/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5416873
2 was strange and it felt like it was trying to be a shooter while still trying to build off the success of RE1 and maintain the survival thing, but it failed miserably in that regard.

>>5416873
>claims to have played every other classic style RE game
>somehow never played RE2 until 2019

Hmm.

What's with all these OTS shooty-tooty RE2 demake shills on /vr/? Not only does your garbage ruin the gameplay entirely in favor of PEW PEW PEW OTS FLASHLIGHT SIMULATION, it also completely omits the impact the decisions made in the different scenarios have on each other. Stop shilling this complete turd.

>>5416994
>shooty-tooty
>more shooting in the original

>>5416930
Good job on catching up the Bait, I was going to wail the shit out this zoomer asshole

>>5417009
>I was going to wail the shit out this
Hahahahahahahaha, okay kid. This is like the fat kid who gets picked on at school talking shit on the internet after a long day.

>>5417009
Not everyone who enjoys the remake of 2 is a zoomer man. It is a great game in its own right, and I say this as someone on the autism spectrum who has been arguing about how awful OTS RE is since 4 was released.

At this point in time you have three options:
a) play re2 remake for what it is and enjoy it because it is objectively an amazing game
b) sperg out online about how they cut stuff out (while completely ignoring what they have added), sperg about it being an "action game" despite being more of a survival horror than the original, sperg about Claire and Leon's model not exact replicas of playstation 1 graphics, sperg about it being a "demake" despite being an upgrade in almost every way, sperg about "flashlight simulators", sperg hard and cry while being miserable and living in the past
3) kill yourself
The choice is yours bud.

>>5417156
>and I say this as someone on the autism spectrum who has been arguing about how awful OTS RE is since 4 was released.
At what point did you give in? I remember buying RE4 on PS2 on release and not beating it until a couple of years later because I hated how it was just straight up action. I'll admit that I had a blast with RE5 because I co-op'd it with a buddy on release night all the way through. RE6 was the final straw, though. What a shitfest of ideas.

>>5417156
I do enjoy and like the remake a lot.

But shitting on the classic re2 is stupid.

>>5417156
Yeah, but having actual discussion requires actual input and intellect and that just ain't the export of 4chan.

>>5417186
>At what point did you give in? I
I bought RER1 and RER2 during the steam summer sale last year and had fun playing them.They are awful RE games but overall still decent video games. I watched the news about the remake of 2 closely and have thought that it looked decent for a while now. I'm immune to horror now, but there are times when I can't help but think "wow this is actually kind of scary". For example, the east wing introduction at the start or the fucking run down the long west hall when zombies are pouring in through the windows. This part of the game is especially fucked when you return to get the jack handle. The female zombies audio effect is actually horrifying. Capcom has somehow improved on zombies and I didnt think that it was possible after REmake.

I guess I just looked at it and decided that it actually looks like a decent survival horror game despite the camera. I took the redpill and I don't regret it. 3 is my favorite and I am beyond excited for a remake of that.

>>5416930
Seriously...

>>5416994
>flashlight simulator
Meaningless buzzword using faggot.

>>5417009
Anon, this bait is so obvious you could see it from space.

>>5417591
It's not a buzzword it's the truth

>>5416873
Fuck off retard

>>5416873
Yeah, it's basically just an action game with a shitty camera. The first RE is way better.

>>5417591
wooooooooooooooow

>>5418854
>he thinks that all the lights are going to be on mid zombie outbreak
Wew lad

>>5419021
Why the fuck would they be out in the first place?

>>5416930
Good catch. Fuck this shitposting zoomed retard.

>>5416873
Hey, it's up to us to take out umbrella.

If there was ever a case for nostalgia goggles it’s this game. Boomers remember the massive hype over its release but the actual game is inferior to the original. The fact that it is held in such high regard is something I’ll never understand.

>>5416873
>The original Resident Evil 2 is honestly probably the most disappointing game I have ever played. I bought the remake of 2 and have played the fuck out of it

100% of people who played the original first find the remake disappointing.

100% of people who played the remake find the original disappointing.

>>5420208
>Hides in the corner as just about the only person who enjoys both versions for what they are.

>>5420226
That’s most people. Dorks that post on /vr/ make up a pretty small sample size.

Everyone on this board is just a mad contrarian faggot now.

>>5420290
Saying that makes you look like a pretentious faggot.

>>5420226
Pretty much the overwhelmingly majority of people I talked to outside of /vr/ or /v/ who played the original first when it came out, including me, like both.

>>5420208
/v/ is good evidence for this, the shitty remake is beloved over there

>>5420307
>shitty remake
>4 million copies sold in less than a week
>96% Overwhelmingly Positive Reviews
>finally going back to their survival horror roots after giving us several crappy action RE games for years
Also, /v/ is shitting all over the remake. I'm not sure where you're getting this beloved crap from, because everyone knows /v/ doesn't even like video games 1000% of the time.
>b-but /v/ is not one person
Shut the fuck up it sure feels like it.

>>5420304
I agree, but this is 4chan/nel and youre a faggot and an autist just for being here. Rember youre here forever, also /vr/ can have extremely productive threads on occasion. A while back there was a joust thread that was really good and every so often obscure ps1 threads can yield some nice games you would otherwise never known about. Lately (since the schism), it seems to be degrading at a faster rate than it was before 4 channel. Its actually hurts a little and i dont come here as often as i used to. Im not saying it was great before, but definitely a lit better.

>>5420326
/vr/ can be pretty good sometimes but for years now I've noticed anons becoming much more obnoxious about other people's taste in games and how someone plays their favorite retro game that it feels like I'm in /v/ again most of the time.

>>5420295
How? Explain.

How is it pretentious to say that I like something popular? How is it pretentious to see value in popular things, though I don't like them?
You're obviously a colossal fucking faggot.

I love and enjoy both the original and the remake. They're both excellent games.

>>5420208
Well I played the original first back in 1999 or so, then again a couple years ago. Didn't care much for it back then and hated it when I replayed it.

The story is so fucking meh, the underground lab and the whole g-virus birkin shit is way too grand to be believable and you litterally get showered in ammo and heals the whole game. I didn't die ONCE on the replay of either scenario.
And "Mr.X" is a fucking joke. Most boring enemy in the game, I really can't believe they thought he was a good idea after how awsome the original tyrant was.

I actually had high hopes for the remake fo fix atleast the "difficulty", and I was pleasently supprised. The hard mode is pretty good, graphics is fantastic and they managed too keep most of it feeling like 1998 and more or less true to the original RE2.

I still don't care much for the game as a whole, and Mr. generic is still lame.

Hunk mode is pretty awsome tho.

My favorite of the series is definitely RE3 Nemesis, followed by RE1.

Didn't like the retcon in REmake or any of the changes and "additional content", but was nice to play with better graphics.

After RE2 remake, I'm looking foreward to the Nemesis remake, I really hope they put some effort in it and don't fuck up 'ole Nemmie, or put fucking Wesker in there.

I'm honestly so fucking amazed they didn't put him in RE2 remake.

>>5416873
What do you hope to achieve with threads like this?

>old game is popular, but I think it is bad. i will make a thread and change everyones minds about the game!!

>>5420360
You made a sweeping generalization to support your stance, that's being pretentious.

>>5420370
I agree.

>>5420836
Trolling

Re2>Re1
Now fuck off.

>>5421227
In what world? Certainly not the real world.

>>5421248
seething

FUCK /v/ AND FUCK ZOOMERS

>>5421261
>make retard post
>told to fuck off
>seething
every time

>>5421248
RE1 is on par with RE Code Valium

It is an important game for the genre, don't get me wrong, but RE2 is superior.

RE1 does have better puzzles overall.

And I'm talking about the Classics just to be clear.

>>5421269
>its retarded because i dont agree with it

>>5420208
That's a sign of a shitty remake

>>5421270
RE1 has a better setting and atmosphere too. The isolated spooky mansion filled with traps and puzzles is just way more memorable. I’ve played through the various versions of RE1 so many times that I have recurring dreams about wandering the mansion.

>>5420208
False. They are both wonderful in their own way.
t. Been playing the original since 99

>>5421248
the original resident evil 1 not the remake on the game cube and later pc released was just resident evil 2 minus b alternate story line which included a different boss that you would fight and a lack with birkin and fewer endings

the original as well as the remake of the first game lets you not save people. so you save every one you can only 3 leave the mansion and clearly it was jills game. rebecca is supposed to die in the mansion but thats not much of a gameplay mechanic. it was nice but the different endings all seemed about the same. you leave in a helicopter. the remake just added in a couple more where tyrant survived the rocket launcher and is seen after you leave

>>5421585
You can finish the original RE1 without fighting the tyrant on the helicopter pad or blowing up the mansion. That’s not just in the remake.

>>5421509
Yeah, there's an allure to the mansion. What else?

The Police Station on RE2 was about as charming, if not more, the music was better.
And the lab in RE2 is the best Umbrella Scenario of the series.

None of the later portions of the series can compete with RE2's last level.

>>5420319
>>4 million copies shipped to stores in less than a week
ftfy you stupid fuckhead

>>5419218
Well, it was like that in The last of Us and modern capcom desperately wants to copy shitty naughty dog games to get "respect" in the west.

>>5420208
This is how I feel too. Although I have been enjoying more now that I have an unlimited knife and handgun.

>>5421656
In defense of Naughty Dog, TLoU takes place years after society collapses so of course there wasn’t power.

stop making these threads. they attract /v/ shitposters.

counterpoint
RE2 is actually pretty good

>>5421268
I'm 30 and having been playing RE since 1999.

>>5420852
What stance am I supporting, you giant faggot? That was the first post I made in the God damn thread, you retard.

>The game was literally bukkakeing me with ammo and herbs
>he played on Easy, complains it's easy
Try playing on Normal and getting the key from Brad's zombified corpse.

Recently went back and played the classic RE games. I still have trouble enjoying or getting into 1, it just doesn't have the "vs swarm of zombies" feel the later games did. CV is worse than I remember, 3 is more awesome than I remember, and currently playing 2 again.

>>5422831
>>he played on Easy, complains it's easy
I have not played a RE game on easily since probably 2004

>>5421227
>>5421227
both versions of re1 are better

>>5422831
Based

3 is great, it's really fun, specially Mercenaries.

But overall main campaign, RE2 is King of the series to me.

>>5422831
3 is really good on hard where you have less weapons and heals, have to conserve ammo alot. And Nemesis drops weapon parts and other supplies when you beat him.
Depending on where you choose to go first, and the choises you make in the boss fights the story changes between 4 scenarios and you can run into Nemesis on different locations throughout the game.
Very good replay value.

CV had pretty awsome gameplay, just too bad the story is sooooo fucking shit. Like star wars prequel level shit.

>>5416873
Fucking zoomers...

I love the original RE2 but I am willing to admit that yes, it hasn't aged very well. But you have to kind of put yourself in the 1998 mindset and compare it to what was around it at the time. It was, for it's time, a masterpiece.

I've yet to play the remake, but I'll get around to it soon. I heard pretty much everyone loves it.

>>5423868
>games aging

Games don't age.

>>5424036
Are you saying that time does not pass and that it is still 1998?

>>5424062
does music age. do movies age. if it was shit from the start people would know.

>>5424097
Things can become shit in comparison to better things happening after. That's what it means.

>>5424106
i mean, no. how does something released later affect anything's quality in the past. you look at any new invention and compare it to its predecessor, if the former was shit people would know from the start.

>>5424106
no you fucking asshat.

We the people change, not the creations.

There isn't a degradation in the quality of music, videogames or movies of the past.

This fucking concept of "AGING" is some abstract postmodern faggotry of newfags who can't appreciate things because of their desensitized brains.

>>5424062
Yes and you can't theoretically prove me wrong.

>>5424128
"aging" has been a term used in any field when advancements are made that make the previous versions "obsolete". I'm assuming you're an angsty teenager of some sorts.

>>5424128
It's both actually. Have a good day, Anonymous.

>>5424128
Although I agree somewhat I also think that you're overshooting the concept of a game not aging well.

It's tougher for people to go back and to play them because they've personally found a better title to go to in more recent times.

In the same capacity that one might not go back to atari games, one day me and you might not go back to super nintendo.

Stale bait. RE2 remake is old news, zoomer fag.

>>5416873
Wow, I knew OP was a faggot... but wow.

>>5420319
>implying popularity equals quality
CoD is consistently top selling game series that often gets overwhelmingly positive reviews, those must get really good games too huh?

>>5422831
>Try playing on Normal and getting the key from Brad's zombified corpse.
Wow look at this hardcore professional not pick up 3 handgun ammo cases in the first 5 screens of the game. Truly a task for the gaming God's.
Really really sick of you larping faggots pretending these games don't shower you in herbs and ammo, I just beat Leon B with 22 unused ink ribbons, over 50 magmun bullets and every first aid spray left because I only used herbs for the rating boost. RE2 and the entire series is easy as piss and the only people who don't admit it are retards who haven't played it since they were children, JRPG fags who consider moving in live action a monumental test of skill, or larping zoomers who buy into MUH RESOUCE MANAGEMENT AND REAL SURVIVAL HORROR. Go fuck yourself.

>>5416873
your opinion means nothing to everyone.

>>5424616
Yet here you are. Too much of a NEET to be able to afford the game, let alone the PC required to run it. Keep living in the past kid.

>>5416873
I think that they are both masterpieces desu

>>5416873
Lol

@5424573
>shumpnigger hates re.
Why am i not surprised?

>>5420208
>100% of people who played the original first find the remake disappointing.
Nope. 32 year old boomer that played the original at release. The remake shits all the fuck over it and then some. 4chan is just filled with absolute fucking dickheads.

>>5416873
After only reading your first sentence, I can bet 100 bucks you're a zoomer and you probably weren't even born when the original resident evil 2 came out. the remake is good, though. I liked it.

>>5416930
what, you think you can't beat the entire series within a few months? that's entirely doable, anon
they're really not long games

>>5427358
You're just another fucking millennial

>>5427765
Good retort bro.

34 year old boomer here who played the original at release. The remake is a nice modern take but the original has its merits. It might be harder to appreciate the original if the remake is your first exposure.

>>5416873
>>5416930
>>5417009
>>5417156
Telling me the Bowgun is missing from the remake is enough to keep me from playing it. Does she not even get a weapon at that point or is she just getting a shotgun like leon?
She's not supposed to get the same weapons that he has. Her segment is supposed to be harder.
> also the Bowgun is legit based on its description one of the fictional weapons I could see actually being useful IRL
> propellant launched arrows that skewer the bear 3 times, lots of meat penetration
> still has a crossbow on it in case you want to shoot crossbow bolts that arent propellant fired

The point I dont really agree with is the grenade launcher from the original game. They could've done away with that (did they?)
Easy replacement for the grenade launcher is a full barrel (upgraded) Shotgun.
>>5427358
>>5428710

>>5428937

Claire's weapons work more in extremes in contrast to Leon's weapons, which are generally less powerful but more versatile:

>Her starting handgun is wank as fuck, but it can be upgraded with a speed loader and into a magnum with parts you can find.

>Her grenade launcher loads slow as hell, but more powerful and handles crowds better.

>Her MAC-11 is somewhat atypical of her loadout I find, you can use it to stun and delimb zombies, or you can use it to straight up melt bosses.

>The Sparkshot is monstrous, only downside is relative ammo unavailability and waiting for the damage to apply when you stick an enemy.

>The Browning Hi-Power is straight up better gun than her starting revolver and Leon's VP-70.

I miss that she doesn't have her crossbow, I don't like it when a remake or remaster removes content rather than adds from the original, but I'm not sure what niche it could have fulfilled that wasn't already covered by another weapon. I would have preferred it stayed in since I found it really odd that one of her weapons is straight up just another handgun, it felt kind of redundant.

>>5420208
I didn't find the remake disappointing and I loved it, but the original is still my favourite RE game

>>5429126
I don't think her crossbow would be very helpful
it was kind of a shitty gun in re2 to begin with, and only good in CVX when it was a magical semi-auto crossbow that could use explosive bolts

>>5429126
You think that Claire is easier than Leon this time around? I thought that Claire was harder until I figured out that the smg was great for cutting off legs, then it clicked. Also did some googling to see which grenade rounds work best against which enemies.

>>5428937
The bowgun is shit m8

>>5429526

Would have been more distinct than just another handgun, I like that Claire's weapons are not just visually distinct, but functionally distinct from Leon's, I like the contrast of their loadouts.

It could have found a niche, headshots kill zombies instantly like the shotgun, it is silent enough to not trigger Lickers, and has a greater effective range than the shotgun, but of course, only a single bolt can be loaded at a time to offset this and the ammo is much rarer than shotgun cartridges.

>>5429527
>You think that Claire is easier than Leon this time around?

When dealing with tougher enemies, yes, groups of weaker ones could be a pain in the ass unless you got them bunched together since her most used weapons generally have a lower capacity and are slower to reload.

So get this. I think Resident Evil 2 is good. I also think the same thing about Resident Evil 2.

Fucked up, I know.

Things REmake 2 does better than the original
>puzzles
>level design (the RPD is actually non-linear in the REmake)
>Kendo's character
>adding the Orphanage
>the Super Tyrant, G3 and HUNK themes
Things RE2 does better
>cutscene direction
>files (excluding the retarded shit with Chris just leaving all his Umbrella investigation on his desk and in the FAX machine)
>all other music

They're both good desu

Hey guys, OP here, I forgot to mention that my favorite games of all time are Call of Duty and HALO, and that I only played RE2 and the other classic games because my dad had them in the basement. RE2 took me about 90+ hours to beat - I only had a little help from Youtube let's plays, so I feel pretty confident saying that I'm a better gamer than most of /vr/.

>>5431427
I legit laughed.

>>5427358
So you were 10 or 11 in january 98. No wonder you think remake2 is better, you fucking sucked at the first game, probably kept trying to kill every enemy and couldn't run in tank controls or dodge. I was 16 in january 98 just so you know.

>>5431730
Lol fuck off nigger. Being young and playing RE makes it even better since it is scarier. I played re2 when it was released for about 10 seconds before turning it off because it was too scary on 1998 when I was 10. I tried again in 2000 when I was 12 and it was scary but doable.

>>5431730
>No wonder you think remake2 is better, you fucking sucked at the first game, probably kept trying to kill every enemy and couldn't run in tank controls or dodge. I was 16 in january 98 just so you know.
Nope. I never found the original RE2 hard or tank controls challenging, hell I probably played it better as a kid than you even manage to do now (just the fact that you're even bringing up tank controls like they were ever hard in any way is all I need to know about how much you suck). My gripe with the original RE2 is not that it's hard -- on the contrary, my gripe is that it's far too easy. It might as well be an on-rails shooter with absolutely brain dead mechanics and poor survival horror design. To use a meme word, I'd describe RE2 as 'comfy', which I've realised is actually just a euphemism for 'casual'.

>>5416873
How do you dare to compare an old game such this with the remake? At that time re2 was awesome and was the best that we had in 1998 because IT WAS 1998 YOU FUKING RE-TURD.

Bowgun is great

OP is a nigger playing both sides