/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5382087
Why not stop whining that the world owes you shit and learn Japanese yourself to translate it for others how you want? At least you didn't mash the quotation key like a tard this time though, that's something :)

>>5382087
How much better could a completely gutted script even get with a retranslation? I don't think there is that much to be gained.

Just play the remake, it's good.

>>5382180
>polygons
>good
fucking zoomers

>>5382087
I wanted a better translation for breath of fire 1 but nope.

>>5382087
>relocalized hack
tried FuSoYa?

What's wrong with the translation?
I grew up with the original and I turned out fine

>>5382554
Isn't that the same awful shit?

>i'm such a weeb nip dick rider i want a word for word translation from their pyschobabble moon-rune script

Why the fuck do new threads about relocalization patches keep popping up? This is like the fifth in a short while.

Anyway, as always, lol EOPs.

>>5383667
OP is an entitled butthurt retard who is eternally mad that the world won't give him exactly what he wants.

>>5382554
tried wildbill?

The remake has made this version obsolete.

>>5386040
More like obso1337. SoM fuckin rawks douchenozzle

Don't worry you are not going to read Shakespeare.

>>5382087
The world is against you

>>5382551
Shut up! It's localized by Ted Woosley and has JOKES and CHARM. It's PERFECT as it is. Only fools (and Ted Woosley himself) say otherwise. What else do you want, you ENTITLED crybaby? Are you one of them crazies who play jrpgs for the STORY, as if it actually MATTERS?

>>5382551
The GBA version exists.

>>5382087
This is going to sound clichéd here OP, but why don't you try to do it yourself?

>>5382087
self entitled faggot

>>5382087
kill yourself then

>>5383667
>nothing to contribute but still seething he learned an entire language to consume more low brow media

S E E T H I N G

>>5382087
What was so bad about it? If you can't read Japanese, it really shouldn't matter. I bet you are also one of those guys that complain about "Aeris" too, like you knew that before reading it on the internet or something.

>>5388982
But wasn't the GBA one is copypasted?

>>5382087
>>5382547
play the remake in japanese to lay your suspicion to rest

>>5389000
>>5389065
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>>5389094
>>5389098
>>5389165
>post timing not suspicious at all
>barely coherent posts
i see you read "manufacturing consent for noobs" and decided to practice your samefaggotery here, how cute

>>5389735
Go swallow your dads cum

>>5389821
>crazy Woosley fangirl sends him panties through mail
>get fan patches taken down from romhack sites
best fanbase

>>5389000
Sure, because it wasn't that learing japanese and hex coding is hard for me, and something more funny the codes for restore the fucking image are not released

>>5389894
it sounded the most autistic bullshit, but what i am talking is how inexpert i am for doing it by myself

>>5382547
Who do you even think you're fooling?

>>5389856
heh

>>5382087
>>5382087
Thank fucking god im not a weeaboo like you. Is the best feel ever to wake up and know i wont be deppresed because someone didn't translate well some generic shounen rpg with le power of friendship bullshit literature. Thank fucking god.

Guys.. why not just LEARN Japanese?

>>5390043
it's not like learning japanese is hard in terms of alphabet and the meaning of the words

>>5390109

Suuuuuuuuuuuure it isn't WINK WINK
I'm with you man, lets troll the fuck out of /vr/ together from now on, every time someone talks about wanting a translation you'll say "just learn Japanese, pfff so easy" and I'll be like "sure is! WINK"

>>5382087
Once you remove the rose-colored glasses of nostalgia you'll realize that Secret of Mana is actually an awful game, and you'll be less annoyed by the lack of a retranslation :)

>>5382087
>>5382180
The thing that makes me most mad about the "remake" is they didn't bring in all that content Square "claims" was cut when the CD drive for the SNES was dropped. No point in buying it again for 3d sprites

>>5390918
Word on the street is that all the cut content is basically Chrono Trigger and bringing it back may be pointless.
Could have tried to do away with the whole "go to the Lofty Mountains so sage Joch can tell you where to go next, rinse and repeat" thing in the second half in some fashion, though.

>>5389092
Hello, my friend.

Where the fuck is this trend of 'Secret of Mana had a good story' coming from? It didn't. 'Bad guy bad, want hurt world' is as basic as it gets and it's not like there's a lot of potential in the characters.

They'd need to rewrite and restructure the game to make the writing better, and that's a whole different project par to remaking the game.

>>5390918
>content Square "claims" was cut when the CD drive for the SNES was dropped
Has it ever been stated what the cut content was? I don't give a fuck about the re-translation or the remake but this is something I have wondered about for 20 fucking years.

>>5391850
Not outright (and most of it probably wasn't "cut" as much as "never left the planning phase"), but it's fairly obvious that after you beat the emperor's castle and kill Geshtar, the rest of the game is just the barest minimum of what they had planned, and that the two other generals were meant to play big roles in this part of the story. The Moon and Light palaces were also most definitely meant to be much bigger and more involving.

>>5390991
Not that it IS Chrono Trigger, but that a bunch of setpieces made for Secret of Mana got repurposed for Chrono Trigger instead of being trashed completely.

>>5391860
Yes of course, didn't mean to imply that. Meant it like you said but worded it lazily.
Either way, you'd see a lot of things rehashed if you re-introduced this content and so putting that back in might not be all that exciting.

>>5382087
from my 10+ years of experience in the fansubbing, scanlation, and video game fan translation scenes, almost everybody involved in these scenes is an awful person. you cannot expect reasonable results from a community plagued with ego tripping maniacs and cultists.

Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji makes Japanese covers and games more interesting than they actually are, change my mind.

>>5389094
>If you can't read Japanese, it really shouldn't matter.
This. If there weren't people saying "omg the English release was fucking butched", people would only complain about spelling errors and nothing else.

>>5382087
>I lost my entire hopes to see an good retranslation of SD2
>an good

You got more than you deserve already.

which hole do you awful burger localizer enablers even crawl out of

>>5390918
Why are you putting remake and claims in quotemarks? Do you even know how they're supposed to be used? I understand perhaps if English isn't your native language but you're not doing yourself any favors.

>>5391967
The one where practically is understood.

>>5382087
I lost my virginity to your mom

>>5391976
>practically
correct orthography is for libruls

>>5391979
What do you think you mean when you say that?

>>5391995
this is trump's america now, we write things the way we want and whenever we want them too. orthography is a cultural marxist weapon utilized by (((coastal elites))) against the good honest salt of the earth citizens of the united states of america.

>>5391950
Now, I won't say much about the English release. But the German localization had pop culture references (Lindenstraße) that certainly weren't in the original, in which case you start to wonder what the original said there and what other things may have been changed.
In general it's true though that you'd be none the wiser playing a localized game without knowing the original's language unless somebody on the internet told you something's wrong with it.

What in the everlasting fuck is this thread?

>>5392014
You make me even more glad I don't have to live in that shithole of a country. Even the most basic structures holding your culture together are imploding under all the stupidity. No wonder everyone there are scrambling like rats to suck down prescription opioids till you die. ""lol""

>>5392024
moyse can eat my dingleberries. woolsey rightfully noted that while he had technical limitations, he was not happy with what he did back in the 90s. i respect that. moyse kept trucking on and even doubled down on his general asshattery. i hope he dies of pancreatic cancer.

>>5392037
To be fair, adding jokes was supposedly done under orders from higher up, and his conditions for doing these localiztions were less than ideal, much like Woolsey's case except probably even worse
>doesn't know Japanese, gets chosen to localize games
>flies to Japan and gets a rudimentary script from the developer (and in SoM's case, little support from anyone at Square because they had beef with Nintendo at the time and also other things to do)
>doesn't get to play the game in most cases, only gets to have some context for the lines he's supposed to translate after wasting a big chunk of what little time is allotted for the project
>usual limitations like available memory apply
Knowing this made me more sympathetic to his own position in all this, which doesn't mean the end result is any better for it.
And you also have to keep in mind these were the first more text-heavy games even being localized at all. But at the same time you have to wonder what the fuck Nintendo of Europe was thinking at the time, sending someone who doesn't understand Japanese to play some weird game of telephone and calling the end result "localization". Seems like a bad idea, whether they had little experience with making localizations at the time or not.

>>5392028
Combination of zoomers from /v/ that can only discuss retro games in relation to remakes, and then some autistic EOP vs JOP shitposting.

>>5392116
that's nice and all, but it's no excuse for his hamfisted dumbass localization choices. they are inexcusable. he's almost wrecking designs tier.

>>5392293
Now what exactly would you have liked him to do differently, having a gun against his head?
The suits didn't want a translation that was too serious, and he delivered that.

>>5392116
>But at the same time you have to wonder what the fuck Nintendo of Europe was thinking at the time, sending someone who doesn't understand Japanese to play some weird game of telephone and calling the end result "localization".
It was the early 90s. Getting someone fluent in the language the game was being translated to was a new step forward.

>>5391970
>it's the faggot who's triggered by quotation marks again

yikers

>>5392014
Urban bugman NPC's unironically have no souls. Letting these beasts determine anything on a national scale is a terrible mistake.

>>5392030
Thank God For accelerationism. The best thing for the USA will be balkanization so that a true right wing government can form like a pheonix rising from the ashes. For all their talking and posturing, urban liberals will die during the first strike. It's adorable they think Trump is the worst the right has to offer.

We have not yet begun to fight.

>>5390918
Some of the loose ends were restored.
Purim's third alternative meetup cutscene only accessible with a glitch that softlocks the US version on some text for example, now is a working optional event.
They didn't go out of their way to fix it, and the translation is the same old shit with some edits that try "fixing" it

>>5392037
It's so funny Woolsey's style born out of technical limitations, horrendous deadlines, Nintendo censorship, and having to compromise or guess things with no proofreading going on and very shitty standards for testing, are now "celebrated" as standards no localization should be devoid of, when the man himself was clearly not satisfied about it and tried to write his own game (lost to the 64DD because fuck nintendo tricking developers into supporting hardware they know they will pull the plug on very soon) instead of hijacking someone else's work.

No coincidence it's the only way EOPs or propagandists with a load of shit to sell absolutely love this. It's one of the only ways they can pretend to be useful in game development other than "cultural advisors" at western AAA corporations , or community managers, without ever having a talent legitimizing them (though as of late the sjw invasion of japanese loc is real at translator level when it used to be just the editors or marketing team ordering them around)

>But at the same time you have to wonder what the fuck Nintendo of Europe was thinking at the time, sending someone who doesn't understand Japanese to play some weird game of telephone and calling the end result "localization".
Nintendo of Europe in 1993 was controlled by NoA. That didn't keep them from pulling a "triforce of gods" for the french Zelda Alttp, or a mostly uncut Terranigma with french / spanish translators fluent in Japanese.

>>5391967
Resetera.
Look out for post timings (eventful days ie leaks) between imageboards and it and you'll notice patterns. It's not only celebrating bad 90's locs, but demanding it today.

>>5395414
Also discord astroturfers. You notice the pattern across multiple boards.

>>5395468
There was that shitstain resetard posting here how "donkey kong was always thought of as raw shit in the gaming community"... directly quoting and screencapping random assholes from neofag and reeesetera as if they hold any weight. Then predictably he went full retard about how dumb /vr/ is on anyone who told him where to stuff that random internet hole blabber.
That one was blatant.

HG101's boards, or whatever embers remain of, have been like a resetera-lite for a good while, but even more pathetic.

Just think about this for a moment: there are people on resetera who think the original translators of Terranigma should be tracked down and metoo'd, and the game retranslated to remove "problematic content" (in Neotokio and China), because they're too unsettled that Nintendo translated a game uncut for once.
You know, Terranigma. The game that was ALREADY denied an official US release over its content, but it wasn't enough for them since an English version still existed somewhere. (Expect yet another "relocalization" patch for it soon, that fixes none of the game's actual problems and makes the German version's writing look respectable in comparison, OP)

>>5395970
Wtf why are they tripping about some cartoon violence in a fucking Nintendo game when there's shit like The Witcher and Assasins Creed these days that depict rape and torture? Who the fuck cares about this shit. These people must be aggressively allergic to vagina.

>>5395970
>You know, Terranigma. The game that was ALREADY denied an official US release over its content
Weren't those basically unsubstantiated rumors, and the actual reason for lack of a US release was the fact the Enix's US branch went belly-up at the time? The game was even translated by NoA staff.
Though you'd expect religious iconography present in the game to be removed, which makes the whole thing plausible.
Also, the only problematic content in Terranigma is Beruga getting aroused by Ark. I'm joking.