/vr/ - Retro Games

https://youtu.be/oBSwzJheylQ

>>5442854
https://youtu.be/FASUZRYs0fM

>>5442854
Imagine the smell, haha

>>5442854
God, I wish that was me.

>>5442891
Very nice! Have only been able to try out a few Gottliebs tables. Hope to try this one out someday.
>>5442917
Almost posted that one myself. Not sure if any other pinball tune is as catchy.

Here's another:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XaPK5_hDn44

>>5442854
I've never seen a real pinball table, so I'm gonna have to say Kirby Pinball on the Game Boy.

When you sink the ship in Black Rose. Skip to 06:45.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J38EqLOuFGw&t=6m45s

I finally got to play Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness, and Pub Champion. All great machines with fun, clear rules. I'm really not digging the new Wizard of Oz and Pirates of the Caribbean machines. They are really big and have so many modes on them it is hard for a beginner to play or even understand what is going on without sinking $20 of quarters into them. They also have really wide ball drains which require you to be tilting.

>>5442954
Are you one of these "big butts stink" people? As long as they shower daily they don't smell any worse than any other ass.

Here's another tune. Pic related of course.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oe1zqOSWdv0

>>5443089
>Attack from Mars, Medieval Madness
Both are fun but I really love AfM. This close >---< to getting a high score last time i played. Haven't tried a pub champion. Yeah, I'll always play new pins but will then slowly gravitate back to mid 80s - late 90s tables after a little while.

>>5443031
>never seen a real pinball table
Here... use this: https://pinside.com/pinball/map

>>5443031
How to find pinball tournaments in your area:
US, Canada, Australia, Japan
https://pinballmap.com/
Worldwide:
https://pinside.com/pinball/map
Europe:
https://findapinball.com/en/
Tournaments:
Depending on where you live, there may be a facebook group for fans in your area.
Free virtual pins:
Pinball Fx 3
Zaccaria
Pinball Arcade
Stern Pinball Arcade

>>5443163
But I like it when it smells like an actual ass, it makes me turned on haha

>he enjoys watching balls bounce around
nigga you gay or somethin?

>>5443594
>you gay or somethin?
Nothing gay about pinball fren

>>5442854
I've got an IFPA profile, stead top 10 in my state. Rarely play video games anymore cept for retro.
My favorite table is Paragon but i'm currently enjoying Deadpool and Ray Borgs amazing Munsters table.

>>5443576
Kill yourself, you filthy animal.

>>5443548
disgusting pic, my dude

>>5443089
I can't really speak for WoZ since I haven't played one in a few years now, and I just haven't had much playtime on JJP PotC(doesn't the compass always point to the highest-scoring shot you can make at any given moment?), but I have to say from my experiences on Hobbit that JJP does a pretty damn good job attempting to educate the player on what you're supposed to shoot for during modes. Shots to aim for were very clearly indicated and had numerous callouts, not to mention the book screen which always had the mode timer and "next shot" objective as well as mode progress displayed.
At least it's not like modern Sterns which have almost no feedback whatsoever on whether or not you're doing anything right.

>>5442954
cologne and stale smoke. Everything would smell like stale smoke, really

>>5443821
>Everything would smell like stale smoke
Ahhhhh.... the smell of liberty... back when America was free..

>>5443830
Zoomers don't remember being asked if they want smoking or non-smoking when walking into a resturant. Now THAT'S freedom and we've since lost it.

>>5443841
As a so-called "boomer" that was a really shitty of the old days we can leave behind. Lead, plastics, tobacco. Though Monsanto and others are making sure it's even worse in the current day.

>>5442854

>>5443853
I grew up around smokers so I don't even mind the smell when I'm in it like at a bar, it's just how it fucking permeates everything when you leave. It's all you can smell, even taste. Don't miss it.

>>5443738
WoZ and PotC just drain so extremely fast unless you know exactly what you are doing.. If I recall they don't even have a ball save.

>>5443841
>Now THAT'S freedom
Preach it anon

>>5443871
>don't even mind the smell when I'm in it like at a bar
Yeah, I can understand a place like apple bees not having smokers because it's more of a family oriented restaurant but some hole in the wall bars should still be allowed to have smokers. Should really be up to the business iMo.

Someday I'll be top ten in my state.
Thoughts:
Lexy Lightspeed and the P3 Multimorphic system are great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er4Pc7PkrSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4x2PcpdsBY

The Room System in Alice Cooper's Nightmare is really interesting. See attached pic. You start at the bottom center, and it takes 2 left orbits and 2 right orbits to qualify a mode. Each orbit you shoot will progress you on the map-diagram at the bottom-center of the screen. You start at the bottom of the map. Left orbits send you NE, and right orbits send you NW. Each room of the map has different rules and objectives to it, so it matters what order you shoot the four orbits in. After each mode you go back to the bottom of the map.

I don't know if any game has ever had something where the code was actually spatial in this way, instead of just using spatial analogies like in the maps in WoZ, Hobbit, and PotC18.

>>5443995
You can see what I mean in this video:
(the code is still early)
https://youtu.be/qoau2Jdz7G4?t=470

In other news, here's a pic of Nancy and Frank Sinatra playing pinball.

>>5443915
They do but are disabled on factory default settings, which is pretty bullshit. I have my Hobbit set for 10 seconds which IMO is more than reasonable. There's also the matter of learning to steel your nerves and trust the center post if the ball looks like it's heading straight down the middle.

>>5443863
Brap-Posters git and stay git!!

>>5442854
This photo is from 1978 and the girl is Playboy Playmate Vicki Wilt.

>>5442854 (OP)
This photo is from 1978 and the girl is Playboy Playmate Vicky Witt.

>>5442854
This photo is from 1978 and the girl is Playboy Playmate Vicky Witt.

>>5443821
You can also almost hear the REO Speedwagon tunes playing over the sound system.

There's no good videos on Youtube but Dungeons and Dragons has a great soundtrack

Bump

This is the most amazing pinball clip you will see this week. Robert Sutter. Maybe someday I'll make it into a gif.

Also: here's a pinball editorial cartoon from the 70s.

>>5445202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9054&v=IR3vkGH0mIw
Forgot the link.

>>5445206
>6hrs 45min
Can you narrow down what your trying to show?

>>5445252
It has a timestamp, which means it automatically starts the video at the time I'm indicating. Does that not work for you?

>>5445261
Nope starts from the beginning.

>>5445272
2:30:50. Sorry.

>>5445068
Photo is from Wildfox's Spring 2016 catalog. Not vintage, they just used a photo tint to make it look like an old Polaroid.

>>5445279
Impressive! My backhand is terrible and this guy makes it look so easy.

>>5443853
Yep, I don't miss that at all. Everything smelled like shit. Smokers of course didn't notice since they already fucked their olfactory system.

https://youtu.be/_vh23SVO5dM
1:00:56
Unique save.

If you don't understand a game, you can always look up videos of people playing it online. Or check the rulesheet. Or study the playfield at length.

>>5442854
My favorite tunes are also from my favorite table "Bride of Pin Bot". I just love those futuristic tunes, sound effects and voice samples on this Metropolis inspired table and also it's metallic look. Some people don't like the machine for it's repetitiveness gameplaywise, but of all the Pin Bot Tables I prefer this one over the other two any time. But I heard this table was a bitch to keep in shape because of all the moving parts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_PcgkBup9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl94pKSpB_w

>>5442954
The only stink will be when she takes those roller skates off.

>>5443548
*tilts*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5CSpCv24RI
Here's a video of the physical ball lock on Cosmic Cart Racing for the P3 system. I predict you will think it is the coolest thing you have ever seen.

Let's say I really like the video game Worms Pinball, is there a way to make it into a real pinball? (as far as I know it doesn't physically exist)

>>5445510
I've never played Worms pinball, but if it doesn't involve anything physically impossible than it can be made into a real pinball table. But to do so would require a small fortune of money, a short eternity of time, and a modest library of know-how.

>>5445456
>>5444348
Turns out she had an impressive 70s field of grass.

>>5445449
Love BoP also. Sure your mostly just shooting the one ramp but it's a fun table with a ton of charm.

>>5445529
>>5445449
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gjHT_DfgnE&t=3386s
There's a company that made a mod for Bride of Pinbot called Bride of Pinbot 2.0 that makes the rules deeper and adds a LCD Dot Matrix Display to replace the Alphanumeric. I don't know if you can still buy them, the company had a lot of problems. Also RIP Python.

>>5445560
It has a video mode, and you can create your own levels for the video mode and then add them into your game.
https://vimeo.com/125148018

Top Ten Dream Themes
Pokemon
Dogs Playing Poker
Gyaru Culture
Twin Peaks
Scott Pilgrim
My Little Pony
Smash Bros
King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard
Competitive Eating
PES

>>5446326
My dream table is one based off the film Bloodsport. This plays https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ4XHW5Q4gU during attract mode.

>>5445206
That table layout looks really familiar somehow... Is that a reskin of some existing machine or just similar in design? Almost like Timeshock! with an extra flipper and some minor differences.

>>5446679
AC/DC is not a remake and has not been remade. Some might say the ramps resemble the ramps on Spiderman or Star Trek, but nothing more than that.

Movies that would make a great pinball machine but are too serious to be made into a pinball machine:

No Country for Old Men
12 Years A Slave
Apocalypse Now
Watchmen
The Hunt
We Need to Talk About Kevin

>>5442917
/thread
Send that song out into space on a satellite; it's obviously the pinnacle of human achievement.

>>5446326
Dream Themes
Bettlejuice
Scooby Doo
Brendan Fraser Mummy
Hellboy comics

>>5446679
Stern's pins in general are pretty samey with only a small handful of outliers like TWD or Iron Maiden.

>>5446834
>Bettlejuice
Didn't know how much I wanted this pin until now.

>>5446772
Schindler's List would be some great pinball action.

>>5447802
I fucked those 3 girls

yo like I could never get into pinball, but for some reason I got hooked on the Waterworld game, and I didn't even like that movie even a little bit

>>5447851
Are you the United States educational system?

>>5447802
I would be such a great theme, right? Just imagine a little graveyard styled scoop with a cockroach toy with a "Hi, how are ya?" callout.

>>5445489
MAGNETS!?

http://hem.bredband.net/b257182/Cows%26Easter.htm
Lord of the Rings
>In attract mode, hit both flippers. then 6L R 9L R 6L R 9L R. You should hear the Balrog roar.

>Then get bash Balrog from the mystery award on ball 3 or 3 vuk shots.

>Enjoy bash Gary now!

>If consolation Balrog is turned off, you won't see it.

>If you start FOTR before you get it, you won't see it.

Has anyone done this? I can't find footage of it on youtube. I heard in an interview with Keith Johnson that Gary Stern thought the Balrog should be accessible to new players and made him put the consolation Balrog into the game. But I never knew about this little revenge.

It just occurred to me that as part of moving out of Texas next week, I'll no longer be able to go to any of the Pinballz locations in Austin. Mildly bummed

>>5443719
based faggot

Someones working on an EM styled Cuphead themed game for VPX that looks fantastic

>>5443548
Looks like the picture was taken at button mash.

>>5442854

id like pin her ball if you catch my drift
hehehe

>>5442854
I just got back from Arcade Expo and they had a lot of cool new and old machines. My favorite one however was not retro.

BRAP

Pinball has nothing to do with electronic games. You may as well talk about pool and foosball. Face it, pinball machines were for when people didn't have anything better to do.

>>5451093
I've played Big Lebowski and it's a fucking shame it didn't get a wider release. Dutch Pinball really had something, they just flew too close to sun. I also like their first game, Bride of Pinbot 2.0 (higher up in the thread).

How do they make the White Russian look like real liquid! It's incredible! Think of the possibilities! Waterworld! Aquaman! Finding Nemo! Jaws! Uh... Ocean's Eleven!

>>5451131
Well... I like pinball.

>>5451176
It is really cool, when it is lit up it looks very much like a real drink. I also really like the color dot matrix display over the HD screens a lot of other machines have that show direct clips from movies or shows.

You can still show video footage, but it has a nice low re solution display so it looks unique. Like when it does the long cycle passing through the women's spread legs you almost can't tell it is repeating. I really hope the company can get their stuff together and finish the order of 300 they had initially promised instead of like 30 there are now.

>>5451131
>Pinball are not electronic games

This is your brain on retardation

>>5451131
Pinball is run on electricity, boomer retard.

>>5451131
>Pinball has nothing to do with electronic games.

>>5442917
>GIVE ME YOUR MONEY!
god, what a game

>>5442917
Never played that one, but the original Black Knight was an absolute classic!
First table I ever saw with a "Magna-Save" magnet to keep the ball from going down a side chute (but you had to trigger it on time).

>>5445283
Damn. It tricked me

>>5443718
Don't mind him, he's a /v/irgin memetard

>>5451131
>pinball machines were for when people didn't have anything better to do.


so like video games then?

>my father bought Banzai Run in the 90s
>most of it stopped working (the bumpers, the elevator sometimes...)
>he doesn't want to get it fixed
>mfw

>>5451962
Have your dad sell it to me :^)

>>5451176
>How do they make the White Russian look like real liquid!

I'd guess they use some kind of translucent resin. Model railroaders and miniature wargamers use a similar trick to make "water" - the real thing doesn't look realistic at 28mm (or smaller) scale.

>>5451093
>My favorite one however was not retro.
We can discuss all new(er) pinball/arcade here on /vr. That being said I really like that table. Didn't play a ton because at the time it juuuussstt came out and it was a $1 a play iirc.

>>5452668
I like that the cursing is pretty subtle, I only heard one F bomb from it. Meanwhile Rob Zombie says "Right down the fucking drain" almost every time you lose a ball and it gets old.

My favorite older machine was Rocky and Bullwinkle I really like Bullwinkle's hat trick shot that triggers either a rhino, lion, or Rocky (which gives you an extra ball).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKPc2JeolCo

Going to play pinball next week. The place has a great assortment of pins. Last time I went they had a whitewater. Hope they still have it.

>>5445343
This, removal of smoking was purely a good thing

I have to give a lot of respect to people who repair these machines. I sat in for an hour break down of two machines at an expo, one EM and the other Solid State.

There were a lot of techs there different days who had specialties fixing different machines. Some even had giant blueprints they bought themselves.

Reasons why Sonic should have a pinball machine:
1. Sonic is all about "pinball physics", or so I'm told
2. Sonic has a lot of great sound effects that would be suitable.
3. The same goes for music.
4. Sonic has bumpers, ramps and other things that could be directly translated into a pinball machine.
5. Imagine if the left return ramp on White Water was in a Sonic game. Or the right upside-down ramp from Munsters.

>>5456625
Or one of the levels from Sonic Spinball could be made into a real table.

>>5456625
How hard would it be to make a custom machine. Could you have an arduino connected to the components feeding high scores and inputs to a raspberry pi or Windows PC?

>>5456845
There's a ton of homebrew stuff out there, I'm guessing it's fairly complicated tho

Someone finally shared the Beatlewitch table

Black Knight 3 has been announced, get hype!

>>5461720
https://arcadeheroes.com/2019/03/25/stern-pinball-teases-black-knight-sword-of-rage/

https://youtu.be/EwmUBc9_dEA
Here's the trailer. Looks fucking amazing.

>>5461723
>>5464284
Holy fuck. Never in my life would I imagine that this would exist.
When was the last time Stern made a game that wasn't based on some media franchise?

>>5464808
>When was the last time Stern made a game that wasn't based on some media franchise?
Let alone one based on a Williams table? Can't wait to try it!

Playfield pic

>>5464824
It worries me that the upper playfield is completely absent on the pro model.

>>5464824
LE/prem playfield

>>5464859
>>5464824
>>5464284
>stern with a toy that actual does something
Amazing

Wow, BK3 actually looks like a GOOD Stern pin. haven't seen that in ages.

>>5451287
I think you meant zoomer dipshit

>>5465756
>haven't seen that in ages.
Iron Maiden, my brother.

>>5445510
its very possible to make a real life replica IF you have some DIY skills. the basic table itself its just plywood with artwork, all the standard pieces are easy to find (flyppers, bumbers, rubber , plunger etc etc) the whole electronic control sounds and FX can be implemented on arduino or you could make it a "passive table" purely mechanical.

>>5443548
Thank you for this

Invalid Reasons to Dislike a Pinball Machine:
The shots are "clunky".
The theme is bad.
It's too expensive.
The rules are too complex.

>>5468927

Got a new best score on my local arcade's Gladiators. I also had a 92 million point game on Monster Bash, so it was a pretty good night all around.

Got a new best score on my local arcade's Gladiators. I also had a 92 million point game on Monster Bash, so it was a pretty good night all around.

>>5470254
>Gladiators
Although I haven't played a ton of Gottlieb tables, Gladiators is easily my favorite. Great pin.

What are some themes you think would make a good machine? I was thinking of maybe a grid style dungeon crawler themed machine.

>>5470880
Rough idea of how it would work. Points would make you automatically move and losing a ball takes you back to the start.

Or you could have bumpers move a space each hit or something.

>>5470880
I think with the use of lcd displays in modern machines that a golf game would be interesting. I know that there have been a few golf themes in the past but those haven't really used any actual golf machanics in them and have mostly been dime store Caddyshack themes. You could have difficult shots for longer drives, easier shots for shorter ones.

>>5471129
>>5470880
What about using ramps/orbits for movement? Left to move left, right for right, straight up the middle for forward. You could also have a bash target for monster encounters, like you run into a monster and have to hit the monster a set number of times or hit the ramps enough to run away.

>>5471406
I think having to focus on where you are going and watching a ball might be too difficult. Having it auto walk would be easier, it could run in a way to where it never goes down the same dead end twice.

The idea of random encounters could work, like some might 20,000 points to kill and start moving again, while rare monsters might take 1 million points and give a bonus when "killed" as the score is met. Could have different targets pop up for different monsters.

>>5470880
See my post farther up in the thread about moving through the rooms on Alice Cooper's Nighamare Castle.

I have a word document with ideas for a pinball machine where making shots progresses you through history. And the different modes would be historical events.

>>5471640
With auto walk though would ruin any feel of the dungeon crawler experience. What about branching paths, like auto walk until a point and then you have to pick a shot to go a direction before returning to auto walk?

>>5471656
I think I played that one once but it was so dark I couldn't see anything on the board in a dark setting.

>>5471684
The dungeon layouts would be randomized and you will get to the end eventually since it wouldn't go down the same dead end twice.
Another idea would be "leveling up" by points like every million, then 2, 6, 10 etc and speed being an attribute. So by say 20+ million points you are blazing through the dungeons at about one step a second.

I've been learning unity and can model in 3D, it seems pretty easy to make a virtual pinball machine game. Though I wonder if I could rig up something later where it half runs on a raspberry pi for the score board and DMD/dungeon display that also connects to an arduino for a real pinball machine board output.

>>5472791
Zen/Pinball FX has a couple of tables that utilize a level up system that work in a similar manner

>>5470254
>Got a new best score on my local arcade's Gladiators.
How many upper flipper loops did you do?

>>5473179
I wasn't counting, but considering I had a pyramid round multiplier of 3 for Calm Before the Storm and got the mega bonus into the 500 million range, I'd say somewhere around 50 or 60 loops. It was an even more impressive achievement because the upper right flipper on that particular Gladiators was pretty unresponsive and would occasionally just not engage.

Why Pinball FX is bad:
Flippers are too close together, making the games too easy.
Tables full of ramps that take forever to return to the flipper, killing flow.
Toys and gimmicks that are often less impressive than physical tables, despite not being constricted by physical laws or bill of materials.
Dangers aren't dangerous, because they go away if you let the tilt bob settle.
Spellathon-style rules. Rarely anything clever in that area.

The Williams recreations are cool though.

>>5442917
holy kino

>>5474091
never seen that one before ...
and bumping.

>Rise from your grave!
I'm saving this thread from extinction. If /vr needs anything it's more pinball talk

Castles:
Medieval Madness
Alice Cooper
Game of Thrones Premium
Mystery Castle