whats the ideal soundfont to use for GZDoom?

>>5491775
How is it malware?

>>5492543
don't enable

>>5492530
It's definitely bad.

>>5492537
Pumpkinhead was a horror movie, actually a pretty good one, and the curse of any good horror movie is to be shaken down for bad sequels in one way or another.

That game is losely based on one of the shitass sequels, and is equal parts "Buuh, making games is hard, I don't want to have to try.", and "Here's my original idea that nobody has done, because it's a bad idea to begin with.", then there's the feeling you get that the game resents you for playing it.
It was part of that FMV craze you saw briefly in the 90s, and has a lot of those bad halmarks.

>>5491883
The sound in PB is weird. Some guns' firing sounds are cut off by reloading or just stop abruptly instead of trailing off(the Demon Tech Rifle, for example), and it's been that way since 2.0.

As for the weapons, I agree. I just disable a lot of the redundant ones. The Carbine and SMG, for sure.

>>5492269
some of the easter eggs are awesome
like how you can noclip into that goblin's room in the forge map and it actually branches into a short storyline
that's the kind of autism that we need more of

>>5492594
That's such a rookie mistake too, you can easily avoid cutoffs like that by assigning conflicting sounds in a sequence to different sound channels, then they can overlap smoothly without any jarring stops (ergo, you assign your BANG sound to one channel, then the empty click and subsequent reloading sounds are each assigned to one or more channels that isn't used by the gunshot).

I'm pretty fucking green at this stuff, and even I know this.
I do say it would be nice to have a couple more sound channels to use, but there's enough that this shouldn't be a problem.

>>5492530
I had to look what the fuck was this

>>5492925
A shitty cashgrab based on a shitty cashgrab.
I'm not sure I'd put it on the same level as gross incompetence as Tekwar or Operation Bodycount, but it's definitely a game which isn't fun, isn't intuitive, and which isn't well thought out in the slightest.

Whats the point in adding Vulcan?

>>5492961
It's supposed to be a faster and more efficient 3D renderer than OpenGL, but to most people, it actually provides worse performance, so the idea I'm getting is that Vulkan *might* become good later, but for now is just a waste of time.

>>5492961
>>5492976
From my understanding, Vulkan is better on AMD cards but shit on Nvidia.

>>5492979
How's it on Intel?

>>5492979
doom 2016 in my 1060 runs better with vulkan

>>5492961
there is no point, it's like adding speedholes to a tractor

>>5493067
>speedholes

>>5493060
Because Doom 4 is very well optimized and GZDoom isn't.

>>5493083
https://youtu.be/ZZHsJIQ-AMM?t=90

>>5493085
well, that was my point, gzdoom is like the brutal doom of ports

>>5493092
I wouldn't put it quite that harshly, but there's definitely room for improvement.

Stop spreading this bullshit! She's white (mediterranean race) and she's pretty. Her husband has noble aryan ginger genes, so her child will be 100% whiter than any of you.

>>5493172
posted in wrong thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt3OjrPh5vk

>>5493172
she is not Mediterranean
t. italian

>>5492530
It looks horrible, but I still think that Nerves of Steel beats them all, absolute dogshit visuals, including ms paint drawn icons, horrible sound, nothing resembling a balanced game and fucking """doors""".

sagittarius a* .wad when

>>5491606
>>5491617
This is fishy, only a couple weeks back he was only just getting around to sourcing music from Jimmy, and yet back in Feb it was delayed because of a delay on physical things.

Comes across like the physical products are an excuse to lay the blame for the delays elsewhere, away from himself.

>>5493197
Nerves of Steel was so fucking terrible it's not even funny.

is this a fetish?

>>5493267
is there anything in it that isnt

>>5493276
Not in Hedon.

>>5493172
huh?

>>5493267
They later spruce up and become enemies
they jump around much worse than those fem-agents from HL1 and throw small hard-to-see mini tentacles at you
and while they do so, they occasionally stop to lay an explosive egg mine
im not kidding
they literally lay an egg (picrelated)
and I even know how that kind of fetish is called
It's like 4 or 5 fetishes (depend if you count BDSM separately) bundled in one enemy.
I'd call them "hentai rejects" but we all know that
hentai has no rejects

>>5493213
that's m87

>here's your BFG senpai

>>5493346
>let's shorten the front of the gun because players NEED to see the extra detailed backside, dude
>no side handles
>no red LED motif
>fucking blue wiring out of nowhere
>random blue ball looking straight out of TRON
>+ yellow light at the side
???

>>5493346
That looks like something out of Serious Sam 2

Do I need to change the settings "Load deh/bex lumps" in gzdoom for a file like av.deh?

>>5493217
This guy is a fucking moron. Too bad he is talented, so we have to absorb his moronity.

>>5493346
>BFG 8000

>>5493346
What's this from?

>>5493454
rage 2

>>5490742
Is there any wad with a skybox that shows a portal to a different dimension?
Like imagine the sky of Inferno with a big circle that shows either Phobos' skybox or its intermission buildings

>>5493458
yeah I found it right after I asked, but thanks for replying.
Rage 2 looks inferior to Doom Eternal and I'm not spending money on it. Rage 1 was kind of cool but I didn't really care to finish it.

Plus they made that Hagar chick fat instead of a milf, so that's really disappointing.

>Plays the latest version of Johnny Doom
>Originally started as a silly addon from Brutal Doom
>Execute the fatalities is much less clunky and satisfying
>Overall It plays better than BD itself or any other variation of the latter
>What the hell

>>5493595
I still miss the explosive yell from the older versions.

>>5493509
Rage 2 looks alright.More colourful and engaging than the first one but nothing special.
I don't dig the open world aspect, I prefer a more straightforward approach.

>>5492269
I just finished Hedon last night and I need lewds of the orc ladies and evil elf so very badly.

>>5493621
LOL

>>5493621
Blazkowicz is better

>>5493603
WHAT
it got removed?

did that robot suit got fully implemented yet either?

>>5493658
Robot suit?

>>5493621
That's quite possibly the worst bodytype I've ever seen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ1fJbYhbVQ

popped up in my feed

>>5493631
BJ is unironically handsome, though

>>5493621
>ladies
there's a reason they don't have any male orcs in the game
all of them are futas

>>5493092
>>5493116
not him but...
No, I would put it that harshly.
The frameskip from GZdoom 2.4 to GZdoom 3.0 was the beginning of the end for it. Now the crows will pick over the carcass as consumer demand created a larger and larger vacuum for new forks or replacements.
Couple years ago it was hot shit though, and whoever does the new thing needs to keep decorate to maintain legacy crossover support.

>>5493408
shouldnt it be loading .deh patches automatically?

>>5493621
>>5493697
im okay wrapping my arms around it
but I wish it was dark green instead of blue

>>5493702
BJ is a chad.
>Damn strong
>6'3 ft tall
>Can drink from a pool of blood on low health in Wolf3D
>Muscular as hell
>Big fucking jawline
>More aryan than a nazi
>Didn't lose an inch of muscle when he went into a coma for 15 years in the New Order
>Can get stabbed like 10 times and walk off like nothing happened

>>5493621
The developer has a hentaifoundry account that is nothing but that shit, used to be one the first google results for Hedon.

>>5490742
any guides on how to make doom styled sprites?

>>5493701
>That Pinkie unused death animation
Makes me wonder what kind of weapon would make it explode on the inside.

>>5493757
plasma gun

>>5493621
yeah look up hentai-foundry Yuffa profile
get ready for lots of cock though, near everyone is a dickgirl

>>5493812
>>5493753
I already have, it looks like he took everything NSFW down when his mod started to get big. I think it's behind a paywall on his Patreon or Discord now. Kind of don't blame him.
Post-script: Just went through four fucking Captchas, 4chin really didn't want me to post this.

>>5493509
I'm willing to check out Rage 2 once it drops in price, because I was one of the few people who really did like Rage, for all its flaws and shortcomings, and I always did want a sequel, hoping they'd address and fix those, and make a better game based on the first.

>>5493812
That's my favorite kind of girl.

>>5493856

>>5493856
>>5493860

>>5493832
>>5493509
I'm still pissed that Rage 2 is not a direct continuation to that non-ending of Rage 1

>>5493863
Not everyone wants to bend over for futas.

>anons talking about body pillows
Imagine if they released life-size body pillows of each monster from Doom 4/Eternal.
That would be hilarious and repulsing at the same time.

>>5493863
getting fucked by a girl with a dick may or may not cause ass pain.

>>5493828
It's all there, degenerate shit like futa isn't visible by normal so you have to opt-in by messing with the filter.

>>5493697
You have quite possibly the shittiest taste I've ever seen

>>5493925
thanks for making my day, lol.

Look so I want to mod the original PWAD vanilla maps with UDMF format. The problem is that Its overly complicated for my pea brain to understand. I tried the method where cmd must be used but that didnt work. Are the UDMF maps available on mediafire or something? So many people have converted apparently so it should be readily available right?

HDoom : a mod where you get to fuck anime cacodemons
>10/10, truly a masterpiece, hehe
Hedon : a mod that barely even makes reference to anything sexual and is based on some loose NSFWish designs the author who is a hentai artist who probably wanted to pursue better things in life once made
>fetish garbage ree why do people like things I don't

this is your brain on 4chan

>>5493941
>HHEHEHEE, PFPFFTTPFFTFT RRRRRR GABEGINO
literally you

>>5493947
That truly was the most heated argument I have witnessed

>>5493967
Just stop giving him (you)s
You're just rewarding his autism

>Be Mike12
>Makes an hentai mod for Doom
>Becomes one of the most infamous mods in the community
>Is legitimately talented and helped on other mods and games
>Can do some great pixel art
>Chooses the name Hdoomguy,like he only wants to be remembered as the one who made that mod
>which he didn't update for years

I just don't get it,he could be more but he decides to keep that name like that it's his magnum opus or proud because he caused a massive growth of Doom related porn.
I don't hate him,it just feels weird.

>>5493941
>>10/10, truly a masterpiece, hehe
Yeah, I definitely constantly see that opinion on here. You definitely didn't imagine it to fuel your faggy victim complex.

I wish I had the talent to make an MDK Doom mod.

found a backpack inside a backpack.

>>5493998
Yeah, I wish you had the talent to make an MDK Doom mod too. I'd actually play that.

so uh guys wot do about UDMF ????

>>5494008
tell the truth
how many times have you played that wad with that mod?

>>5494024
hey, it's a match made in heaven.

>>5493941
HDoom doesn't pretend to be something it isn't, also the anatomy and proportions aren't mindbendingly awful.

Good on the guy for making a game basically on his own though, I can say that, meanwhile, I'm still waiting on HDoom to update.

Thoughts on certain wads/megawads?

Aged like wine:Old but still holds up to this day

Aged like milk:Good back when it came out but now it's mediocre

All around: self explanatory,really well done in all aspects,extremely replayable

Beautiful Piece of Shit: One that looks wonderful,stunning but it plays like garbage

>>5494216
>Aged like wine
Strain
>Aged like milk
Alien Vendetta
>All around
Preacher
>Beautiful Piece of Shit
Shadows Of The nightmare realm

What makes a slaughtermap good? I was debating about making one and wanted to know what you thought about it?

do retro fps's have the biggest modding community of all retro games? or does it just seem that way since im in the bubble? i know theres a lot of mario hacks but it seems like less

>>5494227
when I look at the Mod Monthly Madness, half the mods are Doom ones

>>5494227
I'd assume so. People were already making mods for Wolf3d to the point that Doom's WAD format was structured to make the whole thing more streamlined. Romhacks didn't start catching on until around the late 90s and it wasn't until the early 2000s that you started seeing romhacks with fully original levels.

Before Wolf3d you still had a few games like Lode Runner and Excitebike that let you create your own levels but the Internet wasn't around yet so you couldn't actually share them with others (I'm pretty sure that there was a BBS at one point for sharing Lode Runner levels but don't quote me on that)

>>5494227
Its probably the biggest modding community before 2000s. Counter strike might be close but its hard to measure

>>5493603
>>5493658
>this is johnny speaking, it's still there bros! if you get the berserk jpoints powerup and press reload while using your fists, BOOM THERE IT IS. alternatively, type "give hellfirehandpowerup" in the console if you want it all the time

>>5493595
love you. I worked hard as fuck on it to make it as fun as possible I'm super glad you like it

>>5493671
I fucked around with making a robo suit powerup for a hot minute buuuut it never got further than like a samus weapon. wrist grenade launcher with right click, flamethrower, plasma rifle, railgun, mastermind bullets with left click and you switch functions by pressing reload/punch/kick. all stuff that's usable separately anyways. it wasn't very fun and I'm not smart enough to code a cool fun version so away it went

Out of all the Doom 1 remake wads out there, what is considered the best one?

>last thread i was in reached p.10
>finally replied
>deleted
super nani the fuck?

>>5494337
well done, you bumped the extraneous thread that could have died quietly

>>5494319
Oh well fuck me, I had no idea. Glad you kept that

>>5494227
Quake and quake 2 mods

New graphics
New sounds
Gameplay mods
New maps, single and DM
Etc etc etc

>>5493621
Check yuffaart on furaffinity
Very nice art there

>>5494364
it's more rare to get now I guess. it used to be part of the berserk pack, which is now the knife

>>5494389
no

help an ignorant brother here
what are the cons and pros of GZDoom 4.0?

>>5494402
I noticed that, I think the knife is pretty good and a natural inclusion to the arsenal seeing as it just passively replaces punch attacks. Really my only complaint is having punch AND kick buttons, as juggling those and grenade throws can get messy in hectic moments. Combos and their finishers feel lackluster as well.
Random crit punches are amazing though. Overall I'd say your final update and send off to Johnny Doom is a big success.
Do you have any plans for any other gameplay mods? They don't have to be as big and bombastic as Johnny Doom, but I've always enjoyed the cheeky attitude that came with it and your more arcadey approach to game mechanics is great

>>5494286
>Lode Runner
I remember playing the fuck out of the macintosh version when that was a thing. Holy fuck, I had nearly forgotten about it.

>>5491090
Tell me about it. These menus are indecipherable and I don't even want to start configuring it all.

playing hexen dd
very comfy

>>5492741
All you have to do is put 0 as the channel for all sounds. It finds an open one and uses that. You NEVER have to worry about cutoffs, ever. So fucking simple.

>>5494537
then a sound ends up in CHAN_VOICE and gets cut off by player noises

>>5494460
my original idea was to have it be doom, plus a beat em up, plus dial-a-combos like mortal kombat 3. doom moves way too quick though so I'm sure everyone just mashes punch and ignores the combos. I just like having the option to do them. the finishers ARE lackluster though... hm. I could very easily make the uppercut and roundhouse do the same knockback damage that grenades do when they don't kill (makes monsters fly into the air and land on their backs) so at least there's some sort of bang to the end. I think I'll try that right now actually.
anyways though, super appreciate that dude. I think I might be a one and done retiree, truth be told I don't really know what I'm doing and I don't have the energy to learn zscript. never say never though, I know I'll never give up doom totally so I guess we'll see

Am I missing something with the new DoomRLA update? I see all these videos of people playing with a new hud but when I play it's the same old hud, even if I use the alternative hud. What gives?

>>5494592
It uses a new free channel every time the sound plays. Never happens.

I remember maybe a year or two ago there was someone posting here making a map(s?) using textures that take inspiration from Sonic's Marble Zone. Did anything ever come of that?

>>5494592
(Same guy) You really should put every single sound as 0 except for looping sounds that you want to stop, like a minigun secondary that stays spinning for instance.

>>5494615
okay, so it sees CHAN_BODY isn't free, but CHAN_VOICE is, and uses it
then you use a wall, or hit the floor hard, or get shot, and the player pawn does its grunt/pain sounds, which are always in CHAN_VOICE

very easy to reproduce

>>5494424
>pros
something about vulkan
localization support, at the cost of see below
>cons
unchangeable menu and console fonts that stylistically clash with all other fonts

Explain Chasm: The Rift to me. What is it about how good is it?

>>5494623
>>5494615
https://file.io/7s2G6d
bind a key to "give testitem"
hit it while doing nothing, and you'll hear seven blips
hit it and then use a wall, and you'll hear six
to its credit, the code does try to avoid using CHAN_VOICE, but it can still happen, especially with lots of overlapping sounds

>>5494640
Pretty good!

>>5492539
damn i hope so, I love those weapon models

>>5494610
I mean who says you have to learn Zscript? I do a bunch of shit with just Decorate and ACS, and really the only thing that chaps my ass is when I have to deal with zandy's limtations. But that's on me

>>5494702
I find the NO YOU MUST ZSCRIPT to be weird, prohibitive and often needless.

Having mods limited to a little over a year worth of versions of one engine is sucky and often times debatable for if it's even worth it.

Also the ZScript documentation is still fucking balls.

>>5494737
Are there people genuinely pushing Zscript that hard? That's pretty foolish, I know it's really powerful but I still think it's too underdeveloped and under documented to be a valid choice for all modders, at this stage it's better in the hands of a few that are willing to put up with this shit.
That and as of right now the only mod I can think of that really puts Zscript to its fullest potential is Hideous Destructor.

>>5494702
This is very true, I know my way around decorate fairly well and I'd like to just stick with that and maybe figure out ACS a little better

>>5494623
>>5494641
Most SFX are a half second to a second long though. It'll finish before the next 6 sounds play. It's not going to happen often enough to worry about, just put 0 and you'll be fine 99.9% of the time. Unless you enjoy stressing about putting a 1-7 there.

>>5491090
>They didn't add any important features at all such as lightmaps.
fuck off, vasyan

>>5494737
>NO YOU MUST ZSCRIPT
i haven't seen anyone with this attitude

>>5493358
pff, literal unplayable trash!
Devs are lazy!

>>5494863
>Dev are lazy!
well, you got that right at the least.

>>5494803
Do you even know what a lightmap is, retard? Vasyan would hate them.

This Duke Nukem map "Roch" really lived up to the hype. Huge map with fun, balanced combat, intuitive progression, and some neat effects (such as this reflection, a moving helicopter, and moving cars).

>>5490743
>[3-26] Anon map release: Phobos Station
>https://mega.nz/#!Sy5hGaKC!d16N4GKXcOYthn2ONDXw9d5DOC0maoMZatR2ruo0XBM
Too many monster closets, too much armor, not enough health.

Fun map despite some issues.

>>5494613
DRLA has an addon hud that you have to load in gzdoom

>>5494613
Check the DRLA options.

>>5494737
>>5494745
>>5494856
No one is pushing for ZScript, but it has quite a lot more access to the engine workings and that makes a lot of workarounds unnecessary when you can achieve desired effect with just 2-3 lines of code instead of 30 lines of spamming actors/creating dummy items

>>5494903
I've found him pretty boring.
It is especially starkly seen in his latter maps, but his whole gimmick is trying to surprise the player, to catch him off-guard, to show his stuff isn't derivative. Roch8 is just pure "you guessed WRONG", ESPECIALLY the whole alien ship segment.
However, there isn't all that much originality in his maps. Sure he invents some stuff, some gimmicks, here and there, but those inventions are spread pretty thin, there isn't a consistent red thread going through them, they are not a part of a single concise research&development direction. As a result, trying not to seem derivative, he repeats himself A LOT, the majority of gimmicks he introduces are pretty much run into the ground by the end of Roch8. To put it shortly, Roch maps are, while admittedly not trivial/derivative, at the same time very banal. In other words, they are still just as tropey as what they try not to be, it's just that those tropes used in later maps are introduced in earlier maps, not taken from the outside.

>>5494869
only vasyan gives a shit enough about """graphics""" """enhancements""" to the point where he considers them important features

>>5493751
>Jewish power fantasy
Opinion dismissed

>>5495147

>>5495146
Everyone who plays with mouselook is vasyan.

>>5495243

>>5493925

Quake's textures are such amazing gothic goodness.
Some day, when I'm done with Immoral Conduct, I think I should make a mapset with stuff like this.

Nice carpet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq3x1Jy8pYM

>>5494635
>unchangeable menu
oh, c'mon, this means every mod will overwrite the menu and show only its options as it was before?

>>5495407
>>5495415
Release your freaking mod already, you sucka

>>5495470
>>5494635
>unchangeable font that the menu and console use
elaborated

>>5495434
> only archviles spawn
> zero spread ssg

>>5495478
I am working off things off my to-do list on it, but I'm also busy with some IRL things.
I'll admit that I'm a slow worker, and that there's been some scope creep, but I have most of my assets done by now.

>>5495481
oh, thanks god

>>5495494
>oh, thanks graf
fixed that for you

>>5495407
Is that you Cory Whittle?

>>5493925
Cleanse it with fire. If not sufficient, apply more fire.

>>5493751
>cringy Jewish power fantasies

>>5495521
No. I don't think anyone has heard of him in like 15 years.

>>5493751
cringy

Just request a ban for him already.

>>5495147
>>5495529
>>5495626
why are you so set on this one thing

>>5495657
Guess why, and it doesn't just have to do with him using the "word" "cringy".

how easy is it to get previous gzdoom versions?
as in, in case i want to play drla and shit?

https://zdoom.org/files/gzdoom/bin/

I'll just drop here to say, that WGCity usermap is the best Build level I have ever played, as of right now. Consider this an earnest recommendation.

Hint: While playing it, postpone sticking any keycards anywhere for as long as at all possible.

>>5494227
GTA-series is so much bigger, nigger.

>>5494927
Thanks for playing! I did deliberately put less health in, but I tested the map well over 10 hours and thought it was fine. I will try next time if I ever make another one to make more variety in the traps. I wanted a fun, challenging map and I glad you found it fun. Thanks for playing.

>>5495679
>>5495670
thanks

>>5495713
didn't doom had people making stuff before the source code was even released?
there's also probablt bigger versitilaty in doom modding, people made their own games and universes with it

>>5495670
You don't need an older version to play DRLA. Stop spreading misinformation.

>>5494640
> Very crunchy graphics with a Quake-esque feel to them
> Dismemberment system
> Levels with a bit of exploration
> Atmosphere

It's flat-land like Wolf 3D, but it is still a good game worth playing.

>doom 2016 is nearly a hundred fucking gigs
>some braindead 6 hour long shooter is nearly a whopping one hundred gigarinos
What the super-ass cockmulch is this nonsense

>>5495884
>6 hours
>braindead
>this assmad about storage space

Just don't play the game, retard.
It hurts me how retarded you are. Just boggles my mind.

>>5495850
>T Graf crony.

GZDoom performance comparison between two versions (used same config)

GZDoom 3.7.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm7XSdigSbE

GZDoom 4.0.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxTmrroHSMQ

It seems 4.0.0 has significant fps drops. What is the point with this Vulkan thing then if it doesn't even work? And now in OpenGL there're fps drops.

>>5495938
MARISA AND THE GRAF NPCs OWNED AND BTFO! TAKE THAT!

>>5495938
>What is the point with this Vulkan thing then if it doesn't even work?
It's for Graf to toss himself off to, and bitch more about people running his increasingly less optimized engine on hardware that didn't come out in the last thirty seconds.

>>5495945
>one of the dumber mods deleted the post anon made showing many of GZDOOM's 4.0.0's flaws.

>>5495949
I'll post it again. It's GZDoom so it's retro, they shouldn't delet this.

GZDoom 3.7.2 Performance test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm7XSdigSbE

GZDoom 4.0.0 Performance test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxTmrroHSMQ

>>5490742
More webms like this?

>>5495095
Yeah but you have to spend 30 / (2 to 3) amount of time to figure out how to make that code in zscript.

It might not be beautiful from a code perspective of what gets spammed in decorate but as long as it works it doesnt matter. What you see on the screen is what counts.
> mfw using momentum variables to spawn a string of particles of different sizes rather than actors that look like particles. Because particles are much lighter weight than more actors

>Ultimate Doom Visor bug the fuck out with zandronum 3.0
>Other visor mods are either lackluster or not compatible with zandronum

Rec me some cool hud mod that doesn't shit itself with zan3.0.

>>5495953
Who cares about those shitty vaseline remakes anyway? GZDoom 4.0.0 works just fine on my 2013 laptop, just tested it with a few favorite retro styled mods - stable 60 fps.

>>5495948
Bingo bango

>>5495980
T. graf

>>5495949
I think I've seen enough moderation abuse in this general, and I suggest you to write a complaint here http://www.4channel.org/feedback
It's your duty to keep the board uninfected, anon

>>5495980

Fuck, ran Guncaster + SF2012 in high resolution (1366 x something) with much more consistency than I had before. It's actually amazing.

Did anybody play this already: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=QFDfek-72cA

It seems it was released today. Is this considered retro? It uses GZDoom engine.

>>5496107
>Is this considered retro
>commercial game released in 2019
No it's not retro. Same as Total Chaos and vaselinyan packs.

>>5495959
nc hud
cats visor
this

>>5496107
Reminds me of Jazz Jackrabbit 2 without the arsenal.

Noticed two flaws about D4T: Crucible Slayer Edition.
>Even when you turn off some MP weapons, you can still get their upgrades
>There's a completionist bonus that gives you every weapon, even said turned off weapons

How do you guys come up with rooms in your levels? I have been working on this map for two months and struggle to come up with something I am satisfied with.

>>5496187
>>5496187
I usually start by drawing a weird shape and continually changing and morphing it into a room that looks neat. Then I consider what sort of gameplay / gimmicks /traps can be put in that space. Give me a link to your wad and maybe I could help you out man.

>>5496242
That's what I have been doing but I just struggle to turn it into something I like. I also tend to use reference photos and other levels for inspiration but I can only get so far with that.

>>5495884
that's how every game comes out nowadays bundled with patches and additional content.

also that's some extra bad swearing.

>>5496129

nc hud doesn't work on zandronum,

gonna try those others.

>>5490921
Grass is green.

>>5495884
all dem shiny textures wagies slaved over for years...and then it's over in a few hours, never to be played again. totally worth it.

>>5496287
Whenever I get mappers block I usually move onto another map and return at a later time, that sometimes helps. If you haven't learned all the different tools in Doombuilder (such as the curve tool and stair builder) take some time to do so, they can help you make interesting shapes and details impossible to make in normal drawing mode. You can do a bunch of neat shit with the stair builder in particular, you can add borders to sectors and extrude linedefs. It's hard to give meaningful advice on this because creating engaging rooms relies solely on your creativity. I'm currently stuck on mapping out this castle area in my map. I think i'll just come back to it later, maybe I can make it suck less in a couple of days.

>>5496330
>neet cope

>>5496345
>wagie mental gymnastics

I really hope somebody makes a Dusk-themed Doom map/WAD. I'd love to see Duskguy and Doomguy fuck up cultists and demons together.

>>5496330
I replayed it once or twice, will probably play again some day.

>>5495884
Either badly compressed files or the very fact that a lot of AAA publishers are competing with each other, so they make their game big enough to prevent players to buy another big game.
A game like Mario Odessey may not have had that much of a big filesize but first party/exclusive titles are usually like that.

Heresy?

>>5495884
poorly compressed language-dependent files and bundled malware like denuvo

>>5496430
>denuvo
lol

>>5496430
Didn't they remove Denuvo?

>>5496458
i don't know, i just know it was an issue when the game came out

>>5496410

>>5496410
Just slapping high res textures and some normal maps onto things won't do the trick

does anybody have malice for quake and other commercial addons?

>Beat Knee Deep in the Dead with Hideous Destructor and Ugly as Sin (frag shards off, scarcity on, no hunger or thrist)
Baron fight was fun, if a little easy after spamming every single talisman I had to tie down the baddies then magdumping the liberator on everything as well as having frag shards turned off. One day I'll be brave enough to have the shards turned back on.

Next stop! Inferno!

>>5496670
>One day I'll be brave enough to have the shards turned back on.

Shards are no biggie, the worst is you'll have to turn around to shoot some resurrected jerk in the face. I hated the shards at first but they've grown on me.

>>5496682
Yeah, I don't mind them much either, but since I'm going through the vanilla maps, I'm afraid of the more imp heavy spots, especially with scarcity on and not enough dead zombiemen to loot for shells/magazines/cells/bullets to beat them through sheer attrition

>>5491383
>>5495980
>>5495850
I'd much rather play DOOM on 32X, Saturn, Or Amiga.

>>5496410
at least you know it is, therefor, you won't get shot

>>5496670
>>5496682
Shards can be a real bitch, and they make Barons Of Hell the fucking worst thing ever, but the thing is also that a monster raised by a shard will typically be rather weak, and can easily be killed again.
That said, a baldie doesn't have to be strong to shoot you up.

They're a cool gameplay mechanic that really keeps you on your toes.

>>5491383
They work completely differently, GZDoom is bottlenecked by the way code for Things are handled, as well as linedef checks, partially because GZDoom is still trying to work like Doom, while Doom 3 is much more modern in design, because it's a much newer game.

I won't deny that there is room for optimization though.

>>5496410
Where are the Risen 3D models?

>>5491383
Youre saying that as if there was some sort of proof that GZDoom runs worse than Doom 3. Please feel free to provide us with evidence that GZDoom, running vanilla Doom 2 with vanilla settings, runs at worse FPS than Doom 3.

>>5496910
just don't bother

>>5491617
I find it more amusing that he thinks people are going to not upload the megawad before his week long money grubbing is over.

>>5496925
I won't, if he doesn't delay it another time.
Not that it matters much on that point, he already has the money.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM0Gk4uU3rI

Do you prefer Doom 1 or 2 for a casual playthrough?

>>5497038
Plutonia.

you carefully remove a nesting queen space ant from the primary extractor. good to go

>>5497046
why?

Just finished Dusk, it was pretty fucking good.
What are some other nu-boomershooters worth playing?

>>5496410
looks... interesting?

>>5497038
Doom 1 or TNT

>>5497069
Amid Evil is great. Satisfying weapons, solid level design, creative visuals, six episodes, and unique enemy rosters for each one.

>>5497103
Wasn't that the game that did the weapons as 2D sprites, then normal-mapped them to look 3D?

>>5497054
It's not too hard compared to what the community make, but also not boring.

>>5497152
Yeah. Pretty odd decision, but they look fine, I wouldn't have guessed it.

>>5497152
> normal mapped sprites
that is wack and rad

>>5497189
The cool part is that they manage to look like actual three dimensional objects that way.

>>5497171
thanks for replying. ive never played plutonia but plan to after i finish playing doom 2. its on final doom room right? along with TNT? i only heard that plutonia is kinda garbo on UV, im just playing on HMP right now cause I havent played doom since I was a kid and it was only on the snes so i never got that 'real' experience. im glad to be playing it now. now if you'll excuse me, my left nut seems to be irritating. im gonna go chew some pulmón de vaca

>>5497221
Plutonia is designed to be especially hard on Ultra-Violence, because the original game kind of isn't and the authors wanted something to give people a really good challenge.

Dario suggested people who think UV is too hard to play it on HMP, which makes sense when you hear it, it's the hardest one and not everyone is up to the challenge, but there's this common mentality in the fandom that since the original game isn't very hard on UV, obviously you're only supposed to play it on UV ever, no matter the mapset, and then when they play a mapset like Plutonia which is designed the way it is, and it's too hard for them, it bruises their ego and they act pissy about it.
tl;dr, some people are too proud to acknowledge actual difficulty levels and resent maps which are above their skill level.

>>5497221
Plutonia isn't garbo on UV. It's just the hardest iwad.

>>5497231
This. If you find Plutonia too hard on UV, just play on HMP instead.

>>5497230
I'm not going to lie I'm actually kind of confused about what you said. should plutonia be played only on UV? is HMP for plutonia hard in its own way and that UV is the true setting for it BECAUSE it was designed to be hard so UV is thematic almost to the way it should be played/was designed?
>>5497231
What makes it so hard? compared to others? I've watched playthroughs and it looks chaotic as fuck but their also speedruns so people are going apeshit just rushing to teleporters to get to next areas while wall clipping to get keys, so I guess my question is; when playing plutonia on UV is it unbearably hard to the average player?

>>5497248
Plutonia is tough for multiple reasons. Lots of encounters are sudden traps of tough monsters that can wipe you out almost immediately if you aren't ready for them. The architecture and enemy setups often leave little room to breathe, forcing you to fight to scrape whatever space you can. There are some devious situations like long distance hitscanners (or even immortal chaingunners) or rushes of revenants or archvile fights without any cover. It really demands full knowledge of the game and pro doom strats and very high skills compared to every other IWAD.

>>5497248
Plutonia makes liberal use of monsters that Doom 2 introduced. Particularly Chaingunners, Revenants, and Arch-viles. It can prove to be jarring to casual fans, as they're more used to seeing Doom 1 monsters such as Imps being used liberally.

>>5497248
You can go ahead and try Plutonia on UV, but if you find the difficulty frustrating, try playing it on HMP instead.
That's what I'm saying.

As for how Plutonia is hard, it uses effective monster placements, putting you in tight situations and springing wild traps on you, for instance Map 11 is a labyrinth populated with Arch-Viles, where you're given an SSG and a big pile of shells at the start, and you have to use corners and keep trying to stun the Viles to avoid them blowing your ass sky high.
It's a very tense map, but it's fair in how it plays.

>Open up Quake mod
>Play for 30 minutes, don't bother to save cause it's easy
>Walk through obvious passageway
>Instant death by lazers "LOL it was a trap XD"
>Back at the start again
And into the trash it goes.

Are there any Quake mods that are actually bright and colorful but still good? Everything is fucking brown and I get it but still. I tried Arcane Dimensions and I'm thinking Adventures of Square levels of color here if anyone knows.

>>5497323
Play in software (Mark V Winquake, for example) where possible, it's more colorful.

>>5497364
Thanks I'll check out that source port. But I'm really asking if there's any Quake mods that are colorful or have a different atmosphere, i.e. something other than a big temple/castle/factory/sewer. Any good mods take place in a jungle, a city, something like that?

>>5496410
Keeping the original diffuse maps and using pixel-perfect normal/spec/whatevercrapyourenginehandles maps helps to add a nice layer of visual complexity on top WHILE keeping consistent with the original style(i.e. not looking like some Unity asset flip on steam).

I also started to paint normal maps for all sprites including monsters, pickups, decorations and weapon overlays, but atm it's not that easy to implement them in a properly functioning way.

>>5497365
unironically love this

>>5497365
Guys what if
>doom level with a black hole in the skybox
>the black hole gets closer and takes over more of the sky the longer you take because the planet is falling into it
>need to complete the level and teleport away before you're eaten by the black hole

>>5497401
That's almost a Stargate SG1 episode, I kinda like it.
Do you think it would be at all possible to emulate the time distortion of a gargantuan gravity well?

>>5497416
really dude?

>>5497416
I want it. Where can I get this wad? Please.

>>5497416
>salam aleikum, brother, delete this post insallah

>>5497451
Negative, oh dear thoughtslave.

>>5491060
>UPDATE I'm an incompetent bitch, so Sigil is a cancelled project by now. Try to rearrange the snippets from the streams and recreate the maps from Doom Builder.

>>5497416
i could have accepted a wad based purely on the mosque but this is just way too edgy

>>5496580
>>5497383
There was no normal mapping on that screen. It's just a texture pack by Hoover1979.

domestic terrorism and escalating racial tensions and violence are funny and should be promoted and glorified

isnt there a doom wad that made everything dark, like Doom 3 levels of dark?

>>5497501
Oh, yes there is and I already have it
Here it is, for those who want it.
https://mega.nz/#!QosSiQCS!dPjepWBuZ8Seerx0u7xQPrDdrtLpj2cXl_0ZesBdv7U

>>5497485
That's definitely too noisy then. Also clashes with the remaining assets.

>>5497492
>"backwards 7th century religions and hostile takeovers of societies should be promoted and glorified."

Stop this right here and please go to /pol/ if you want to talk about such things.

>>5497485
Sponsored by Altera and broken jaws

>>5497485
>>5497513
The surface mounted chips are HUGE. They also have random cracks(?) running through them.

>>5497518
Looks more like rain hit them

>>5497501
Can you do that with Dark Doom Z?

>>5497506
spooky

>>5497526
more like "no mortals allowed"

>>5496316
And shit is brown.

>>5497501
>>5497506
I'm still wondering why people uses Doom 3 as reference to "pitch black everything" lighting standard, the game isn't that much dark FFS, it relies more on jumpscares than anything else.

>>5497625
It's still more dark than it should be.
With a flashlight mod though, it's not at all bad.

What's more heresy? This https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P2S6khu_z0

Or 3D models?

>>5497628
What if i told you that vanilla Doom 3 can be played without using Flashlight 24/7 in most places, the last time i played it, i literally only used flashlight to search for items in dark corners, but all main pathing is always bright.

>>5497631
Anything with mouselook is more heresy than this.

>>5497634
I know, I did that years ago. I just prefer the flashlight, and the chainsaw.

>>5497635
is this the new meme youre trying to push?

>>5497631
wtf why would a game like Doom with its simple map geo need 2k textures?

>>5497645
>>5497646
stop fucking giving him attention

>>5497646
Always reminds me of this.

>>5497646
They think that they're improving "old shitty pixels".

>>5497651
Somebody post that cobbled-together Castlevania HD clusterfuck meme pic. This is how all these high res packs feel to me.

>>5496107
Looks like shit.
Not retro, not even FPS related.
Go fuck yourself.

>>5497698
it can be played with Doom maps as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hncl2dUv2Kk

So it's retro and FPS related.

>>5497654
They are, autist.

>>5497707
Garry's mod can be played with Doom maps as well. Does it make it retro? No.

>>5497320
Open console type resurrect. Come on now

>>5497723
quake has resurrect?

>>5497710
No they're not. It objectively looks worse and blurrier than the original thing and destroys the artstyle.

>>5497707
And if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bicycle.

>>5497735
report and ignore.

>>5496107
Clearly a lot of effort went into making this, but I'm not sure whether it's the video itself or GZDoom having very choppy FPS all the way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hL4J99Fcj8
>turning the master levels into a single episode can screw up bloodsea keep because it utilizes that dead simple tag related to the fatso for a secret
>it even got a different skybox
i wonder what other problems did the psn version did and if that black sky with stars skybox is even present

>>5496910
>>5496916
Found the shills for GZDOOM's latest build. I'd much rather play 32X, Jaguar, and Amiga Doom.

>>5497958
The already was a video evidence showing that GZDoom 4.0.0 runs slower than 3.7.2 provided by vasyan777 who was testing his heavy 3d mod loaded with shaders in both versions, but the mods obviously deleted his post.

With vanilla settings without any mods the difference may not be noticable though.

>>5498049
iirc 4.0 has problems with 3d models?

>>5498049
>by vasyan777
disregarded

>>5495704
That is a great map, much more grandiose than a typical city map without becoming overly flashy or complex.

>>5498049
90% of ppl here anyway would have only 1 fps in that vasyan pack in any GZDoom version.

>>5490742
What if Vasyan777 moved on to Quake or Thief modding?

>>5497323
Havent played it yet, but Ter Shibboleth appears to have some pretty unique & colorful settings

>>5498092
He would make Quake 1.5

>>5498067
He's right, you know that

>>5498049
Just tested comparing to 3.8, with no mods and same INIs, then with Doom Tournament (to test how it will react to model items and weapons)
It works slightly faster (5-7%) in both cases
Vulkan gives no performance bonus whatsoever, and crashes if loaded with DT

>>5498061
I think it's just Vulkan. I played it a bit with DT and had no crashes but Vulkan just crashes with it outright on map load

>>5498096
I imagine Quake Epsilon but somehow even shittier.
Also Vasyan777 isn't real, it's a fake acc operated by 2ch.ru/doom/ trolls

>>5498106
Try to test with a custom wad loaded with GZDoom dynamic lights sources (in vasyan video it was Honte Remastered).

>>5496358
If you're gonna replay Doom 16 again, can you provide evidence of how Heat Blast actually works?
I just can't tell whether it affects enemies through every direction or just the front.
Some gameplay mods make it affect every angle but GMOTA with the Doomslayer's plasma gun, it only affects the front.
And in the actual game, the animation they set up for when you pick up an alt fire from that robot, it shows the mod only going from a marine's point of view.
Not sure if it's even available on Snapmap, but maybe you could try record yourself finding some unwilling/possessed, turn your back to them and do the heat blast to see if they're hit from the blast.
Because the Doomwiki doesn't really mention this and they don't even discribe the Cacodemon's projectiles blinding you or how one of the Chaingun's alt fires could have explosive bullets or something.

>>5498120
Yep, with dynamic lights runs slower by ~10%
WTF Graf?

>>5495884
It still uses MEGATEXTURES
so there's your answer.

>find old quake websites with neat skins and models
>links are broken and some sites are only available through wayback
fuck

>>5498150
http://en.ws.q3df.org/models/
found this though

>>5498067
that's 'discarded', anon.

>>5497416
based well done

>>5496910
>>5498049
On my system map01 of standard stock Plutonia runs at about 15-20 fps using 3.72
This is compared to 3.25 which goes over vsync.

Ive been trying to ignore stuff like this like itll go away and, like windows10 will somehow get Faster and able to adapt itself to a user's environment in later versions.

>>5496430
>>5496359
Almost nobody compresses files these days. Just like the old days you still have to uncompress those files in memory when you're using them. Because HD space is getting cheap and because of increasing internet thoughput developers have less problems saying
> "Fuckit, just store the textures in TGA format, itll improve loading a tiny bit"

The developers over at OpenXcom did that pretty much with their game out of laziness. You can include .ogg music but the game decompresses it to something more like .wav when its in memory. Some really huge mods have alot of .ogg music which basically means loading a whole CD of raw audio into ram.
Same deal for all the graphics too, the .gif and .png files, nope those are decompressed too (even though there's like 0 overhead these days for decoding those on the fly). Those might as well be TGA files too.

ALL of this reflects POORLY on programmers. It makes people wonder if the programmers actually live in india.

>>5490742
BRING
BACK
/ARENA/

Current GZDoom runs at like 500 FPS with the hardware renderer, and at 250 on the software renderer. Literally what are you guys complaining about?

>>5498173
>>/vg/249380826

>>5498179
shut up graf

>>5498179
yeah but you have a video card in your system
I think most of the people playing the game have an integrated graphics chip with shared vram.
We're not using desktop machines, we're usually on run-of-the-mill laptops which arent designed for gaming.
I think the graphics survey done back on version 3.3 may have been misleading about what people actually had. Even if the OGL version is decent that does not mean the performance of its video/cpu is at an expected level.

Nobody uses a full-powered vidya desktop for retro gaming.
Since these are retro games, there's no need for dedicated gaming rigs for them. Thats one of the pluses of /vr/ and the doom community, you're supposed to be able to run it on a toaster because these are toaster games.
And obviously, if a game has high end features added to a sourceport, those can be shut off if they are too graphics intensive for a toaster to use. At least, this is the expectation.
/v/ type shit isnt always practical for a person's lifetyle anyway. A gaming laptop is more likely to get stolen in public if you walk away to use the restroom, if it looks more older style maybe with some scratches on the lid nobody wants to bother with that. Then again someone might be playing it on their work laptop, which is definitely NOT going to be a gaming laptop.