/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5415708
This is a /v/ tier post. Fuck off.

>>5415708
>>5415710
JRPGs are shit.

All original hardware will soon break.

>>5415708
Mad
>>5415710
Mad
>>5415721
Mad
>>5415728
Mad

Stay mad

>>5415708
There's nothing to feel ashamed about for liking a bunch of gay j-pop high school characters running around in a grey and bland game world wrapped in a dumb string of asspulls barely definable as a story. If that's who you are, be proud of it!

The N64 was the worst 5th-gen console

There's literally nothing wrong with emulation and people glorifying original hardware and CRTs are just desperately trying to convince themselves that spending money on yellowing and slowly self-destructing pieces of plastic has any point at all.

>>5415734
Agreed. It obviously had the best individual games as everybody in /vr/ that's not a zoomer contrarian agrees, but you would get more overall enjoyment from the PS's huge catalog

Sonic was always good.

>>5415739
It's called collector's fallacy, anon. It extends beyond just /vr/

>>5415739
There's nothing inherently wrong with 2nd-best, as long as you actually understand that you're getting 2nd-best.

>>5415747
agreed

Collecting video games is one of the best financial decisions you'll ever make, and one can never truly appreciate a video game by having some digital bytes on an sd card anybody and their mother can download in a few minutes.

>>5415779
>>5415785
kek yeah thats exactly how they sound like

>>5415708
Is it the FF8 part or the "objective" opinion part that's supposed to trigger?

>aged

You posted something subjective. Something objective would be the lack of localization of a great game that never got a translation. Or reminding people that there was a game that looked fucking great and it was cancelled before release for bullshit reasons.

>>5415831
Let the man meme anon

>>5415745
Why would you want to play a thousand mediocre games instead of a handful of fantastic and memorable ones? That mentality doesn't make sense.

JRPGs should stay in your memory and if you play them as a fully developed adult then you aren't one

>>5415878
I've been playing SMT4 lately and it's pretty rad.

>>5415878
Some RPGs have more complex themes and better stories than whatever Hollywood trash comes out for adults generally these days

Tactics Ogre is just the same mission over and over again, the map is a hill with your side at the bottom, the challenge is getting your archers far enough up the hill that they can demolish the map boss and end the mission.

Final Fantasy Tactics is slow, simple and boring.

Fire emblem is just a game rock paper scissors where you can see the oppositions hand ahead of time. Weapon durability never actually effects the game beyond adding busywork with trading and shops that make you feel more like a Jehova's Witness than a general. Positioning is irrelevant, the game is all about selecting which rock to smash at their scissors.

Shining force is just Fire Emblem with the needless fat removed.

90% of Doom and Doom 2 are unmemorable and uninspired maze/key levels from which zero pleasure can be derived.

Quake 2 is a generic FPS that wouldn't even be mentioned if it weren't for the Quake name.

Half-Life is an overlong, linear FPS with horrible feeling weapons and is only notable for adding tons of scripted scenes and events to the genre. The entire last third of the game is a complete slog.

Most people's favourite 'retro' games are placed on a pedestal purely because they were played during childhood and not because they're actually good. People here have reached an age where they would rather play games they've already played than try new ones because that would make them uncomfortable. /vr/ is a place of atrophy and decay.

Halo is /vr/.

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>>5415082

Your mom sucks cocks while dressed like Peach.

Most iD Software games are seriously overrated and not that good

JRPGs > WRPGs

The Amiga is very overrated and about 10% of its games are any good

Every Nintendo system after the NES is a Mario/Pokemon box without anything else good on it

There is no objective reason to play home computer/console ports of arcade games in this day and age because you can just emulate the real thing

You don't absolutely need a CRT except to play light gun games

Strategy and CRPG games in the 80s-early 90s are primitive and almost unplayable now

Retro hardware was often underused and demos/fan projects have shown that machines like the VIC-20 and Colecovision could do more than what games in their commercial lifespan demonstrated

Dragon Quest > Final Fantasy

The Genesis is better than the SNES for everything but RPGs and first party Nintendo

Most games that didn't get released outside of Japan stayed there for a reason and it usually wasn't because you missed out on anything

>>5415708
The only good final fantasy is final fantasy 1 for Gameboy Advance

>bad game is better than good game
Damn, you sure trolled us.

Sports games prior to the mid-90s and 32-bit machines are too primitive to still be playable

Flight sims are astonishingly boring

The Apple II may be primitive, but it has the lowest overall percentage of shovelware on any retro system

Dragon Quest 1 is a very fun game with lots of personality and gets a negative rap it doesn't deserve

NTSC C64 games > PAL C64 games

Sonic was only good for the first two games and that was it

Mega Man 1 is a tighter game with better music than the later ones in the series

JPCs are a meme and only useful for Wizardry and hentai/dating sims

Sega always sucked except in 1989 to 92

>>5415842
Because only autists would consider that a rich flow of different experiences doesn't outweight a handful of (arguably better individually) ones repeated over and over

>>5415903
>Most people's favourite 'retro' games are placed on a pedestal purely because they were played during childhood and not because they're actually good.
ok there's a difference between triggering and trolling. Your post made a lot of sense until you came up with this crazy talk... "not because they are actually good"... yeah like they are "good", even if they are biased to a particular era that doesn't somehow make them not good. A similar thing happens with music.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/10/opinion/sunday/favorite-songs.html

>People here have reached an age where they would rather play games they've already played than try new ones because that would make them uncomfortable. /vr/ is a place of atrophy and decay.
yeah let's all listen to the kids guys, they're not in a state of atrophy and decay, even though they only play fortnite and fear trying games outside their comfort zone.

>>5415938
Triggered like vegan at a barbecue.

>le zoomer gay shit

This dumb meme made it into my wrassling a couple nights ago.

>>5415975
This guy gets it.

>>5415708
/v/ermin go home

>>5415708
water puzzle is easy and not that good

Banjo-Tooie is a badly designed game due it is crippling overreliance on backtracking.

Fallout 1 +2 is inferior to NV in every way.

>>5415914
>Emulation Bad
>post from 2001
Of course it was bad than, Emulation was shit in the early 90's and 2000's. What shit bait.

>>5415903
>Quake 2 is a generic FPS that wouldn't even be mentioned if it weren't for the Quake name.
Well duh.
>Halo is /vr/.
No it isn't. Call it "retro" now if you like but that doesn't make it /vr/ material. No matter how old (the rest of) 6th gen gets, it'll still be cancerous.

Contrarians are mentally ill and cant handle objective good games being aclaimmed.
They always need to defend their obscure garbage.

Contrarians are mentally ill and cant handle objective good games being aclaimmed.
They always have to defend their obscure garbage.

oh look a halonigger hates retro fps. totally didn't see that coming.

>>5415708
FF I (on NES) is better than both.

>>5415730
>>5415721
>>5415710
>>>/v/

>>5415745
Nope! Do you actually read the Zelda threads? Or console war threads (pick one)? Half the board thinks those games and that console are shit.

>>5415842
Fuck you, get off my board, I hope your mom gets cancer.

The N64 was the best 5th-gen console

>>5416181
Nope. Playing without sound or transparency (SNES) was still superior to paying $.

>>5416308
Sure, buddy. Delusional faggot.

6th gen is retro. The only reason you fags get triggered over it is because that gen coincided with you entering your miserable adulthoods and losing your childhood wonderment for games. And don't you fucking dare say you're worried about "board quality" while you have dragged out 16 bit console wars, forced SOUL/SOULLESS meme shit from reddit, and blatant shitposting from underage ESL kids.

>>5415842
>That mentality doesn't make sense.
It does when PS1 and even the Saturn have a "handful of genuinely fantastic games" in multiple genres along with thousands of "mediocre" games that might actually be good depending on who you ask. It's better than N64 "classics" that are in the same 3 genres.

>>5416323
SONYNIGGER

>>5415708
Here's one:

You can easily find a pack of ff8 autists without even pointing out what a shitty game it is because they are constantly shilling it, even though Square isnt making money on it anymore

>>5415708
Yeah. That's why Square Enix is making a FF8 remake LOL get owned, nerd.

>>5415739
you speak the truth

>>5415728
In 100 years. This is why emulation is so important.

>>5415734
Saturn owners COPE

>>5415721
>>5415708
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>>5415878
>>>/v/

>>5415894
It really doesn't take much to be better/more complex than "whatever Hollywood trash comes out for adults generally these days" though.

>>5415708
>liked FFs 1-6
>liked FFs 10-14 (haven't played 15)
>disliked FFs 7-9

Debate me.

>>5415708
>>5415730
>>5416350
>...and many more

Haha, what a guy
Good job triggering the fags here, anon!

>>5416750
Can't debate the lack of chromosomes

>>5416354
the only reason they're not making a remake is because they have a copyright problem.
Get informed before speaking crap, nimrod

>>5415721
spbp

>>5415708
System Shock 1 and Daggerfall are unplayable.
Games should have story reminders incase you come back to it later and forget what you're doing.
There is nothing wrong with emulating.

>>5417039
wtf?

>>5415739
It's true, particularly for older systems like Atari and NES, but I really wish there were some actually good emulators for 5th and 6th gen systems. Good luck playing half the Saturn, Dreamcast or N64 library on emulator. I at least want semi-accurate emulation of a console before I use it over original hardware.

>>5417056
Give it another 10 years they'll get there.

>>5417039
>Games should have story reminders incase you come back to it later and forget what you're doing.

Fucking millennial entitled babies need everything to be done for them. Thanks for ruining games.

>>5417039
>Daggerfall is unplayable
I don't like you.

>>5415745
N64 has 3 good games. I was so pissed as a kid for wasting my money on that console. The rest for either okay or shit.

>>5416810
>muh copyright problems
They'd get over it real fast if they saw dollar signs in a FF VIII remake get owned nerdboy

The saturn has no games
>but but muh arcade games

>>5418604
As a person who recently bought and modded a saturn, I agree with you. It's shmups and fighters, the console. Which is fine, I love both of those genres; but I have an arcade cabinet that plays both much better. There aren't a lot of interesting 2d games considering how much it's touted as a 2d powerhouse.

>>5416810
How the fuck does a company lose the copyrights to their own game? What is even in the game that they could lose the copyright anyway? That one song that shows up near the end? Stupid.

>>5418726
the same way the beatles lost the rights to their music

>>5416810
Why the fuck remake this when they can try to do VI? Tbh, they would never do it right, so I hope it never comes out.

>>5415708
Retro games are old and has aged.

>>5415708
Yes, it's impractical and has a terrible library, but it's a cool concept regardless of what /vr/ thinks

>>5418669
Where'd you get your arcade cabinet?

>>5419292
I bought my current mame machine cabinet off of Craigslist and separate neo geo machine from a coin op auction in Southern California. The mame machine was a street fighter ex 2 machine that wasn't functioning when i purchased it but the monitor was still good. I've since repaired the jamma board.

Dr. Robotnik is the canon name since the US release was first.

Halo is the last /vr/ shooter.
Road Trip for PS2 was /vr/.
Ape Escape was objectively the best PSX exclusive.
Battletanx was better on N64 than PSX.
Pop-station games are /vr/.
Rubies of Eventide and Asheron's call were as /vr/ as EQ.
Morrowind was /vr/.
Any fps prior to DirectX 7 was /vr/.
GBA is /vr/.
Dark Basic is the engine that /vr/ should be making /vr/ games with.

>>5415903
What are some actual good turn based strategy games? The only ones I've ever enjoyed are Advance Wars games.

>>5420491
Hovendale Tactics for pc.

>>5415721
this but unironically

>>5415721
fuck off shmupnigger

>>5418307
Yes, let us leave him be. We don't talk to people like that.

>>5415708
GameCube and GBA are retro now, the mods are just fags

>>5419627
>Halo is the last /vr/ shooter.
Maybe?
>Road Trip for PS2 was /vr/.
I guess.
>Ape Escape was objectively the best PSX exclusive.
Incorrect, but it's up there.
>Battletanx was better on N64 than PSX.
This is correct.
>Pop-station games are /vr/.
This could have fun threads!
>Rubies of Eventide and Asheron's call were as /vr/ as EQ.
They absolutely are.
>Morrowind was /vr/.
Agreed.
>Any fps prior to DirectX 7 was /vr/.
Yea, okay.
>GBA is /vr/.
Totally.
>Dark Basic is the engine that /vr/ should be making /vr/ games with
Can't offer much input, I'm not a programmer.

2/10, polite disagreement. Try again :(

>>5415708
FF6 was the last good game released by Square.

>>5423329
GBA is retro; GameCube is not.

>>5415710
This is a /v/-tier board. Look around and tell me that's wrong. It's like some fucked up hate-child between /v/ and /vg/, but with a minute fraction of the population and a huge boner for justifying everything that's obsolete.
>>5415721
They are. Granted, I still like them but yes, they are.
>>5423329
The mods have been fags since time immemorial. The sky is blue, the Earth will remain, and mods are fags.
It's the most retro fact.

>>5423341
>GBA is retro; GameCube is not.
What's your criteria on that one, buddy?

>>5423352
GBA had mostly 2D games, many of which were remakes/sequels to NES and SNES games.

>>5423354
>retro is 2D
O h
b o y

>>5423354
>>5423359
I've always disagreed with the gba feeling retro. There are a bunch of 2d games, nut they have distinctly modern design.

>>5423341
If we want to argue that graphical quality dictates "retro", the DS is retro since it has the quality of an N64.

Once PS5 and XBOX WHATEVERTHEFUCK are released PS3 X360 and WII will be considered retro.

>>5423538
let's get to ps2 and xbox first

Dragon Warrior/Quest 1 is objectively a bad game no matter the version.

>>5423352
isn't gba pretty much snes-portable?

>>5423543
Only /vr/ thinks ps2, cube and xbox are not retro. Even sites these incen aspies try and make fun of can agree a near 20 year old system is retro.

The N64 has AT LEAST 60 good games. When you account for its relatively small library, this makes it the only console in history to break Sturgeon's Law.

>>5423331
at least you agre on Asheron's Call and Rubies of Eventide, a lot of Lambda Lambda Lambda fuckers here say they're too next-gen.

Also this is what Dark Basic looked like. shit was 1998 as fuck.

>>5416372
/v/ is full of jrpg-shit, you should join them

N64 was shit
Nintendo is gay and everyone who plays nintenshit is a faggot

>>5423504
How do you figure? They are entirely different.

>>5423680
Yeah, right.

>>5423862
No. You're REALLY reaching. If you'd said 20 maybe I'd agree, but even that is too high. NOTHING on this machine is worth playing today.

>>5426432
5th gen was the worst

>>5415925
>There is no objective reason to play home computer/console ports of arcade games in this day and age because you can just emulate the real thing

>you can just emulate the real thing
>emulate the real thing

You WOT m8?

>>5426463
Are you dumb? He means you can emulate the arcade games directly as opposed to emulating or even directly running a shitty port of the arcade game. Same goes for most home console ports of arcade games. There's really no reason to ever play MK1 SNES for example.

>>5426649
Emulate != real thing

You stupid faggot

Just because a game is new doesn't mean it's worse

>>5416750
It's not polite to pick on the mentally challenged

>>5415708
Zelda games are retreading the same old song and dance

Is FFVIII the board mascot game? Seems to always have a thread talking about it.

Why do people want to play vidya on old tvs? They're heavy as fuck and they have horrid resolution.

>>5423329
Can I talk about playing Super Mario Sunshine for the first time today on my Wii?

>>5415739
What about emulation with CRTs? Best shit. Too bad it requires a specific setup

>>5426441
If it works for you, use it. I see no issue with this.

>>5426764
Holy shit even when I explained what he was talking about you're still too fucking stupid to understand.

>>5423341
Get fucked 6fag

>>5428325
???
I'm sorry, but how is he getting fucked? FFT is for retards.

>>5428334
That would make FF6 for double retards

>>5423845
That's more or less how it's architecture is designed, with a few differences
>no X and Y buttons
>lower resolution
>much faster CPU and extra RAM does mode 7 and simple 3D in software instead of hardware based mode 7 and cartridge chips for simple 3D
>Audio processing nowhere near as good as the Sony SPC-700 chip in the SNES, (which Nintendo couldn't get a clone of for obvious reasons)

>>5426764
You're exactly like those faggots that buy music on vinyl

I play and enjoy both shmups and JRPGs

>>5418307
I actually love daggerfall's systems and mechanics but the game world feels way too hollow to actually serve as a good playground for all the customization options you get

Touhou are unironically good shmups

Not a big shmup fan desu.

Shmups are a basedeater genre