/vr/ - Retro Games

Wow, I thought that it was a bait thread but it's actually true.

>>5418437
Holy shit.
Now all I want in my life is Warcraft 1&2 on GoG and I'm game.

>>5418437
but why?

>diablo 1 with modern resolutions
>won't get banned from bnet this time
fuck yes, do D2 next

>>5418437
>blizzard actually releasing games on GoG
Didn't expect to ever see that.

Minimum system requirements:
System:
Windows 7 / 8.1 / 10
Processor:
1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster
Memory:
2 GB RAM
Graphics:
DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver
DirectX:
DirectX 9
Storage:
1 GB available hard disk space

Really Nigga? For Diablo 1? This sounds like they just pulled whatever out of their ass, this game should run on literally anything made during this century. Or did they fuck up that badly when they added higher resolutions?

>>5418508
duhm?
>For those wanting something a bit more modern, Blizzard and GOG.COM have collaborated on an updated version of the game tuned for today’s gaming PCs, which includes out-of-the-box Windows 10 compatibility, a host of bug fixes and high-resolution support.

of course original d1 didn't require dx9 n sheet.

>>5418508
Is this your first time with a GOG release anon?

>>5418437
Fucking awesome. I was replaying this a few months ago, thinking it would be nice to have a digital copy just in case my CD doesn't work anymore.

I want to know if they're using the usual wrappers or if they've developed something new

>>5418552
It's basically running in a wrapper.
The "Win10 HD version" is just upscaling, it doesn't actually give you higher resolution or framerate like Beelzebub.
It's still internally running at 640x480 20 FPS.

>>5418470
https://www.gry-online.pl/S013-amp.asp?ID=113840
Apparently Warcraft 1 and 2 will follow.

>>5418437
>Storm Diablo's halls as either a Warrior, a Sorcerer or a Rogue - each with unique skills and abilities.
No Monk from Hellfire expansion?

>>5418581
>hellfire
>blizzard
hmmmnmnhmnhmnhmnmmnmmnhmnhmnh

>>5418437
>looked at the screenshots
>characters actually have their canon names
Nice.

as always
D1>D2

>>5418579
Fuck yeah.
Although it is not suprising. CDProjekt (GOG parent company) was the main distributor of the majority of Blizzard games in Central/Eastern Europe.
I wonder what sort of versions will that be - I think W2 Battle.net edition is a no-brainer.
And if they manage to throw in a mousefix for W1 - so that you can move units with right-click, I'm in.

The game keeps crashing on start, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing wrong.

>>5418579
Also better sauce https://eu.diablo3.com/en/blog/22887361
See the last Q&A

>>5418508
Let me guess, something something Unity?

sweet

>>5418437
>>5418503
>>blizzard actually releasing games on GoG
>Didn't expect to ever see that.
This. Huh, pigs do fly sometimes.
>Blizzard working on multiple Diablo projects
So, this was one of them besides Diablo Immortal.

I am so baffled by this, but that is pretty cool.

i couldve sworn this game is freeware but thats cool. it feels weird though that a blizzard game is on a different client, not sure how to feel about this

>>5418437
Awesome. Diablo 1 likes to be a coinflip as to whether it starts properly or not so hearing it was updated for Windows 10 interests me

https://us.battle.net/account/download/
In case you guys didn't know, you can download Diablo II from Blizzard self.

>>5418894
It works quite well.
If they've managed to put this much effort into restoring that game, I wonder how Warcraft 1 and 2 would look like.
Maybe GoG will introduce the mousefix for Warcraft 1 by default.

10 bucks ? Fuck off !

Whaaaaa

Nigga I've been playing D1 with HD textures and improved loot system and UI for years I'm not paying for what has been available for free for so long.

>>5418896
for free?

>>5418437
fuck me sideways it's real

>>5419053
>improved loot system
> I've been playing D1
No you haven't.

>not Hellfire

Why bother

>>5418905
What are the chances it'll go on sale at some point? 10 is a bit much for me too, but I'd pay like 5.

>>5419093
It's non-canon, and not a Blizzard game. It was made by outsiders against Blizzard's will.
Blizzard will not republish it, ever.

>>5418437
Nice shill thread, you've got my money. Just please fix your fucking site the Games button still goes to the homepage sometimes

>>5419125
And also an improvement, that's a fact.

>>5419075
i didn't know poppo likes diablo

havent played diablo before
except that time some guy at work took me through diablo 3 destroying shit and making me pick up all the loot
is this worth it or shall I grab it from elsewhere?
cant gauge the irony in this thread

>>5419103
wait 2-3 months

>>5419103
I suspect it might go on sale once Warcraft 1 and 2 are released. GOG likes to throw discounts on bundles.

>>5418437
ok

can someone tell me why this is a big deal? its not like you couldn't play it before this happened

>>5419064
You need a cd key to activate.

>>5418486
>with modern resolutions
Not true, resolutions are the same

So, where's the community link for the DRM free download, huh?

>Blizzard trying this hard to redeem themselves
>Blizzard this desperate for more revenue

Good. They should be desperate more often.

>>5419223
yeah but the old game required some setups before playing on modern systems, which some people don't want/are not willing to go through.

>>5419262
Also, for the last couple of years it was impossible to actually BUY the damn thing anywhere. So unless you pirate the retail version from 1996 and pray to machine god that it'll work properly on a modern rig, you were shit out of luck. The same thing with Warcraft 1/2

>Windows-only
Fuck you, GOG.

>>5419437
>Fuck you, GOG.
go back to /g/, and ask them to force feed you the instructions on how to make it work with wine.

>>5419437
>>5419463
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_judas_does_this_run_in_wine_thread_v1173/post1776

>>5419437
windows is the standard for PC gaming faggot, get with the program.

>>5419262
sounds like they just didn't deserve to play it. only a retarded zoomer would let this be an obstacle. i fucking played this 10 years ago as-is.

>>5419152
poppo is more evil

I have a portable version of Diablo with the Hellfire expansion fully cracked that I downloaded a couple years back.

Have to shut down explorer while I play or the colors get wonky, but other than that it works fine.

Launches easy in Windows 7. No extra set up. I like that GoG is trying to keep the flame alive, but I'm not paying again for a game I've already paid full price for years ago.
The flame clearly stays lit in other ways, if you aren't tarded.

>>5419479
you're looking it from the point of view of a l33t g4m3r, wtf... it's a good decision to put this on GOG

>>5419479
it's easy as fuck to set up on a modern machine but it's still nice to see them actually adding these fixes rather than do what steam does for so many old games and just sell it to you completely unpatched or bundled with dosbox
getting gothic 1 steam release to be playable was a pain in the ass, i don't know why they wouldn't at the bare minimum include community fixes in the download as an option

Why would I buy GOG Diablo when I can just play it on Bnet??

>>5418437
Not counting me hating mindless games that you do the same things over and over with only textures chagning, whats the big deal? Im not shilling, just curious. Did they add anything?

>>5418437
will they ever release a Diablo II enhanced like they did with Starcraft ?? they should

>>5419706
Impossible. D2 is basically a bunch of sprites running on a bunch of spreadsheets

>>5419678
Blizzard rarely allows their games to be on platforms other than their own, also they apparently added some minor fixes like 16:9 and upscaling to modern resolutions
not really thread-worthy imo but still neat

>>5419743
Thanks, it just seemed wierd to me to make it that much of a big deal

I feel like a retard.

How do I make these icky black bars go away on the new version?

>>5419859
nvm I am a retard.

>>5419706
Probably not. At least you won't have a large field of view due to enemies triggering once you see them unless you want to see a bunch of mobs just standing around while you can see them off in the distance.

>>5418437
Any word on Diablo 2?

wtf

Didn't blizzard have this for free at their official website

>>5419917
You're thinking about Starcraft Brood War.

>>5419929
No, I distinctly remember Blizzard offering Diablo 1 for free on their website. It's where I got the iso.

>>5418748
They could have announced this instead of Diablo Immortal

>>5419476
A huge number of GOG games are PC/Mac/Linux because they're DOSBox to begin with or WINE ports, it's easy for them to do and a bummer when they don't.

>>5418486
Windows 10 compat.

>>5419146
you should be playing Throne of Darkness

>>5418581
They never liked that expansion and they don't regard it as canon.

>>5419910
I wouldn't count on Diablo 2 and Warcraft 3 coming to GOG anytime soon. If we are extremaly lucky, we'll get a non-remastered Starcraft. Which can be downloaded for free anyway, so it's pointless.
D2/W3 community is still active, Blizzard still sells and supports those games on their Bnet shop and they are very protective of them. Diablo 1, Warcraft 1 and 2 are basically abandonware for them, so they can give away the rights to distribute them to an outside company without much issue.

>>5418437
Does this release support windowed mode?

>>5420376
Yes.

>>5420363
Hellfire was done by Sierra not Blizzard. So there was also a bit of legal problem of who owns what and to what extent.
So Blizzard at this point just ignores Hellfire.

>A Blizzard game on GOG
Don't know how to compute this.

Now this is good news

>>5420564
Considering Belzebub is its own .exe and uses the diabdat.mpq for the resources, that makes sense.

For people who play Belzebub and use the Diablo CD, I recommend copying the diabdat.mpq from the CD and putting it in the Belzebub folder, that way you don't have to read it from the CD, and won't get interrupted by occasional load times, as the program can just access the resources directly.

It's literally available in abandonware though. Like you're paying for something that's legally available for free.

>>5420832
True, but this comes packaged with Windows 10 compatibility and resolution options. At any rate, GOG doesn't do DRM so you can just go steal this package as soon as someone shares it.

I'm fine with GOG when they offer me something that's worthwhile. Like, trying to install and run a game like Simcity 3000 on Windows 7 or Windows 10. The stuff on the disc barely starts up half the time, and when it does run, it crashes at the drop of a hat. I looked around for a while but couldn't find any patch or solution that worked, and compatibility mode did nothing.
The GOG release installs the game and runs smoothly, without crashes, and it also has the expansion available as an option.
So in *this specific instance*, GOG was a good option for me, I don't mind paying a few dollars for a convenient solution.

But looking at some games such as say, Doom, where it's easy to just pirate the wads, or you outright bought it back in the day, there's a dozen different sourceports (allowing anything from original and unmodified gameplay, to whatever crazy mod you could imagine) available for free, there's precious little reason to buy GOG's release of that game.

>>5420857
I guess but it's not like Diablo is actually one of the hard ones to make work.

>>5420832
https://archive.org/details/Diablo_1996_Blizzard

>>5420869
Honestly, it seems to differ for people, some fixes work for some people on some systems, but then not others.

>>5420875
Yeah I guess that's often the case, good point.

>>5420898
Last time I've get to run D1, after playing it for about an hour, the game crashes for me.

And guys. Face the facts here, Vanilla Diablo doesn't support TCP/IP and the battle.net server for D1 is trash.

GOG provides a solution for this, which is something I welcome.

But...it's boring.

>>5421260
Then don't play it, you ADHD ridden faggot.

The only thing that kills me is the lack of the ability to run.

am I missing something or can this be found for free somewhere?

>>5421318
It can, but this package is set up and ready for modern system compat, and offers options for resolutions and windowed mode.

>>5421318
Rutracker.

>>5421332
I dont mean illegally
Ive never played it before so I may as well buy it

>>5421348
I think at this point GOG version is the only way to acquire Diablo 1 "legally" - unless you wish to browse through some second-hand stores.

>>5420363
except monk appears in D3

>>5421362
So? It's a different monk. It even plays differently.
They just probably took the vague idea from Hellfire. Or million other games with monks in them.

>>5421362
A different monk with different mechanics.
Also who gives a fuck about D3?

is this really "blizzard doing something" or is it more "blizzard commissions gog to work on something they know they're not going to touch in a hundred years"

>>5421491
The latter, obviously, but even if I haven't liked Blizzard in years, it's nice that an old classic game is available in a readily playable package like this, because it means people will play it.

>>5418437
>high resolution support
It's just a bundled ddraw wrapper that will integer scale the game to your desktop resolution (aspect-ratio correct), which has been available in the community for years. if anyone wanted to play diablo and spent 5 minutes googling, they would have found it and played it.

Nice that you can finally get it legally though, however the original CD images (including the Hellfire expansion pack which is NOT available on GOG) have been part of the IBM PC Compatible redump database for years. You can just get it from archive.org.

>>5419938
Why would Blizzard release the ISO? They usually just do installers, I think you're remembering wrong friend-o

>>5421514
so its 1280x960?

>>5421595
At 1080p? Yeah, 1280x960 letter boxed.

>>5421601
wasn't there some steam application that pixel doubled windowed applications?

>>5421682
You must be thinking of this one. You can get it straight from GitHub:

https://github.com/Codeusa/Borderless-Gaming/releases

GOG's wrapper basically does the same thing.

>>5421697
https://store.steampowered.com/app/993090/Lossless_Scaling/?beta=0

remember using the glide wrapper for d2 and making the game look good as hell

>>5421260
this, it's essentially just cookie clicker with skeletons

>>5419223
>legal avenue and distribution
>visible to people who may not have played it or heard of it before
>compatibility ready, can just download it and play it on the spot, don't have to fidget about with various solutions which may or may not work
It's not like a godsend or anything, but considering how fucking shit D3 is, it's nice that the original will be more widely available for newer generations.

I already have Diablo on cd and run it with the belzebub mod. Is there any point purchasing this from gog?

>>5422161
no

>>5422161
If you want to play straight vanilla Diablo I guess.

>>5418712
Turn off DEP

>>5418717
My body is ready.

>>5420832
It's literally not abandonware anymore if you can legitimately buy it again.

does this work on my cell phone? i don't have a pc because I'm not 50

>>5422901

>>5422901
Cell phone posting zoommer alert

Fuck GoG for selling what should be free.
Fuck retailers.
Fuck developers.
If you want your work to be recognised as art, treat it as such and don't exploit it.

>>5423023
>Fuck this company for not providing a service to me for free
Self entitled cunt.

>>5420564
did they ever finish the multiplayer version? Last i played the quests in it didn't give any of the stuff they were supposed to.

>>5419990
>huge number
thats pretty wrong, of my 94 games only 22 support linux natively (and again as you say, most are dosbox). this number has not even increased for two years for me so building the linux library is not even a priority (even most dosbox games haven't been "ported" which doesn't honestly effect me but its a pet peeve). then some of the native ports don't even fucking run without configuration anyways, like psychonauts. lastly they dont do wine ports, they have no official support at all for wine or derivatives, you can argue that every game you have tried runs fine in wine but they aren't wine ports. i find the distinction important because one makes it sound like gog is actually trying to focus on linux support while the other is more accurate

>>5423025
what gog is doing is a literal subpar version of what fan made mods already do with better quality.

>>5423023
Entitled faggot

>>5423025
>>5423260
Enabling payscum

>>5423407
>>5423023
>i shouldn't have to pay for other people's labor
Hang yourself, commie.

>>5418519
I pirate their installers all the time, old games usually have the proper system requirements listed, and if it sounds like BS, I just ignore it and download anyway and assume it'll run on my ancient hardware and it generally does.

Hell, half the time you can run stuff with less than what they say because I doubt they're really testing games on 10+ year old hardware just to see if it works.

>>5420832
myabandonware takes shit away once it shows up on steam or gog...you used to be able to just get Doom and Doom 2 on there until they put it up for sale. The pages for these games still exist, but they have $ on their thumbnail so you know not to waste your time. Like rom sites with ESA protected shit.

>>5418508
With GOG releases it's usually either that A) they just pulled some numbers out their asses, or B) the game runs on emulation of sort or another and is more demanding than the original. In this case, I bet it's the former.

>>5418904
likely. gog releases tend to have serious bug fixes included in their versions. vampire, star wars kotor 2 etc.

>>5423025
>paying for video games

>>5422308
This, it helped me with D2 random crashes (fingers still crossed)

>>5423254
Except that is not true. What GOG does is make games run natively on modern systems. They also give you the opportunity to buy a game that would otherwise be impossible. After that, do whatever the fuck you want with your purchase.

If you do not like it, go tweak away at the game yourself, but most people don't feel like wasting time on that kind of bullshit for every old game they want to play.

>>5424103
>What GOG does is make games run natively on modern systems
they apply fan patches and make you pay for it which is fine. If they were smart they would collaborate with Valve and fund more wine development and other open source compatibility projects that would allow them to port more win9x games.

>>5418905
I see $13.39 in Canuck rubles.

>>5424103
wrong. They literally use fan made and unofficial patches with compatibility mode turned on. Abandonwares are all free and easy to find. Diablo is in archive.org ffs

>>5421701
Is there a free option? Or even a pirated version of this?

>>5420870
>a decades old game could be just pirated
woooaaaahh

>>5425413
This is official release with Blizzard's blessings. It's not like GOG decided to sell it on their own, also since it's now available for purchase (with support through GOG and Blizzard.com) then it's no longer abandonware. You should try looking up the definition of the word.

>>5424112
I highly doubt that's the only thing they do, since I can run their installer straight out the box without issue, while the disc version of, for example, Simcity 3K doesn't work at all.
That goes farther than just slapping a patch on it and calling it a day.

Man, The Smith is an asshole in this Belzebub mod.

>>5418905
>>5424942
it was 8,89 eurodollarydoos for me

>>5426448
Smith? Do you mean Butcher? He was an asshole in Vanilla too.

>>5426517
Nah, I've dealt with the Butcher already. That encounter is actually different in this mod. Nope, I'm talking about the Smith. It uses the same model as the Butcher but it's extra strong and hasted. They said this mod would be tougher and I didn't believe it at first because it was smooth sailing up until this prick.

im using these fine clothes and this negro still looks like fucking kazam, there is no fashion in this game or what?

>>5426531
It's somewhat tougher, yeah.
If you're a warrior, expect Izual to fucking rape you. Cold magic is an absolute bitch in this game, the dude is like Duriel on Nightmare.

>>5426556
There's three types of armor; light, medium, and heavy.
Light armor (such as what you have there), looks like the base appearance/unarmored, while medium armor is mails and stuff, which generally looks more spiffy, and heavy armor, which is bulky and cool.

Sorcerer looks pretty cool in mail, you're down in the Catacombs so you should be able to find some very soon. Mind that's a unique item you have on there, which can have some pretty good properties.
Are you playing vanilla or a mod?

>>5426556
You'll need to build your strength stat a little if you want to wear heavier armor, mind. Or use items which boost your strength.

Sorcerer caps at 50 strength (but he can have so much more magic than the other classes instead). Put some points in that every now and then.

>>5426617
vanilla, and i still using this unique wrap since the cathedral

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ZLsOjj6nXlTiL8cq_aN1HnYyqKEDQxlK

>>5420409
maybe they are just testing the waters on other services

what quality of life changes they implemented in diablo gog anyway?

>>5426965

>>5426965
Not a lot. Resolution options and windowed mode, otherwise it's the vanilla game, running on a modern OS.

>>5426976
>>5427053
i was hoping something like alt button for items on the ground and f-keys for skills.

>>5418717
>We have announced that we’re partnering with GOG.COM to release Warcraft: Orcs and Humans and Warcraft II
YES!

>>5419103
>>5419173
we are assuming the lord god Activision Blizzard would agree to that, GoG's deal sometimes are at the mercy of the publishers. Hell it's likely why the asking price is 9.99 rather than their usual 5.99 for such an old title

>>5419261
This might have been in the works beforehand. GoG brought up they were in talks with them last year and the Bethesda deal to get Fallout back on GoG took over a year.
Also if this was shameless marketing they just put it on their storefront and not a 3rd party's.

>>5427978
>Warcraft: Orcs and Humans
What are the chances that GOG would implement the mousefix mod into the game, so you can select multiple units via drag-and-drop and give orders via right mouse click like a normal human being and not through command shortcuts like some autistic monkey?

>>5427989
but it already has drag and drop selection, just with ctrl key

>using gog

bet you also run win10

>>5418437
The only good Diablo game.

>>5418717
>these comments in the post
Peak retardation

>>5427989
since they lend gog the SRC
>Warcraft Orcs and Humans W95 finally being used, which means Digital Audio along WIth MIDI Roland as option
>War2 using the recent fanpatches using the Battlenet edition, Dos option comes as bonus like Wing Commander IV

If anyone's interested, you can actually get Hellfire to work with GoG Diablo, and thus get the higher resolution and ability to play without crashing on newer systems.

1. Create Hellfire folder on your GoG Diablo folder
2. Copy these files to your Hellfire folder from Hellfire cd or iso:
>hellfire.exe
>hellfire.mpq
>HELLFRUI.DLL
>hfmonk.mpq
>hfmusic.mpq
>hfvoice.mpq
>storm.dll
3. Download Hellfire Enchanced Mod, and copy all contents to your Hellfire folder. Replace everything that you are asked to.
4. Set your resolution and graphics settings to what you want with GoG Diablo settings.
5. Copy the ddraw.dll, dxcfg.exe and dxcfg.ini files from Diablo\dx into your Hellfire folder
6. Start playing Hellfire without crashes from hellfire.exe

>>5427980
the price is higher because there was actual porting involved

instead of slapping in dosbox and calling it a day or developers were wizards and Win95 executable compiled 20 years ago still somehow works on Win10 and can be sold as is (example: MDK)

>>5428736
>Playing the Dos version of wc1 when Mac is actually superior.

>>5418470
That and Diablo 2 for me.

>>5429920
Why? You can play Diablo 2 perfectly fine on modern systems and buy it digitally from Blizzard.

Can the GOG version do borderless window?

>>5426830

>>5429473
Warcraft 1 & 2 really deserve their own thread.

>>5418734
No you retard, do you know how much extra time and effort it would take to port all that shit over to unity?

Thread warning: Do NOT buy Diablo, or anything else, from GOG.
They are charging you for what should rightly be abandonware. Many of 'thier' products have been Abandonware for years until some fatcats decided they wanted a lick of sugar and sold legally free games back to you.
Retail is theft. Do no support retailers. They did nothing to make or appreciate the games they sell. They are non-essential scum.
Don't trust developers who want fame or money. Do not support the circlejerk that is the GDC. Do not give credit to 'designers' who clamour for recognition. Do not support 'rights holders' who try to squeeze you for money.

I have been playing Warcraft 1 on an abandonware copy for years and have never, and will never, pay Blizzard or any retailer a dime for it. And I guarantee that I love the game more than any developer who made it. Are any of them still playing it 25 years after I got my first pirate copy? No.
Same for diablo.
Same for Starcraft.
I have never paid scum like David Crane or Jeff Minter or that vain fuck Warren Robinett for thier 'work' but I have played and loved their games. If they had any passion for what they do they would upload their games and source code for free. That goes for all devs.
Fuck GOG.

>>5430260
Retail is theft? What?

You love it more than any developer? Geez man...

If someone loves something they should do it for free? You realise how crazy that sounds?

Tell me this, do you have a job?

>>5421362
>except monk appears in D3
Get this degenerate shit out of here

>>5426556
>Using the worst class
You deserve it.

>>5430263
>If someone loves something they should do it for free
I think the real question is, if you love something more than the person who made it why on earth would you pay THEM for it? Just pirate it. It's your right.

looks like it's time to dust off my old saves.

Still have a wiz with perfect naj, 20 dur tc, df, and bsoa.
Also a war with rc, ksoh, and some other bling.

Or I might start a fresh char, just for the hell of it.