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Hey guys, I'm OP dads .I remember when my son was playing this game he became very enraged and livid in the living room, raging at the screen and continuously yelling the words "cringe" and "bluepilled". I couldn't really tell what they meant. Afterwards I saw him furiously type on his mac laptop I bought him and saw him watch someone play the game instead. It baffled my mind why he would do this when he was already doing it previously. Anyways, sorry guys my sons a faggot, I tried to raise him right but it failed and I must now face the consequences

I never used one but myst.

>>5403185
Truth. I had to use a walkthrough of Metroid as something hard to write on to draw my maps when playing Zelda. Damn couch.

>>5403185
I disagree. The only thing I had trouble with in Zelda 1 was finding the 7th dungeon, which should have more or less become apparent where it was after they give you the hint but I am a dense motherfucker. I probably would have eventually found it but actually I saw it on the Zelda documentary. Still kind of mad about that spoiling that part of the game for me but meh, whatever.

tl;dr you shouldn't need a guide for Zelda 1 unless you're retarded

>>5403415
>was finding the 7th dungeon

That's the best and most clever part of the game though. Hiding a dungeon like that and figuring that out is such a huge 'oh shit' moment that the game builds up towards. LoZ is legitimately a solid IQ test, as you can solve pretty much everything by noticing the right patterns.

>>5403415
what zelda documentary?

>>5403445
I agree. but as I said i am one dense mofo, so I was oblivious to it and I guess im low iq tard. "whatever"

>>5403459
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGDznMLLyIo

>>5403185
Nethack and even then it can take years.

If you need a guide for The Legend of Zelda, maybe these kinds of games are not for you.

Castlevania 2 is pretty bad.

>>5403185

>>5403185
Literally anything if you're literally a millennial

>>5403209
based

this game, specifically that one dungeon with the clusterfuck of switches, barriers and elevators.

>>5403185
>walkthrough
I only used a map of the overworld.

HOW were you suppose to KNOW?

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>>5404063
His stomach was grumbling

>>5403224
Riven is 10x harder.

>>5404063
If only there were some sort of bait item that could lure monsters out of your way...

>>5403185
I beat this the first time (without a guide) when I was in 5th grade. I used a Game Genie, but I didn't use a guide.

>>5403649
I beat Castlevania II in 4th grade, before consumer Internet existed.

My 10-year-old self could beat it without clues or cheats. I guess people were smarter and more patient back then. Times were different before the internet.

>>5403209
6/10, maybe working on it could lead to a good counter troll pasta to all the shitposting lately.

>>5404073
>>5404156
neither of these makes any sense without prior knowledge of the solution.

>>5404130
You made me remember my brother got a big box release of Riven which included not only all the CDs but also a detailed strategy guide. Everytime I get reminded of the fact I just gave it away to someone else because I wasn't interested in playing it back then I get a huge feeling of regret. I've got both the GOG and a DVD-cover version but it's just not the same without the manual and that thick strategy guide ...

>>5403885
literally?

>>5404071
>>5406580
He's literally right though

Pic unrelated

>>5404063
I just tried items at random until one worked. I can see this being a problem if you've started new save files a couple of times before this and stopped buying the bait at some point.

Literally what's wrong with using a walkthrough?

This isn't 1989 and everyone at school is sharing Zelda tips and it's one of only three games you own so you spend hours and hours buttfucking every tile on the map figuring out where to go.

Got shit to do and other games to play.

>>5406580
Literally literally

>>5406864
It's your life but I don't see the point in playing something if you use a walkthrough. It doesn't feel like you're really playing it.

>>5403903
Daggerfall is pretty hard, but for me it was just a lot of fun. If you invest in the teleport spell the exploring dungeons is a matter of following one wall and then teleporting back when that leads (inevitably) to nothing.

It's the hidden doors that always get ya.

>>5407157
Sounds like you haven't been to that dungeon I mentioned. It's part of the main quest, somewhere halfway through.

>>5403415
I was 7 or 8 when I figured that out and I can still fucking remember the feeling of sheer excitement in that moment when I blew the whistle and the tornado did not appear. I don't think hearing that "found a secret" tune was ever more rewarding than that.

(The grumble grumble guy got me stuck for almost as long, but was much less exciting to solve)

Alex kidd in high tech world or its original version I dunno the name. alex kidd was pretty much a sprite swap they did for the western world.
who would pray 100 times at the shrine, man. that's bullshit

i'd always die to that constellation bullshit

At least pick something actually hard.

>>5407659
It must have been glorious.

Stop repeating this meme. I made my first blind playthrough last year and it's totally doable. Putting only one wall you can go through is bullshit though.

>>5407693
There are walkthroughs for this? How far you get depends almost entirely on which random items you find.

>>5408324
Not walkthroughs exactly, but you need a lot of knowledge of what items have what effects, how to identify them and strategies for how to deal with certain situations. Luck is a factor but on it's own is never enough. So there are spoiler guides if you want to spoil the game for yourself instead of figure out what. Rogue and roguelikes are one of the main places that term comes from.

>>5404073
Stomachs don't grumble, they rumble or growl. This is a case of poorly translating Japanese onomatopoeia. I'm positive that in Japanese he must have made a very specific sound that is only associated with hunger, but English doesn't have as much variety in onomatopoeia as Japanese, so it becomes confusing in translation.

>>5408479
It's pretty common English actually.

>>5408542
One of the many problems with dumb underage phone posters is that they google for something and don't see the number of results so think that because google found that one person who used a term once it's "pretty common". Another is that it's pretty common for them to use words incorrectly, where they end up in google search results to reinforce with other tards that it's common to misuse a word that way.

>>5409936
Your response makes me think you're probably not a native speaker of English.

>>5405769
>piece of meat that works on all other Moblins won't work on this one specific Moblin that's specifically displaying signs of hunger, not "without prior knowledge of the solution."

>>5409936
well put, i see this every day.
the oxford dictionary has an entry for "selfie".
collegiate institutions can't be trusted to uphold the english language anymore, let alone "google".
treating language like its something cooked up by a committee is deeply gay and progressivist; it's how they get away with retarded arguments all the time.

>>5410054
I like that its impossible to tell if you're being sarcastic or not

>>5410075
Either way they're on the side of asshole. We live and die by our decisions.

>>5410102
>t. ESL

>>5404130
>>5403224
I never beat Myst as a kid. I just enjoyed walking around looking at the comfy graphics and listening to the comfy sounds. I beat it as an adult and felt pretty proud of myself. Then I tried riven and got stuck, never went back. Probably should try again.

>>5408542
>It's on Google so it must be common everywhere!
Fuck off, no one in my part of the US ever says their stomach is "grumbling." Just about everyone says "growling" and a few people say "rumbling." But my point was that Japanese actually has very specific onomatopoeia that is used near-universally in their media throughout the country, so there are probably less of these regional differences causing problems there. Whereas in English speaking countries these kinds of things are highly regional.

>>5410297
Not him but I've heard grumble like that more than rumble for sure

>>5406864
To a lesser degree, this.

Earthbound came with a walkthrough for this exact reason and I'm fucking SHOCKED it hasn't been mentioned yet, since it's a vastly inferior game without the manual.

>>5410297
You're the one saying it's regional and at the same time insisting because you didn't hear it commonly that it's not common language. Don't you get the irony?

>>5410791
It's not common in all regions, that's my fucking point. I'm sure it's used SOMEWHERE, but that doesn't mean it's common EVERYWHERE, and that's exactly the problem. Back in the days before everyone had internet, these regional differences were much more stark and people were a lot more closed off from other places. You couldn't just Google a word or phrase and find any esoteric definition you could possibly want like you can today, so if there was a word or phrase used only in some other part of the country or world you probably just didn't even know about it at all. The localizers should have found a more universal way to translate it.

>>5410915
>You couldn't just Google a word or phrase and find any esoteric definition

Right you could use a dictionary which provides a perfectly fine definition of a common word if for some reason it wasn't used in your region. There's no reason at all why it should have confused anyone.

>>5410952
The dictionary definition of "grumble" doesn't mention stomachs at all, even today, even in the example sentences. The definition is "A mutter of discontent." That's not necessarily related to food, it could be anything.

>>5403185
Super Hydlide

>>5410968
Even if you'd never heard grumble in relation to a stomach it shouldn't be hard to figure out. Even if then somehow you didn't equate it to his stomach specifically it shouldn't be that much of a stretch. I dunno, stomach grumbling is a normal turn of phrase so it's hard to imagine not understanding it.

>>5410968
>>5410297
Oh fuck off, not only was "grumble" commonly used by the culture at large in comic books or cartoons or in coloring books as a stand in for the sound your stomach makes, but, more importantly, even if you were a 5 year old who couldn't read (which I was) you have about 8 items in your inventory total and after you've walked up to him and tried all the things in your inventory (which takes about 20 seconds) you'll have opened the way; which me and every other five year old kid was able to do.

And the funny thing is, even if "grumble" did mean anger (which it does also) there's only about two items in your inventory that could potentially pacify an angry monster, food or potions. Every single time one of you faggots comes out to complain about the "cryptic" shit in this game, it's always some room temperature IQ garbage that every kid figured out effortlessly. The hard part of this game was the blue darknuts and the wizzrobes, not finding Dungeon 7 or giving meat to the hungry / angry monster.

>>5403185
WHAT THE FUCK IS "EASTMOST PENINSULA"!?

>>5403185 LOZ is far from impossible, unless you are a bitch

>>5409936
My ESL dictionary from the 70's that got 6 yo me through the game sure knows what "grumble" means. Don't be butthurt just because you're an illiterate amerifat.

I could never get into it, it's all too much pointless wandering trying to find the dungeons. It's fine if you're 8, but I'm an adult and have things to do.

The fucking cages, this one was brutal

>>5411123
Fuck me if I know, it's not in the original Japanese, but most theories suggest it's talking about the heart container island you get by riding the raft on the eastern coast, or the massive rupee bonus in the northeast-most part of the map.

I guess it was my fault, but come on. I was seven.

>>5409984
My response made you retarded? Pretty sure you always were.

>>5411752
Epic irony. With a big dose of stupid.

>>5412030
You're both calling me retarded and talking about how limited your scope of English is. I'd ask if you say the irony but your same post makes me realize I don't think you understand that word either.

>>5408479
No, in Japanese he makes a very specific sound that is only associated with muttering to oneself. The only thing "confusing" about the translation is that retards think you WERE meant to assume he was hungry because they think stomachs "grumble".

>>5412235
Stomaches do grumble though...

>>5412184
>my scope of English is so limited i can't understand what you're saying
FYFY

>>5411870
>Link
>right-handed
Way to ruin an otherwise nice piece of art.

This instantly comes to mind.

Simon's quest
>Lol bro, is just obvious you have to stand here in this place with an item and a tornado will come and take you to the other side of the dead end.

>>5412446
Oh dude, fuck this game. I tried to play this once, and the combat takes a lot of getting used to. Not to mention all the cheap insta-deaths.
It's like playing D&D where the DM is the biggest asshole imaginable.

>>5412461
And it goes on like that until the end. Watch the final battle on youtube, you must have the exact items and press the exact buttons at exact times, to finish it.

>>5412454
Now that was some advanced faggotry. I was lucky enough to see the solution in some gaming magazine as a kid but a lot of people would have had the game ruined.

>>5403185
Strategy guides were a lucrative market back then so games were often intentionally made cryptic so you’d subscribe to Nintendo Power or buy the official guide.

>>5412505
>a lot of people would have had the game ruined
Joke's on you, I was shit at the game and never got that far : )

>>5403185
Zelda II is a far more confusing game. I didn’t know what the fuck was going on when I was a kid.

>>5412454
You're literally told this in the game you illiterate dumbass.

>>5403185
I don't think I have ever played a game without using a guide of some kind.

>>5403185
Anything by sierra

>>5403185
I was stuck on the "nogf" puzzle for 24 years.

>>5410297
I've never heard anyone say rumble for stomach. Maybe you just thought they said that because of shitty mics?

>>5412371
Wow you really don't have any reading comprehension at all.

>>5409936
>fuck I got to argue against visible proof
>I KNOW...

>>5412454
The only problems I had with that game
1. Knowing how to get a good ending (never found out until a couple years ago)
2. Dropping garlic in that one cemetery to get that bag you really didn't need but to 100% the game (going out totally by accident)

>>5412837
Yup. My reading comprehension is so bad it's rubbing off on you can making you retarded. Holy fuck you're stupid.

>>5413001
You're the one complaining about not knowing how gumbling gets used. Then you claimed I didn't understand what you were saying. I still think if English really is your first language it's pretty embarrassing.

>>5413297
It's time for you ESLs to go back. We need age and literacy verification for this board.

Wizardy 7: Crusaders of the Dark Savant.

I have the utmost respect for anyone who was able to beat this back in the day without a walkthrough. There must be only a precious few out there who can make that claim.

>>5414781
Says the guy whining that he doesn't understand how grumble is used...

>>5412537
>Last town in the game is hidden in a small forest area
>Game expects you to instinctively know to use the hammer item to attack the forest tiles until it pops up
>This forest tile smashing doesn't work in any other part of the world map.

>>5403185
Nigga I was 8 years old and didn't need a guide.

>>5408542
>Stomach noises- rumbling, gurgling and growling
You realize rumbling is in the word grumbling right? And that might skew your results?
Grumbling is like muttering to yourself when you're angry.

>>5415847
Are you even being serious now?

>>5415789
Actually it does.

>>5406838
Literally no shit

>>5410035
It’s a goriya not a moblin

>>5403209

crack sip Zork

>>5403185
Platoon Nes. First jungle a literal maze. Got to the last stage one time when I was a kid. Four stages so hard and some what cryptic you had to trial and error repeatedly to progress

nightmare puzzles

>>5412480
Lol, all of that for that shitty "Game Over" ending.

>>5415789
Took me eight years but I figured it out. I think I had used 212 continues before beating that game. Despite that, it's one of my favorites.

>>5412446
Did european ea megadrive games also come on those bizarre oversized carts?

>>5403185
I think that the problem is more on our side. We are becoming these consumerism fags that want to get everything right away so we use walkthrough/drop the game but i bet if we played it back then we would mindlessly wonder and do obnoxious shit in game for hours. That being sed, my boy pussy cannot handle this nowdays. Im 21

>>5403185
Mario RPG in Spanish.

>>5406864
There's nothing wrong with it as long as you only use one when you're absolutely stuck for a good long while. Point and click adventure games are hard to play without a guide for me nowadays because the solution is only a few clicks away, and some of the puzzles in those games can be extremely obtuse, or I happened to miss an item that blends really well into the background.

>no Dragon Quest II/DWII mentioned
it's like you niggers aren't even trying.

>>5406864
If you have other games to play, why not play them instead of ruining your current game?

>>5412617

had to give up on both kings quest V and VI and i was a teenager