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5410289 No.5410289 [Reply] [Original]

why is MS3 considered the best one?
I've been playing through the first metal slug games (1-2-X-3) and 3 is the one I'm enjoying the least.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not saying it's a bad game (the total opposite), there's a lot of cool shit in the game like the bosses, setting and I think the spritework is the best the franchise got (and might even say it's some of the best ever), but i feel that this game went way too brutal with the difficulty (specially during the last mission, holy shit, it's a really fantastic setting but gameplay-wise it really drags down the experience).
I'll just say X is for now my pick for best metal slug game.

>> No.5410350

It's not. X is the best.

>> No.5410352
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5410352

Okay, i'll tell you because it's my favorite.

It has that iconic opening, and incredibly well paced crab level, then the secrets like the snowy level,the branching paths with variety I don't think the other games even mastered, that incredible second zombie level with the blood puke special (if you hate the alien boss fight at the end of that like any sane person, you can stay zombie and use your special to basically skip that entire shitty early section),

plus you have an actual plot involving the general and the aliens, The incredible plot twist which removes one of the four playable characters and then turns them into zombie duplicates, which you fight for the last quarter of the game , the entire ending section section which iirc involves you teaming up with shirtless machine gun guy who goes back as far as 1, and the enemy soldiers you've been slaughtering for the past 2 games , that awesome space section... it just nails the spectacle and creativity in a way that just feels impossible to top. There's a section where you are chasing after jeeps, shooting down giant bugs while wearing jet packs.

it's just FUN.

No, it does not have the best difficulty curve or game balance in the series. Even Metal Slug 1 feels more fair (holy shit those snow people get my blood boiling) but it nails a lot of what makes Metal Slug, Metal Slug, with pure spectacle, creativity and gorgeous visuals.

>> No.5410356

>>5410289
ms3 has the most content but x is the tighter and better game. If 2 was exactly the same without slowdown (no x changes) i think it would be the best personally

>> No.5410360
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>>5410352
It just has this feeling where as you approach the finale, even as you keep dying over and over, every time you see the next turn and next section it's this slowly growing awe of just how cool this shit is. Should it have sucked fewer quarters and eased off with the difficulty? fuck yes.

Does that change why it's so great? fuck no. I can't imagine beating it in an arcade, but with a modern emulated version with infinite quarters it's a fantastic and rewarding experience to plow through.

>> No.5410381

>>5410356
i played 2 overclocked and i didn't see any changes besides some aesthetics and maybe a bit easier on the difficulty (i can get to mission 4 without losing all my lifes in 2 compared to x where i already using a continue on mission 3)

>> No.5410391

>>5410356
2 has the fucking bullshit mummies in level 2 which puts it in the bottom ranking for sure. (Well, it would if there weren't so many shit Metal Slug games now.

>> No.5410465

>>5410289
>why is MS3 considered the best one?

no idea. half of /vr/ couldn't even beat MS3 with the default AES continues if they tried

>> No.5410470

>>5410289
Why is the file size listed on the front of the box?

>> No.5410498

>>5410470
was an old advertising technique since good ol' 1989...but retained even up to 2004

usually the best 16-bit games have massive meg counts...means the best graphics at the very least

Examples

Super street fighter 2 new challengers (40 meg on genesis)
Super Metroid (24 meg)
Bomberman 94 (pce, 8 meg)
streets of rage 2 (16 meg)
tales of phantasia (48 meg)
rondo of blood (pce cd...estimated at 18 meg)


even the smallest neo geo game (Puzzled, 22 megs) was much larger than an average snes or genesis game (8 megs)

just imagine the shock when samurai shodown came out with over 100 mega shock, baby!

>> No.5410537
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>>5410289
every one bitches about the last stage but splitting it into a 6th stage wouldnt actually do any thing. I think every one who bitches about is too stupid to realize that stage 5 for all intents and purposes is just a stage 5 and 6. Stage 5 is pretty good actually. Unless you're referring to all the god damn auto scrollers then yea there are too many. They went all out on Metal Slug 3 because they were going fucking bankrupt. It IS the best one though.

>> No.5410634

>>5410391
and 3 has bullshit zombies. fuck that stupid game

1 is still the best, then X

3 being the best is a dank meme

>> No.5410656

>>5410381
>and i didn't see any changes


lmfao then you are one blind and fucking dense cunt

you didnt notice all the completely changed enemy formations and placements? like when that fucking massive jet comes down on the train which it doesn't in 2? how can you be so fucking retarded? x is completely rebalanced to be harder 1-5 and slightly fairer on the last where as 2 is a joke until the last stage.

fuck me you are one dense mother fucking mom shite.

>>5410391
wtf? they are the easiest and least threatening in the entire game? why are you so dumb? just fucking jump over most of them.

>> No.5410676

The mission 5 twist shocked me more than most story games I've played.

>> No.5410693

>>5410289
3 has a lot of alternative pathways (also branching paths inside of branching paths), best level design and the best final level in the series.
I still haven't played 6 and 7, though.

>> No.5410705

>>5410693
>I still haven't played 6 and 7, though.

They're better than 4 though I kind of liked 5

>> No.5410708

>>5410705
I didn't enjoy 4 and 5 that much. I feel like way much thought was put into the previous Metal Slug games. 4 and 5 satiated my Metal Slug needs, but I wasn't satisfied with the games. I'll give 6 and 7 a try soon, I guess. They aren't long games. Also, didn't 7 get a PC release recently?

>> No.5410709

>>5410708
>>Also, didn't 7 get a PC release recently?

Yes, as Metal Slug XX

>> No.5410759

>>5410289
I like 1.

>> No.5411179

>>5410656
fuck off cee

>> No.5411631

>>5410289
1 is the shortest, easiest, has less multi-hit enemies, and uses the purest war theme.

3 is the longest, hardest, and has the most content.

X is kind of a balance between 1 and 3.

Which you prefer is up to you. They're all great.

>> No.5411716

>>5410289
It's not. Metal Slug 1 and X are the best.

>> No.5411783

>>5410289
Because 99.9% of players are credit feeding plebs who aren't thinking critically about game design. They're just happy for the crazyness and that even if just creditfeeding you're still exhausted by the end.

>> No.5411791

>>5410537
Jesus Christ I hope you're just doing a Spinal Tap / "This one goes to 11" meme.

>> No.5411803

>>5410705
Metal Slug 5 is really solid. Not too long. Coherent aesthetic. You're not abusing i-frames for all of it. A couple of bosses have too rough RNG for me though.

>> No.5411825

3 first level is much harder compared to the others, even more if you take the underwater path iirc.
X is all around the one I replay the most.
3 is the most epic storywise, that's why is so popular, and by far the harderst.

>> No.5412589
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>>5410289
>tfw can't 1cc MS3 because Mission 5 is TOO DAMN LONG TO BE ABLE TO PRACTICE HOLY FUCK. WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO CRAM 2-3 MISSIONS INTO 1!?
>tfw despite the XBOX/PS2 versions being the definitive ports with extra modes, they're brutally difficult in that if you continue, you have to start THE ENTIRE MISSION OVER

What masochistic bastard thought that was a good idea? It means that you pretty much HAVE to 1cc the entire fucking game which is already considered the hardest Metal Slug!

>> No.5412596 [DELETED] 

>>5412589
Just use savestates on MAME to split into smaller chunks that are more easily practiced.

>> No.5413160

what are the difference between 2 and x? I still need to play the latter after 1ccd 3.

>> No.5413561

Metal Slug 1, this game gets old really fast. One the positive side it runs with glorious 60 fps.

Metal Slug 2, has the nicest backgrounds, but the game lags so much due to all the crap that's going on, it really takes the fun out of it. First game to run with 30fps sprites.

Metal Slug x, optimized and sped up here and there, though the game feels forced. I think this was the point where you'd realize they are going to milk this engine and the 30fps animations forever.

Metal Slug 3, this was metal slug at its peak popularity. Lots of secret crap going on. A ton of animation going on. This probably stands out because it offers the most variety out of any of these games. The game itself is brutally boring and doesn't flow very well.

metal slug 4, uninspired korean crap.

metal slug 5, more of the same blandness.

The original Metal Slug was kind of cool and original at the arcade when it was new. For like two weeks, after that it started to smell a little.

The whole fucking series is just surfing on idiotic fanboyism at its most obnoxious. Go play some real games you stupid fucks.

>> No.5413565 [DELETED] 

>>5413561
>Metal Slug 1, this game gets old really fast. One the positive side it runs with glorious 60 fps.

Starting your list with false info, well done

>> No.5413845

>>5410537
i feel that stage 5 in ms3 is even longer than just 2 missions.
I think they should have deleted the part where you're flying inside the alien mothership and the section after you rescue your partner and go straight the escape cutscene and the 2nd fight with rootmars.

>> No.5413969

>>5411179
>someones so retarded they can't even see the glaringly obvious changes between 2 games

>somehow im the bad guy for pointing it out

enjoy your echo chamber tranny.

>> No.5413972

>>5413969
lol

>> No.5413975

>>5413561
>Metal Slug 2, has the nicest backgrounds, but the game lags so much due to all the crap that's going on


WRONG, it's because of a line of faulty code, trap15 on shmups forum found this and even corrected it for comission for a cart owner.


>>5413561
>One the positive side it runs with glorious 60 fps.
wrong

>>5413561
>optimized and sped up here and there,
it has completely rebalanced and re-ordered enemies, completely diff from 2

>>5413561
>metal slug 4, uninspired korean crap.
wrong.

>>5413561
>Go play some real games you stupid fucks.

t. never even 1cced metal slug

>> No.5414002

>>5410634
Except turning into a Zombie actually helps you with its broken special attack. Being a Mummy just fuckin sucks.

>> No.5414006

>>5413561
>imagine having this shit of taste?
Contra-fags still seething that they never reached MS3 level of kino.

>> No.5414227

>>5413561
>Metal Slug 1, this game gets old really fast
Game is 20 minutes long, take your ADD medication.

>> No.5414675

why people hate MS4 so much, i remember having fun with it

>> No.5414740

4 has dual machine guns, that alone makes it better than the overrated trash that is 3 and X

>> No.5416450

more like metal slut ahaha lol

>> No.5417728

>>5410360
Man that's a face to assassinate a presidential candidate for

>> No.5417762

>finally play XX

4 is not the worst MS game anymore

>> No.5418774

>>5417762
how bad it is?
I've only heard that the PC port is terrible.

>> No.5418787

>>5410289
MS3 is honestly better with the difficulty dipswitch turned all the way down. If only because it reduces the bullet sponginess of the enemies

>> No.5418809

>>5417762
you say that but notice that literally nobody has mentioned metal slug 6. the only good thing i remember is that it has weapon swapping like contra.

>> No.5418970

>>5414002
>poor balance is a good thing
>Being a Mummy just fuckin sucks.
it's punishing you for sloppy play retard.

>> No.5419073

>>5418809
MS6 is the absolute worst. Shit stages, shit graphics, shit music. MS7/XX is a partial improvement over it.

>> No.5419078

>>5418809
it also has ralf and clark

>> No.5420546

i liked 4

>> No.5422641
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>>5418970
>not wanting to be a badass zombie that nukes shit with his puke blood
>wants to be mummy because “muh punishment”

>> No.5423423

anyone played the neo geo pocket metal slug games?

>> No.5423759

>>5413845
i like the flight sections. i think in some ways that level works as a history of 2d shooters where you shoot your way through galaga and asteroids before the big metal slug finale

>> No.5425739

>>5414675
recycled assets makes it seem cheap and lazy (which it is). it's not unfun, but it's more like a fanmade ROMhack than a true sequel

>> No.5426283

>>5425739
>Complaining that MS4 is recycled assets when EVERY MS game is pretty much recycled assets

>> No.5426308
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5426308

I just bought Metal Slug 1, 2, 3, and X on GOG for childhood nostalgia, but I want to try it on MAME now since everyone says it's closer to original.

What's the best place to get the ROMs for em? All sites seem shady.

>> No.5426384

>>5426308
search "fightcade roms" on google

>> No.5427205

The underwater level still to this day completely fucks me.

>> No.5427449

>>5426384
You the real MVP.

>> No.5427746

>>5412589
Just emulate and use savestates to choose practice points my dude. There are some nice break points to practice, like when you rescue your captured buddy. Most "ports" are just emulation anyway.