/vr/ - Retro Games

Why wouldn't gen 1 and 2 be allowed on the retro board?
By the way, today (or yesterday) marks 20 years since Pokemon Snap was released in Japan.

Gen 1 and 2 are allowed on /v/, /vr/ and /vp/.

>>5455181

get back to your containment board, you autistic piece of shit.

>>5455260
>4 IPs
Huh.
I'm >>5455208, so you're either OP, or >>5455219, or >>5455253
Which?

>>5455260
Nah that's you. Autism equal lack of empathy.

>>5455267
4 Chan sometimes don't always count who's in.

>>5455208
Damn I love Meowth so much. Such a snappy chap.

>>5455310
He's the best, and his animu voice actress is awesome.

>>5455181
Can I post alolan Pokemon? Or remakes like let's go?

Are there any 'adult' oriented Pokemon hacks?

I don't mean sexual. I've played dozens of Pokemon hacks that have new stories, new graphics, new characters, new maps, new monsters, etc. but they're ALL uniformly oriented towards 10 year olds, just the the main games.

The main pokemon games have a surprisingly solid core in terms of their RPG mechanics, their only problem is that they have ten inches of sugarcoating over that. There's a lot of depth that could be had, but it's all oriented towards little kids, and every single hack copies this for some reason.

Gen 1 and 2 back in elementary school gave me a kind of creepy/horror oriented vibe in some areas even though everything was G-rated. I'd really like something that brought back that feeling as an adult.

>>5455342
Stadium games are good for combat.

Best way to play these games is doing randomizers with gen 1 and 2 and ONLY using the starter Pokémon throughout the playthrough

You get some really fun starters and can customize it however you want, highly recommend since it takes all of 2 minutes to set up.

>>5455181
only time I played pokemon was nocash
bulbasaur is the least cool one isn't it
i mean
charmander is a dragon
squirtle becomes a fire fighter
in the cartoon bulbasaur was a samurai yeah right; fucking loser

Pokemon showdown is fun. But they should had you vs a.i or watch mode.

>>5455342
Go play SMT dumb goreposter

>>5455382
SMT x Pokemon crossover when?

>>5455321
nah sorry

>>5455342
Plaugemon>>5455342

>>5455342
There's one popular Pokémon mod out there where people in the game commit suicide or some shit, I can't remember the name of it.

nvm looked it up, Insurgence is the name. There's an option for "dark story" so it's up your alley. Lots of dialogue, people who played the whole thing said it was good.

>>5455386
Yes

>>5455253
I think the only pokemon sprite that is a downgrade from Green is Kabuto. Every other sprite is strictly better in Red/Blue.

>>5455417
>>5455417

>>5455421
soulless

>>5455424
No it's better and looks like the art more.

>>5455435
To be fair most of them look good, but some still look better on R/B, like Mewtwo or Mew.

>>5455435
Like clean, sterile anime art. Or something that would look cute in a Walmart ad. Not fucked up monster kaijuu. Soulless.

>>5455454
Nope.

>>5455421
Yellow is pretty hit and miss. There are some that I think are upgrades from Red/Blue, like Persian, Gengar, Ghastly, Ivysaur, and Mewtwo; but then there are quite a few downgrades like Mew, Haunter, Zapdos, Scyther, Snorlax, Starmie, Porygon...

I think overall Red/Blue still wins out in my book.

>>5455417
I like how Green vaporeon actually looks like a fish and not furbait.

>>5455389
plaguemon is literally just a "DUDE POKEMON BUT WITH SEX AND DRUGS AND PISS" hack. It's amazing how shit /vr/'s taste is when it comes to this franchise in particular.

>>5455321
Gens 3 and later are not /vr/ let's go is a remake, so that's ok. But you probably won't get very high opinions of it here though

>>5455421
They don't look like they only used 3 colors and shared palettes. Pretty cool.

>>5455579
who cares if it's a remake, it's not retro and not supposed to be on this board

>>5455590
Be careful not to tear a vein on such trivial things.

>>5455582
Western yellow colors used more colors. While Japan yellow sprites were in yellow and red.

>>5455613
Japanese RGBY were original gameboy games, they only featured full color when used on the Super Gameboy. When used on the Gamboy Color they were limited to preprogrammed palettes with 4 colors.

The International version of Pokemon Yellow is actually a backwards compatible Gameboy Color game. It was capable of playing on the Color with a full color pallet or on the original Gameboy with 4 shades of green/grey. It also had Super Gameboy support like all of the previous games so it could also play in Color on there as well.

>>5455417
>>5455417
Eh, there's a few that are relatively equivalent, and I kind of like the original Koffing sprite.

>>5455582
yellow is actually a gbc game

Anyone play Pokemon Prism? Probably the best romhack I've ever played aside from some questionable decisions.

>>5455253
i like that pidgey looks like a real bird in r/b

>>5456451

>>5456447
Don't think you can find it anywhere now.

>>5456481
Really? I downloaded it like last month.

>>5456464

>>5456486

>>5456481
>>5456484
http://pokemonprism.com/patcher.html

>>5456484
Hmm, I must be thinking of a different one. I thought it got nuked off the internet

>>5456481
>>5456484
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/264187806904090625/451992632336580618/pokeprism0229.rar

>>5456487
Last one

>>5455181
Being retarded is not only allowed but encouraged on nu-/v/

>>5456663
All humans are retarded

>>5456678
There are half a dozen humans on 4chan. The rest are millennials and zoomers.

>>5457135
Gen x and boomeers most retarded.

im looking forward to setting up crystal clear and stadium (or 2, need to figure out which) on my wii tomorrow
I wonder what kind of team Ill build, bugs? poison/rocket? eevee?

>>5455253
>Butterfree
>Nidoqueen
>Nidoking
>Muk
>Magikarp
>Gyarados
>Lapras
>Snorlax
It will never not amaze me how awesome those sprites are. Especially because most of them were done so poorly ever since.

>>5457156
Thanks for proving my point kiddo

>>5455457
You’re a faggot

>>5457537
>>5457556
Stfu queers

I kind of miss the janitards

>>5455208
this guy will and always will be my favourite normal type

>>5455417
I'll never understand why they put mewtwo in a gorilla pose

>>5458450
It makes a certain kind of sense to me. The impression I got from the original games is that Mewtwo was supposed to be sort of beast-like: Hyper intelligent, yet uncivilized and incredibly volatile. I wouldn't necessarily say that I prefer one over the other though.

>>5458450
I think it's an intimidating action pose, much better than him just standing straight up. He looks like might just fucking lunge at you.

>>5459001
I was gonna mention the 5000 Iq thing but that's alakazam. Either way it was before all the characterisation from the movies so you're probably right about the direction they took

I was absolutely shocked that only recently I found out that you can cut any tall grass with Cut. How the fuck did no one ever told me this?

>>5459029
Honestly I would imagine Mewtwo would be smarter than Alakazam, although the 5000 IQ thing is clearly just a cartoonish exaggeration that GF didn't put any real thought into. I guess what I'm saying is more that Mewtwo, for as intelligent as it was, seemed to go straight from being a superpowered lab rat to hanging out at the bottom of a cave. Even if it has the ability to learn insanely fast and solve complex problems, it probably never needed to learn how to do anything except crush stuff with its psychic powers. Things like good posture were just never on its radar.

>>5458450
>>5459001
I always liked that. Makes him look like a dangerous genetically modified abomination.

>>5455385
SMT x Digimon would be tight

>>5455582
Pokemon Crystal has absolutely gorgeous spritework (though it's a full-on GBC game, it's not backwards compatible like Gold and Silver)

>>5459043
>hanging out at the bottom of a cave
According to its pokedex entry in later games, it's a savage and dangerous beast that loves fighting and pushing the limits of its own powers. So it was probably in that cave to challenge itself, since that's where the most powerful pokemon in the game all hang out...

>>5455417
I think Clefable looks better in Green.

>>5459040
>you can cut any tall grass with Cut.
What, seriously? You're full of shit, anon.

>>5459189
Can vouch, give it a try anon.

>>5459189
No, he's right, although I think they removed it in Gen 5 or 6.

>>5459189
If you're stuck somewhere having to move through grass and your team is down to one near-dead Pokemon, you're fine if you use cut to inch your way through the field towards civilization.

>>5455208
Pokemon Snap is one of the comfiest games I've ever played.

>>5459091
With the exception of Stantler and Smeargle, all these designs are top notch. My only issue is that quite a few of the Gen II Pokémon are fairly worthless in battle.

>>5459261
Pokemon Snap is fucking awesome, I just seriously wish there were more to it. Six levels and one bonus stage just doesn't cut it. Pokemon Snap is the sort of game that could really use an extensive ROM hack in my opinion, although I dunno how difficult that'd be to pull off for that sort of game.

>>5459296
I dunno about that. I mean, Skarmory, Blissey, Donphan, Tyranitar, and many others were very good when they were first introduced. The biggest issue with Gen 2, to me, was that a solid chunk of the new Pokemon that were good in a fight (and some of the cooler ones if you ask me) were locked away until Kanto.

>>5459102
I can definitely see that. In-general, I really liked how mysterious the story behind Mewtwo was. Gen 2 had this down as well, with the legendary Pokemon being, y'know, legends that you had to go out of your way to find out about. The whole "mandatory world saving plot" schtick is one thing that I definitely don't like about the later generations.

Geodude sprite is weird. I always saw it like pic related, but either this is wrong interpretation or he just looks really weird?

>>5459338
>a solid chunk of the new Pokemon that were good in a fight (and some of the cooler ones if you ask me) were locked away until Kanto
Yeah which makes zero sense from a story perspective, they're supposed to all be Johto-native. Tyranitar isn't obtainable until post-Kanto!!!

Also some of the Johto pokemon had absurdly low encounter rates. Like I think Skarmory was 1/64?

>>5459491
Not all of them meant to be Johto but new Kanto.

>>5459476
I think that's pretty much what it's supposed to look like; that's how I see it too.

>>5459491
I get what they were going for making a lot of them rare. The games were treated more like sequels rather than entries in a franchise, so the new Pokemon were meant to be sort of hidden away. And like >>5459501 said, they were meant to be new to both Johto and Kanto (one of the NPCs mentions that Jasmine changed her Gym's type to something newly discovered). But from a game design perspective, it's really shitty that you couldn't realistically use Houndour, Slugma, etc. on your in-game team without trading.

>>5459045
>>5459001
>>5458450
That's Mewtwo's best sprite I think. Also, Mew's best sprite is also the Red/Blue one.
It really looks like it's a special dude, on Yellow he looks generic. I like the Green version of Mew though, looks really unsettling but it also looks special.

>>5456447
>Probably the best romhack I've ever played aside from some questionable decisions.

Such as?

>>5456451
I always liked that to. Most fags on /v/ though would use it as a way to crap on the old games.
>>5456464
Not bad but its definitely got a black iris in the old sprite. Should add it.

>>5459585
Not him, but it ironically suffers from some of the same problems that the original G/S/C did. A lot of the wild Pokemon in the second region are a bit too low leveled compared to the surrounding trainers, the second region itself is fairly empty, and, although the antagonists are pretty entertaining in their own right, they really come across more like the lackeys of a "real" main villain (I know that last one is pretty subjective). Of course, it suffers from these problems to a far lesser degree, and it still has a shitton of content. It honestly captures the spirit of the first few Pokemon generations better than any of GameFreak's later offerings.

I'm also forgiving of the second region being somewhat empty due to a C&D from Nintendo preventing the developer from truly finishing the game.

>>5455181
Trying to play vanillla gen 1 and gen 2 feels too tedious to really be enjoyable I feel.
>pokemon have awful learnsets, you have to rely entirely on TMs to have pokemon have a remotely decent move set and you only get one of each
>areas often have low diversity of pokemon with most areas having the same old ratattas and pidgies
>trainers have badly designed teams (in GSC there is a trainer who uses a level 2 Voltorb, they found near the THIRD gym)
>adding late game pokemon, typically the cooler stuff, is difficult as the level curves are terrible meaning that you'll have to grind like a mother fucker
Fortunately hacks fix a lot of this shit. Recently I've been playing Crystal Clear, a romhakc that makes gen 2 open world and the game adjust the gym leaders and trainers to how many badges you have, and it's been a lot of fun.

>>5459754
>open world and the game adjust the gym leaders and trainers to how many badges you have
I've wanted to see something like this in a Pokemon game for a while. Sounds awesome, I'll have to check it out.

>>5456464
>>5456486
>>5456487
>>5456512
These all look really cool

>>5459754
Just use a randomizer, literally fixes every problem you mentioned.

I don't know what is it, but R/B sprites look voluminous and solid.
Quality spritework all around bar a few exceptions but still even weaker ones like Geodude have a lot of attitude.
And R/B Golbat is GOAT.

>>5460060
I suggest it. My genuine only complaint is the they made a new E4 with their donut steels but honestly it'a not even that bad. I really enjoyed it and think it's an amazing hack with a crazy amount of effort put into it.

>game looks like old gen 1 or 2
>plays however like one of the more updated gens after 3
>uses only pokemon up to gen 2

To my knowledge no romhack does exactly this sadly. If there is even a single one I'd like to know of it.

>>5461994
Pokemon Prism is basically what you described, except the Pokemon are a hand-picked collection of 252 Pokemon from Gens 1-4. However, there's a pretty heavy emphasis on Gens 1-2, with most of the Gen 4 Pokemon I remember just being evolutions like Gliscor. I would highly recommend it, though. It's easily my favorite ROM hack, and I can't think of any other game that's done a better job of recapturing the atmosphere of the first two generations.

>>5455321
Technically you're allowed, any remake if a retro title is fair game. Wise to bet that /vr/ probably wont discuss it very far though

>>5459754
How does a fucking retard like me take the newest update and combinw with my crystal rom? I am fucking retard baby halp

>replay Red
>do the mew glitch with it's level decreased to 1
>finally get it, sweet
>go to computer, want to withdraw mew
>game freezes
Oh well, that's what I get for cheating. At least I caught it and it's in the pokedex.

>>5457290
Agreed, especially with Butterfree. I also really like Beedrill's art in green there. I normally hate the "soul/soulless" bullshit that plagues /v/, but it definitely applies in this case for me. It's probably more of a nostalgia thing than anything else, but still.

>>5459476
>get lost, bitch nigga

>>5455382
SMT is not as good as Pokemon, anon.

>>5459754
you get it
>>5460091
no it doesn't you retard.
read his post three more times.

>>5464162
You uh do realize you can edit movesets in the randomizer, right? You can allow them to learn any type specific move, or if you're feeling frisky let them be able to learn any move.

There is a difficulty slider for all gym, trainer and rival fights. Want them to have same type Pokémon but 50% higher level than normal? You can do it. You can set what types they use and also if the types are randomized or not.

You can change it so every zone has either the same amount of different Pokémon as the original (but different ones being able to get caught) or have every zone have like (iirc) 10+ different ones be able to get caught.

Do I need to continue? The only thing he asked that you can't do is change how tms work, but it's easily done by just duping the TM to 99 so Pokémon can learn it.

>>5455181
i wish we could go back.

HEY GUYS DONT FORGET ME

>>5455424
agreed they are in weird poses that just don't look good in sprite form.

>>5463415
Not a patch, you just need the actual rom.

Here's the download for 2.0, this is the newest version that added some smaller things like following pokemon and few more starter pokemon options. I believe the creator has no intentions to continue the project, there really is nothing left to do. Once you download this just run it in an emulator and you're good to go, no patching.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/vl1dc88faqwzx3q/crystal-clear-2.0-beta.zip/file

>>5455526
Oh yeah? Recommend a better adult oriented hack then, you fucking shitter.

>>5464521
Insurgence, which got recommended twice already this thread if you were able to comprehend English.

>>5464526
Thanks for the rec anon

You guys are 27yrs old and older talking about pokémon...

>>5455526
>>5464521
>>5464526
>pokemon
>"adult"
Any hack that has shit like drugs or gore is automatic garbage. It's a series about cartoon monsters, it's meant for children and trying to make it into something "adult" is genuinely edgy.

>>5464537
All video games are toys, you're not any better for playing shumps, fps games, or whatever you play.

>>5464538
I've only played Insurgence just to see what the hype was, and for the laughs since it has people commit suicide in it. Cmon now, who wouldn't be curious about a kids game hack that reads like a MySpace fanfic?

>>5455181
Pokemon Yellow had the best sprites out of the 4.

>>5464537
>not fucking your gf while she plays pokemon on an emulator

>>5464554
kek, enjoy your ban and get rekt, you old fuck. Find something else to do in your mom's basement bitch.

>>5464574
epic post zoomer, thanks for adding to the discussion.

>>5464551
>>5459091
>>5455421
The GBC sprites were the best. I don't know how it went downhill afterwards.

>>5456464
I love how ordinary the original designs are, especially at base level.

>>5457290
Scyther looks like he's ready to fuck shit up.

And yeah I'm not going to do the "soul/soulless" meme thing, and I greatly enjoyed the 3DS entries, but the game definitely lost something when it made the leap from 2D sprites to 3D models. You can definitely see the manga influence in these original battle sprites, there's a great level of action and energy that's implied by just the way they're posed.

>>5459240
Or you could, y'know, just carry potions like a normal person :P

>>5465001
You have a penis and will literally never be a woman.

>>5464443
Thank you. I have 1.3 so I've been wanting to upgrade

>>5455270
Sounds like something >>5455260 would say...

>>5455253
Would you switch out for a chosen Gen 1 pokemon for an unused Poke, and if so which one?

>>5465253
Moar

>>5465253
Don't know which I'd get rid of, but I want Gorochu.

>>5465258
Swap out Rhyhorn with Omega and have Rhydon be a single evolution line

I ordered a Meowth mask for my son from Japan so my wife, him, and I could go as Team rocket for Halloween a few years ago.

Sooooo many jealous nerd dad's.

>>5455526
Let he who has never fantasized about banging a Pokemon character cast the first safari stone.

Ahh Jessi. The original bad girl.

>>5465258
Why does clefairy look like a creepy egg monster? that design is really unsettling.

>>5459754
I'd use Crystal Clear but now I need my randomizer fix. Is there any way to randomize it yet?

>>5466337
I'm not too familiar with randomizers, is it a patch or a rom itself? If a patch you can try patching the rom in >>5464443 and seeing if that works.

>>5466337
Doubt it, rom hacks as you know don't work with randomizers unless they get manually added which is a pain.

>>5459296
I dunno, I love GSC/HGSS a lot but most of the gen 2 designs don't do it for me, they're a bit too cutesy for my taste. That said they're still better than the garish and overly detailed (or overly simplified) designs from later gens.

>>5465008
I'm a futanari XD

Easy on the shitpost OT.

>>5463685
>>5465001
I agree. I think they simply look bad, it's the lack of color and contrast that makes them look too bland.

>been doing a Nuzlocke run on Gold
>get to Whitney and her infamous Miltank
>power level my pokemon until they get to at least 25
>beat Whitney without losing anyone
>take great satisfaction when she cries after losing
Cry harder, bitch.

>>5467809
Why is this so sexy and modern anime is so boring

>>5469104
Because, just like modern western animation, anime has become so repetitive and manufactured so that it could appeal to the average manipulative shmuck.

>>5469097
Grinding in a nuzlock
Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose?

>>5469704
pretty sure that totally defeats the purpose
or does he think nuzlock runners are filthy casuals that cant beat a miltank?

>>5469097
You could have just played in the Game Corner, won 100 coins, bought an Abra and traded it for a Machop in the 5th floor of the Dept.Store. Machop devastates any Normal-type Pokémon.

>>5459754
>trainers have badly designed teams (in GSC there is a trainer who uses a level 2 Voltorb, they found near the THIRD gym)
If you're talking about the juggler guy, I think it was supposed to be a gimmick. He only has Voltorbs, every one apart 4 levels from the other. So a lv2, then a lv6, a lv10...

What really baffled me about Crystal, like you said, is how it just feels like a rethread of Red/Green in terms of Pokémon you find. You only really start finding the new and cool stuff once you defeat Champion Lance.

>>5469713
I always wondered how nuzlock worked when you can just grind till one poke beats everything.

>>5455310
His evolution is a bit boring though which is a shame.

>>5469713
>>5470545
I don't remember any rules that forbade grinding though

>>5470545
>>5470818
Some people don't consider it legit if you use a pokecenter more than once or twice.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Nuzlocke_Challenge

Big list of optional rules

>>5455181
For the first two gens, go here and /v/.

/vp/ is fucking autistic. They drove me from loving the series to hating it to basically stop playing altogether.

>>5464158
>SMT is not as good as Pokemon

>>5464158

>>5470557
>What's wrong with Persian?

>>5459338
t. zoomer

>>5471072
Didn't mean to greentext

>>5464443
any other quality romhack? I remember playing glazed but felt cheap

I think red and blue really benefit from the glitches. Fire red/LG improve a lot, but it just feels like somethings missing when you cant mess with the game to do cool stuff.

Like the skeleton aerodactyl and kabutops. Pure nightmare fuel but rad as hell

>>5471315
>skeleton aerodactyl and kabutops
Nice photoshop, Mr. Angelfire Website.

>>5464383
Loved it. Either this or Explorer of Sky is my favorite spin off Pokémon game. A shame the sequel imposes so many obnoxious rules. I mean, the new cards and new NPCs to battle are damn nice but not when they demand 4 Pikachus, 20 Fighting Energies, 1 Ace of Clubs and 5 peanuts to battle you.

>>5471646
anon...

>>5471315
Catching an Unregistered HyperCam 2 was near impossible if you didn't save your master ball.

>>5471315
I'm inclined to agree. The crit rate being super high really helps certain pokemon like Charizard who has weak STAB moves but makes up for it with a 100% crit Slash so he can use his large attack. In Gen2 Feraligatr has similar high attack but low special for shitty STAB moves, but his crit doesn't have the broken crit chance so it feels really underpowered. Razorleaf Gen1 to Gen2 is the same way. Your bread and butter primary offensive move shouldn't have 55 attack power. With crits its great, but in Gen2 Meganium ends up as the worst starter in the history of the franchise.

>>5469097
>Feels accomplished because he won by spending an hour running around in a field with fast forward on until his entire team was 5 levels higher than her ace.
Great strategy pal, but y'know all you need to give yourself a decent chance is to land a couple of sand attacks.

>>5455253
That green Hypno sprite is downright eerie

>>5471101
Prism, Bronze, and Twitch Plays Pokemon Crystal Anniversary are pretty cool.

>>5471646
There are actually variants of missingno that will pull those sprites, however you usually have to go way out of your way to make them show up.

>>5469704
>>5469713
How? You can still get your Pokemon killed while leveling. More easily then you might think

>>5464383
unironically best pokemon game desu

>>5472261
>>5472538
Why would they even have those sprites in the game?

>>5455253
Damn green version sprites look downright aggressive compared to rb

>>5469741
Pokémon will do that shit though where they throw in some random ass trainer that will have 3 or 4 of the same Pokémon that go hobby a certain increment of levels with each one and then maybe the evolution as the last Pokémon. I think it's just a way to give players an easy grind for their lower level Pokémon

>>5472319
Not him, but "decent chance" is about the same as "run ended" when doing nuzlocke challenge.

>>5472607
They show up in the museum in Pewter City.

>>5472538
It's actually not that difficult to make them show up. There's a way to make the games randomly spawn a level 80 Starmie which has the required special stat to make Kabutops, Aerodactyl, and the Ghost sprite from Lavender town appear.

It's actually probably the best way to encounter missingno in pokemon yellow because the old man glitch doesn't work and encountering the other variants of missingno usually crashes the game.

>>5472673
Isn't that kind of risk the whole point of hardcore challenges like Nuzlocke, though? If you play overly carefully and spend hours grinding to be overpowered then you might as well just play the normal way and not waste as much time. The fun in these kinds of challenges is derived from the risk and danger inherent in every fight, which grinding completely alleviates and trivializes.

>>5469713
nuzlocke is an overhyped casual thing, you can beat all the games with just one pokémon without grinding. Just beat most of the trainers with your starter and swipe every gym leader.

nuzlocke is literally adding stupid rules so you can post "oooh this is so hard silly me haha i only have a bidoof now" on social media and feel special about it. fuck off nuzlockefags this game isn't hard.

>>5472730
Pokemon isn't hard, but some people WANT it to be hard, and that's why they impose special rules on themselves. Some people use it to attentionwhore (as a lot of people do with most things in life in this cancerous, self-aggrandizing age of social media) but a lot of people just think it's more fun for the game to be harder than normal.

>>5472740
I can't see how nuzlocke could possibly be fun. To make crystal harder for myself I'm not using my starter and instead just collecting mons I think are cool and leveling the entire team up in unison. This leaves all my mon well under the level they should be but type spread is pretty good. I've been destroyed by some trainers but it's more fun for sure

>>5472780
We established you don't like nuzlockes like ten posts ago you fucking autist, no one cares if you don't play the mode.

>>5472780
It's fine that you don't like it, I was just trying to explain the appeal. Not everything has to appeal to everyone, and not everything that doesn't appeal to you specifically is bad.

>>5459091
When did the sprites become not upscaled? Was it yellow or s/g?

>>5472780
>I'm not using my starter
I usually do this for variety's sake, but in gen 2 the catchable mons suck so bad it feels pointless to ditch the starter.

>>5473131
do you mean the catchable mons in the starting areas or all the cathable mons?

>>5473183
The ones near the beginning, mostly. Low type diversity and not many that evolve into anything decent. Pokemon available in the first few areas are often weak but gen 2 feels especially bad to me.

>>5473183
>>5473250
It does spread to the rest of the game a little bit as well. Notoriously, no Houndour available in Johto

the color hack of red/blue is neat. that said, i wish there was an option to use the gen 1 sprites with the gen 2 colors. i get that 2's sprites look better but sometimes you want to be a little purist.

Nuzlocke is overrated when it comes to difficulty and grinding, but underrated when it comes to giving you a different team on every playthrough.

>>5473471
i agree. nuzlockes ultimately amount to grind now or grind later.

>>5473074
>>5473085
Lmao I'm not even the same guy that I guess you were arguing with. I just saw the nuzlocke post and decided to share my two cents being
1. I don't find them fun since they just force you to grind like fuck
2. You can make up your own rules to play the game that don't have to abide by nuzlocke.

>>5473730
>You can make up your own rules to play the game that don't have to abide by nuzlocke.
Not everyone is equally creative and some people would rather follow a set of interesting rules made by someone else than to try to make their own.

>>5473730
There's a general rule of thumb for nuzlockes that most people follow, and a few optional ones people use most of the time like releasing starter after first wild Pokémon. As for leveling, a trend I'm seeing now are limits which people are getting from this reddit thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/nuzlocke/comments/8cejlk/level_limits/#thing_t1_dxej0nm

It isn't the hardest challenge in the world, but the lack of Pokémon you're allowed to catch due to the rules means that if you follow the level limits it ACTUALLY makes stuff hard.

im pissed off i cant play crystal on my ds. thinking about getting emerald but im a boomer and never accepted the newer pokemon. is it gud? should i get another gba pokemon instead?

>>5474330
Yes of course it's good. They get worse each gen, more or less, but 3, 4, and 5 are still fun games. 5th gen are some people's favs.

Am I the only person who liked the ui design of gen 1 and 2 of the Pokemon games? It was consistent and minimalistic unlike the new games where there are too many colors and everything looks needlessly complex.

>>5474330
>im pissed off i cant play crystal on my ds.
Why can't you?

>>5474119
Separate level limits for each of the Elite Four seems obnoxious. Does that mean you have to have separate pokemon of different levels for each fight in the series? What a pain, why not just have one level limit for the whole thing?

>>5472607
If you go to the Pewter Museum and look at the displays, you'll see them there. Kind of a neat idea at least, being able to see ancient Pokemon.<span class="fortune" style="color:#0893e1">

Your fortune: You will meet a dark handsome stranger[/spoiler]

>>5474393
Gen I's UI is simple but way too archaic. II's is I's but a lot more polished and pleasant to look at. Both are pretty good, by GB's standards.

/vp/ is pure cancer

>>5474421
No you're right, it's retarded unless there is some explanation you and I aren't understanding. I've done a few runs before using the general rules and then allowing my max Pokémon level to be equal to the next gyms ace, or some slight variation.

For E4 I just do the same thing. At the end of the day, nuzlockes aren't obviously supposed to be impossible just a fun way to play the game using potentially shit Pokémon using a level cap to make it difficult.

>>5475035
well I mean more the aesthetic and not really the functionality. I liked how every frame used the same sprites and even in gen 2 you could change it. But in the newer games every other UI object had its own designed frame which makes it seem like it comes from another game. It was just to eclectic.

>>5475249
Oh, that. Yeah, that has annoyed me to no end since Gen III. I don't understand why they don't make it all the same since sometimes the different frames clash a lot with each other.

>>5475235
I think my biggest problem with the Nuzlocke setup is that it doesn't really target the actual reasons why Pokemon games are so easy: The player has effectively unlimited resources when both traveling through dungeons and fighting bosses. Really, all you need to do to beat any trainer is be strong enough to survive two of their attacks (healing item->attack->repeat), and being able to run away without any penalty means wild Pokemon will never be an issue. Neither of those things are really dealt with by the rules of a Nuzlocke, and the idea of permanent death just means you need to waste time grinding up a replacement team member.

That's not to say there's no value in doing a Nuzlocke run. It definitely forces you to use Pokemon you wouldn't have otherwise considered, and the risk of losing them forever makes them seem more like valued teammates. But if you want to create artificial restrictions to give the games a decent-but-not-ridiculous level of challenge, all you really need to do is limit your use of items.

>>5475278
In theory yes, but people avoid most trainers just because there are so many unknowns that could happen ie. crits. By doing so you miss out on the major source of income, which in turn means less healing items.

But yeah, the nuzlocke runs only work with strict level requirements to make it more fun and less just grind to win like most other Pokémon. I've had a ton of fun recently doing a randomized nuzlocke run where I set my max level to 2 above gyms ace, it's a fucking blast.

>>5475278
if leveling up and grinding was removed from the game and instead moves were a bit more complex so that you can figure out strategies to defeat enemies. Would that solve the root issue? Maybe leveling not totally removed but limited.

>>5475416
There's only so much strategy you can do 1v1, and what you're suggesting would just drag on every battle for way too long. Interesting, but it'd be DOA

>>5475416
There is a hack that makes gaining exp impossible, it indeed gets kind of interesting when combined with a randomizer.

>I dont like v.p.

One of the weirded boards on 4chan.
>trifling story about pokemon comes out
>50 separate active threads about it
>can't otherwise discuss pokemon

>>5475298
I once died in the first random battle of the game (Crystal) because I chose Chikorita and a level 4 Pidgey critted me two times in a row. I don't even know how the hell Chikorita didn't use its Berry. But it didn't.<div class="like-perk-cnt">&#x1F603;</div>

>>5475453
Does that mean you have to catch pokemon that happen to be the levels you need?

>>5475467
Ye, advancing in the game means having to defeat trainers that often have stronger creatures than you do, in order to gain access to more mons that are found with higher levels that help you stay relevant. You have to keep rotating your team, which is admittedly kind of not ideal for a pokemon game, but makes for a pretty neat puzzle.

>>5455357
Only good thing about Bulbasaur is the leach seed toxic combo and razor leaf crit. He's a beast if you set him up right.

>>5475561
absolutely satisfying when you do get to use it.
Shame that you can usually one to two shot most things with the other starters late game though...

>>5475535
That's a cool idea.

>>5474414
Nintendo DS only reads GBA cartridges and yes I could do workarounds in order to emulate but then the ingame clock doesn't work which for me makes Pokémon

>>5476484
>in game clock doesn't work
wut? yes it absolutely does unless you're using fast forward in the emulator

>>5455181
charamander is best starter change my mind

>>5476668
>Not choosing an 50 kilo tons turtle with cannons from it's shell.

Pokemon Crystal was the golden mean in pokemon size if not game

250ish pokemon was good, plenty to play with but also not too much that you don't know 1/3 of the beasts. Many gen2 pokemons were related to gen1 which made it extra nice.

I'm still not use to ruby/emerald even after all this year. They seem to disconnected and off
and there is no way in hell I'm going to play modern titles with +500 weird pokemangothepolls.

>>5476668
Hear me out.

>>5476878
>>5476749

playing childrens rpgs on easy mode

>>5476882
When I was a kid I had no idea, I just liked dinosaurs and the color green so I picked bulbasaur. That's why he's the best starter.

>>5476914
Same here

>>5476882
It really only matters for the first Gym. As soon as you hit Misty, you'll have almost inevitably encountered some Grass types, and the game is designed so that you'll pretty much always have access to the right type of Pokemon for any given Gym from that point on. And even Brock's Pokemon don't have any moves that're super effective against Charmander in RBY. He's basically just a tutorial for type effectiveness.

>>5477407
I'm pretty sure you can wreck Brock with Nidoran. They can learn a move that's super effective against rock. Low kick? Can't remember.

>>5475416
>>5475420
>>5475453
just now trying a no exp run on silver using gameshark and its pretty fun. I was only able to beat the first gym by chance using a gastly's hypnosis.

>>5477417
Double Kick isn't it? at that level you could also have a butterfree with confuse or paralyze them with pikachu

>>5477417
Actually that was added in for Yellow as well as Mankey in that route to the left of Viridian. In RBG, Nidoran doesn't get Double Kick until level 42, but it gets it at level 12 or something in Yellow. In that case you might legitimately be fucked with just a Pikachu, so I guess GameFreak decided to give the player a few other options.

>>5477657
Butterfree will do the trick, but both of his Pokemon are immune to Thunder Wave.

>>5477417
Or just use Charmeleon with ember. Their special stat is really low and they don't even have rock throw.

>>5464537
Hell no.
I'm 26. Don't lump me in with these losers.