/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5397283
>inb4 "how the developers intended it"

>obsession
I always kept a CRT around. Recently a friend gave me a consumer Trinitron he didn't want so I replaced my old Sharp that was already kind of beaten up.
Anyway, what's your obsession about how other people play their games? Those of us who actually grew up during /vr/ times just played with these TVs. You know, there weren't HD screens back then.
I would argue that playing on SD displays is preferable for retro games, but it doesn't have to be a CRT, there are SD flat screens too.

As a kid I played games for several years on a shitty little black and white TV. I dreamed of the day I could play on a massive display.

Now I play all my retro games on a 65in HDTV and I'm quite pleased with the setup. I never noticed scan lines as a kid either. I love the raw pixel look.

What kind of dumb question is this

If you must ask go to the CRT thread and learn more, don't be a dumbass and expect to be spoonfed

>>5397283
A high quality, well maintained CRT looks really good man; have you tried one?

>>5397283
What the fuck is your obsession with /vr/ and why older games work best on their intended displays?

>>5397392
Unfortunately yes. I fell for the Sony Trinitron meme like an idiot. I also bought an LG curve 4k.p Ultra HD.
With the LG curve I used this Atlona upscaler attached behind a converter. Resolution is so fucking beautiful.

>>5397283
I have a CRT because my N64 looks like garbage when hooked up to my HDTV.

>>5397410
Get one of these >>5397406 trust me

>>5397405
>intended
that word is forbidden in this thread, see >>5397285

>>5397414
Those things cost hundreds of dollars, don't they? I got my CRT TV for like $50 and it works great. Why would I replace it with some expensive piece of equipment that will probably add input delay? Maybe if my CRT breaks and there's no way to get a cheap and functional CRT to replace it I'd go the converter route, but not before then.

>>5397283
Scan-Lines on a CRT?

>>5397416
I'm glad he called it out before the retards poured in here. Almost makes me want to read the factory manual for my PS1 and my DC.

>>5397283
Because old games are low resolution and look bad on modern, high-resolution displays. They were designed with the limitations of the display technology of the time. Much like how older movies were made knowing that the effects and stage makeup on their actors wouldn't be obvious when viewed from a film projector or broadcast on television. When you watch an HD remaster of a old movie, you can see makeup lines, wires, matte painting lines; it looks terrible.

>>5397424
Because there's no such thing as a 74-inch CRT... plus CRTs are too space consuming.

Because why shell out shitloads of money for multiple sources of input lag like this >>5397406 in order to not vomit when you play, when you could play the games how they're supposed to be played on something incredibly cheap and widely available?

>>5397424
>not getting it for free

>>5397440
are you epically 90s or what? get with the program

>>5397440
>CRTs use too much space
>btw i need a 74" screen
lemme guess, you live in some shitty tiny apartment where one entire wall is taken up by some gigantic vizio chinkpanel

>>5397439
>look bad on modern, high-resolution displays
It doesn't have to look bad is what I'm saying. The fact that /vr/ makes it important for retro gamers to know that "if you don't go CRT, you're an autistic brainlet fucktard nigger faggot" is annoying. Other Retro game forums clown on /vr/ all the time for this.

>>5397440
I just have a 19-inch CRT on my desk, which is a good size for using from a couple feet away, and it only takes up space that I wasn't using prior to having it anyway. Why the hell you would even want a retro game blown up to 74 inches is beyond me.

>>5397446
Everyone in my area got rid of all their CRTs years ago. The few that remain get sold on craigslist and those people always know they can sell it with the "gaming" tag to inflate the price. Used electronics shops and thrift stores don't accept CRTs any more. I actually ended up getting my CRT on ebay for cheaper than I could find anywhere within 50 miles of my home.

>>5397427
>Almost makes me want to read the factory manual for my PS1 and my DC.
There is no such thing as a PS1

https://www.playstation.com/en-us/support/manuals/ps/

I don't see any reference to an LCD in this owners manual. Should you doubt me, you can do any further research. I can guarantee that you won't find a single instance of the term "LCD".

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397457
>lemme guess, you live in some shitty tiny apartment where one entire wall is taken up by some gigantic vizio chinkpanel

And he probably is sitting so close to it that he has to move his eyes or head to see the whole picture because he doesn't understand how screen size and viewing distance are related and just thinks BIGGER IS BETTER.

>>5397449
>get with the program

Not an obsession for me. I just hate input lag on games like Tetris Attack, because it legitimately makes the game unplayable at a competetive level. I also like light gun games.

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397468
>>5397478
>>5397489
>>5397496
samefag, also.. .don't shoop a pic to prove you're not. faggit

>>5397506
>get with the program

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397486
>at a competetive level
so you're saying that if 2 were competing in the exact same hardware conditions except that one would be monitoring on a modern screen after the a/d conversion the one with the crt would have an advantage over the other?

>>5397517
Yes, because the one playing directly from the CRT would be experiencing less input latency.

>>5397521
So you've done the comparison yourself...

>duurrrr technology

>>5397406
My nigger. Use this with my Dreamcast.

>>5397521
ok, but how much input latency... is it really significant? we're talking about a eye/hand coordination here. a human can't react as a machine does.

my arcade cabinets use crts but i dont go nuts over them i'd be much happier and less anxious with LCDs but they cannot be mounted easily or effectively.

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397283
STOP ENJOYING WHAT I DO NOT ENJOOOYYYYYY

>>5397283

>>5397443
>how they're supposed to be played on something incredibly cheap and widely available?

Thrift stores stopped taking the things a while ago.

INPUT LAG

One big issue is that TVs haven't had S-video inputs since about 2008 and for 4th and 5th gen consoles it's the best video output they can do.

>>5397530
Smartest person in this whole thread

>>5397728
SNES has RGB but good luck finding the cable and it also has composite sync so you can't just use it with a line doubler+VGA monitor.

>>5397531
If Mario doesn't flicker when he gets hit by enemies, then you have too much IL.

>>5397283
Crt do not have scan lines.

>>5397443
>not vomit when you play

ironically CRTs have made me nauseous since forever. even back when I was spending multiple hours every day in front of them.

>>5397283
What's your obsession with being a poor underage shitposter? There's plenty of shit you can read about why people use CRTs. You don't need to shit up the board with another angsty little CRT hate thread.

zoomer vs boomer thread?

It feels comfy to play games on my flatscreen that my mom got me for my birthday years ago. It's like a movie theater! Thanks mom!

>>5397919
Pretty much

>>5397461
> Other Retro game forums clown on /vr/ all the time for this.
it's a lot more than this lemme tell ya

PHOSPHORSSSSSSSS

>>5397424
You can still get new ones from China but they're absolute bottom-feeder level.

It's all about the authentic retro experience. Retro games were made with CRTs in mind and it clearly shows. These TVs "hide" the imperfections of the limited hardware while accentuating the positives. They give them a distinct look and feel.

>Several years ago people kept giving me their CRTs as they upgraded to LCDs
>Have 6 TV CRTs collecting dust
None of them are good quality but whatever. I wish I stole more PC CRTs when I had the chance. Someone let me into a store room full of old computer junk back in like 2005 and I took a single small CRT back home as people kept dumping them at this place and nobody wanted them.

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397991
I ve got 2 I main and 3 collecting dust. I want to find retro homes for them and not trash them. I kind of want to keep them for parts just in case but I want my space back and need to store them somewhere though
.>>5397984
This. Old games look great on them.

>>5397449
>get with the program

>>5397984
As a zoomer, finally getting to have my own CRT feels like having a nice electronic fishtank sort of thing for vidya. Like it's a "playground box", in a way. It looks so warm compared to the coldness of playing them on the LED, even with upscalers, there's a piece missing in the image, and the CRT has that.

>>5397283
I'll defend CRTs all day but visible black lines are just a mistake.

Wtf is a zoomer/boomer?

>>5398123
>Wtf is a zoomer/boomer?
get with the program faggot

I don't actually believe that the scanlines make a huge difference, I just think they look neat.

>>5398130
>get with the program
You're everywhere aren't 'cha, you little faggot.

>>5397461
>Other Retro game forums clown on /vr/ all the time for this.

Please go back to those forums and stop shitting up /vr/. We concur you have superior taste so please stop talking.

>>5397449
What's so funny about this post? I don't get it.

>>5398240
...Get with the program.