/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[2-18] SIGIL delayed until April
https://rome-ro.squarespace.com/news/2019/2/16/sigil-update

[2-13] NBlood released, an open-source port of Blood modeled off EDuke32
https://twitter.com/nukeykt/status/1095422953334857728

[2-10] Evilternity updated to final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103425-final-release-eviternity/

[2-9] BTSX E3 screenshots
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557-back-to-saturn-x-episode-3-wip/

[2-9] Quake2XP receives an update
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1269-beta2

[2-8] Sunder and Deus Vult II resume development
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/45774-dvii-second-edition-underway-its-time/?do=findComment&comment=1960915
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder/?do=findComment&comment=1961207

[2-8] XLEngine on Github
https://github.com/Mindwerks/XLEngine

[2-8] New DBP project: Mindblood Genesis
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104171-mindblood-genesis-dbp08-released-a-limit-removing-project-from-doomer-boards/

[2-5] Doomba - Roombas used for mapping
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103677-roomba-mod-will-map-your-house-and-then-make-it-into-a-doom-map/

[2-3] Anon map release: SCRAP
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file

[2-2] Neural-upscaled textures for Quake 2
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-upscaled-pack

[1-26] Odamex 0.8.0 released, now using SDL2
https://odamex.net/boards/index.php/topic,3182.0.html?PHPSESSID=vtj14rfqgmd8se632212rcooq4


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help pls
pls help

i need that retro fps character personality sheet
the one with Sarge from Q3 reading newspaper comics and hating them

Damn almost got first

GZDoom has been forked by russians

Link:

gzdoom . at . ua (remove spaces)

"GZDoom Enhanced" is a source port for the modern era, supporting current hardware and operating systems (Windows 7, 8.1, 10 64-bit) and sporting a vast array of user options. This is an enhanced an version of GZDoom (a source port by Graf Zahl) that expands Doom (a classic first person shooter game made by id Software) even beyond to make it great again!

>>5380372
I don't get Doom 64.

>>5380391
Based russkies. Graf BTFO

>>5380391
So GZDoom is now officially 3D abomination like JDoom, Risen3D?

>>5380415
>fanmade fork
>officially

>>5380398
I guess because it's on a Nintendo console.

>>5380398
Tbe Unmaker starts off as a wonky clone of the plasma rifle before you find any upgrades which are hidden

>>5380407
Graf was always eternally BTFO though.

>>5380391
>>5380415
I'm guessing this is just GZDoom with vasyan's thing preloaded

>>5380420
Yes but that (((fan))) uses search engine optimization to promote his GZDoom with all that crappy 3D stuff built in.

Once the website will reach the search engines people will be confused which gzdoom to pick - original one or the one that is called "Enhanced GZDoom" if they will try to find gzdoom by typing "gzdoom" in Google.

I guess it's sort of trolling.

>>5380443
>I guess it's sort of trolling.

If the TLD and positive reference to that country's (((friendly neighbors))) wasn't enough...

Thoughts?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R7B3HeJD9bw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ePy_iNl06g4

>>5380443
>I guess it's sort of trolling.

Its not trolling. Russians just like 3D models and hate 2D sprites. They hate 2.5 games and prefer 3D models, even of only crappy ones are available.

>>5380443
What a dumb slippery slope, gzdoom will always be the result you get on google. Plus people will not randomly google it if they know of its existence, most certainly they'll know it through some youtube video that their favourite eceleb made with a download link in the description.

>>5380467
They may promote get it to the top on Yandex through SEO. It's kind of russian Google. Most russians are using Yandex.

Yandex gives priority to the russian websites.

>>5380469
I thought Russians only played Heroes of Might and Magic III 24/7.

>>5380475
They used to play Doom as well. But now they hate it, because Romero supported trans rights (russians are very homophobic). Now they hate Romero (just look a picture they made on russian Doom thread, ПИДOP means Faggot). So they think that Romero has zashkvaril Doom and Doom is a game for gays now (in russia if you supported gay you become gay as well and people won't talk to you or shake your hand), so they decided to give up on playing Doom and now they want to destroy Doom community by spreading all these 3D models.

>>5380487
>ruining Doom as a whole because Romero is a screw-up
They need to harness that power and use it more efficiently.

>>5380364
come on guys
someone has to have it

>>5380487
this is some old school newgrounds/"hater" deviantart culture shit

>>5380391
KikeZahl utterly and totally BTFO'd

Go Russia

>>5380506
>expecting any better from actual subhumans

>>5380415
PBR textures can be very nice if you keep them low res like the original textures/create them from the original maps. Pixel-perfect normal maps and the like.

>>5380487
Please go away vasyan

Nice

>>5380497
I know, but this trans thing triggered russians so much. In russian Doom community they now massively rejecting playing wads with original doom.wad/doom2.wad, because these iwads contain Romero's art. They still play Doom but only with freedoom.wad or that 3D model/hires pack.

In russia if someone supported gays, that person becomes gay as well and the things that this person touches (like art, games) become gay as well. It's called by one word "Zashkvar". Also if you call a non-gay person by a word "gay" - you may get punched in your face, because a word "gay" is offensive in russia. So for russians Doom became a gay thing (trans people are considered gay in russia as well). I know russian mentality is kind of sick.

>>5380487
based Russians

>>5380521
>So for russians Doom became a gay thing (trans people are considered gay in russia as well). I know russian mentality is kind of sick.
The background is interesting, but you can get off your pro-trans soapbox, this is /vr/ not /mentalillnessgbt/.

>>5380524
Seconding this, the Russians did some things wrong but that isn't one of them.

>>5380523
>People act like legit douchebags with the maturity of a 12 year old
>wow so based

>>5380524
>>5380529
Down the road, not across the street.

>>5380521
Woke I must say. You guys get more sympathetic by the hour.

>>5380521
>I know russian mentality is kind of sick
They are objectively correct.

Hiro, I know you're fucking reading this.

BLOCK *ALL* OF EASTERN EUROPE, AND BAN THEM FROM USING PASSES AS WELL.

Shit like the state of this thread right now is why.

>>5380531
Stop being such a faggot no body cares about a bunch of subhuman monkeys bitching and moaning about gay shit. Now lets go back to talking about doom.

>>5380535
>>5380529
>>5380524
>>5380523

>>5380537
Someone hurt your fee-fees again? :(

>>5380542
I agree, that's why Hiro should fucking listen to reason for once: >>5380537

>>5380543
Give the Slavic "peoples" a chance and they'll fuck everything up.

>>5380537
>please censor stuff i don't like
dumb tranny

>>5380553

Hey, this thread derailed faster than usual.

>>5380559
Blame the slavshit on it's proxy.

All of them need to be put in mass graves. Every. Single. Member. Of. Their. Population.

Just a page and this thread has been invaded by fucking tryhard edgelords.

>the side defending transexual mental illness immediately resorts to calls for genocide and telling people to commit suicide because people don't just bend over and accept it
>they're supposed to be the good guys on the right side of history

>>5380565
Amazing what occurs if /v/igger shit isn't ignored entirely.

>>5380570

>Russian GZDoom Ripoff

>>5380575
>anything I don't like is muh /v/ boogeyman, my precious /vr/ would never do anything bad! no true scotsman!

>>5380576
I'm butthurt for pointing out how only one side of this trackwreck is the one saying people should die, and it's not the "edgelords"?

>>5380587
>Defending slavic subhumans

>>5380585
>defending /v/iggers

Which one is your favorite?

>>5380584
It's logo is Green so you know it's gonna be boogers and puke

>>5380595
Those tiny pinkies are hilarious.

>>5380593
>tranny calling others subhuman

>>5380598
It's from a Russkie. It was destined for naught but failure in the first place.

>>5380606
MUST BE DUH ENEMI4E DURRH URRR URHURR CUZ I DONE BEEN DISAGRIZZEED WIZZITH.

I'm going to laugh when they found out your killer fucked your corpse.

>>5380595
the lost worm is adorable.

>>5380595
I remember this artist, most of his game design ideas are long winded and dumb, but I like his art and designs

>>5380608
>I'm going to laugh when they found out your killer fucked your corpse.

You can't kill someone who has no life.

>>5380623
Yeah, they're silly but in a good way. This has to be my favorite

>>5380631
>Cyberdemon with a mohawk

>>5380570
Really makes you think...who's the greater evil...Russians or batshit insane Liberals.

>>5380585
Better than naming individuals that haven't been seen for years
>picrelated "omg which boogyman is it, fingerpointing point point point point"

>>5380595
I don't recognize half of this g*y ass candy shit.

Also, no girls allowed.

Can tranniefags gtfo already?

>>5380631
>when Doom and Zoomers collide

>>5380646
>shitweeb talking shit

>>5380631
Hayfeverdemons

>>5380595
Chunk Elemental

>>5380487
So russians made GZDoom fork and separate website, because zdoom.org and it's owner officially supported trans rights? So the GZDoom build downloaded from zdoom.org is considered gay, but the GZDoom build downloaded is considered non-gay in russian mentality? I'm right?

>>5380659
fix: but the GZDoom build downloaded from any other website is considered non-gay in russian mentality? I'm right?

> 75 posts
> 21 posters

stop samefagging

>>5380650
Check the FAQ, Roundeye
4chan is anime centered.

>>5380670
>muh anime website
it quit being an anime website around 2007, fag

>>5380649
???

>>5380675

>>5380670
then go to the board about anime if you want to post anime
you don't go to a hardware store to order a fucking burger

>>5380680
imagine being this visibly affected by a gif.

>>5380687
>says the subhuman reactionary shitweeb who bursts into treats if a minority so much as looks at it

>>5380680
The anime boards aren't containment boards

>>5380692
is this english? are you drunk?

>>5380692
>treats
>minority
excuse me what

guys how do flynn the kick imp?

>>5380694
>>5380696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_4TNF8K7DY

>>5380662
Yes. Rachael (zdoom.org) owner supported gay rights (trans are gay in russia). So a gzdoom build from zdoom.org is considered gay as well and if you download it from there you attach a bad spiritual energy to yourself when playing it.

But if you download gzdoom build from any other website it stops being gay. Also russians removed and replaced all romero assets in their build and it's no longer working with doom2.wad/doom.wad. You can play it only with Freedoom.wad. They added a mod that adds 3d and hires alternatives to romero's 2d artwork.

>>5380680
that analogy would make sense in a entirely different context, not a scenario where you want someone to stop posting a single file which won't go anywhere after the fact.

>>5380702
I don't see anything worth cracking laughs at here. you're really strange.

>>5380703
It's not every day you see people properly utilize their anger and channel it into a productive setting. I gotta give them kudos for that.

>>5380692
fucking state of this seething tranny

>>5380646
>>5380650
>>5380670
>>5380675
>>5380679
>>5380680
>>5380687
>>5380692
>>5380693
>>5380694
>>5380696
>>5380702
>>5380706

Are you fucking kidding me?

>>5380715
you replied to all of the posts all of them oh yeeeeeahh

>>5380564
>"yeah, the thread derailed"
>derails further by inaccurately blaming a group of people
I'm (>>5380524) from the other side of the world than eastern europe you narrative-driven mongoloid.

>>5380659
According to the earlier anon who brought it up, yeah, but i doubt thats the only reason for the fork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggNYEwzfWC8
Doesnt look like cancer to me. Interested to see where it goes.

>>5380725
Go fuck a baby, catholic scum.

>>5380650
>>5380675
>>5380680

>>5380725
whoos, pasted wrong url
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDf6691-7oU

>>5380723
Thanks, I know!

>>5380715

>>5380742

>>5380742
I love that one.

So, does anyone have an ancient-ass wad called FUNHOUS5.wad?
Meant for deathmatch, five levels, has it's own demos... Anyone?
There's only a FUNHOUS6 up on IdGames, but that's only a version of the fifth map.

>>5380715
I love that movie. Shame the nurse didn't have the same body she had in the book though.

>>5380751
I can't watch that movie anymore. Legit gave me a fear of losing my mind/lobotomies.
I never read the book... hope it has a less bothersome ending than the movie, eugh!

Odd choice of characters for a cover

>>5380761
The book is different in that the narrator is the chief native american guy, whereas the movie focuses more on Jack Nicholson's character.

>>5380764
Yoshies -- True Leviathans.
I mean what else kind of creature would have an endless gullet?

>>5380731
Is this really a slav?

are we back on track yet

>>5380746
there was no argument.

>>5380776
No. Give it another three hours

>>5380774
So it's ausies pretending to be slavs?

>>5380746
>someone felt the need to retaliate against literal MS paint creations
this is amusing in an odd way

>>5380341
Colorful Hell Updated
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=47980

>>5380638
Why not both?

>>5380521
Well, if they're trying to make me MORE sympathetic to trans rights, I think it's working.

Report and Ignore shitters

What's the verdict on Gggmanlives? Is he shit?

CAN WE JUST STOP FUCK
I THOUGHT THIS WAS GONNA BE A FUN THREAD WERE WE QUOTE SIMPSONS AND TALK ABOUT NEW WADS CAN WE STOP BEING FUCKING PESTS

>>5380834
He ok

>>5380834
I like his style but sometimes his attempt at humor are meh

S o n n y J i m

>>5380834
Shit at games, good at editing videos

>>5380845
mods are asleep i guess

>>5380854
Or just as likely, they've already chosen their side.

>>5380834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmwDPOlCNLU

>>5380845
aurora borealis?

>>5380865
Which Doomed Hams is better?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvXsQ8QQQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggOMpAETNTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ySKPSjPuaQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbMxibUvVco

>>5380880
Close tie between 1 and 3

>>5380880
The first one you posted is my favorite. Doors closing automatically and good use of Doom sounds is hilarious. Love the ending too:
"No mother, it's just the devil."

>>5380521
Yet these guys don't realize, that Romero also did programming and designed the gameplay of Doom. Romero's influence can't be removed without removing the whole Doom. Who the fuck should care what kind of things the developers stick into their assholes, if the politics are not forced in their games. That's like some Islam bullshit. A superstition.

"Romero gay, so Doom gay. Must play Doom, and must not be gay. Me bless Doom with shitty 3d models, so gay go away. Now can play Doom and not become gay."

>>5380715
There should be a limit to the number of posts you can tag. 4ish.

>>5380303
Difficulty is fine on solo on HMP. I was too scared to go with UV.

>>5380943
Well this can simply be fixed. What we basically need is a Brutal Doom with 3D models.

>>5380880
>Those doors closing automatically in the first video

>/doom/ is a good genera-

>>5380341
>[2-18] SIGIL delayed until April

TO THE FUCKING SURPRISE OF NO ONE

We, are the three days of Jesus' Resurrection.
New Boss:
The Three days.

>>5381000
Nice trips
Sure, /doom/ has it's off days, but that doesn't stop it from being a great general

>>5381034
id say its pretty great in general

can anybody post the commands I need to put on the autoexec for quake?

Cannibal rights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuJnIJHgQ44

>>5381067
install quakespasm

This will ruin me

>With the release of the third episode of Back To Saturn X, we hope that this will hoist Guided By Voices into the Doom Canon and make it the official band of Doom, replacing Pantera.

How can one dev be so based? I am astruck with all this baseness!

Hey russkies. Can you translate me what's written on this pic?

>>5381126
>"A gamedev cares about gays and I'll take the butthurt to the grave."

>>5380337
>"No you won't!"

>>5381073
I meant the console commands anon

>>5381106
I like that in the tally screen music, you can hear a bit of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sk5yYNngy4 at some point.

>>5381098
Sunder sure is giving me huge Deus Vult II vibes with that tall texture.

>>5381013
Some seem genuinely shocked that a thing Romero has been in charge of has been delayed.

>>5380341
>SIGIL delayed until April
Eh, oh well. Wasn't really that excited for it, anyway.
If Back to Saturn X Episode 3: Instructions to the Rusty Time Machine came out the same day as SIGIL, I'd sooner play the former.

/doom/ pls remember, even when u hav bad days, Caco will still love u !

>>5381183
>tfw no miniature cacodemon pet

>>5381183
Now I desperately want a caco plushie to hug and cuddle.

>>5381197
We need to create a caco dakimakura
JUst a big ball of a pillow

>>5381216
heh, a round caco bodypillow to cuddle and maybe hump

>>5381216
caco bean bag

>>5381216
>>5381219

>>5381187
>>5381197
there's this
https://www.gamingheads.com/doom-cacodemon-plush.html

>>5381219
DON'T
FUCKING
LEWD
THE CACO
MODS?
M O D S

>>5381216
>Squishable and Zenimax/id will never collab so we won't have a giant round Caco plushie

I'm getting a Doom half-sleeve on my right arm and originally wanted some pixel perfect sprites but that's not gonna work.

It needs to be stylized so I need good art to base it off. Anyone got any recommendations?

>>5381230

These were the original sprites I was looking at

>>5381183
We all love Caco

>>5381225
>yfw there is even a squishable cthulhu
...How the fuck am I going to justify this buy to my girlfriend?

>>5380834
Forced shitty humor, sucks at games

What do you love the most about Doom, /doom/?

>>5380364
guys?
i know you have the memes
hand them over

>>5381287
Its charm.

>>5381287
The monsters' diversity gives them a huge amount of possible gameplay roles in an encounter. Similarly, the the game does hitscan enemies right, unlike the majority of FPS after it. I might be salty about Duke Nukem 3D.

>>5380834
I honestly see him more as a casual outsider fan of classic FPSs, rather than a member of the classic FPS community.

>>5381315
sweden has great monsters diversity

>fire up Doomseeker
>the only populated servers are slaughterfest brutal doom shit
I guess the only way to enjoy that game in multiplayer is to make private servers now

>>5381287
That even after 25 years, the community is still alive and well.

>>5381315
I was actually wondering why I can't get into DN3D despite loving the fuck out of Doom. Those hitscan enemies and slightly "fuck you player" level design was always a turnoff for me.

I never even managed to finish the first episode.

>>5381315
>Spoiler

Build hitscan in general are fucking nasty, it's especially bad when paired up with some other potentially fatal annoyance like the suicide drones in Duke, the hell hounds or choking hands in Blood or the BEES in Shadow warrior.

>>5381221

>>5381348

>>5381339

Try crouching when fighting hitscanners

>>5380398
Doom 64 weapons are much less animated

>>5380834
He considers Plutonia unfair and artificial difficulty because of its high usage of chaingunners and revenants, which I feel is a very narrow-minded view on its gameplay.
Like, Plutonia is definitely harder than Doom 2. Dario Casali even admits that this was on purpose in an interview. But most encounters are perfectly doable with the necessary skills. And its usage of Revenants in particular is actually pretty tame compared to even BTSXE1.

>>5380461
Nope. Vasyan is pure trolling made with the purpose of testing how far we could push it. Turns out really far, as the west is just as full of gullible underage mouthbreathers as our country.

>>5380487
Only time fags get hate when they begin shove their deviance in face of other people. Nobody cares if they don't flaunt it and keep to themselves. West may consider it progressive to be tolerant to things being shoved in their faces. Russians don't. Too bad for them west normalized it for fags to shove things in face of other people.

>>5380514
It's sad when the only time people made use of a new great engine feature is for trolling/lack of taste.
Someone really needs to do PBR for originals. Sadly I cant draw/edit well.


So many people in this thread falling for an obvious bait is staggering. No wonder west hates us so much since you are so ready to rile yourselves up against us (or anyone else really) at the slightest poke. And then you wonder why we make fun of you.

image md5: //7Qh3AAItPnWVgyaVwB5FA==/

report, filter and hide

>>5380697
press q button

>>5380764
>perfect conversion of the pc classic
lol
that's a pretty awesome cover though

>>5380764
When are we getting Yoshi added to Arcane Dimensions?

>>5380631
>>5380595
Digging those pinkies and cybers.

>>5381067
>need
what are you trying to do? you'll need to be more specific

>>5380595
That's some sassy-looking revenant.
It's all cute as fuck, though.

>>5380865
>FIREBLU? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the iwad, localized entirely within your kitchen?

>>5381413
Yes!

>>5381414
...May I see it?

>>5381417
Yes!

>>5381171
Blame his publisher this time.

>>5381315
Protip, pop in and out of cover and use pipebombs to bounce around corners.

>>5381363
That only works in Blood, the Duke and Shadow Warrior AI doesn't really care if you crouch or not.

>>5381420

>>5381232
remember that the screen mode doom uses (VGA mode 13h) has pixels 20% taller than they are wide

>>5381367
But that's only for the shotguns.

>>5381034
>it's off days
every thread has drama and shitflinging.

i added another tyrant to the list, the less known T-092 who has a female appearance and a claw with electricity because why-the-fuck-not capcom logic i guess
now up next is the big fuck Nemesis

>>5381453
The shotguns were basically the only weapons in doom that had a decent amount of animation.

>>5381013
>>5381171
>>5381421
I feel like I knew this would happen because they didnt have a picture of the Romero Head on spike fugure. I still want that alone, hope they dont get too pricey over the years

*figure
excuse me

there's no one left to tell how much i love the quake waifus

>>5381456
You say tomayto
I say tomahto.

>>5381496
I'm here.
Tell me about Quake waifus.

>>5381505
i don't approve of a lot of things quake champs did, but i'm afraid it's going to die for good before we see hunter's return

>>5381507
Honestly, I would rather see Crash make a comeback. I dunno, what her gimmick will supposed to be, but it'll be cool. That or Athena/Major from Quake 2. I guess Nyx took over as the new Mynx.
Fuck you, she's the main character of Q2. Bitterman wasn't even in Q2.

>>5381513
Athena is already in the game, though. I think I'm most disappointed though that Galena is gonna be wasted on a soon to be dead multiplayer only game with shitty Russian devs instead of a proper Q1/Hexenlike remakeboot mashup.

>>5381505
>>5381505
GL is top tier Quake Waifu.
Ting
ting-ting
ting
BOOM
Ksh-kt-kt-tlk

>>5381516
Pic related. i miss /arena/

>>5381521
>that one music track that has a slightly muffled grenade TING TING TING in the background
TRENT U FUCK

they should just ban all russian ips from /vr/
they have their own cp infested chan anyway

>>5381542
You mean australian IPs? >>5380774

In any case. Fuck you, you racist cunt.

>>5381542
The obvious solution is to coax Hiro into openly supporting gay rights and watch the Russians remove themselves

>>5381546
>waaah ur waycisss
lol so you can dish it out but can't take it? typical fucking slav pussy

>>5381551
how's that tranny cock feels on your boipussy cowboy?

So I was playing around with GMOTA in preparation for the next big update when I had a sort of stupid thought/idea: Is there some way to disable the sword return timer, even if temporality beyond just cracking your knuckles every 15 seconds? I ask because I'm a big fan of the stuns and spin for crowd control, but I tend to lose track of the bar and suddenly have a sword when I'm in the middle of a hoard of imps. I just think some way of freezing it outright by holding reload with firsts out or something would be a nice addition for us who like to fist the demons to death

>>5381556
I've thought about that. Someway to sheathe the sword and go full on punch mode. Though I don't want to add more buttons.

>>5381558
There's already a function in GMOTA for holding to throw the sword vs pressing to throw a subweapon, just do something similar to that

>>5381550
You mean the existence of the /lgbt/, /y/ and /u/ boards?

>>5381529
Huh. I could've sworn she was a Caucasian. She's the one with the camo, right - I'm not crazy? I think I had her toy somewhere.

No matter - is Champions actually out yet? I kinda want to play it for old Q]|[A times sake, to see what the fuss is all about, but I think I will be mighty disappointed.

>>5381561
I actually trashed that, now holding the subweapon button constantly throws subweapons and holding the sword attack button readies a sword throw.

>>5381570
The confusion comes because that toy- which was labeled Jungle Marine Athena- was Caucasian, but the player model in Quake 2 named Athena was always black. The toy was largely based on the 'Jungle' model and just given a second name. Her other Q:C outfits reference the marine armor from Q4 and ET:QW. subscribe for more Quake Waifu facts

>is Champions actually out yet?
It's been out as in free to play for quite some time now but the heyday has sort of passed and it's pretty clearly in maintenance mode now. You'll probably be disappointed now, but the core gameplay is still solid- when the awful engine isn't fucking everything up.

At the very least, the waifus are cute, if not as overly curvy as Steed and Cloud's original incarnations.

>>5381573
>subscribe for more Quake Waifu facts
Is Crash canon and single? Asking for a friend.

>>5381572
Just make it so pressing altfire while you hold the sword ready for throw sheathes it instead.
After that holding the primary and then tapping secondary unsheathes it again.

>>5381580
That's a little bit awkward seeing as you can't arm a sword throw without a scroll, and holding primary when you have your fists ready will immediately perform a lariat as long as you have the mana for it.
I really can't think of an elegant way to do this, and I'm against adding more buttons.

>>5381567
Too insular

>>5381578
I don't see any reason she wouldn't be canon; Q3A is a what-if scenario but the characters themselves presumably exist(ed) outside the Arena, given the presence of Ranger, Doomguy, Bitterman, and so on. Doom '16 and so on haven't explicitly retconned her, but she hasn't appeared in any media other than Q3/QL so who knows? A similar question is that given she's specified as being Doom(guy)'s commanding officer, was she just one of many, or is she the one he got sent to Mars for assaulting?

>and single?
Loneliness is curable. Start by turning the computer off.

>>5381587
Don't be so anti-waifuist.

>>5381621
That's one of the random chat lines bots in Q3A can use, IIRC. Hunter is the best waifu anyway.

Speaking of Q3 and Champions,I feel sad for the latter. There's clearly a lot of dedication for the game when it comes to designs, maps and soundtrack but it doesn't seem they have a clever idea on what is their target audience.
It tries to appeal to everyone but it doesn't get enough popularity.

Hell there's a goddamn comic book series too and the art is nice, the lore is pretty consistent overall.

The part that irks me the most is:you have motherfucking BJ Blazkowicz, Quake Ranger and Doomguy, all in one game and don't focus on this factor which will increase the game popularity even more.

It's such a missed opportunity.

I think it's still funny that Bullfrog themselves gave the possibility to download the Horned Reaper from Dungeon Keeper for Quake 3.

>>5380337
Could Duke Nukem and Heretic have worked on the 3DO?

>>5381647
Yeah, art and sound wise it's pretty damn good- I don't like that it isn't quite as outwardly gory and wet on the playermodels as Q3 especially for returning characters like Anarki and Slash, but it's meant to carry the Q1 style instead which the Russkie artists did a good job of both map and player wise, with oodles of shout-outs to older games and such in the skins and lore and even the maps. The unfortunate part is the comics sold so poorly they combined the last two, they chose some of the less interesting characters (Visor being a cheeki breeki murderhobo instead of, say, Galena's whack-ass Elder God-worship chosen-one servant backstory), and of course having a short comic series only makes people draw even more (generally incorrect) parallels to Overwatch, because Overwatch invented comics, just like it invented player classes with deployable turrets.

The engine isn't good enough to support the gameplay and they can't rely on the waifu-love-porn-SFM audience for advertising because they don't have the budget to commission it all themselves like some suspect Blizzard does, and Joe Normie only wants his perfect blonde healer mommy or 'Just like me!!!!' anime gamer gurl in a mech, not a heroin-addicted derby girl with an Outer God prodding at her brain or a scarred to shit, possibly-undead butch warrior lady whose only sex appeal comes from if you're the type of person who jacked off to Vasquez in Aliens and Lt. Yar in Star Trek.

>The part that irks me the most is:you have motherfucking BJ Blazkowicz, Quake Ranger and Doomguy, all in one game and don't focus on this factor which will increase the game popularity even more.
Unfortunately, most of the people playing FPSs now only know Doom Slayer (not Doomguy in name) out of those three; BJ as a secondary if they've played the newer Wolfensteins (as awful as New Colossus is) and Ranger is still a literal who.

>>5381665
Heretic probably, given there was already a Doom port
Duke Nukem would be harder, it'd have to be even shittier than Doom 3DO to work out

>>5381572
>>5381582
Even with the changed way you use subweapons (Which imo I don't know why you would want to change that), you still have things programmed in that say "If pressed do x if held do y". I'm no doom mod maker, but I don't see how you can't apply that kind of function to the reload key in fist mode to go back and forth into a fisticuff mode. But that's just my opinion, you do you man.

So I've been playing Doom 1 and 2 an absolute fuck ton and its been almost therapeutic coming off a shitty break up. I feel like I've gotten a pretty good grasps of the basics so far circle strafing and what not but are there any good guides out there that cover anything I might be missing?

>>5381704
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>>5381685
I could, but I'm still not how intuitive that would be for the player.
and I changed it because it makes more sense to bind throwing the sword to the sword button, it was a little cumbersome that subweapons and a sword action shared the same button like that

>>5381649

>>5381665
The original Duke Nukem sidescroller? Yes, totally.
But seriously, Duke 3D I think would be pretty hefty for the thing, so you might have to trim it a good bit, so maybe.

Heretic could probably be done, with some concessions. Mind that the port of Doom was shit because it was a complete rushjob done basically by one programmer, and doesn't really tell us how well a game like it really could have run, if it had been made by a real dev team under a normal time frame.

>>5381287
The fact, that even thought the gameplay is still fun today, there is always something more behind the gameplay. The fact, Doom couldn't be called just a game, but more like a hobby. There is always new great content coming every year, it's easy and fun to make own content, and we have one best video game communities where we can talk about this new coming content and present this our own content to. Content never ends, and neither does the discussion. No other game has given something like this to me.

This is also why new Dooms couldn't replace the old ones. How could single game compete with a hobby? Hell I'll eventually play Doom Eternal and enjoy the shit out of it, but it won't ever replace the original Dooms, and that's fine by me since I would never want that.

>>5381546
You slavs are white. No racism here.

>>5381529
What a flat board.

>>5381881
yeah but she's got hips for days and nice arms and pits

>>5380530

doom was never good
until Alien Vendetta

>>5381496
>>5381505
I want Crash back

I have a nasty habit of blowing myself up with rocket launcher type weapons
Also as much as I love cacodemons, their dead bodies are big and block my view sometimes which is annoying

>>5381647
>BJ Blazkowicz, Quake Ranger and Doomguy, all in one game and don't focus on this factor which will increase the game popularity even more.
This
The game could have succeeded on fanservice and they didn't even pointed that out
It's a literal milestone having the id trio together

>>5380880
>Superevenant Chalmers

>>5381881
Flat can be nice.

>>5381704
berserk lasts for an entire level and isn't timed

>>5380337
How do we get Romero back into the (Monster) closet?

>superarchnant

>>5381287
I like how doomy it is.

>>5381704
>Green Armor gives you 100pts of armor
>it absorbs 33% damage taken
>you can only pick up a Green Armor if your armor points are lower than 100pts
>Blue Armor gives you 200pts of armor
>it absorbs 50% damage taken
>you can only pick up a Blue Armor if your armor points are lower than 200pts
>it is possible to pick up a Green Armor while still having 99pts or less of Blue Armor
>if you do this, you get 100pts armor, BUT you LOSE the 50% damage absorption that Blue Armor gives you, and you only get the 33% damage absorption of Green Armor
>consider the value of your armors more in the future
This is a tidbit that's never telegraphed to the player in the game, so it's good to keep this in mind.

can you play Death Wish with Nblood?

>>5381967
That's b- cup. Not quite flat.

BDlite is pretty alright, perhaps taking out the imp leap would be a big improvement, I was playing bloodstain and unless you use your fists the imp closet traps become instadeath

>>5382027
Armor bonus doesn't affect saving percentage, btw, it just adds points, regardless of if what you're wearing is green or blue.

>>5382040
We can go flatter.

>>5381649
Well they did work on the PS2 port of Q3A.

>>5381529
we used to have an /arena/ general and I fucking MISSED IT? What happened to it?

Sneed

>>5382130
It died 'cause /vg/ was too fast and there wasn't enough left to talk about as people stopped playing and the games grew stale (QL is old as shit and the other games are just as old or older, Q:C is dying and UT4 is dead).

>>5382123
> huge stack of armor bonuses infront of green armor
why even bother

>>5382141
Goddamn, just as I was getting into Quake in general. Hopefully it'll come back someday? btw, how does QL stack up to Q3A anyways? Do people still play the former? I can barely find people talking about it today
I mean, as much as I love team class shooters, it gets stale as fuck when those are literally the only kinda games on the market. Well, them and battle royale. Hopefully arena shooters will come back into popularity in time.

>>5382159
It might come back temporarily if the March update does anything but other than that, nah, it's deader than disco.
>btw, how does QL stack up to Q3A anyways? Do people still play the former? I can barely find people talking about it today
QL is just Q3A with some network, balance and graphical tweaks and with the SP botmatch tree removed. People don't talk about it because it isn't played much, same as any other arena shooter- except when they try to act like QL is so popular that everyone is still playing it (they're not) and that it has more players than QC (it doesn't) and that a 1:1 remake of it would totally sell like hotcakes (it wouldn't).

>>5382150
That's still extra points of green armor, my man. Bonuses can still build over 100, to 200.

>>5382217
> no armor
> get 50 armor bonuses
> 50 armor
> pick up green armor
> 100 armor
> all those bonuses did absolutely nothing / half of the green armor is wasted

>>5382029
Yes. Theoretically you should be able to play any user mod with NBlood. However the method is different than with BloodGDX or vanilla Blood. You need to rename dw.ini to blood.ini and select the death wish folder as "custom content" when launching NBlood.

>>5382220
Oh, you mean like that. Yeah, that'd be shitty. What map does that?

>>5382193
Eh, fads will be fads. Personally I'm sure that if someone made a modern arena shooter that capitalized on its strengths as well as Quake and UT did, it could be successful. I don't expect the current UT or Q:C to do that, so I'm just sitting here hoping they'll either start working on new sequels entirely or that an indie/unknown studio would make an arena shooter. Instead of chasing the battle royale fad. I'm gonna be waiting a while...

The cyan enemies in CH are kinda cool.
I was surprised by some of them.

>>5382027
It actually took me years to realize, that blue armor reduces more damage than green. For long time I was under impression, that the more you have armor points, the higher is the damage reduction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5DYDMtBtjM
Somebody made this while waiting for Romero to release Sigil. Poor soul.

>>5381409
make it as 1:1 to the dos version
sorry for the late reply

>>5382529
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2310/discussions/0/1621726179575078507/

>>5382529
Not possible due to lighting. Download Mark V instead, it has a software renderer and an option to use the original Quake colormap instead of the smooth shadows that GLQuake ports like QS use.

>>5382552
>>5382578
thanks, aside from those commands on the steam discussion, should I add anything else? also can I use the .vit and .lis files for mark V?

>>5382579
why the fuck are you trying to load non-vanilla vis and lit files if you also want it to look like the dos version

>>5382581
I thought they were vanilla, sorry for being stupid anon

>>5382584
the only vanilla files are the PAK0.pak and PAK1.pak files along with the executable of your choice
0 is shareware, 1 is registered, both make up the full game; config files are autogenerated on first run

>>5382587
oh I see, what about the console commands?

All the fanservice bits on QC make me glad Doom Eternal looks more like Doom.

>>5382612
texture filtering off, particles to square, animations off if you want to be a dork
don't make the water transparent or you'll see shit you're not supposed to, like the healing pool and spawn-o-rama fun pits in sandy's episode

>>5382615
alright

>>5382614
All the fanservice bits in QC make me mad there's no bronze Amazon titties.

>>5381315
Either use cover or strafe fast.

BRING BACK /ARENA/ in >>>/vg/

>>5382642
let what is dead stay dead
it had a good run

Has anyone ever made a BFG tutorial map? I still have trouble understanding how the tracers and shit works.

>>5382649
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0KBAZkPFmI

nope, but there's a handy video

>>5382653
thanks anon

Call of Doom is the best thing to come out of BD style mods.
There is something really satisfying about popping barons on the head with the Vektor

wish the RNG wouldn't be so stingy with some of the weapon drops tho

>>5382653
The original BFG is definitely a product of technical restrictions. Unintuitive but it works. Good that we have the possibilities to code(and maintain - fps-wise) a proper BFG implementation in this day and age.

>>5382653
>>5382671
what other types of BFGs can you guys think of?
ones that aren't the Q2 BFG or an over-glorified rocket launcher (looking at you, Q3)

>>5382686
Multistage charge BFG like Doom 3

peekaboo

>>5382686
The Q2 one is alot like the new one.

>>5382671
looks like a young Filthy Casual

>>5382686
A slow moving ball that zaps everything in its path...preferably with a chain lightning like ability.
Everything else isn't a BFG

>>5382686
The one from dakka where it shoots a bunch of shots that home in on the cursor.
The one from babel where it shoots homing missiles sized to kill everything onscreen if it can

>>5382686
I can't think of much else that wouldn't totally bring down performance or hilariously break the game balance.

>>5382253
There's been a shit-tonne of arena shooters over the last 20 years, and the thing they have in common is they all follow the same trend of fewer and fewer people being interested. They, like most multiplayer game styles, are borne from a combination of limits in technology and current fashions. Arena shooters will never be as popular as they were when they were the among the few types of FPS possible with the technology of the time.

>>5382734
I don't think Arena Shooters will be the next big thing(tm) again, but I doubt they're gonna go extinct either.
They still have a place in games today. The reason I see from arena shooters isn't that they're arena shooters, but that they all try to reinvent the wheel. Games like QC and many other modern arena shooters try to incorporate elements from other games like custom loadouts, unique character traits, and progression systems, because those work for team shooters and battle royales, but the problem is they just aren't meant for arena shooters. They try to appeal to the new popular games instead of sticking to what made arena shooters so fun to begin with.
And if they do try and stay true to arena shooters, something else typically got in the way. The new UT is dead because they couldn't be assed to develop it themselves, and other arena shooters died either from terrible marketing (I didn't even know Lawbreakers existed until this week), development issues, gameplay issues, or the like. If the new UT had dedicated developers and a big marketing push, I would've loved playing the shit out of it, and I'm sure it would've seen *some* success. Again, maybe not battle royale-tier success, but some.

>>5382653
>>5382649
People still not getting it kinda makes me tempted to edit the vanilla BFG just to make the fucking tracers visible.

>>5382757
>If the new UT had dedicated developers and a big marketing push
Epic pretty much said they're letting it die.

>>5382671
The limitations made it an unusual and interesting weapon. At a glance, a layman may just think it's generic splashdamage, but playing around, you quickly realize it has a very particular behavior, one which actually has a lot of tactical applications.

>>5382760
that's, uh, what "if" means, yes.

>>5382107
I had the same problem with the massive imp trap in that one level of Ancient Ayylmaos. They were able to close the distance far more quickly than was intended.

>>5382696
Y'know, that's like..one of the very last things I ever found out about Doom 2. I always wondered why that sector lowered. It's cause the upper part of that can raise from another linedef being used, and the lower sector being used as a way to hit the face switch.

That, and maybe Map05's green torch linedef that lowers the sector to the plasma rifle secret.

>>5381235
This

>>5381224

>>5381363
>>5381339
I'm pretty sure crouching to avoid hitscanners is only in blood, hitscanners in Duke nukem can't hit you if you circle strafe. This applies to all hitscanners except the battlelords. I hated duke until I realized this.

>>5381363
Why is barney an enemy?

>>5382861
man I wish I was cool enough to lewd demons and be a Satanist

>>5382878
This kid has never played Barney Doom.

>>5382878
>>5382898
Speedrunners also call one Archvile Barney too.

Barney is a dick.

>>5382734
IMO, the problem is that a lot of modern attempts focus too much on deathmatch and duels, and not enough on team modes such as CTF.
Unfortunately, we're not in the 90's aymore. Unless it's something purely casual like Call of Duty, Deathmatch mode is not really a strong selling point for multiplayer games in this day and age.

>>5382931
if you asked me, an arena shooter today should make all modes playable in both free-for-all and teams in equal part (not focus on one and keep the other an afterthought). Yeah even CTF, make it like that Shine Sprite battle mode in Mario Kart.
People like the ability to play in teams a lot, but making it team-only would drive out the arena shooter fans. You just have to satisfy both.

What's the consensus on Strife Veteran Edition? Worth a buy?

>>5382957
Yeah. Needs to be a balance of the two.

Sector fish

>>5383004

blub blub

>>5383004
>OOH BOY, HERE WE FUCKING GO

>>5383004
I hate it.

>>5383004
I LOVE it!

Finally decided to do Doom episodes 1-3 with a pistol start on UV. Some levels in episode 3 took awhile to get something usable like a zerk pack or a shotgun. How painful will episode 4 be? The only two upsides I can see is that I won't needlessly restrict myself on ammo during the levels since I can't carry them forward and that I will start Perfect Hatred with full health.

>>5383004
I'm impressed that got made with only stock textures.

>>5383004
Cute

My friend gave me his old computer when he built his new one. I'm finally able to play things like Winter's Fury and Diabolus Ex. Eviternity is pretty awesome too. Anything else I should try? Preferably not outright slaughter, though those slaughter maps are often really very pretty to look at. I suck and find them stressful.

>>5383290
> winter's fury
try s.u.p.e.r. natural, by the same guy
any kind of progress update fucking when

>>5383004
This looks like one of them singing fishes that you hang on the wall.

>>5383336
I forgot this even existed.

>>5383343
Don't worry! Be happy!

>>5383343
You were better off not remembering the fucking things.

>>5381363
>Doom 2 is a "doom killer"
I don't think it works this way.

The first time I played Doom was with the Xbox Live Arcade version. Am a massive pleb or is there other Anons?

>>5380364
>>5380505
>>5381294

PLEASE

>>5383372
I have it. But it's NEVER leaving my personal collection.

>>5383362
Given how many platforms Doom has been on, I'm sure there's always going to be someone objectively worse off with their first exposure to the game.

>>5383376
pls

>>5383372
I have it, but I'm already in my pajamas.

>>5383372
Sent :)

>>5383138
>How painful will episode 4 be?
The first time I ever tried to play through Doom without cheating, Perfect Hatred was where my triumphant road ended.

It's been over a year since I last visited this thread. Do you guys sometimes organize some online coop or deathmatch? Literally every single public server I see online has the most cancerous mods and WADs imaginable.

>>5383290
Here's some level packs for GZDoom:
Ultimate Torment And Torture
Ultimate Simplicity
Thunderpeak
Demon Eclipse
Stronghold
Skulldash: Expanded Edition
ZDoom Community Map Project: Take 2
Knee-Deep In ZDoom (some hate this, but I enjoyed it)

>>5383446
Zandronum could use some better servers. I feel like alot of the online servers are run by people with know-how but dont make the servers at their full potential. I tried for like 2 hours trying to get my own coop server to work today and in the end my bud said it is demanding freedoom when its not. Making working servers is too damn hard

>>5383290
>>5383457
>>5380372
Simpsons Doom. Love that shit

>>5383459
Just use this: https://allfearthesentinel.net/
People criticize them rightly for banning WADs like mooman but other than that, they let you set up a dedicated server extremely easily for free.

>>5380337
Why not put 'DOOM THREAD' in the title people can spot the thread immediately in the catalog?

>>5383336
>>5383343
>>5383348
>>5383351
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHchmWsrfUo
it even fits the thread

>>5383343
>You know ive been working with the government. Right, tone?

>>5383004

>>5382861
Look, I fixed it for you.

>>5383351
Fish sentinels rule, fuck you.

>>5383138
Ep4 is a considerable step up in difficulty, for the first couple of levels. Then it ramps down some.

Is there a mod that adds the SSG and Doom 2 enemies to Doom 1?

>>5383528
Are those people in the same league as furries? Asking for a friend.

>>5383553
No. No, not at all. Those are two completely different things. Honest. Seriously.
Someone post cute rule 63 Cyberdemon pics. For a friend.

>>5383553
>>5383561
What a coincidence, I also have a friend who wants pics of lewd demons!

>>5383561
>Cute
>Rule63
>Cyberdemon

Well looked it up and it's just NSFW and the more safe is just nu-Cyberdemon with tits

>>5383138
Episode 4 doesn't have a single level by the person who made Episode 3's levels.

>>5383615
...It'll do, I guess.
Seriously, fuck Doom for not having any sexy female demon enemies.

>Looks at a badly aligned texture on a wall
>Press "use"
>Nothing happens
>Shoot at it
>Nothing happens
>The mapper legitimately fucked up

>>5383628
>>5383564
>>5383553
>>5383561

Degenerates leave.

>>5383628
>No female enemies
Well, the Summoner from Doom 4 is the most feminine demon so far(I mean you can clearly see the pussy).

But I don't if they would look good. Maybe in Eternal we're going to have female version of more humanoid demons. Just give them tits and slightly wider hips and minor design differences.

That wouldn't even be the first time Id Software made a sexualized enemy. Look at the Iron Maiden from Quake 2

>>5383635
No u

>>5383548
It would have to be random replacements of some monsters and shotguns

>>5380341
SM192 for Quake

http://celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61692

>>5383639
All the joking about sexy demons aside - I am suprised that Id never attempted to add such an obvious enemy like a simple succubus. Make it a squishy controller/commander type of enemy. Maybe something like the Medic from Q2. Or some kind of buffer. The idea is right there.

>>5383635
You do realize we are just joking around?

>>5383653
It needs a really grotesque and outlandish design

>>5383553
They're just monstergirls with emphasis on the monster.

>>5383625
To its detriment desu.

>>5383674
Does she really?

>>5383792
Monster girls always need to be more monster than girls.Screw weebshit.

>>5383792
Yes.
Imagine what would happen otherwise. You might want to get to know her better. You might start to realize that she has feelings too. You might even get to like her. Then you get close - one meeting, than another, it turns into a date. Before you realize, you're in love. And then it is a commited relationship. Afterwards you marry her and she gives birth to your half-demon children. And then you live happily ever after.
Do you imagine Doomguy living such a dreadful existence?

>>5383824
But weebshit girls are actually cute and sexy.

>>5383830
Whatever floats your boat, but these are just anime girls in make up and accessories attached. Not much "monster" about them. Keep them separate from actual monster girls and don't try to mix the two.

>>5383830
They're shit, and so are you.

>>5383835
I'm not mixing them up. Also I like the weird skintones, unusual eyes, and horns (handlebars), yet she's at the same time a beautiful girl.

>>5383828
>Before you realize, you're in love. And then
You die because the succubus succeeded in seducing you and your soul got sucked out

>>5383836
There's nothing wrong with cute anime girls.

>>5383828
That sounds pretty nice.

>>5383839
That hinges on her besting my mojo, which I challenge her to try.

>this entire fucking thread

>>5383841
They're not cute, they look like they have fetal alcohol syndrome.

why are you weebs here again

>>5383862
4chan and weebs go hand in hand

All this talking about monster/demon girls reminded that there is actually one in a Doom game. Vagary from Doom 3. I like this design, not too grotesque or too out of place.

Now I wonder how a demon girl would look like in classic Doom style. Considering Doom monsters looked they came from D&D(Astral dreadnought) and Metal album covers

>>5383862
blame the anime mods

Gimme one or two of those hideous destructor webms

>>5383862
>weebs
>on an anime image board
you don't say

>>5383861
Nah, they're pretty.

>>5383862
>complaining about weebs on 4chan
lmaoing at your life

Was watching someone's playthrough of Doom VFR...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSEsqkjme7o
At 14:46

>>5383873
we really need a mod where she's a follower and we can dress her in costumes we find.