/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5465656
What Windows 98 games do you recommend from this service to look into? What are their best sale prices and when do they happen? I am currently looking around for a cheap computer case and I should be ready to go by this time next year, I hope they survive until then.

I have hundreds of GOG games that I didn't pay for.
I love GOG.

>>5465656
>charging for abbandonware
They deserve death

>>5465742
Not abandonware if it's being sold with permission from rightsholders.

>>5465656
that just shows that DRM-free content is non-profitable thanks to all the faggots who pirate their asses off. the only one laughing would be GabeN at this point.

>>5465742
Patching old games for compatibility with modern systems is something we should commend. X Wing vs Tie Fighter was a huge pain in the ass to run on modern machines until the GOG version came out. It's not like you aren't still free to go torrent the original game if you want. Get the stick out of your ass anon.

>>5465824
I think it has more to do with GOG selling niche titles and generally being retarded when it comes to curating the store.
They STILL haven't approved Dusk for sale, so everyone who wants to buy it has to get it on Steam.

>>5465824
It's more than that. People actually want DRM. Look how upset they get on /v/ when a game isn't coming to their favorite walled garden.

>>5465830
Redpilled
>>5466006
Same

>>5465702
Just so you know, not all GoG releases run on original hardware, they often have wrappers or emulators (DOSBox) to get them going.

>>5465893
that's annoying

Dusk isn't one of those games where they lean on steam to provide multiplayer, is it? I stopped even buying multiplayer games on PC, because unless you go steam it's like they all are missing the online function (because otherwise you'd just pirate, they hold the MP as a reason to buy on steam, etc.) Annoying as shit because as far as I could tell back when it happened to me (not from GoG but commenting in general), there wasn't even marking to indicate that fact.

Summary since OP is a lameass who didn't provide an archive.is or anything

>GOG sold $34 million worth of games in 2018(this apparently doesn't include CD Projekt RED games)
>due to $25 million in server costs to deliver the games and $12 million in operating costs(personnel), and all the advertising money spent on Thronebreaker, they barely pulled any profit
>CD Projekt RED themselves are still turning a profit of over $25 a year, even if that is lower than what they made in 2017
>GOG still sold more in 2018 than they have in any prior year
The key detail here buried behind the clickbait title is they spent a ton of money advertising Thronebreaker, which means CPR used GOG's budget as a slushfund to advertise their new game. GOG turned a profit just fine, it was all spent by CPR to advertise elsewhere.

Shitty clickbait article is shitty clickbait article. This is why you use archive.is, to deny these fucks advertising money.

>>5466208
How are you this angry? Nothing about the article was clickbait if it clearly includes all the information you provided. Just autistic or something to get worked over something this small? Ya seethe?

>>5465656
Does GOG actually fix older titles to make them more compatible with modern machines or was that a fib?

>>5466208
Thanks for the summary and pointing out the CPR leech. Glad to know GOG is financially secure when it's not being used as a launchpad. I really value the fact their stuff is DRM free, 90% of my game purchases in the last few years have been from GOG specifically for that reason.

>>5466254
Sometimes they do, yeah.

>>5466236
>GOG.com is barely making any profit
>actual article states otherwise
Learn the meaning of what clickbait is mouthbreather.

>>5466208
>$25 a year
That should read
>$25 million a year

>>5466271
Regardless of how the company siphons their various marketing expenses, the article did not lie about what was presented on the P&L sheet - the company barely made money throughout the year, but explains everything you said. What the fuck do you expect the title of the article to be? "GOG records record revenue but high COGS and Thronebreaker ad shuffling proves too much to overcome in 2018"? First time reading a headline? Ya fucking seething good lord, you're coming dangerously close to working yourself into a shoot.

>>5466053
>not all GoG releases run on original hardware
in my experience you can pretty often install it on a win10 machine and then just port the install directory over to your old machine on a cd or thumb drive and it'll work. also, when you see a file called "GAME.GOG" in the install directory and it's like 500 MB? that's actually an ISO of the game and you can burn an install disk from it.

>>5466513
>the company barely made money throughout the year, but explains everything you said.
But that's not true at all you retard. GOG is owned wholesale by CPR, they just shifted all their expenses over to GOG so CPR looks better on paper. CPR is sitting on over $25 million in profit from their games and GOG combined after all their expenses, advertising, and investments in R&D.

What the article headline is saying is the equivalent of "They sold a lot, but they shifted the money to a different account, so they technically have NO MONEY LEFT IN THEIR ACCOUNT!" The entire headline is based on a technicality, like every other clickbait article. Why are you defending clickbait crap?

>>5465702
I been playing Vangers lately, it's pretty dope. Kind a weird slightly jank Russian mashup of a claymation Star Control 2 + Death Rally Bugworld. Damn good soundtrack. Speaking of sound do Audigy2 drivers for win98 actually exist? I thought xp / 2k was as far back as that card was supported.

>>5466208
this
>modern journalism

>>5466006
>/v/

I avoid that shithole like the plague and I hope they stay away from /vr/.
I know they don't.

>>5466581
you still don't fucking get it, but that's alright. try to calm down anon, we'll meet again! :p

>>5466650
not him but you're obviously a tard that's coping hard that you got called out for falling for clickbait.

>>5465656
I'd buy their shit if they just distributed unaltered disk images and patches. I don't want preinstalled shit bundled with a poorly configured emulator.

>>5466650
He's right though

>>5465702
>What Windows 98 games do you recommend from this service to look into?

most of these games are irreversibly fucked up programming wise. unless the game works fine in newer systems because they didn't make wild assumptions during development, GoG will have hard time trying to run them without using multitude of wrappers.

notice how Diablo 1 suddenly came out on GoG few months after someone reverse engineered the game on github based on leaked debug copy

>>5465702
nice handwriting
the using lower case for the h's is a nice touch

>>5465702
nice handwriting
using lower case for "h" is a nice touch

>20 year old game on steam goes on sale
>game is broken
>valve has the fucking nuts to put up games they KNOW are broken and advertise them as working
>fan page which has the fixes is riddled with broken links and outdated information
>GOG version works fine
>sometimes with the blessing of the original developers and official unofficial patches included

GOG will be sorely missed if it goes under. It has the only working versions of quite a lot of games that I love.

>>5466650
No underages allowed

I unironically advertise GOG to anyone I know who plays retro games. The biggest selling point is simply they patch old games to work on new systems.

so whats your top three games on gog?

>>5466818
7th Guest, Warcraft 2(with extras), and Dungeon Keeper.

>>5466821
>Warcraft 2
Continue. What did I miss?

>>5466829
??? Just W2, beyond the dark portal, and a bunch of old maps. I just liked playing it.

>>5466835
Oh, I just thought that Warcraft 2 was finally on GOG for a second and got excited.
By the way, does everyone know when they expect to launch W1+W2 on GOG?

>>5466513

Oh I can see someone seething right now and it's not him...

>GOG shill thread
Guess Im going to pirate thier shit now

>>5465720
Nice bragging you rear gunner

>>5465742
Cant believe some retrogamers are that retarded.

>>5466053
>>5466562
Is there a way to tell directly from the site? I sort of missed out on the 95-98 times of games and went straight to 2000. That's why I wanted to build a dedicated 98 machine.

>>5466612
I will look into it. You said the magic words "Star Control 2" which is one of my most favorite games. Someone on this board directed me to this Russian abandonware site filled with Russian, Korean, and Chinese DOS games that I have not heard of and look amazing. So the oddities interest me greatly. As for the Audigy2, I hope this will work:
https://www.vogonsdrivers.com/getfile.php?fileid=1383&menustate=0

>>5466708
I was hoping the DRM free approach means it would be a convenient way for me to transfer the games to my older time machine builds that are not online. Fortunately, I have a Diablo 1 disc that was included in the Diablo Battle Chest, and I could install from there, but I think I would be missing out on more recent patches which the GOG release may have. I am more concerned with titles such as Grim Fandango, where I (on a quick inspection of the website) can only find the remastered, but not the original.


>>5466780
That is to avoid them looking like "W's ...

>>5466562
That's bitchin', never knew. Thanks for the info.

Whatever the truth of their numbers, I have about had it with zoomer mouth breathers who don't know the difference between revenue and profit, I see it everyday whenever there are stories of big companies like EA laying people off as if making billions means they are living high on the hog (and I got no love for EA).

>>5466841
NOW.
https://www.gog.com/game/warcraft_bundle

>>5467067
You are fucking with me right now.
This makes legitimately happy.

>>5466650
You're a fuckin retard

warcraft 1+2 now on gog

>>5467020
If a capital H looks like a W then you're doing something REALLY wrong in your handwriting.

>>5467067
>>5467089
Oh hi CD Projekt Red. Please talk with Activision so you can sell the older Mechwarrior games too. Updated versions of MW2 till MW4 that work on OS after Windows XP would be appreciated. Would seriously spend money on that. Also, please don't disappoint your fans with that steampunk game.

>>5466006
gtfo chang

>>5467089
Nice. I'll wait for a sale. Same with Diablo.

>>5467121
I wish I was them. Although you can use the Mechwarrior quadrology and dgvoodoo to run MW3 and 4 pretty well these days. Managed to play through all of op 1 and a bit of 2 so far on MW3 just dandy with dgvoodoo.

>>5467020
>Is there a way to tell
I have yet to get a game from GOG that doesn't run on my Windows 10 computer. I have over 90 games from them for dirt, dirt cheap (1-5 dollars), so if you do find a game that doesn't run on your machine out of the box, let me know.

If that's not enough to convince you, Installing the games is as easy as downloading a .exe from their site and running it to install. That's all.

>>5467089
It's only a matter of time before Diablo 2 comes to GOG. I can't wait for the day that I can make you morons my bitch again while you beg for runes.

Don't forget to activate the gem.

>>5467089
I'm a bit disappointed. I was hoping that the mousefix/mod for Warcraft 1 would be included. Because the controls did not age well at all.
At least the music works properly and is a massive improve.

>>5467020
>posts yet another picture complaining about being broke
>after posting pictures in this thread of all the old shit he's bought
I get tired of your attention-whoring hoarding routine.

>>5466786
>GOG version works fine
Most of the time, not always, Dark Forces 2 and SWAT 3 need additional fucking around to get them working proper like. Still way better than Steam in that regard.

>>5467254
Don't forget Tomb Raider. Last I checked it was still all fucky about controllers.

>>5467067
Son of a, this is me>>5466821
Seems like all I had to do to get it on GOG was to just talk about it.

>>5467501
Rank
Demigod

>>5465742
To be fair they do their own patches and fixes to get the games running on modern hardware without problems, unless there already exist patches and fixes at the time in which case they go out of their way to request permission to use those.

>>5466261
this, I sill have hope that some film producer with an actual set of balls releases some actual movie on gog drm free and we can finally, after 20 or so years start buying movies in a normal, logical way and show those cretins how much money they could have been making for all that time.

>>5465742
You do realise GOG is selling also other stuff... right? And the fact they patch a lot of old shit to make it work on 64 bit is a godsend.

>>5465742
>abbandonware

I don't think you understand what that word means.

>>5465742
there is nothing like abbandonware. Its just thieves term made up to justify stealing.

Or actually, it is not legal,nor moral to take abbandonware without compensation for rights holder

>>5467712
There is actual abandonware, when the developers/publishers go out of business and nobody bought the rights. But 90% of the time someone technically holds the rights, but as a shitty "investment" thinking someone will come along and buy it for more. I don't see anything immoral with making copies of these old titles that aren't even being sold by their owners. If they wanted to make money they would put it on gog or steam, but no.

>>5465702
That’s a damn fine looking mobo

>>5465702
>>5466053
This. Earliest GOG games published were modified/patched to run best on WinXP. So if you want to play most /vr/ games from GOG, you should be building a WinXP rig . NOT Win98. For Win98 rigs, you should be looking to Ebay or pirate them from various sources including Abandonia(who also shill for GOG).

>>5466280
Frankly even $25 profit a year is more profit than Twitter which loses millions a year. If CD Projekt and gang earns enough to pay for itself and keep surviving, it's good enough for me.

>>5467121
>>5467151
MW4 with fanmods was also officially given away for free for a few years. But they already took it down. You might still be able to look for the torrents somewhere.

>>5467712
>stealing
I don't think you know what that word means.

>>5466006
why the fuck would they? explain me plox

>>5466650
Anon did get it, but you didn't

>>5465751
Intellectual property is a spook.

>>5468549
>t. commie bastard

>>5465656
it doesn't help that their format makes for perfect torrent packages

>>5467151
>>5468350
Thanks for the feedback. I guess I'll just get both dgvoodoo and the fanmods for MW4 from some place on the internet. I'll be able to find original copies of MW2-4 on my own. Once they get re-released on GOG I'll gladly get it even if that makes me a "sheep" or whatever because it just werks and should be less annoying to set up (I'm more of a console than PC gamer to be honest).

>>5467712
If buying a game will not put money in the pockets of the original creators then I don't give a shit. I see no difference between buying a used game or pirating that game. If you're not buying the game new or from a digital service which compensates the creators (not the "rights holders," the CREATORS) then it's functionally equivalent to piracy anyway because the only thing wrong with piracy is denying the creators money for their work.

>>5467863
Yeah, AGP was just a flash in the pan, but it was what I remembered for my Win2k computer I had back then. Couldn't afford a VooDoo card then nor now, so I have to go with nVidia.


>>5468337
I was hoping to augment my J-Win98SE build with digital downloads from GOG The intention of the build is centered around the OS. I missed out on titles like Grim Fandango which I hoped would work on a 98 machine. Once 980s drop in price, I may convert my current Win7 daily driver machine to an XP machine and start a retro Win7 build.


>>5467095
I never professed to be a calligrapher.


>>5467163
Will do. I don't have 10, and I don't have the money to go to 10 at this time but I am thinking of hitting the nuclear button and going Linux after my retro Windows7 build.


>>5467215
Sorry, I reuse old pics as noted by the 2017 magazine was taken in 2017, and I have slowly been saving to build the JWin98SE machine for a couple years now. The parts like the Audigy2 and DVD drive were stuff I already had. The Pentium 3, 512MB stick of RAM, is new and somewhat costly. I did finally get one of those floppy emulators and another anon suggested I go with 120GB SSDs with Sata to IDE converters so I hope to save up enough to get those next. I may not be able to afford them but I am trying to save up, it's not easy with my situation.

>>5468342

Twitter cannot sustain itself?
Then how is it still online?

>>5467712
If there is nobody holding the copyright (since the company was disolved), then you aren't stealing and it's abandonware.
And if years later a retail company picks up abandonware and starts selling it once again, they aren't doing it for the profit of the original company (since it doesn't exist) and usually don't even have to track down for copyrights (since there are none), basically selling you thing they've took over. Technically you could pick handful of abandonware titles yourself and start selling them back, as long as their ownership would be non-existent. Silmarils games are a great example of it - you can pick them and sell them again and there is nobody going to stop you.

>>5466006
>People actually want DRM
No they don't. The actual difference between Steam and GOG is the size of the library itself. Steam is HYUGE and GOG is predominately about retro stuff.

>>5468815

>>5468549
>Stirnerposting
>In my /vr/?
It's more likely than you think.

>>5468805
>blablabla I'm such a loser blablabla please pity me blablabla look at my blog blablabla
Anon nobody cares about your life. If you can't afford to buy anything /vr/-related then I guess that sucks to you but you don't need to share your woes on this board. If you really want to be pathetic then go to /r9k/ or /adv/ or whatever containment board where losers blog about their shitty lives.

>>5468815
Investors. Businesses don't operate like people, though plenty of people live in perpetual debt too. Thinking that cash on hand is a good thing, no debt, and even to some extent profitability just doesn't fit the way business works. And don't even start on government. Those are even more strange compared to personal finances.

But basically it's investor faith. As long as investors float a company, it can go on forever. Twitter has massive reach and intimate details about millions of lives. That has value far beyond a dollar sign.

>>5469025
you sound retarded m8

>>5465656
>gog.com "only" made a little profit
>but revenues were strong

Pretending like this is a problem is monumentally stupid, especially given that it appears as if CDPR considers gog.com part of their marketing, given that the main reason cited for the reduced profitability is marketing for Thronebreaker.

The fact that it has high revenue and is profitable (does not matter HOW profitable) is the important part. It means it's stable and healthy. A lot of money is coming in, which is enough to cover the costs and provide value for CDPR, both directly in terms of profit as well as being an important platform for marketing and customer acquisition for their primary game products.

>>5466513
>>5466650
In conclusion, OP is a retard.

>starts selling new shit
>have to manually add html to filter out by year
>not making as much money
I'm shocked

>>5469036
Thank Christ you don't run a business

>>5469159
I thank Christ that I'm not as deluded and stupid as you.

>>5468805
My man you've been posting images of your somewhat expensive complete computers for more than a year now. Just stop fucking around, put them together because you have all the hardware you need, play some games and stop attentionwhoring. Or if you're just gonna attentionwhore, at least take new images.
>>/vr/image/caw1K5KBR6_g7ngFh-JeMw

>without Richard Burns Rally at library

Meh, no use for me.

>>5465656
Pretty worrisome tbqh.

If your online game service goes under, all your games evaporate if you dont have backups (if their software even allows you to reactivate without checking in.)

>>5466006
I don't have that much principles. But if some dubious client wants to get between me and my game and inflicts arbitrary restrictions (like country specific censorship) I consider it malware. I would never install Steam, Origin or all the other bogus clients on my computer. So IMO GoG is the only Store that does it right. I even stopped using the Humble Store all together the first time when I got completely useless Steam keys instead of the expected actualinstaller.

>>5469749
haha look at this faggot that's scared of technology

have fun churning butter retard :^)

>>5468805
>Retro Win7 build.
What? No. If you use a Win7 for retro, you might as well use Win10 for better hardware driver updates. Win Vista/7 is pretty bad for retrogaming unless you're emulating.

>>5468815
>>5469031
The other factor to keep in mind re big internet companies that don't make profit, is they may be getting indirect government funding via investors from CIA / NSA, since these companies existence directly benefits such agencies via programs like PRISM, which all major tech companies are compelled to participate in.

>>5470778
Anon, choosing not to be shackled in gold handcuffs isn't faggotry. Why would you choose drm when non-drm alternatives exist?

>>5466236
good goy, GOODEST goy.

>>5469706
>online game service goes under, all your games evaporate

what the fook do you think GOG exists for, steam shill??? and even if you don't buy from GOG, some Russian probably already uploaded every single game GOG published. if you're a v-tard who's too spazz to install any progs w/o steam , then you probably need to coathanger your mom before she gave birth to you. imho tbqh.

>>5465656
Your reading comprehension is apparently measured with a negative values. Or you didn't read beyond the headline at all.

>>5466208
>$25 million in server costs to deliver the games
Use bittorrent you cucks.

>>5465656
>GOG.com is barely making any profit
And That's A Good Thing

>>5465656
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/07/gog-com-apologizes-to-sjws-for-tweet-after-being-threatened-by-game-journalists/64315/
And we should care because...?

>>5472157
gamers rise up

My only complaint about GOG is that I am permanently banned from the forums because I shared jokes about Australia and Aboriginal Aussies that some thin-skinned mod thought was too racist. He sent me a private message telling me I had some number of minutes but I did not see the message until the next day so he initially banned me for a month.

I then replied to him calling him a faggot and to just make it permanent so the faggot did.

Other than that, GOG is cool with me since they remedy compatibility issues with older games so that they work on newer operating systems. Adjusting compatibility mode for Windows and trying to jump through hoops are simply bullshit and I thank GOG for helping us bypass that.

Also, they do have better customer service than Steam based upon personal experience. I received refunds from GOG when they confirmed that a game was incompatible with a graphics card despite surpassing or meeting tech spec requirments while Steam has yet to help me with a paid VN that still will not get passed the download phase.

>>5472393
>played stupid game
>won stupid prize
ok.

>>5469159
Profit is excess revenue not spent on anything. If that excess revenue is invested back into the company it's no longer "profit" at the end of the year, but that doesn't mean the company is unprofitable, it just means they're growing by way of reinvesting excess revenue into the business. Anyone who sees that breakdown of revenue and expenses and thinks GoG is doing poorly is very ignorant of how businesses operate and how their finances work.

>>5465742
I like to spend mony to support things I like. You seem to be some retard that thinks money itself has any value. Fucking idiot

>>5467712
>it is not legal,nor moral to take abbandonware without compensation for rights holder
You better not be buying used games, then, or else you're an immoral thief by your own definition.

>>5466817
Yeah it's great that someone is offering an easy solution to customers but like >>5466053 said they usually bundle the stuff inside emulators and call it a day. Have to agree with >>5466701, sometime GoG even "updates" their games by changing the emulator under which the game is running. This as especially annoying with Gabriel Knight 1 when they changed it from Dosbox to ScummVM and the music started for some reason to sound like ass by default (probably Adlib). Not really a big deal to set things up myself but really sloppy job from GoG

>>5466261
yeah they just took every single dollar GOG made and spend it to advertise one game that isn't even their AAA blockbuster instead of putting the money back to improve the store and acquire more good old games

not worrying at all

>>5474590
So Warcraft was free from Blizzard?

>>5469036
This pretty much. If they're above break-even then projects are being funded and everybody's getting paid. Having excessive amounts of unused profit at the end of the year is wasted opportunity more than anything.

>>5474590
>still no response
Animeposters are shitposters as usual. It's not even one of the few good anime series either.

But I already play DRM-free games on Steam. Why would anyone use GOG?

>>5477483
Steam has a list of DRM free games, sure.
But they're not DRM-free if they're on steam, though. Many will start the steam launcher if you try to launch them yourself though.
And the point of Gog is that you can download the installer and give it to anyone else, you can't do that with Steam.

Funny thing, games didn't used to require having an account somewhere just so you could play it, either by yourself or online.

GOG seems like a temporary solution. They'll fix old games 'for now', but when new hardware and OSs come out then the cycle repeats. Cross your fingers and hope they fix the game again.

If you plan on doing a lot of PC gaming, go to pcgamingwiki, get accustomed to applying patches yourself, learn common fixes and tools and become self-reliant.

>>5465656
>selling roms isn't a good business model

>>5478098
>I respond to clickbait headlines!
Good for you.

>>5477628
>He doesn't know
Windows isn't dropping anymore OS's, they're gonna keep updating 10 as things go on. Not sure how they expect people to keep paying for it, but okay.
It's gonna be awhile, mate.

>>5472125
How retarded are you?

>>5478510
>Endless poo in loo design
Make it stop.

>>5465893
https://www.gog.com/news/coming_soon_dusk

Support GOG ;)

>>5478361
>i respond to clickbait responses to clickbait headlines
See what I did there kiddo?

GOG - Guy On Guy

MAGOG - Man Against Guy On Guy.