/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5439630
>Revelations: Persona
Really? It's not that good...

>>5439630
SotE is so underrated.

>>5439630
1992 works as well as anything.

1997

In order top 5 years:
2001
1998
2004
1996
1994

>>5439691
-Turok
-GoldenEye
-Jedi Knight
-Star Fox 64
-SotN

Strong case, anon...for the '90s at least.

>>5439630
1998 is indisputable as the best year. No matter what you like, what genre, what system, any criteria except individual game (if your favorite game of all time is Mario 3 or something) and 1998 wins by a mile.

This isn't even a new thing or worth arguing. Everybody knows it. Now if you want to say best year other than 98? I'd go 93 but that's because of my personal tastes for adventure games. Even then 98 almost beats it.

>>5439680
It had some really hard levels for sure, but that atmosphere, I mean hell it's fffin Star Wars.

>>5439696
Agreed.

Also:
-1991
-1989
-1983
-1978

>>5439702
1998 was truly a monster of a game year, that's for sure. Ocarina of Time. Star Wars Trilogy.

the 90s in general were a goldmine of classics

>>5439703
>It had some really hard levels for sure, but that atmosphere

Hard, but fair. The sewer level is still the stuff of nightmares. I need to take my own screenshots somehow of the actual game because it's not the same without a CRT, but you get the idea.

>>5439702
>1998 is indisputable as the best year.
Zoomers love parroting this but in retrospect 2001 had better everything. Don't bring up OoT, it was one of those "you had to be there in '98" kinda games. Half Life was cool, but HL2 was way more revolutionary. I'll give '98 credit for Parasite Eve, that's it.

>>5439721
>Don't bring up OoT, it was one of those "you had to be there in '98" kinda games.

What a zoomer opinion.

>>5439727
It's a game that runs at 15-20fps with sloppy Z-targeting and ugly low resolution graphics. It's worse than ALttP in every way except for having more dimensions.

>>5439736
>It's a game that runs at 15-20fps
haha now you're a confirmed zoomer. I don't give a fuck what OoT runs at, it's a sublime experience.

>>5439736
>sloppy Z-targeting
git gud

>>5439736
>. It's worse than ALttP
I could never get into that one because I simply dislike the way it looks.

>>5439630
1998

>>5439630
I think 1996 was better than 1998, even considering Ocarina of Time.
>Alien Trilogy (personal gem of mine)
>Resident Evil
>Tomb Raider
>Quake

>>5439756
>Sonic R

>>5439736
You can't post here until you're 18

>>5439630

I often look at 1996 as the year where 3D gaming became the mainstream and overtook 2D gaming.

That image is also missing
> Tomb Raider (Multiplatform)
> Sid Meier's Civilization II
> Virtua Fighter 3 (Arcade)
> The House of the Dead (Arcade)
> NiGHTS into Dreams (Sega Saturn)
> Panzer Dragoon Zwei (Sega Saturn)
> Guardian Heroes (Sega Saturn)
> Metal Slug (Neo Geo)
> PaRappa the Rapper (PS1)
> Twisted Metal 2 (PS1)

Though now that I think about it, 1995 is pretty underrated.

I'd say either 94 or 95.

>>5439912
Definitely flawed pictures

trying to come up with a top 10-20 games of all time list

>>5439712
Maybe because we consider games from that decade as classics in general?

How come arcade games don't exist for this board's regulars?

1995
> Full Throttle (DOS)
> The Dig (DOS)
> You Don't Know Jack (DOS)
> Command & Conquer (DOS)
> Crusader: No Remorse (DOS)
> Decent (DOS)
> Heroes of Might and Magic (DOS, Mac, Windows)
WarCraft II: Tides of Darkness (DOS)
> Hexen: Beyond Heretic (DOS)
> MechWarrior 2 (DOS, Mac, Windows)
> Worms (Amiga, DOS, multi-plat)
> Street Fighter Alpha (Arcade)
> Fighting Vipers (Arcade)
> Virtua Cop 2 (Arcade)
> Mortal Kombat 3 (Arcade)
> Time Crisis (Arcade)
> Tekken 2 (Arcade)
> Fatal Fury 3: Road to Victory (Neo-Geo)
> Pulstar (Neo- Geo)
> GEX (3DO)
> D (3DO)
> Return Fire (3DO)
> Zelda's Adventure (CD-i)
> Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES)
> Yoshi's Island (SNES)
> Chrono Trigger (SNES)
> Front Mission (SNES)
> Kirby's Dreamland 2 (GB)
> Earthworm Jim 2 (Genesis/ MD, SNES)
> Comix Zone (Sega Genesis/ Mega Drive)
> Ristar (Sega Genesis/ Mega Drive)
> Lunar: Eternal Blue (Sega CD/ Mega CD)
> Knuckles Chaotix (32x)
> Jumping Flash (PS1)
> Twisted Metal (PS1)
> Tactics Ogre (PS1)
> Wipeout (PS1)
> Rayman (PS1, Saturn)
> Sega Rally Championship (Arcade, Saturn)
> Panzer Dragoon(Saturn)

Whenever I think of 1995, I remember how great PC gaming was. It was also really the last great year for DOS gaming before Windows took over.

>>5440019
>> Tactics Ogre (PS1)

Meant to put this one as a Super Famicom game.

>>5439756
>sonic r
>herectic 2
>pokemon yellow
>hey you pikachu

get out

>>5439756
>sonic r
>heretic 2
>pokemon yellow
>hey you pikachu

get out

>>5440064
>Doesn't like Hey you Pikachu
>Implies this isn't abnormal

Alright shoot, what's Hip sir?

>>5439680
>>5439703
>>5439716

SotE felt more classic Star Wars than anything else that came out afterwards (the prequel trilogy, KOTOR, VII and VIII).
It makes me sad that we lost that distinct SW feel. Nowadays it's generic sci-fi with mental powers.

>>5439630
99, 97, 96, 94, 05, 03.

>>5440070
I can't wait until 2004 is retro !

>>5439656
The version that was localized for PSX especially. I think that it is a very interesting game, lots of cool concepts - but there’s almost too much shit going on. Worth playing and in my opinion the best of the Persona series pre 3, but not game of the year 96 material.

>>5439727
I agree with him - i had a n64 as a kid (and a PC) and loved and played a lot of games, but i had a total blind spot for Zelda, never bothered with it. Trying to get into it now is... difficult. Perhaps i'm just not into that genre (i'm not the biggest rpg fan). I've played other old classics i missed and enjoyed them, so i don't think its a matter of me being too 'mature' for games.

>>5439756
You've just changed my mind, i no longer think 1998 is peak vr.

>>5439956
Didn't the home video game and PC revolution kill arcades? I'm 30s and i always felt too young to have enjoyed arcades, i figure this board is full of 20s and 30s mostly with a sprinkling of 40s.

>>5440019
>1995
>Descent, the most kino 3D game

>>5440113
I'm not sure it's a game that you can sit down and enjoy unless you can really relax into it. Nothing about OoT jumps out and grabs you if you're trying to get into it nowadays.

>>5440114
How so? Between the years somewhere in the 90's is superb retro gaming..

damn why does everyone forget about 2000

>(based on Japanese releases)
Were Doom, Diablo and Daggerfall even released in Japan?
Shadows of the Empire for instance only came out in 1997.

>>5440184
Yes they were

>>5440186
In 1996?

>>5440187
Windows 95 version came in 97

Which brings me to which version is the ultimate one, N64 with comic book cutscenes or PC with full motion..

>>5439630
>based on Japanese releases
Yeah.

>>5440195
I played the shit out of sote on n64, but i have to admit the controls on PC are better. If someone were to mod the cutscenes (and missing sounds iirc?) into the PC version, that would be definitive.

>>5440064
Heretic 2 is awesome !

>>5439756
>>5440070
Speaking as a '99 boomer, 1998 is undeniably the best if it wasn't for Half Life. Retro FPS's are overrated in their own right, but Valve's schlock belongs in the bargain bin.

>>5440627
kys RTSnigger your genre is dead.

>>5439814
I'm almost 30 and I have mostly the same opinion on oot. Only someone with nostalgia goggles could enjoy it.

people over 30 years can have shit taste too.

>>5440669
Liking Oot could be shit taste too

>>5440676
hating it too my friend

>>5440686
I don't hate it, it just feels slow and sloppy compared to how well the 2d games played.

>>5439721
>Half Life was cool, but HL2 was way more revolutionary
did you really think you could get away with posting this?

>>5440774
>2dfag

>>5440801
> can't respond with an argument.
It's the peak of 2d vs early 3d. Of course it's going to feel sloppy in comparison

>>5439630
>anything N64
>best

>>5440838
>2d games
>good

>>5439630
>Mortal Kombat *
>not a flaming POS

>>5440851
seething sonynigger

>>5440212
Why isn't Rance-sama more popular on /vr/?

>>5440861
Triggered Mario cuck detected. 64 was objectively shit.
>>5440863
Go to hell, pedophile.

>>5440873
stay mad sonypony

>>5439949
>we consider games from that decade as classics in general
Not really, plenty of bad games were made back then too. I think it's mostly the fact that from 1990 to 2000 the leaps in technology were so huge, compared to say, 2010 to 2020. I think it really inspired and pushed many to make games that were literally the best they could possibly be at the time

>>5440873
Rance rapes everything that moves, he doesn't discriminate.

>>5440890
That's wrong. He doesn't rape children even if they want it.

1999

>>5440086
it is

>>5440782
Holy shit

>>5441012
Tell that to the rest of the board!

>>5439630
lol at those dumb rpgs on the list
The best thing of 96 was the release of Model 3, the most advanced platform yet.
https://youtu.be/ihBCn5hfOJQ

@5441201
no one gives a shit about your games arcadenigger.

1994
> Doom II (DOS)
> Jazz Jackrabbit (DOS)
> Rise of the Triad: Dark War
> NASCAR Racing (DOS)
> SimCity 2000 (DOS/ Mac)
> System Shock (DOS)
> X-COM: UFO Defense (DOS)
> Jagged Alliance (DOS)
> Star Wars: TIE Fighter (DOS)
> Wing Commander III: Heart of the Tiger (DOS)
> Theme Park (DOS, 3DO)
> WarCraft: Orcs & Humans (DOS)
> Heretic (Mac)
> Marathon (Mac)
> Sensible World of Soccer (Amiga)
> Virtua Fighter 2 (Arcade)
> Daytona USA (Arcade)
> Virtua Cop (Arcade)
> Puzzle Bobble (Bust-A-Move) (Arcade)
> NBA Jam Tournament Edition (Arcade)
> Darkstalkers: The Night Warriors (Arcade)
> X-Men: Children of the Atom (Arcade)
> Killer Instinct (Arcade)
> Tekken (Arcade)
> The King of Fighters '94 (Neo-Geo)
> Samurai Shodown II (Neo-Geo)
> Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
> Super Metroid (SNES)
> Stunt Race FX (SNES)
> Final Fantasy VI (III) (SNES)
> Hagane: The Final Conflict(SNES)
> Illusion of Gaia (SNES)
> Mega Man X2 (SNES)
> Breath of Fire II (SNES)
> Sonic the Hedgehog 3 (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Sonic & Knuckles (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Castlevania: Bloodlines (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Contra Hard Corps (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Dynamite Heady (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Monster World IV (Mega Drive/ Genesis)
> Earthworm Jim (Multi-platform)
> Castlevania: Rondo of Blood (PCE-CDROM)
> Disney's Chip 'N Dale: Rescue Rangers 2 (NES)
> Mega Man 6 (NES)
> Donkey Kong (GameBoy)
> Wario Land: Super Mario Land 3 (GameBoy)
> The Need for Speed (3DO)
> Road Rash (3DO)
> Tempest 2000 (Atari Jaguar)
> Motor Toon Grand Prix (PS1)
> King's Field (PS1)
> Clockwork Knight (Sega Saturn)

>>5440627
Half-life redefined the genre dude, before it came out they were simply frantic shooters lacking story and scripted scenes that don't take you out of the action. Then came the avalanche of neato mods some of which became their own staple series.

pssuh, maybe you don't 'get that

>>5441336
he said retro fps are overrated. Looking at the image he posted tells you he is a RTSfag.
Dont bother.

>>5439691
Where is Q2?

>>5441336
Taking scripted scenes, one of the most rudimentary forms of storytelling in games, that were present in other genres, is not innovation. If anything the FPS needing alien crabs popping out of walls (Quake II also did this), to give it the creative nudge out of arcade action (nothing wrong with just wanting to beat up some bad guys) is laughable.
Sure, Team Fortress Classic and Counter Strike may have come out Half Life but that is more of testament to the technology than the game itself.

>>5439656
>>5440087
I'm playing it right now and it's feeling like an all time great game, but it's early. Maybe things will slow down to a crawl later, but, so far, I'm negotiating with monsters and finding secrets in the forest and it's wonderful.

>>5441361
except it wasnt common in games.

>>5439630
>>5439691
>>5439756
As much as I like a lot of 96 releases, I believe that only Resident Evil, Duke Nukem 3D and Mario 64 were really influential. The rest of them were just sequels or rethreads of already existing franchises while the former three put in enough innovation that still mark their influence in games from today. 1997 and 1998 had more 5th gen releases that showed off what 3D gaming could deliver that earlier generations didn't and I feel that most of the classics from those two years hold up better like Goldeneye, GTA, OoT, Final Fantasy VII, Total Annihilation and Half-Life had a bigger impact on gaming as well. Other years like 1981, 1987, 1991 and 1993 also had a ton of great releases and so did 1994 like some anon mentioned. I'm not too familiar with games before 1979 so I don't know about the first and early second generation games. 6th gen has become a fine line between retro and not retro depending on if you look at just the presentation or the way games were distributed but gen 7 and later will always be too modern, even if it's been almost 15 years since the Xbox 360 got released.

>>5439691
Where did Metal Gear Solid go? That one is also considered a classic from 1998 even if I'm personally not that much of a Metal Gear fan.

>>5441441
massive oversight, my bad

>>5441462
If you think "1998" and MGS1 isn't one of the first things to come into your mind then you're a zoomer faggot.

>>5441464
There's so many good games that it slipped my mind when throwing together a tacky picture.

rude ass mutha.

>>5439630
1993 arguably

Doom
Mario All-Stars
Shinobi 3
Gunstar Heroes
Rocket Knight Adventures
Nexzr Special
Street Fighter II Turbo console, Super arcade
Bomberman 94
Lords of Thunder
Rondo of Blood
MegaMan X
Link's Awakening
NHL 94
Phantasy Star 4
Secret of Mana
Star Fox
Samurai Shodown
Kirby's Adventure
R-Type 3
Daytona USA
Myst
Sonic CD
Dungeon Explorer 2
Shadowrun SNES

>>5441502
also adding

NBA Jam
Mortal Kombat 2
Ridge Racer
Virtua Fighter
Day of the Tentacle

>>5441502
Next year is Supaaa MetROIDS

>>5441361
in what genres or games were present?

>>5441464
Or you had a PC and weren't a consolekid.

>>5441464
>zoomer
How many times are you gonna keep using that meaningless buzzword? Change up your shitposting anon, it became stale over a year ago.

>>5441534
MGS had a PC port retarded zoomer. The fact it wasn't released until 2 years later is inconsequential.

>>5441797
>inconsequential
You utter fucking idiot, the grandfather post you're replying to is literally
>"If you think "1998" and MGS1 isn't one of the first things"
You were so keen to call someone a zoomer you forgot the context, you low IQ faggot.

>>5439630

you may not like it but this is what peak performance looks like

>>5439756

this too

>>5443179
That's not even close to peak.

>>5440782

agreed

half life 1 was the last FPS i ever enjoyed

>>5443183

post 2004 everything went down hill lad

>>5443186
back to /v/ hlnigger see>>5441361

>>5443194

i only included 2004 because vanilla wow was the last good MMO to come out

>>5443192
I don't agree with that even a little.

>>5443207
>didnt refute the post

>>5441826
I'm not that guy but you must have mild autism.

>>5443226

half life 1 was fun and memorable

i enjoyed the story and scripts

this is coming from a doom and quake die hard

it was the beginning of the end for FPS

>>5439630
I have always thought this. we got Tomb Raider that year as well.

>>5439691

Here's how many are actually decent in that list.

>>5439630
Why even try to compete?

1993:
Mortal Kombat II
Samurai Shodown
Daytona USA
Ridge Racer
Virtua Fighter
NBA Jam
Star Fox
Kirby's Adventure
Day of the Tentacle
Legend of Zelda Link's Awakening
Super Mario All-Stars
Secret of Mana
Sonic CD
Myst
Sam & Max Hit the Road
Mega Man 6
Disney's Aladdin
Sonic Spinball
Doom
Mega Man X
Madden 93
NHL 93
The 7th Guest
ActRaiser 2
Alone in the Dark 2
Castlevania Chronicles
Castlevania Rondo of Blood
Ducktales II
FIFA
Final Fight 2
Golden Axe III
Gunstar Heroes
Lemmings 2
Mutant League Football
Phantasy Star IV
R-Type III
Shining Force II
Shinobi III
SimCity 2000
Super Street FIghter II
Super Bomberman
Super Turrican
Syndicate
Ys IV: Mask of the Sun
Ys IV: The Dawn of Ys
Yoshi's Safari
Zombies Ate My Neighbors

>>5444665
Bretty guud list

>>5440212
Also this

>>5439756
>Sonic R
I mean I unironically like the game but one of the best of 1998? It came out in '97 btw. Also where the fuck is King of Fighters '98?

>>5444626
>the soi selection

1998 for me. Grim Fandango, Ocarina of Time, and Half-Life are my top 3 favorite games ever.

>>5445051
So like two games?
Just blow that year up, it's gone, boom booma boom.

>>5444665
nice list, just forgot Lords of Thunder, and Bomberman 94

I dont have a favorite year in gaming but my gaming tastes seem to permanently be stuck in like 2010, the newest thing I play semi regularly and the exception to this rule is Black Ops 2 zombies, is this normal?

>>5446342
It means that you've joined the horde and it can go a multitude of various ways..

>>5446374
such as?

>>5446380
Yes.

>>5446395
thank you, I understand now

>>5439756
>sonic r

Jon made a mocking video about it and was right about everything.

>>5439630
Whatever year Super Mario World came out is best year ever.