/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5454363
Rom Hacks Suck.

>>5454370

>>5454370
And we're off to a fantastic start.

>>5454363
>#1

>>5454398
What of it? Last thread was #0.

>>5454363
Name of that Yoshi romhack?

>>5454429
But we've had a good amount of /rhg/s before that.

>>5454459
Yoshi in Sonic 2

rom hacks suck

I've been trying out 64 hax on my everdrive and having a good time.

>Banjo Dreamie
A nicely done hack if you want some more banjo content with a challenge. I have a list of complaints but it is worth playing.

>Goldfinger64
Total conversion mod of goldeneye. All new campaign, weapons, models and maps. Multiplayer has some cool new modes. Sadly the game lags terribly on my 64. With two or thres players it's basically unplayable.

>goldeneyeX
this is a must have for goldeneye fans. It basically takes everything from goldeneye and throws it into perfect dark. You get PDs updated control scheme with and some of it's guns as well. Bonus levels from GE such as frigate and train are awesome. The best part is the full customization of matches and playing against sims.

>FzeroX
all new maps. I haven't mastered the original enough to need it but it seems to do the job.

>ocarina of time randomizer
an awesome way to breathe new life into a well worn game for me. This is probably the only game I could complete like this.

Any suggestions for quality hacks would be appreciated.

I tried my hand at making a pastebin for the list that was given in the previous thread
https://pastebin.com/VmR3DLLU

The previous thread had more recommendations too so here's the thread if you wanna revise the list.
>>5418932
I was even gonna make a new thread before I found out someone else already did.

>>5454953
The last thread was dropping off the catalog fast so I just kinda rushed this out. And all for naught since I didn't get enough time to link this one in the old one and I completely forgot to link to the old one in the OP.

The plural is romshack

We need to delete /vp/ and put a modding board in its place.

>>5454363
Someone finished Yoshi in Sonic 2?
The version I have only goes as far as the second zone.

>>5455394
Is that a little ol' place where we can get together? To play roms? Romshack, baby.

>>5454370
>>5454480
You suck

I spent many hours last week going through and patching up my collection of old games to fix bugs and generally make them more enjoyable.

I just finished patching Zelda: A Link to the Past with the following:
>L/R Item Switching
>Cancel Flute Teleport
>Bug Fixes
>Sword Breaks Pots
>Sword Collects Items
>Controllable Pegasus Dashing
>Hyrule Explorer (minor changes to a few overworld tiles that allows any-order dungeon)
>FastROM to fix sprite limit slowdown

>>5456184
Links to respective hacks in order:
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2879/
>https://www.zeldix.net/t398-cancel-flute-transport
>https://www.zeldix.net/t385-original-alttp-bug-fixes
>https://www.zeldix.net/t401-pots-destroyed-by-l2-l4-sword
>https://www.zeldix.net/t591-collect-items-with-sword
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2880/
>https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4399/
>https://www.zeldix.net/t672-alttp-fastrom

Recently gave Mother for NES another try with a few touch-up hacks.

https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/2318/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4414/
http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/4377/

Castlevania II Simon's Quest with this shit https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/1032/

>>5455723
Why /vp/?

How many times have you beaten FF6 Beyond Chaos?

Remember me?

>>5459140
Yeah. You're dead.

>>5459140
All that work for fucking nothing.

>>5459140
Cool idea but unsurprisingly 4chan can't get anything done.

>>5454363
Why haven't you started a disassembly of your favorite game, anon?

>>5459140
who wants to make a partial romhack with them?

It surprises me how many people play "fix" hacks.

>>5459504
Is there a problem with that?

>>5459140
It deserves to be hacked into a bootleg backport of a Pokemon game, not Crystal itself.

It'd just be easier probably.

>>5459140
I put Freddy Fazbear in Pokemon Diamond

>>5454370
>>5454480
>>5459504

Everything I play is a hack of some sort even if it's just small quality of life improvements or game genie codes patched into the rom.

>>5460014
Why not Pedobear? It even looks like a Pokémon. Or has that already been done?

>>5460014
>>5460301
Yeah, why not pedophile bear? The game even has children in it.

>>5460312
The fuck, dude? It was a joke.

Oh, you're projecting...

>>5454498
>Banjo Dreamie
on that subject could I get someone's consensus on that? I love me some collect-a-thons (even the "bad ones" I still enjoy) but from what I've heard this one is polarizing.
I've heard it was difficult, which is fine, but having to re-collect every single music note/jiggy in a world upon death sounds really tedious. In any case, it looks like there was a lot of effort put into it.

>>5459504
You can apply as many airquotes as you want, it doesn't change the fact that there are old games that do not work entirely the way they were intended, and even the original developers will admit to it. So what exactly is so surprising to you that there are people who want to play a game the way the developer intended?

>>5455723
Yeah I'd actually be in favour of that

Hardware/software modding

>>5457676
Furry containment breached long ago, so it now has no purpose

>>5454370
fpwp

Finally getting around to writing a chip-8 emulator

It's fun but I feel like a brainlet with how long it's taking me to understand how it all works

Is it supposed to be this difficult?

>>5463389
Sure, I'd say you could call that hard. Just because something is "simple" doesn't mean it's easy. On the upside, the fact that your struggling is proof your learning something new.

>>5454363
What are your guys' favorite smb3 hacks?
And what would you recommend as a good source to learn 6502 assembly for someone with prior programming experience (mostly Java but also some C)?

Any romhack authors are lurking here, or is it just people who play them?

Show your projects, past or current. Present yourselves!

>>5465527
>And what would you recommend as a good source to learn 6502 assembly for someone with prior programming experience (mostly Java but also some C)?
Google "learn 6502 assembly". No, seriously. Before you get started, you need to realize that directly interfacing with hardware at a clock cycle level is a hell of a lot different than a high level abstracted language. You won't write a few lines or a paragraph of code and display Hello World on the screen. Your 6502 code won't be 100% portable across 6502 systems without modification either. You need to pick your platform now and stick with it. I'm assuming NES?

If you want to get into ASM in general, I'd recommend going with 68000 on the Genesis instead. The NES is fairly limited for all but the most simple of games unless you want to use a mapper and learn bank switching ontop of ASM and the console hardware quirks. If you are really dead set on making an NES game go ahead, but there's easier consoles to program for.

>>5465614
Never made anything, just mapped out some stuff and uploaded the info to datacrystal. Hopefully one day someone will use that info to make a cool romhack. Or get The Lone Ranger mapped out enough to make a hack.

>>5465614
Only help with them doing things like mapping memory and finding bits of code that need to be changed, never bothered with taking on a whole project of my own.

>>5465527
Mesen will help a lot, the debugger has extensive descriptions of all the opcodes when you hover over them.

Hey whats are some good SMW hacks that aren't made to be crazy hard? I am looking for a vanilla sort of experience with big map, multiple exits and secret levels with a difficulty that maybe goes a little beyond the original game. Do hacks like this exist?

>>5465614
I made a World romhack that I was so proud of 8 years ago, but the passage of time was not kind to it. It was originally a demo though, and now I'm taking the time to make a proper game out of it for the full version.
Instead of being second rate Mario fan-fiction, it'll be something completely distinct from the original game outside of the basic framework.
What's planned is rather than a bunch of small, linear levels, the game cobble each world into a Metroidvania-type structure (pic related, although only about 6 sublevels are in there as opposed to the ~30 that are mapped out).
Hopefully I can make a decent first world by the time summer rolls around.

>>5466378
Sounds ambitious
Good luck, anon

>>5466338
/vr/ attempted to make something like that since it doesn't really exist. Not very many people offered to work on it, and it died before a beta was released.

>>5466378
whoa, thats nut

>SMW rom hacks adding in a feature that shows on the world map if you've gotten all the exits/coins in each level

I made SML2DX and other smaller hacks. I'm currently working on For the Frog the Bell Tolls DX and something else that I will reveal soon.

>>5467019
If that's really you, hello again.
Excited to see more of that "something else" whenever it's ready, and happy Frog DX isn't dead.

>>5467019
Looking forward to Frog DX, I've been following its progress since it was first shown!

>>5466390
damn I was just playing through all of smw for the first time (I know, I know but its just something I never had as a kid). I always see these crazy hacks being played and wanted a more chill game like a smw 1.5.

Are there any 32X/Saturn graphics editors or am I going to have to try and work it by hand in a hex editor? YY-CHR doesn't support it and I can't find anything on romhacking.net.
(Trying to edit space harrier)

>>5467504
Use the latest modified version of Tile Molester. The graphics are located between 0B0000-0F0000. Go to view, codec, and switch to 4bpp linear.

>>5467614
Will try, thanks

>>5467676
>try
What is there to try? It works, see for yourself.

>>5454363
Did I miss something? I rarely visit /vr/ anymore, or forechin in general...what happened to the OP post with all the links to romhack info/guides/tutorials and the Mediafire links to /vr/ recommended romhack packs?

>>5468003
/rhg/ died for a few months.

>>5468213
Well damn.. Do you want me to dig-up those links & files, or is this a "rebirth"-sorta-thing? I'm good either way, happy to see you guys still posting/collaborating..

>>5468003
>no links
laziness, mostly
old thread
>>/vr/thread/5418932

>>5468415
I wasn't criticisizing, of course..just curious

Please, keep /rhg/ alive... Most of the oldheads are gone, and it seems like (from what I have read in the archives) that the /v/ trolls and game-purists are trying to take over.

>>5465527
There are plenty of free ebooks and websites that explain 6502 ASM very simply, I used those

>>5459140
bro thats cool as fuck

>>5459140
i'm here for that Daxter

What romhack is this?

>>5471198
My goodness, that is gorgeous

>>5471198
I can't find anyone giving names, other than the developer's name which is Arex. He shares updates in the /rheg/ Discord https://discord.gg/HfWa4Dg and in the ROM Hack threads on /vp/ which I think is done anonymously.

I am playing an Earthbound randomizer

>>5471913
Yeah, that one is somewhat a mixed bag. The randomization is mostly good, but with EB's level layouts it becomes a fucking maze. Lots of shortcuts in it too, so you can easily walk into an area way above your level. Still neat, and it didn't lock up on me near the end like the DW3/DQ3 randomizer did.

>>5471198
Going by the resolution it does not look like a romhack, but a RPG Maker game.

I've been playing a lot of VLDC 9 recently.

It's... not that good. Not compared to previous VLDC entries. Several levels are kaizo difficulty, which to me should be used sparingly in this kind of project. Many levels are also just plain too long, and with only one checkpoint and pin-point accuracy required to progress it leaves you playing long segments over and over to complete a level. I'm averaging about 30 deaths per level before completion, with a long way to go on the secret exits and more difficult levels.

Last criticism: game just does not really feel like a Super Mario World game. Or even a Mario game for that matter. Would it kill the level designers to give me a fireflower? All the levels are so cramped, there's no sense of the grandeur that made SMW magic. I miss that.

I know people in this thread submitted levels to this, so sorry but it's the truth. A shame because the game is very impressive from a technical perspective.

>>5474038
VDLC 11 has "strict" 500-seconds rule, and no secondary exits at all so its huge improvement. It also limits aesthetics little(they no longer allow to merge tiles, but tile-set mixing is still allowed) so its step to better direction imo.

There was also OLDC contest(more strict rules than vldc's so it feels more like smw), but I don't think they made compilation rom of that(just individual levels).

>>5474181
The 1st Old-School Level Design Contest? A compilation was made.
It's bad. I basically have the same complaints about it that >>5474038 has about VLDC9.

What are some other smw hacks in the style of mario gives up?

>>5456184
have you played vanilla ALttP? if so, how much did the hacks improve your experience?

>>5474038
I haven't submitted a VLDC level since the seventh, but I agree with everything here, the level design is really lackluster in VLDC9

>>5471913
no you're not lol.

>>5474890
I beat VLDC 7 on a flash cart and it is one of my favorite games ever. Really felt like a whole game made out of Special World levels. Levels that were very challenging but rarely threw things in the players face with 1/5th of a second to react to it like several levels I've played in VLDC 9. I will say there is one level watched a video of in VLDC 7 after getting to a certain preoposterous point in the level that seemed impossible, and then viewing the solution on youtube and the rest of the level left me bewildered as to how such a level was ever placed in a hack that was designed to be beatable with savestates. I "disqualified" that level and used a game genie code to pass it.

What is your favorite SMW rom hack?

What is your favorite Sonic rom hack?

>>5471253
>/rheg/

Wtf

How did I not know we had a sister general

>>5475860
>Favourite SMW rom hack

That's easy: Super Mario Bros 5 Reborn

>>5471253
FUCK DISCORD

Any other good discords for Romhacking?

/rhg/ is too slow

>>5477102

so many damn Pokemon rom hacks

I just don't know where to start!

>>5477356
Flora sky is my favorite

>>5477424
Guess I'll go with that one

>>5477036
Why?

/rheg/
>one series
>incredibly actively
>lively discord
>actual projects

/rhg/
>any series or genre permitted
>ded threds
>no projects, just shitposting
>discussion confined to 4chan

What gives

>>5478567
>/rheg/
>lively discord
Taking coversation away from the board is not a good thing.
>actual projects
From people obsessed enough with a single IP to spend time on a image board dedicated to it, using editing tools to modify a 2D RPG. I'd be more surprised if there wasn't anyone trying to make their own Pokemon game on /vp/.

>/rhg/
>discussion confined to 4chan
And rhdn, and assemblergames, and sonicretro, and smwcentral, and starmen.net...
>no projects, just shitposting
What are these people doing then:
>>5467504
>>5467019
>>5466378

>making chip-8 emulator
>feel like I'm making progress
>got it to run without but can't make it display anything
>any examples where people did it are unintelligible OOP messes

It's not fair

>>5478337
Different user, but it's a resource-heavy web app that runs poorly on my laptop.

IRC never did me wrong.

What good romhacking discords are there

The more niche the better imo

>>5478586
Like, I'm guessing you know how to use a graphics library to draw pixels, just the interpreter's framebuffer isn't working.

github.com/ckosmic/chip-84

>>5479707
As I, I know how to use Pygame and Pyglet to do it in python, I'm just lost on how to use it to catch drawing events from the cpu.

>>5479731
Well, there are a few opcodes that modify graphics. Have you implemented those already?

Just redraw the screen after an emulated cycle (if a graphics command was called). I don't think there's a command to update the screen or anything, just do it.

>>5479702
The Qhmm forums one is the only one I've been to that isn't garbage for idiots

>>5479702
discord-only is a huge redflag, tbqh

>>5481105
All the weirdest shit happens in discord-onlys
One second you're chatting about retro youtubers, the next some guy is linking a suicide livestream, happened to me 3 times

>>5475860
MARIO GIVESUP

>>5477424
Wow this rocks

>Tactics Advanced hack that replaces clan recruitment to Monster catching
Time to finally play through with a harem of fairies and lamia

>>5482363
I've only played good FFTA hacks

>>5478567
Most every site confined to one series/game is more active than sites that try to cover all of it, especially RHDN whose sole purpose is to whine more than they bother to maintain an actual archive.

>>5474038
I enjoyed it but it was hard and I guess not vanilla but I didn't want vanilla i only played because of the Vaporwave world

>>5480328
Qhmm?

>>5484993
http://forums.qhimm.com/
He meant this, but since he couldn't spellcheck a sm0l sentence, I wouldn't trust his claim that there are no idiots on the site.

>>5462136
/diy/?

new thread when

>>5485174
I never said there were no idiots on the site, just that the five(?) other romhacking discord were full of idiots. Qhimm has its problems but all things considered it's the best romhack discord

>>5479702
>>5481105

As for communities in general:

RHDN:
- Good for asking for general Romhacking or system-based questions, so probably a good place to start.
- Unless you happen to be working on a game one of the few helpful active forum members happens to have worked on before, you won't get much specific help.

A dedicated modding commnity for a specific series:
- Best place to be, but beyond Mario/Zelda/Metroid/Sonic/Pokemon, not may exist.

The "fan creations" section of a series' general forum:
- Oh fuck what are you doing. Prepare to either be fucking swarmed by autistic requests or completely ignored.

So yeah, while Discord isn't ideal, in my experience getting in touch directly with people working on similar stuff has been the closest thing I've had to a community.