/vr/ - Retro Games

here's the whole thread: https://twitter.com/westernidentity/status/1075258475020779520

>>5381671
Yes this is all true, and jesus was secretly made out of lego and cunningly turned bread into fish by reconfiguring the lego blocks.

>>5381773
As I said in the OP, it looks like a silly joke at first, but when you take a good look at it you realize it's not.

The symbolism is not subtle at all. Every step of the way throughout the game seems to have a quite clear symbolic significance, and most of it dovetails quite explicitly with common masonic themes.

People who believe in this sort of conspiracy nonsense are proven to have low IQs. Sorry you're well below average, OP.

>literal twitter screencap thread
They are shit on /v/, unsurprising they are shit here too.

>>5381780
The patterns here are very, very overt. It is statistically impossible for it all to be coincidental. If intelligence consists in identifying patterns - and that is what IQ tests consist of -, then it is you who are failing to identify the patterns.

>>5381785
You guys are throwing lazy smears at me - "conspiracy nonsense", "low IQ", "literal twitter screencap thread" - and refusing to look at the evidence that is staring you in the face.

I'm sure the pyramid with missing capstone (classic masonic symbol) in pic attached is another mere coincidence.

>>5381797
>in this level there are enemies that are big eyes that watch you. there is also a boss who is a giant eye, to kill him you have to let him watch you and then circumambulate him. circumambulation (walking around something) is a pagan form of worship

This is all just confirmation bias, and most of these so called connections are extremely weak.

>>5381797
I don't give a fuck what kind of point you have, or are trying to make. There's still no reason for fucking twitter screencap threads on /vr/. Go back to /v/ you waste of fucking air.

>>5381810
No. Some of the connections are very strong, indeed undeniable, you have to squint *not* to see them.

Some of the connections are not as overt, that is true, but in light of the strong ones they should not be automatically discarded.

Consider that the game's very *hub world* is quite clearly a masonic temple. Compare the pic in >>5381779, an actual masonic temple, with the screenshot in >>5381672.

The case for the order of the levels mirroring an initiation ritual is also strong. The game really does seem to be structured in that way. In light of this - masonic temple hub world, narrative structured like an initiation ritual -, even the details that migh otherwise have been irrelevant acquire a new (possible) meaning.

Even then, of course, it is quite possible that not all of the connections the guy is drawing are right. Some of them might well be coincidental. On the whole, though, this game is masonic as hell.

Honestly in a way this gives me a new appreciation of the game. There are dark implications here, I suppose, but in a way this is some pretty cool shit.

>>5381797
>pyramid with missing capstone
that's a fucking pedestal you insufferable idiot

>>5381831
It's ok, my friend. I'm immune to your attemps at insulting me.

I suppose you think the image in pic attached is a "pedestal" as well. Hey, we all have our opinions.

>>5381836
looks absolutely fuck all like it, get some fucking help you attention whore

Dude...redpilled.

I don't know why dropping this kind of redpill makes people so irate.

Super Mario Bros 3 already has some weird symbolisms, checkered floors, red curtains and carpets, even the tower of Babel that connects the world to the heavens.
It's all interesting to notice but I doubt Miyamoto and his team were illuminati or freemasons.

>>5381671
Do the Japanese even fucking know what the Freemasons are?

>>5381842
Yes, they fight them using superior shinto magic.

>>5381839
>>5381838
Fucking lol.

I will tell you what you guys are.

You are the kind of guy who walks into his bedroom and his wife is lying naked on the bed and there's a naked dude lying beside her and there's a used condom between them and the first thought that pops into your grease-addled brain is "Easy there buddy. Easy with the confirmation bias. It might all just be a coincidence."

An isolated coincidence or two might be just that. A constellation of coincidences forms a picture. The picture here is crystal clear, it is unmistakable, it should not even need pointing out.

I guess accepting that this kind of thing is real is just tabboo for whatever reason. And normies go haywire when presented with tabboos. They lose all ability to connect the dots.

>>5381853
>mentally ill faggot starts rambling about cuck shit
fuck off

>>5381841
Yeah. You got the checkered floors in the fortresses in SMB3, right? Otherwise I haven't noticed much stuff, but the Tower of Babel thing is a good point.

In Twin Peaks you have the checkered floors too, and the owls as well come to think of it, and I mean the Black Lodge is called the Black Lodge.

Masons are useful idiots for satanists and jews to subvert western institutions and prevent Christianity from conquering the globe (as naturally would have occured numerous times by now).

Many things have overt Masonic imagery because many organizations have Masons operating within them. No shit.

>>5381854
I'm saying it is you who are the cucks. You fucking cuck.

I mean yes, how formidable. One would think that connecting the dots and grasping the big picture would be thing to do in any given situation, right? Using one's damn brain. But for some reason doing this with your beloved babby video game makes you all go apeshit and call me mentally ill. Fucking lol.

>>5381859
>i'm not a cuck i just enjoy posting detailed cuck fantasies in my retarded meth influenced thread
kill yourself incel

>>5381858
Thanks man. It gets tiresome to be called insane by all the anons. Honestly I thought most guys here would find this shit interesting.

>>5381838
Not him but they both do literally look like pyramids with the top missing.

>>5381856
The very title screen of SMB3 starts with a checkered floor and a red curtain.
Twin Peaks' black lodge doesn't actually have checkered floors, but that wavy pattern, still black and white and obviously meant to be a more "trippy" version of masonic temples or rooms. Mark Frost made it no secret that he has investigated about freemasons and their rituals and implemented that in Twin Peaks.
Still, it's better not to read too much into it, I mean, don't start believing Super Mario 64 is actually a freemason tool to turn kids into MK ultra or something like that. Probably the art directors were inspired by occult and magic (not just freemason/illuminati), but it doesn't mean the game is some sort of tool to brainwash kids is what I mean. It's a video game, bro.

>>5381821
The checkerboard floor with the circular symbol in the middle in the middle is the only similarity and strongest connection by far. It doesn't really look all that similar other than those two features, and checkerboard floors were already very common in 3D games at the time.

Considering this shows up at the beginning of the game I'm gonna guess that the twitter fag recognized the slight similarity from a picture he had recently seen then tried to force any other desperate connection he could find throughout the game. He also conveniently omits the first showdown with bowser which must happen before you are able to access the basement.

>>5381864
if that's true then how else do you explain onions boy hipsters?

op so redpilled /vr/ can't take it lmao

>>5381867
I explain it with chemtrails, psyops and web 2.0 bullshit.
Not video games from Japan.

>i'm not the guy who wrote the twitter thread
Sure.
Anyway you're totally right about it, though. Super Mario 64 is a demonic game, and the effects it had on the childhood selves of today's 20-30 something's is unfathomable and could cause dire consequences to the world as they continue to gain influential economic and political positions.

>>5381864
My friend's dad wholeheartedly believes that videogames are a way for the government to desensitize us to violence and make us into unfeeling killing machines.
He also was heavy into PCP and smokes tons of weed and my friend told me of one time his dad was raving about purple gorillas spying on him. But I'm sure there's no connection.

>>5381861
I don't have a cuck fantasy. Rather, I picture men who are afraid of facts as deficient in virility. I am saying that if confronted with your wife's evident infidelity - if you do somehow manage to land a wife -, your first instinct will be to deny what your very eyes are seeing, to think yourself out of the truth using some kind of limp-wristed cuck logic.

The same kind of logic according to which an abundance of extremely overt masonic symbolism littered throughout a game does not a masonic game make. Because, like, I mean seriously? Tinfoil hat much? I mean dude.

>>5381864
>The very title screen of SMB3 starts with a checkered floor and a red curtain.

Oh fuck, forgout about that. Jesus Christ, yeah.

>>5381878
>adult virgin talking about sane men being 'deficient in virility'
ok cuck

>>5381872
video games from japan are more likely than those things. those wacky japs fucking love the occult, they sprinkle that shit in just to give the illusion of depth. remember evangelion

>>5381856 Golly gee anon imagine that, one of the single most common flooring designs ever invented is used occasionally in pop culture. Clearly this goes all the way to the top.

>>5381880
Want to blow your mind even more? Zelda is full of occult and magic symbolism as well.
Remember the owl?
Link's Awakening was actually inspired by Twin Peaks directly.
By the way OP, you might like Shin Megami Tensei if you haven't checked that series already.

>>5381878
Using that same logic I could say you are a gullible fool who could be convinced that cucking would help his relationship.

>>5381886
You sound like someone who doesn't know much.
Evangelion's use of religion isn't nearly as "random" as parroters want to believe. If anything, it's very analogue to the use of religion mixed with sci-fi in Arthur C. Clarke's novels.

>>5381878
that's probably the dumbest shit i've read on this board. The amount of projection is unbearable.

>>5381865
Look, no. I know exactly what kind of trick you are trying to play on your own mind here. I have done it myself when trying to persuade myself that something I knew was true isn't really true, because I didn't want to believe it.

You are trying to say that all the other connections are weak. You are even downplaying the strenght of the "castle interior - masonic lodge" connection, which is indeed the strongest connection, so that all the other quite-strong-but-not-as-strong connections may seem weaker in your mind as well, so that the whole constellation of connections and the big picture which emerges from them may be drowned out of your consciousness and be again replaced by that comforting and maternal "common sense" according to which such things simply do not exist. Freemason shit in my Mario game? Haha get out of here. Just let me play my babby games in peace.

You would make a bad detective. Being rigorous doesn't mean "ruling out hypotheses which do not fit a normie's retarded criterion of plausibility", it means looking for the truth not matter how uncomfortable it makes you feel.

i wonder if the dOPe even knows what freemasonry actually is

>>5381889
Masonic halls also have sky and clouds painted on the walls and an occultic sun symbol in the middle of floor, just like you have in the SM64 castle, but I'm sure those things are mere coincidences too.

>>5381904
no they don't, look, here's some evidence posted by.. uhh... YOU, you fucking moron >>5381779

>>5381904
>Masonic halls also have sky and clouds painted on the walls
do you have pics of this?

>>5381898
Your 'evidence' is entirely based on the first few mins of the game lol, you absolute moron, you fool.

>>5381840
>redpill.
>this trash.

>>5381902
It's a philantropic fraternity where powerful men discuss music and physics and play pool. It has nothing to do with creepy initiations, occult rituals and chanting wicked things in the woods.

This thread would be more interesting if we just post about games with occult symbolism rather than take OP seriously. He's either baiting or genuinely naive, or just found out about occult today and is all excited about it.
Mario games aren't made by illuminati, but yes they do have some notorious visual elements.

>>5381907
*This* masonic hall does not feature *one* of the elements I mentioned (the painted walls representing heaven), but it does feature the other two.

But the lodge in pic attached does feature walls and ceiling presumably representing the skies, as do many other lodges.

>>5381921
>powerful
>physics
I call bullshit, my braindead, borderline retarded half-spic friend is a member.

>>5381926
>women and kids
How weird.
Anyway, they aren't on the walls like on SM64. It doesn't seem to be a common thing in masonic halls.
SM64's walls remind me more of playgrounds.

>>5381894
"There are a lot of giant robot shows in Japan, and we did want our story to have a religious theme to help distinguish us. Because Christianity is an uncommon religion in Japan we thought it would be mysterious. None of the staff who worked on Eva are Christians. There is no actual Christian meaning to the show, we just thought the visual symbols of Christianity look cool. If we had known the show would get distributed in the US and Europe we might have rethought that choice."

faggot

>>5381671
>the castle does look exactly like a masonic hall
Only in the sense that both use renaissance style architecture. You gotta remember that the freemasons were initially just a union of actual stonemasons when they started, so the symbolic nature of the architecture in freemasonry is more just preexisting styles being turned into symbols on account of it being something universally familiar to everybody in the order, thus making it an effective way to communicate ideals. Same thing with how trees are a universal symbol in paganism even though there's nothing inherently pagan about a tree.

>>5381672
Same thing can be used to explain the floor here. Checkerboard tiles and suns were really well liked design during the renaissance architectural boom, largely because it was based heavily on Greco-Roman styles. Checkers are just a neat pattern that creates contrast and the sun is an ancient symbol that's been used by countless civilizations since the beginning of history. In European symbolism it's generally representative of enlightenment which is why it features so heavily in churches and castles/palaces (monarchs were considered holier and more enlightened than the average population). The three layers could just as easily be explained as game design since physical changes in environment are one of the most ubiquitous ways to make the player feel a sense of progress, which is the same reason it's used in Masonic symbolism.

>>5381674
The game is based on collecting stars. That's why the coins have stars on them.

>>5381678
>>5381678
Climbing a mountain and finding a challenge followed by something of value at the top is an archetypal story that precedes written history. Every culture tells the story because it resonates with our fundamental human subconscious. It's the same as the interior of the castle in that it could just as easily be explained as game design.

>>5381671
>masonic
Well duh, Mario is all about bricks and blocks.

>>5381797
> It is statistically impossible for it all to be coincidental

It really isn't. In fact this is exactly what a coincidence is. The stars for example are a common theme in Mario and have always had five points. To which you are likely to yell "conspiracy!!" but the reality is that there aren't a lot of choices for star design. Four is seen as a square, 6 would lead to other conspiracies about Jews and the Merkaba and 7 and 8 start to took busy and non-iconic as a star. I could almost as easily draw similar conculsions about anything because the world is super complex and coincidences pop up all over the place.

>>5381932
Yes, the painted walls in sky colours thing is not so common. I looked for "masonic lodges" on Google Images and the pictures that turned up didn't feature them. But when I look for "loja maçônica" a few pictures of the kind turn up. I'm Brazilian, I was aware of this feature of Brazilian lodges, so when I saw the guy's thread on twitter it rung a bell.

It has mostly to do with Heaven and Hell symbology. You have the Lava Level in the basement in SM64 and then you have the Sky levels in the upper floors, and again, fucking hell, the fucking Occult Sun symbol in the middle of the floor and the checkered tiles and the red carpets and the rest of it.

>>5381875
I'm pretty sure that's only Fortnite and only works on zoomers
>>5381902
do you?
love when disposable pawns come in and try to lecture everybody else about how enlightened they are
it's like somebody who signed up to Scientology because they promised to help treat his drug addiction going "nobody in Scientology believes in Xenu lol"
Xenu is fucking batshit and you only learn about him at OT III, ranks in that cult go all the way to OT VIII
now imagine how far the hidden knowledge extends in a cult that has existed for far, far longer than Scientology
you're just being kept in the dark like the follower you are
>>5381856
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114057482
pic related?

>>5381935
Yeah yeah I've read all those PR interviews they gave.
Still doesn't change the fact Anno is heavily influenced by Clarke's literature, and Clarke also mixes religion with sci-fi.
I'm not saying Evangelion is about christianity, but simpletons like you who go around parroting that "hurr durr eva is shallow, the religion thing is just to be cool" just gets tiring after a while. Yes, the Gainax guys said those things in interviews. Doesn't change the fact Anno still knows more about religion and occult than the average westerners. How many westerners do you know that are aware of Lilith's apocryphal relationship with Adam? Anno did his home work, believe it or not.

This thread theme would be more appreciated on /x/. It had some good threads on symbolism on mass media some months ago.

>>5381779
>>5381672
Those aren't the same symbol on the floor though. You go to lengths to point out how important the number of points stars have when it supports your hypothesis and then completely ignore it when it doesn't. You're failing even the most basic levels of forming a theory that holds water.

>>5381937
You pedantic faggot.

The Renaissance and the Enlightenment were teeming with Occultism and Secret Society shit. Anyway the castles actual artchitecture is quite unremarkable; we're talking about the symbols.

The game is based on collecting five-pointed stars, a common occult symbol. Not just "stars"; five-pointed stars.

>Climbing a mountain and finding a challenge followed by something of value at the top is an archetypal story that precedes written history.

No, you Jordan-Peterson-dick-sucking faggot. "Climbing a mountain in a very specific circular fashion in order to face a very specifically regal character" is a specifically occult thing and not just some vague immemorial archetypal bullshit. Dilluting the specifics in order to make them fit your definitions is bad thinking.

>>5381952
no shit you sperg

>>5381949
On the play, the flute (and the bells) has properties to protect and guide both protagonists. The premise is if one pass the trials, they would have their wife. Papageno fails the trials, but got the reward anyway.

You could think the castles as trials and the flute as a way to skip them.

>>5381960
>No, you Jordan-Peterson-dick-sucking faggot. "Climbing a mountain in a very specific circular fashion in order to face a very specifically regal character" is a specifically occult thing and not just some vague immemorial archetypal bullshit. Dilluting the specifics in order to make them fit your definitions is bad thinking.
same desu

>>5381945
You're a faggot who is incapable of noticing significant details and calculating the propability of their occurrence.

I am perfectly fucking aware that we humans are capable of seeing dots where there are no dots and joining the non-existent dots and thereby weaving paranoid theories with no basis on reality.

If you want to sound really fucking sexy about this you can use some banal academic words like "confirmation bias" and "falsifiability", which will lend more grativas and credibility to your case as you dismiss the obvious evidence and call it "common sense".

>>5381949
>https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=114057482

Haha yeah damn, the magic flute connection is a good one.

>>5381947
>You have the Lava Level in the basement in SM64 and then you have the Sky levels in the upper floors

Yeah because it would be clearly weird if that was reversed bearing in mind that in the real world, we have lava under the Earth and sky above it.

Same with the sunburst pattern on the floor. The sun is a common symbol used by many people and cultures because it's the source of life and power for us. Masons using it as a symbol doesn't preclude others from doing so separately. And if it actually was the same, it would be the same but it's clearly different.

>>5381959
The symbol is incredibly fucking similar. It is clearly a sun symbol in both cases. It does not have to be exactly alike in order for the similarity to be significant. That's autistic.

>>5381978
yeah but that black and white checkerboard tho

>>5381960
>Climbing a mountain in a very specific circular fashion in order to face a very specifically regal character" is a specifically occult thing
So why does it appear in everything from the bible to native American myths? All this stuff is super broad and could mean anything if you feel like interpreting it. Either the very fabric of human civilization is occult or they're just commonly used themes because we like them for some reason.

I'm done with this thread.

You're all faggots, cucks and retards for not seeing what is plain as day.

I know I write like a rambling lunatic but this shit is all true.

I'm sorry for losing my temper a bit. Have a good day everyone.

>>5381972
>You're a faggot
>If you want to sound really fucking sexy about this you can use some banal academic words like "confirmation bias"

God forbid I looked at what you had displayed and gave you a serious critique of it. You don't even know how to discuss something without immediately resorting to swearing like a 12 year old. Sorry for giving you the time of day, enjoy your brain melt and inevitable flat earth theories to come.

>>5381983
You have a good day too, brazilbro. I thought your thread was interesting which is why I chimed in.

>>5381984
Like I said, I'm sorry. You're a good guy. I lost my patience as the thread went on. Have a good day man.

>>5381979
When you're talking about sybolism things like points are super important. What you're looking at is coincidence. It's possible the devs in looking at castles to base this castle off inadvertently copied some masonic architecture tropes, but they got the details all wrong which is a pretty plain indicator it's not purposefully hidden meanings.

>>5381983
bitch I literally agreed with you and made a connection you didn't think of

>>5381980
doo doo doododoodo doo doo doo doo

>>5381983
you should go to /x/ it really is an interesting topic and people shouldn't have jumped down your throat for it.

>>5381991
I don't think you're a bad guy necessarily but I don't agree with this at all and you've proven you're incapable of looking at it critically. This is the essence of coincidence. Please think harder next time you encounter one of these.

>>5381994
funny

The checkerboard is the simplest interesting pattern in computer graphics. Think of the classic raytracing demo. It's not Masonic, it's just something visually interesting and very easy to render.

As if Japs give a fuck about Freemasonry. it a cute little theory though

>>5381671
>owen cyclops
Isn't this guy retarded?

>>5382007
Checkerboards are used in these early examples because they are easy to generate BUT NOT easy to render, they put your renderer to the test. They are there to see how the renderer handles perspective, AA, anisotropy

i give you two timecubes out of four

Holy shit this is actually pretty damn interesting. idk why people are having such a fit over this, the twitter thread makes a pretty good point, and it doesn't seem like it's all coincidence. Now, I don't think this is any sort of ritual or brainwashing, rather maybe some of the creators are freemasons and were just using the mason imagery as an inspiration. When you have to develop a concept from zero, it's often useful to use something as a basis from which to part, like an underlying theme. So maybe here they decided to go with a freemason theme. Why would that be so unlikely?

I think what turns people away from this idea is the suggestion that this is some kind of ritual nonsense. As if this would have any lasting effect on anyone playing the game. I think it's just a theme they went with for some reason or another.

>>5382215
The discussion is stifled because the op takes it too seriously and got triggered whenever someone put up an objection and spent numerous posts ranting about how they are cucks or faggots rather than calmly address them

>>5382229
yeah OP was being way too autistic about this. Shame, it's really an amazing interpretation of the game.

>>5382215
It's very clearly coincidence, that's what coincidences are. The devs no doubt looked at photos of castles as reference some of the common features of which are masonic by tradition. People seem to have lost sight of what a coincidence even is.

>>5381859
You're probably the type of guy that thinks Taco Bell doing a commercial saying they are part of the illuminati is proof that they are instead of just being a joke.

Why do conspiracy theorists think that the people allegedly committing these conspiracies leave constant evidence of them? Like they are the fucking riddler from batman and are psychologically compelled to leave evidence to find?

If I were going to commit so grand global scheme, I wouldn't leave clues everywhere I went

>>5381671
>i'm not the guy who wrote the twitter thread. i'm just batshit crazy

>>5382327
they can leave clues behind wherever they go precisely because of your reaction and the reactions of the people earlier in the thread. no one cares about this sort of thing and when the few that do talk about it they are immediately called schizophrenic and ridiculed.

>>5382327
>Why do conspiracy theorists think that the people allegedly committing these conspiracies leave constant evidence of them?
Gotta give those morons something to present to more intelligent individuals so they can think it's the truuuuth! I'd say let them be, that way others can at least have a laugh here.

>>5381671
let's say this is true: fucking what does it even matter? does it damage you in any way to consume it or perceive it?

that's a perfectly great game. on top of that, you'd have to take all stages of this game into consideration if you gonna go by mathematical evidence and statistics and then you'll realize you don't have much to work with at all.

>>5381886
>more likely than psyops
You realize the CIA has been doing psyops for at least 65 years right? You know theyve declassified some mockingbird documents, and it's now "historical conspiracy" rather than "conspiracy theory" when we talk about the psyops from the 50s and 60s? You think that shit just magically stopped, or is it more likely they just don't declassify or admit to that shit?

>twitter screencap
>dumb /x/ bullshit
>attention whoring
>reddit spacing
A good thread died for this.

>>5381797
>statistically impossible
Please show your work, anon

>>5381939
underrated post

>>5381945
I'm sure i don't agree with whatever the OPs point is, but this sort of thing isn't just "random coincidence". Archetypal and common symbols and design happen both unintentionally and intentionally because these things are memetic.

>>5382712
nah, a 'sm64 is overrated' thread died.

I haven't read the twitter thing yet, I will because it's at least interesting though I imagine it has to stretch a lot. We will see.

I did want to say that occult symbolism is VERY common in games. It's exotic, mysterious, and seems larger than life. Basically it's a conduit to add more make believe that could be believable.

Even symbols from judaism and christianity were in a lot of early japanese games, not for any meaningful reason, just they were interesting symbols, kind of like how we had yin yang symbols on our fucking pogs in the 90s.

>>5382680
You're right. It doesn't matter.

I didn't originally mean to be so adamant about this. I think this silly sentence I'm using as a nickname makes me look like a proselytizing fanatic, but the truth is I thought "Name" referred to the thread title. Whoops.

And I tend to get angry when normies start casually dismissing my (((red pills))). It has happened before.

I mean I'm still right. This kind of occult symbolism mindfuckery is very common in other media, too: movies, TV shows, Western pop music, K-pop. The Freemasons have owned the entertainment industry for a long time. There is a rumour that Iwata was killed by Freemasons, which sounds laughable and retarded, but who knows? There are write-ups out there about how Majora's Mask is a thoroughly masonic game. I'm sure this stuff is also present in other games.

In a way this stuff increased my appreciation for SM64. It's quite... elegant how they weaved all this stuff into the game. The narrative structure as initiation ritual is a very interesting idea. It's a bit dark, of course... which in a way is exciting. I have a wary fascination with masonic lodges.

These people have some occult-related reason for putting their symbols all over media. But is your soul at hazard for playing the game? Probably not.

Anyone else disappointed by the lack of bosses? It starts off quite promising, with King Bobomb and King Whomp in the first 2 levels, but after that there's only a select few levels with a boss. Stuff like Tick Tock Clock, Rainbow Ride, Tiny Huge Island, Tall Tall Mountain, Wet Dry World, etc, don't have anything.

>>5382739
use a trip so I can filter you please. Thanks.

>>5382713
>>5382717
I will try not to get lured into another row of heated arguments, but, to stick to the strongest connection in the guy's thread:

An occultic sun symbol within a checkerboard pattern floor is a common feature of masonic lodges, and I very much doubt that one will find it in any other kind of temple. Checkerboard floors are common and the sun is indeed a universal, immemorial and archetypal symbol, but this very specific combination of pattern and symbol is quite specifically masonic.

Again, this pattern is found in the center of the very first room of the building one enters in the beginning of the game, the building that will serve as a hub-world connecting all the stages throughout the game.

So you get a very overt masonic symbol in the most important location of the game. To extrapolate from this that all the other quite curious coincidences throughout the game might not be coincidental... I mean the thing is at least within the realm of possibility. Will you guys at least admit this much?

>>5382741
Suck my dick.

>>5382762

Guessing OP is also a flat-earther and believes in the inherent superiority of one race to another. Sage and reported. Don't encourage the type of people that make these threads otherwise the quality of the board will decline.

>>5382762
Hey, that faggot your read on twitter is a retard who spent time smoking weed and doing drugs since he was 13 only to stop in his 20s. You can read all about it on his twitter, but I don't feel like looking for it in the sea of his Christian Joe Rogan tier tweet threads that have over a hundred posts each. I consider this guy pretty much mentally infirm. It's NRX bullshit, ideological garbage that courts the dissident right circles but never calls out the jew. Faggots that won't call out tranny shit properly, but whine about "THESE PEOPLE LITERALLY BEING DEMONS" and making everyone look fucking unreasonable. Free Masonry is just a cover for jews and their shabbos goyim.

In one of his twitter posts this guy said that trannies and homosexuals were like hostile fey and fairies. If you want something to live by try fucking Integralism, something authetic to your BR country.

>>5382739
Look, I studied this things a long time ago(with my father). This is not freemasonry, this is alchemy. I think this is not an evil thing from nintendo(or miyamoto) but i don't know why they are doing this(in Zelda as well).
I know you have good intentions but alchemy are not for everyone and people will not understand the symbols, simply because they can't. Like Plato said "if you don't know geometry don't enter".
If you want we can talk on telegram or something like that...

>>5382740
>Tiny Huge Island

>>5382820
There's nothing wrong with this thread, it actually has some vaguely interesting points regardless of OP. Your lame attempt at dismissing what you don't like by equating it with "lol flat earth" is reddit tier faggotry.

>>5382739
Honestly I wish this were true dude. It would be preferable to the reality of total cessation of consciousness after death. Maybe conspiracy theories give people hope the same way religion does.

>>5381858
>Masons are useful idiots for satanists and jews
you mean't to say catholics, right?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

>>5382695

what does it all mean? are video games an effort to subliminally brainwash us? to make us docile, passive, and lazy? what am I supposed to take from this? is nintendo a part of some grand conspiracy? this is all admittedly kind of weird, strange, and spooky. and while i dont really play this game much anymore it makes me think. it makes me wonder if i can even enjoy anything anymore...

i swear a person cant enjoy anything without it being revealed to be some illuminati free mason thing.

>>5382927
Is it really reality?

>>5382759
That's all well and good, but are we supposed to simply ignore your subhuman intellect? I mean you are a total fucking retard, after all. How do we trust anything you say when you have the mental acuity of a fruit fly? I mean you're a real drooling neanderthal. You are the missing link scientists have been searching for. I suppose it is quite the occasion when the common ancestor between man and ape is shitposting on /v/, but even then it would be foolish to even humor your asinine bullshit for laughs. You have mental health issues unrelated to your stupidity, that much is evident. I'd suggest you fuck off back to whatever echo chamber you crawled out of, where your equally retarded circle jerking buddies can suck each other off for upvotes and refrain from ever tainting this place with your vile presence again. That's right, you're too disgusting even for this shit hole of a site.

>>5382869
There's everything wrong with this thread and your shit's all retarded.

>>5381858
>prevent Christianity from conquering the globe
Universalism is gay. You're no different than the jews.

>>5381874
>Super Mario 64 is a demonic game
how? im legitimately curious

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apophenia

>>5383006
Fucking lol. This reads like pasta. I seem to have triggered you something fierce.

Anyway, whatever. There is nothing very implausible about what I'm arguing. Like I said, there is a constellation of evidence here and when you join the dots a big picture emerges. The masonic/esoteric/alchemic "undertones" (to put it mildly) in SM64 are quite clear.

Likewise, if you take a step back and analyze other popular works - particularly movies, TV shows and music videos -, you will again be presented with a constellation of facts: a wide number of popular works all of them rife with the same kind of occultic imagery. And again a big picture emerges if you join the dots: popular media does seem to be controlled by these benighted Secret Societies, as wild as that sounds.

It's a simple matter of pattern recognition. This in fact is what is tested in IQ tests: one's ability to recognize patterns. It's ironic that I'm accused of having a subhuman intellect and all those other lovely things you say in your post because I had the insolence of recognizing these patterns.

>>5383065
Do you know who actually owns and produces content for MTV? I have one hint it's not Masons.

>>5382820

>>5383046
Yeah man, I'm totally insane. You should also tell me that the "SM64 is a masonic ritual" hypothesis is not "falsifiable", that one usually puts an end to this kind of discussion.

>>5382820
>believes in the inherent superiority of one race to another
ugh thats like so totally not cool man
>>5383071
white men

But really all of this stuff is very well-documented. Read the Vigilant Citizen website or Fritz Springmeier's books. Or has he been debunked by (((RationalWiki)))?

>>5383076
So what exactly happens when you do this ritual by playing this game? Are you doomed to hell? That doesn't sound very just to me unless God works on "Ignorantia juris non excusat". Maybe you have masonic magic powers now? I don't understand.

>>5383065
>esoteric
Esotericism isn't exclusive to a single group like the masons. Stop abusing that term.

>>5383080
*jewish men

>mr. miyamoto-san, there is a new contender to us in the form on a hedgehoggu named "sonic"

>I see... bring me any texts and information you can find on this "sonic" fellow, we must learn our enemy before we can vanquish him

>*hands over video game mzgazines and masonic books*

>>5383091
>Fritz Springmeier
Isn't that the guy who wrote books how the Germans didn't create labor camps to imprison people but to perform mind control experiments on children? Is this the type of shit you read? Also this Vigilant Citizen crap is simply a rebranding of a celebrity blog except instead of paying attention to what they are doing you're just looking for masonic shit in trivial shit like rap videos. They got you consuming this crap in a different manner.

>>5383092
>So what exactly happens when you do this ritual by playing this game? Are you doomed to hell? That doesn't sound very just to me unless God works on "Ignorantia juris non excusat". Maybe you have masonic magic powers now? I don't understand.

I'm not trying to come across like some killjoy fire and brimstone guy here. I'm not saying playing video games is sinful or whatever. I won't stop playing Mario because of this shit. I don't think there's any harm in it. TV shows are full of this kind of stuff too. If you were to avoid all media containing occultic imagery there wouldn't be much media left to consume.

>Esotericism isn't exclusive to a single group like the masons.

Yeah man I know.

>>5381672
>>5381674
>>5381676
>>5381678

A video game with fantasy elements has things that can be found in occultism, stars, coins, kings, a mountian! Holy shit, you are onto something big here!!!!1

>>5383076
You really think that checkerboard floors and five-pointed stars are indisputable evidence of a Masonic conspiracy? If so, I've got some more EPIC REDPILLS you might be interested in.

>>5383110
That image is all wrong. Bill Hicks is Alex Jones.

Good find, OP I feel like digging out my N64 and replaying this game now!

>>5383103
Yeah well, MK-Ultra is pretty well-documented stuff and it's all over popular media too. You see explicit references to it in shows like Stranger Things and Maniac, to name two recent shows. Although the shows never go into the grisly stuff of what goes on in real MK-Ultra experiments.

I think all of this could have some more sinister implications had this game been made by Westerners.

A bunch of Japanese artists were mesmerized by some frankly interesting design elements and replicated them simply because they look cool from the PoV of being outsiders raised in a radically different cultural context.

Its basically like elementary school kids drawing this bizarre symbol, or Asian Engrish t-shirts, except someone on the art team did their homework to make the game feel more authentically "magical". That's basically the whole gist of the well-researched Megami Tensei games as well, artists going the extra mile and drawing from mythology encyclopedias for that additional 'cool' factor rather than pushing some agenda their entire nation has no stake in.

>>5383110
As I said, the particular combination of occultic sun symbol within checkerboard floor pattern is... sorry, I think I'm incurring in "apophenia" here, my bad. Yeah it's all just random coincidences.

(Alex Jones is Bill Hicks btw.)

>>5383116
same desu

>>5383117
You think I don't know about Kurt Lewin, MK-Ultra, Monarch and things like the Tavistock Institute? I like how everything jews do is later pinned on the nazis through retarded conspiracy theory books. Like a thing I read recently how the Sackler Family and the opioid epidemic aren't really a jewish thing, it was all the nazis because the nazis once used an opioid as a painkiller. Just how the retarded things you find in conspiracy circles blame post war things and literally retcon them into being about nazis, Alex Jones shit for example. How George Soros and the Rothschilds are nazis, really retarded shit. Things in media aren't put there to show them to folks, it's just misdirection. Equating that stuff with fiction or muddyingy the waters.

>>5381853
>>5381898
>>5382739
>normie
>I thought "Name" referred to the thread title
Fuck off newfag. Go back to Twitter.

>>5383131
Alright man.

It might well be true that there are Jews in high positions of power intent on destroying the gentile races. Maybe it is the Jews who are behind the Illuminati/Freemasonry.

But there's a nasty flavour to /pol/ack anti-semitism, there is a weird nasty aura of spite to it. I mean surely not all Jews are evil? They were God's chosen people, after all. Jesus was a Jew.

The story with MK-Ultra in America is it was conducted by Nazi scientists brought over from Germany after the end of WW2. So basically you have Nazi scientists working for the CIA, who in turn works for the Freemasons, who according to you is controlled by (((them))).

I don't know. I don't care. They're all devil-worshippers, that's for sure.

>>5383136
fuck u

>>5381842
This is really the fatal flaw of the argument.

It's not as if there weren't foreigners working for Nintendo or anything, but all the level designers in Mario 64 were out-and-out Japanese. It's also more than possible one or more of them had knowledge of occult imagery and whatnot, but to actually have been involved in it first-hand seems virtually impossible.

>>5381671

best thread I've seen on vr

but didn't Asians make mario64?

but I thought freemasons didn't allow non whites in the lodge? for example blacks have to join their own separate lodge they're called Prince hall lodges

who made mario64?

>>5381671
>I know this might seem far fetched, but think it makes some interesting points that worth looking into
>>5381960
>"You pedantic faggot"

You can't make this stuff up. Holy shit.

>>5383154
yeah i'm sorry

>>5383150
http://www.grandlodgeofjapan.org/

>>5382740
You only have to get 70 stars to win, so most of the end game content is likely to be played after the last bowser fight.

>>5383159
So, I mean, like... let’s say it is. What are even the real implications of this? Are we to assume Mario 64 then has a weird agenda or hidden propaganda or something?

>>5383150
From my perspective, Super Mario 64 is inherently pretty foreign in concept already from anything Japan related.
>Italian plumber trying to save western style kingdom's princess
If they know about meatballs, they can know about masons.

>>5383173
What should you assume? There is no hidden propaganda, Japanese devs take influence from all sorts of esoteric symbolism sometimes blatant and sometimes subtle. How much Japanese media references Kabbalism? Alchemy? Hermeticism? Gnosticism? The Ars Goetia? The list goes on, the simple fact is, they're fascinated by it. It has cool aesthetics and drawing narrative parallels makes for a interesting story(like how tons of shit references the Bible and other religious text).

>>5383194
False equivalency. These things aren’t on the same level of cultural obscurity.

>>5383207
That’s fine. The inspiration for any design has to come from somewhere. The thread just seems to be going for something more than just “this is what inspired it, cool huh?”

>>5383217
I don't think proclaiming what is or is not considered obscure for a foreign culture is fair.
But regardless I don't think it matters anyway since the target group (sm64 dev team) is the only consideration, not the country as a whole.

We can not know if they knew or not about them, but I posit that the chance is there much like it is for anyone to know obscure factoids and create hidden homage to it.

>>5381979
The sun has been used as a symbol since antiquity, as has the checkerboard pattern. They're both aesthetically pleasing as well.

>>5383230
Yeah man I guess I'm just insane.

>>5381671
Fuck off.
This is retarded.

>>5381937
>Only in the sense that both use renaissance style architecture.
That's not what the post was referring to.
The interiors of masonic halls are ritually organized to have three tiers and representations of the sun for example.
But masonry and occultism are not interchangeable as this guy asserts. Occultism itself has many forms and if you freely jump between them you can paint anything to be occult.

>>5381671
>the gloves, a freemason symbol
>the wings on the hat, a hermetic symbol

>>5383220
This kind of thing is very common in pop culture, like I said. Check out the Vigilant Citizen website as to why they put these symbols in media. The webiste may look kind of out there but it contains some good information.

It's astounding how mad people get at a bit of fun.
I get that it's frustrating to see people saying things you know are untrue, but gosh, how infantile to carry on with it like this!

>>5382538
Correct

>>5382848
>Alchemy
Explain

>>5383237
Don't know if you're serious but yeah. And isn't Hermes one of the most important gods in occultism? But I'm sure it's just another coincidence.

Just completed Mario 64 - I can feel the masonic power kicking in. My wisdom has tripled and I can see through the walls and am also getting better erections too.

>>5383310
thats cool man

>>5383040
He's joking.

>>5383310
I was a woman and I can confirm.

I have been speedrunning it for a few years and now I have a throbbing 9" dong.

OP you should be embarrassed, this is extremely childish and retarded.

Also, let's say it's true, now what?

anyone want to post obscure symbology from other games? Maybe zelda.

>>5383324
haha yeah fuck you

>>5383345
here you go man, have fun: https://i.imgur.com/nJtDeqz.jpg

>>5383324
It means that Jews made the game and you should play sonic instead.

>>5383365
more like masonic the hedgehog: https://i.imgur.com/69r2j37.jpg

>>5381671
>>5381672
>>5381674
>>5381676
>>5381678
This guy has way too much time.

>>5383382
Sometimes I get depressed, wondering if I spend too much time reading threads here, or thinking about video games. Then I see something as cringey as this thread (some sort of misguided /pol/-infused trash), and I'm like "alright I'm not so bad."

>>5383226
You’re being obtuse.

>>5383386
>>5383386

you fucking normies

>>5381960
Imagine being this stupid.

>The game is based on collecting five-pointed stars, a common occult symbol. Not just "stars"; five-pointed stars.
Yea, 5 pointed stars, you know, the kind they sell at walmart so you can put atop your christmas tree, you fuck head?

>"Climbing a mountain in a very specific circular fashion in order to face a very specifically regal character" is a specifically occult thing and not just some vague immemorial archetypal bullshit. Dilluting the specifics in order to make them fit your definitions is bad thinking.
Looks to me more like the tower of Babel.*HHUHHHHHHHHHHH* *PPPLLLLLPPPPPPPP*

>>5383392

look man i don't want to be cruel but it is you are stupid.

i mean seriously. were you at the top of your class? i very much doubt it.

>>5383392
*it is you who are

... is what i meant to write. but i'm sorry. you're not stupid. just uninformed.

>>5383391
"i'm so edgy on 4chan" you're obviously like 16, chill the fuck out, fucking namefaggot.

>>5383240
Ignoring for the moment that most of these read like satire, the conclusion I most readily draw from these articles is that these societies do it to flaunt their apparent control of the populace. In the advertising world this would be referred to as “branding,” although I think the implication here is that they are doing it just to do it...?

>>5383398
>the conclusion I most readily draw from these articles is that these societies do it to flaunt their apparent control of the populace.

yeah man that's probably a big part of it

>>5383393
>>5383395
You can quit pretending to be 100% invested into this theory that Super Mario was some indoctrination by a Japanese company (that likely had never been exposed to masonry to begin with) into occultism.

Schizophrenia is a hell of an illness.

This is why I don't take any of those big brained galaxy thinker Youtube video essays seriously. Even someone not playing with a full deck can draw parallels between childhood bullshit and their pet psychological hangup.

>>5383418
75% of the time those people are just trying to pay the bills with views.

>>5383414

I can buy some of the more esoteric imagery being put into the game, but how is it ritualistic?

>>5381671
>/x/-tier schizoposting
I love this thread.

i like how he started the op saying that's totally not him ;^),
but then started fighting other posters defending everything like his only children.
totally a coincidence

>>5383427
>over 20 years after the game originally released

>>5383510
op said he's brazilian and the guy from twitter is form the US. could be lying but i doubt

>>5383534
>brazilian
great, then I can express myself natively
Op é um retardado do caralho

>>5383558
Okay I'm sold, Mario 64 is a satanic cult game designed by the mustache twirling Japanese Illuminati. Now what?

>>5383501

probably makes Masonic initiation more thorough on subconscious level if the subject has already done it in mario64

I'm not convinced, but man, mario 64 has been always the odd game. Just like OoT. There's something about those two that doesn't feel quite right compared to pretty much every other fucking game I've played. And I played a lot of those that people like to draw conclusions on like Earthbound, Terranigma and such. I play other games in the N64, even majora's mask sits right by me compared to those. They are unnatural in a way.

>>5381671
i definitely agree with you. there are too many similarities to occult symbols for them not to be intentional.

the question is why?

>>5383386
> /pol/-infused trash
Hey, leave loonies to be loonies, why do you have to put them in the same place as /pol/ just because many /pol/lacks are conspiracy tards? (that is the same faulty logic)
I overall like this shit bein spurted, but have two problems

1st
>in this level there are enemies that are big eyes that watch you. there is also a boss who is a giant eye, to kill him you have to let him watch you and then circumambulate him. circumambulation (walking around something) is a pagan form of worship
There's also Eyerock, who is inside a pyramid and is a pair of hands with eyes in the palms of hands, I think that's some stronger symbolism.
But in any case symbolism has to have some rhyme or reason, otherwise it's just having themes and names randomly thrown around and unconnected.
Wouldn't that be fighting against masonery? Using traditional cults?

2nd
>The coins are pentacles
This is the weakest point, not only is it a very supperficial resemblance, but also, how does it relate to occultism (which the author has connected to masonery) in any way other than appearance?
Even if they were pentas, then what's their thematic purpose? How does it "rhyme" with the rest of the imagery?

Also Brazilbro, studying Epistemology or Philosophy of science? I'd just prepared my finals and noticed many familiar terms (like f*lsacionism)

>>5383386
>>5383669
Feel the need for the daily pat on your own back?

>>5383527
Freemasonry has been in Japan since the 19th century.

>>5383558
normie solta a franga quando confrontado com verdade desconfortáveis

normal

vai tomar no seu cu

Alright, I'll restate my case.

Let's say we assign a 1 to 10 number to each "evidence" presented in the thread, representing the probability of it being intentionally a masonic-related symbol.

Sun disk within checkerboard floor, 8.9. King atop mountain, 6.2. Wise owl, 6.9. Pyramid missing capstone in yard, 9.2. And so on.

Now the thing is this. If these were isolated coincidences, if the only masonic-looking symbol in the game were the "sun within checkerboard" one or the "unfinished pyramid" one, than the likelihood of it being a mere coincidence would be worth pondering.

But no. We get a great deal of quite masonic-seeming symbols, one after the other, and this in a game that does not contain that many symbols to begin with. With each new symbol the probability of it *all* being intentional rises significantly - one might even say that it rises exponentially.

Now if these symbols were occurring as collectable objects in Katamari Damacy, the probability of it all being intentionally masonic would lower quite a bit, given the abundance of collectable objects in the game. If alongside these symbols we also had symbols of other religious and spiritual traditions as collectable objects (as sacrilegious as that sounds), that probability would lower even more.

So there is, too, the matter of taxonomies or categories: to what category do the symbols in question belong? Are they general religious symbols or do they seem to belong to a specific religious tradition? If the latter, then the probability of it all not being a mere coincidence, of it all not being just some random stuff, rises significantly again. We don't get just the sun. We get sun, checkerboard, red carpet, owl, pyramid without capstone, all within a relatively short span of time.

But hey, I might be wrong. I guess I'm just clumsily joining a bunch of "dots" with a big old crayon like a mad man and thinking they form some kind of "picture." Yeah that must be it.

As for the numbers assigned to the evidence,

>Sun disk within checkerboard floor, 8.9. King atop mountain, 6.2. Wise owl, 6.9. Pyramid missing capstone in yard, 9.2.

... the thing is this. Let's say these numbers represent the probability of each symbol being intentionally masonic *if it were the only masonic-seeming symbol occuring in the game*. But you get quite a bunch of quite masonic-seeming symbols in the game, and this should bump these numbers up even for the "weak" evidence.

So let's say that in isolation the numbers for the "green sulphurous smoke" and the "liquid mercury" in the "chtnonic underground cave" level would be 0.2, 0.4 and 0.3 respectively, they just look like random stuff although the three of them occurring together does vaguely suggest that they are intentional symbols.

But if you consider the constellation of rather overtly masonic symbols throughout the rest of the game, these numbers get bumped up significantly. We probably really are talking "sulphur", "mercury" and "infernal cave" here. I'll say the numbers are now 6.8, 7.2 and 7.9. Their symbolism has emerged rather clearly in light of the other symbols. I mean yes some of them may be coincidental, the leve designer just thought green would be a cool color for smoke. Sure. But that's not all that likely anymore.

These "numbers" in my posts are completely subjective of course and if I were to think more rigorously about it I would probably have to adjust them quite a bit, I'm just giving an outline of how I think one should think about this kind of stuff.

Anyway that's it, that's my perspective. Now feel free to call me a retarded faggot. Bless your hearts.

>>5383364
What is this, a conspiracy for ants? I want to read about my platonic cult

>>5383598
That's funny, it's the complete opposite to me. Majora's Mask still feels like an odd game in designs and narrative compared to other Nintendo games like Mario 64 and OoT. Not even your other examples made me feel as uncomfortable as MM did. That's not necessarily a bad thing of course but I just wanted to share my opinion with you so this thread doesn't consist of that brazilian redditor who keeps yelling "look at me look at me I have an opinion and you have to agree with me or you don't understand reeeee!".

>24 hours this shit-tier thread is still up
WTF is wrong with 4channel

>>5383826
The sooner you learn this site is full of people who couldn't finish high school, the better off you are.

>>5381875
Purple Gorrilas spying, eh?

>>5383145
If you read the Old Testimate you would know the Jews couldn't be a shittier chosen people in the eyes of God, then spit in his face over countless generations. A vile, self-serving people who have carved positions of complete monitary rule over millennia. Know why Pinocchio's nose grew when he lied?

/pol/ is "anti-semite" because everyone learned firsthand that objective, rational critique of the jewish culture branded them an anti-semite. So fuck the kikes lol I AM an anti-semite. Sure as fuck not pro-semite lmao also Jewish blood =/= Jewish culture. Most admixture jews are considered Goy all the same

>>5381875
>purple gorillas spying on him.
Banzi buddy was very real.

>>5382000
He's brazilian. This is what they are. Monkeys who somehow managed to grasp the notion of a language other than "huehuehue" and chimping out. The best of them occasionally learn SOME level of english proficiency, but at their core they are all barely above monkeys. They thirst for the chance to chimp out and revert to their true personalities, which is why you shouldn't be surprised he started attacking you instead of trying to have a civil discussion.

>>5383663
I say they simply used masonic symbolism (masonic =! occult) as a conceptual basis for the game.

>>5381875
he's not totally wrong. you play as the character and kill a bunch of people. you feel the murder you've caused. as a very young kid its hard to tell the difference so it is almost like a sort of desensitisation

>>5383235
>TOP AIDS
So is your post

>>5384038
>I AM an anti-semite
Not even, just because you're a critic of jews/zionist doesn't really make you an anti-semite (I'm sure you know semitic people aren't just limited to jews).
The whole "anti-semite" term is one of their many tricks.
It's as if saying that because you're a critic of the English royalty, you're anti-caucasic.

>>5384080
masonry is occultic, but not all occult symbols are masonic

the hand of hamsa or fatima is in shifting sand land, there are plenty of pentagrams throughout the game, the tower of babel is in bob-omb land, there are a pair of levels dedicated to rainbows, and bowser himself represents the serpent or lizard monster that plenty of mythological heroes defeat on their journeys.

none of those are explicitly masonic, but all are occultic

>>5384078
Yeah, my verbal IQ seems to be quite high according to the Psychology Today test. And as you know, English is not my first language. I can assure you I did not cheat (this flattering result would be worthless to my self-esteem if I did), but feel free to accuse me of it.

I have apologized for my bad behaviour, although I only began to get aggressive after being called things like faggot and retard a few times. Feel free to pick my posts apart and show me where exactly my blundering monkey logic is wrong. I wish to be enlightened by a civilized gentleman like you.

>>5384109
>none of those are explicitly masonic

lol. okay man, i give up.

have another cool pictue of a japanese masonic lodge.

>>5384149
I DIDN'T SAY THAT THERE WEREN'T MASONIC SYMBOLS IN THE GAME

I SAID THAT NOT ALL OF THE OCCULTIC SYMBOLS WERE MASONIC. PROVE ME WRONG. WHERE IN MASONRY ARE RAINBOWS, PENTAGRAMS, THE HAND OF HAMSA, AND THE TOWEL OF BABEL MENTIONED?

CLEARLY, THERE IS SOME OCCULT MEANING WITHIN MARIO 64, POSSIBLY SUPER MARIO BROS. 3, LEGEND OF ZELDA: OCARINA OF TIME, AND OTHER GAMES THAT I HAVEN'T ANALYZED, YET

>>5384146
You want enlightenment? Earn it, monkeyboy. This is all you get.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_wRxz16lXE

>>5383392
>Yea, 5 pointed stars, you know, the kind they sell at walmart so you can put atop your christmas tree, you fuck head?
another trick of the occult—christmas and the star both. The Christian/Jewish/Israelite God says nothing about Christmas. He does say quite a bit though about his own holidays which, surprise surprise, are mostly ignored. None of them involve five pointed stars. However, the pentagram is considered to be a powerful magical symbol. If you're saying to yourself "that symbol is just a common symbol you see everywhere," well lad, that's the point.

>>5381847
Shinto is only their religion, they use Onmyoudou to make cool magic origami attack drones

Shame the direction this thread went, I really love how much can one make-up about Mario lore given how little story the game has