/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===
[2-10] Evilternity updated to final release
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103425-final-release-eviternity/

[2-9] BTSX E3 screenshots
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104557-back-to-saturn-x-episode-3-wip/

[2-9] Quake2XP receives an update
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2-xp/downloads/quake2xp-1269-beta2

[2-8] Sunder and Deus Vult II resume development
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/45774-dvii-second-edition-underway-its-time/?do=findComment&comment=1960915
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/46002-sunder/?do=findComment&comment=1961207

[2-8] XLEngine on Github
https://github.com/Mindwerks/XLEngine

[2-8] New DBP project: Mindblood Genesis
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/104171-mindblood-genesis-dbp08-released-a-limit-removing-project-from-doomer-boards/

[2-5] Doomba - Roombas used for mapping
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103677-roomba-mod-will-map-your-house-and-then-make-it-into-a-doom-map/

[2-3] Anon map release: SCRAP
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file

[2-2] Neural-upscaled textures for Quake 2
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-upscaled-pack

[1-26] Odamex 0.8.0 released, now using SDL2
https://odamex.net/boards/index.php/topic,3182.0.html?PHPSESSID=vtj14rfqgmd8se632212rcooq4

[1-22] Hexen Neural Upscale textures
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103770-hexen-neural-upscale-08012018/

[1-22] BloodGDX v0.798 released
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php

[1-22] SM191 for Quake, a mapset inspired by classic
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61678

[1-21] Trenchboom adds experiment support for Quake III
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases

[1-21] GZDoom 3.7.2 released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63346


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first for daikatana

>>5363763
guncaster: timewarp
goes back in time to the old weapon designs and character

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPzBp8fPVlo

>>5363571
I've been thinking about this for a long time. I could at least make the port draw to the screen. Drawable textures are something Graf has [No]'d already despite how many of us want them. GZDoom already does have camera textures, and they pretty much work in a similar way to what we want, except rather than drawing a camera, we'd just draw images and text and whatnot. It doesn't look like it'd take much work to get this done for someone who knows that part of the engine (which I don't).

I guess it's just not a priority™.

I've combed through hundreds of these threads and I've compiled a list of the 20 most popular artists to listen to while playing Doom:
Blixemi
Candlemass
Cocteau Twins
Dean Blunt
Devin Townsend
Enya
Funkadelic
Genesis
Guided By Voices
Jay-Z
King Crimson
Nine Inch Nails (only instrumental stuff)
Nirvana
oOoOO
Paul Anka
Summoning
Type O Negative
Velvet Underground
Vince Staples
Xiu Xiu

Overpowered Dragon VS Nazis in space.

>>5363913
I'd watch that film

>>5363910
almost all of these would be horribly distracting
only like instrumental stuff like synthwave or industrial would work

>>5363910
I only listen to MIDI music while playing DOOM

>>5363910
I listen to my playlist on Spotify and that's it

>>5363924
you haven't lived unless you listen to KMFDM while dooming

4 days to mid february John.

>>5363949
not him, but any recs from them?

>>5363910
I like to listen to some Meshuggah while playing Doom.
It really sets the mood.

>>5363910
>No Death Grips
One job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0oD3r1nNMs

I guess I should expect as much but if you play Strife with Guncaster, all Cygnis does is snark his way through the journey!

>>5363949
Only if there are MIDI versions available

>>5363961
wow, he's so cool!! xD

>>5363959
Death Grips was number 21

What's your favourite Remixes/Covers of Retro Shooters?

Mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H87H4m5wgTc&t=52s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReYPAne45ME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CR4Qi02srAE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rD8kyE286E

>>5363962
>handsome
nah

>>5363976
Every ProDoomer© and gentleman should cultivate a full and dignified beard.

Sigil will be here any minute now

>>5363998
>says increasingly nervous man for seventh time this day

>>5363986
I would if I could

>>5363998
>>5364002
It's not like Romero is known for releasing on time when he's in charge.

>>5363998
>>5363951
i'm looking forward to people getting angry when john romero doesn't meet their own made-up deadline

With all the extra wads that come with Strife on Steam, what loadout am I supposed to use in ZDL?

>>5364029
M-Mods!

>>5364029
> E N O G H

>>5364029
Is it really necessary to fetishize daemons?

So I'm new to GMOTA.

I've just been playing it and doing my own thing, but I don't know if I'm playing it "right". Are there any videos you'd recommend of someone playing through a tough WAD with it so I get an idea of what the mod is capable of? I think my playstyle with it might be very boring compared to what you can get away with.

>>5364029

>>5364058
Looks like its from the guy who did this H Doom

>>5364058
It is.
He helped making these sprites.

>>5364058
>dat ass

>>5364029
>>5364058
Probably a stupid question but, how do you see Basilissa in third person?

>>5364029
>>5364058
I'm not going on a rant now because it could hurt the fee-fees of some precious anons

>>5364094
type chase in console

>>5364097
No,go ahead.Let's hear your opinion.

Damn, I love Eviternity so far. The level design is just so classic and fun, the aesthetics of a cool Gothic/Quake-esque style, and the gameplay is exciting but not punishingly difficult, unlike the usual "Hey look a thousand Revenants popped out" stuff.

>>5363910
>Jay-Z
>King Crimson
>Nine Inch Nails
>Genesis
i get these but
>Enya
>Funkadelic
>Paul Anka
>Cocteau Twins

why?

>>5364097
thanks for announcing

>>5364112
>unlike the usual "Hey look a thousand Revenants popped out" stuff.
Oh boy, wait until you reach the later levels.

>>5364112
Anon, I...

>>5364124
He said "most popular" not "best"

>>5364097
>i'm totally above this
>but i HAVE to let people know that

>>5364097
Okay

>>5364156
It's probably the retard from the end of last thread, anyway.

Finished Good Morning Phobos.
Map 29 had like 900 enemies but besides that, it was fun.
I feel like replaying it with TrailBlazer and CH.

>>5364141
> double barrel pump action shotgun
always love to see them

>>5364145
>>5364156
>>5364163
I'm not shitting on furries, trans and homos again because your precious fee-fees must be protected at all costs.

>>5364179
You will never be considered human, slavshit.

>>5364183
Nice try, Pedro. Remember the last time America/Europe was white? Yeah, me neither. :^)

>>5363875
On a power ranking, top being most OP and bottom being least OP, how would you rank these gameplay mods, according to how powerful they make the player character?

If they offer options to make enemies more powerful as well, ignore those, we're only talking about the player character here. If a mod offers various characters/loadouts, you may rank them separately. Assuming default settings on all mods, though you may comment on how they play after fiddling with settings as well if you want.

List:
>Combined Arms
>DAKKA
>Faspons
>Final Doomer
>GMOTA
>Heretical Doom
>High Noon Drifter
>MSFixd
>Necrodoom
>Project Brutality
>Russian Overkill
>Trailblazer
>Weapons of Saturn

I'm interested in getting a wide range of opinions from /doom/ on this.

>>5364191
>according to how powerful they make the player character?
high noon drifter is kind of difficult to put on this given the damage/defense sliders

>>5364197
>Assuming default settings on all mods

>>5364191
>Russian Overkill
this automatically goes into the STUPIDLY OP tier, my dude .. which is the point of the mod

>>5364202
I know, I include it in the list because I expect it to be at the top of it, as a frame of reference.

>>5364183
>>5364186
Stop

>>5364025
While waiting for a reply to this, is there a port of Dark Forces that allows mid-level saves?

>>5364191
Russian Overkill
Trailblazer
High Noon Drifter - although mostly level headed, the Staff and everything about Basilissa break any ordinary limits and put you into death incarnate category
Final Doomer - Doomguy is pretty bonkers, plus some specific guns of other "characters" tend to show some ludicrous performance, but on average it's fairly balanced.
Combined Arms - there is a lot of nearly infinite decently high firepower, especially the rocket launcher that is sustainable with barely a pair of rocket crates, but nothing really game breaking
GMOTA - honestly I've never felt too powerful, although I feel that it just isn't a mod for me
MSF - the are some definitely powerful weapons at you disposal, but you yourself is nothing more than a wet tissue paper, this holds your powerlevel way back
Most of the remaining list I havent touch in a while, so I did not list them.

>>5364226
Which would you say is more OP between the Combined_Arms loadout and the Blastmaster MKII (both from CA obviously)

>>5364230
Oh fuck, I kinda forgot about Blastmaster entirely, honestly I'm not even sure if I actually played the version with him or not.

>>5364191
extreme weapons pack.

found a bunch of old fps stuff mixed into the CDs at goodwill today. looks like somebody really liked their expansion packs, i never even heard of a couple of these.

>>5364280
>Dark Forces 2
>System Shock 1
>Unreal 1
>Outlaw

Good deal anon

Speaking of which,what do you think of System Shock 1,anons?

>>5364230
Oh, nevermind, had a bit of a refresher, definitely Combined Arms, shotgun alternate fire alone is enough to win me over.

>>5364307
Amazing, but only after you install the mouselook mod.

Trying to learn to play SS1 purely vanilla is just really not worth your time. Its keybinds and controls by default are, to this day, the most obstuse I've ever seen. Mouselook mod completely fixes that.

>>5364025
Strife as an iwad (or sve.wad) and voices.wad as a pwad. You can also zip the music folder that comes with veteran edition and have that in your zdl load order too for higher quality music.

>>5364141
Hiya

>>5364052
As long as demons are dying and you're not dying, you're playing just fine. Make sure to consult the F1 help screens though, that'll help a lot.

>>5364240
You're actually playing as the same character with both weapon sets, that weirdo with the blue bubble helmet. He just jams that other helmet on with the Blastmaster set.
Also getting the berserk upgrade with the Blastmaster puts it into highly OP territory

>>5364330
Thanks

Noob quake question:

Why is it that some maps like Nyarlathotep's sand castle tell you to drop them into the already existing Arcane Dimensions directory, and other map packs like XMASJam2018 tell you to make a directory exclusive to it with its own version of Arcane Dimensions in it?

>>5364331
What mod is this?

>>5364425
one comes with AD assets prepacked, the other doesn't

>>5364457
Clearly, but what I mean to ask I guess is, can I just drop the XMASJam maps into my existing AD folder as well and have it work?

>>5364430
A massive update to the TurokDoom mod from 2008. (yes the weapons are 3d)

>>5364459
will probably cause issues
just follow instructions, theyre there for a reason

>>5364469
Ok.

>>5364468

>>5364468
>>5364474
Not publicly available I take it?

>>5364478
At least not until a decent enemy set is in place.

>>5363913
wad?

>>5364486
Hell on Earth Starter Pack.

>>5364474

>>5364323
I'm playing the enhanced edition with the source port update and yes it's awesome.
It's pretty difficult but it's so satisfying.
The ost is great too.

>>5364497

>>5364497
Are you going to include the guns from other Turok games other than the 1st one?

>>5364331
>>5364468
>>5364474
>>5364497
This looks great, can't wait for the public release.

>>5364506

listening to doom music while coding makes you type faster

>>5364507
All guns from original mod plus more.

>look at old ass PSX games
>think to myself I could easily recreate that or get close with Doom
>never actually commit, just imagine
and that my friends is why I have yet to figure out how to procrastinate

>>5364331
>>5364468
>>5364474
>>5364497
>>5364506
>>5364509
Damn! Its lookin good! Turok had such great guns. Does this mod include the Cerebral Bore? That was pretty metal

>>5364519
uh to stop procrastrinatiumate is what I mean

>>5364523
>procrastrinatiumate

>>5364521
>Does this mod include the Cerebral Bore?
Not planned unless I find someone that can code it properly.

Any Linux guys using Quakespasm here?

I'm having a bit of a problem that I'm almost certain has to do with case-sensitive filenames. I'm trying to play Beyond Belief with Qspasm, but I'm getting the "Couldn't spawn server maps/bbstart.bsp" type of messages. I figured maybe it was because the map inside the PAK was called BBSTART, so I tried that as well, and I got the same error. Tried Bbstart, BBstart, nothing.

Could you guys help me out? Absolutely none of the other many maps I've tried has given me problems like this.

>>5363875
rock and roll will never die

>>5364519
>>5364523
I'm in your position but for learning how to create maps, it's been one month since I'd supposedly learn how to do it but I'm kicking it more and more

>>5363875
Quake Ranger's first name is Steph, according to the digital copy of Quake 1 I got and use via DOSBOX.

>>5364531
NEVERMIND I just figured it out, I'm a dummy. Just had to rename PAK0.PAK to pak0.pak

hurr.

>>5364531
>>5364557
Oh yeah. Absolutley EVERYTHING has to be lower case. Expect some 'couldn't find Start.bsp' in usermaps because Windowsfags can't into case sensitivity. Sad truth is you might be better off booting to Windows.

>>5364572
>Sad truth is you might be better off booting to Windows.

Nah. When trying to figure out what I was doing wrong I found this, which luckily lets you extract and look at the guts of pak files, so you can see if the author was clueless about filename conventions and fix it yourself

https://github.com/yquake2/pakextract

That's why I was going nuts over "this extracted file shows the map names are lowercase, so what gives? I'm doing it right", and I dunno why I didn't think to rename the actual pak file to lowercase til now.

>>5364578
>so you can see if the author was clueless about filename conventions and fix it yourself
Won't help you much if you're playing an episode and the next level trigger tries to load Map2 instead of map2. Means you'll be shotgun starting a lot or losing any hub based progress (like the runes system).

>>5364587
WAKE ME UP.
I mean, I guess if there was a mapset that I was dying to play and this was the case, it wouldn't be so hard to fix the level triggers.

Kinda wish Quakespasm would have some command to ignore cases and treat Map2 and map2 as the same file for that sort of thing, but oh well

do any ppl still play half-life death match? i used to love that cuz it had some weird weapons that were p sick like the lazer gun that if u charged up could shoot through walls, those bugs you could dump on assholes, and sniping with the silent crossbow, kinda tempted to cop it on steam and see if anyones still online

>>5364124
Cocteau Twins is perfect for wads like Epic 2 and Sunlust

>>5364553
Where does it say, my dude

>>5364618
When you get killed by an enemy.

what are some essential quake mods to play? just played through arcane dimensions, pretty decent overall although the secret finding was a little ridiculous at some points, especially boggy

Is it possible to play the regular Quake episodes or maps made for vanilla Quake through AD?

Going back to hitscan shotguns after playing with AD's projectile shotguns feels weird

>>5364678
Oh shit you CAN!
Just loaded up E1M1 through AD and it just werks with the modified enemies. Neat.

>>5364621
whoever uploaded your pirated copy goes by the name Steph

>>5364553
>>5364618
>>5364621
>>5364702
gottem

>>5364713
What!?

>>5364668
Soul Of Evil, Travail, Honey, all of the func_mapjams and retrojams (I especially like retrojam6 and func_mapjam2 for their themes)

>>5364668
Altar of Storms
Beyond Belief
Honey
Ter Shibboleth
Travail
Something Wicked This Way Comes
Halloween Jam
XMASJam 2018
The Zombie's House

And in case you haven't played them, the 3 mission packs are pretty solid too (Scourge of Armaggon by Hipnotic, Dissolution of Eternity by Rogue, and Dimension of the Past by Gearbox)

How do you guys feel about Quake 1.5?

>>5364668
Contract Revoked and Map Jam 9 are personal favorites of mine.

>>5363875
It kinda amazes me that the texture set that Eviternity uses, OTEX, started in development 20 years ago.

Is there a console command for Quake 1 that disables auto-switching on weapon pickup? It really annoys me

In my timeline id Software was sued for using all those popular metal songs withou a license.

Anyone else think Eternity is an underrated source port?

>>5363910
For me, it's
-the actual doom music
-slayer
-bathory
-autopsy
-demolition hammer
-youtube gabber playlists
-venom
-discharge
-early carcass
-iggy and the stooges

Do you think Doom and Quake will be forever relevant and timeless? Will some toddlers born today end up being the Quakedads of tomorrow, or will the Quakedads become extinct in time?

>>5364047
yes, absolutely

>>5364772
no, that behavior is defined in the QuakeC code
you could patch it out for the base game easily, but then would need to do it again and differently for each mod you play

>>5364912
y u do this carmack

rate my impossible geometry
(in case you hadn't seen it in the build thread)

Kegan, if you are reading these threads - know that a bug exists in GMOTA that makes any mourning star's balls to fall through walls if shot at that angle.

>>5364961
Probably a weirdness with how the rebound balls are spawned, it's a harmless visual quirk, the weapon should function the same regardless.

>>5364943
Pretty neat.
Needs more floor and ceiling height variation, as a map goes, though. imo

>>5364943
I'm more amazed you managed to fit a webm of this quality and length under 3MB

>>5364983
non-euclidean data storage

>>5364943
This is cool. If I may ask however
>BUILD thread
Why? Isn't this thread supposed to encompass all retro FPS discussion anyway?

>>5365038
People see "DOOM THREAD" and go somewhere else.

Do many people in the Doom community like Guided By Voices?

>>5365038
>Why? Isn't this thread supposed to encompass all retro FPS discussion anyway?
does it really matter?

people make other doom threads, too

>>5365079
For some reason, the Build threads appear to be set to auto-sage after some time. Don't know what the fuck is up with that.

>>5363910
I like to blast Hotline Miami 1 + 2 soundtrack while playing fast paced shit like D4T or big arsenal mods

I hate Doom 3 so fucking much

>>5365193
...I don't mind Doom 3.
It definately wasn't the Doom I wanted, but at the end of the day I got some mileage of that game. On its own terms, it's passable.

Where can I get the latest vanilla version of Team Fortress? How do I setup a server for it? I want to play it with some friends.

>>5365197
the only fun I got out of it was doom 3 coop with my friends
we had friendly fire on, we had grenades, and we weren't afraid to use them (even in elevators)

I want a DAKKA analogue for Heretic.

>>5365193
I think it's ok. Go for the chainsaw for max fun.

>>5365197
I disagree. There's nothing wrong with the concept of a horror-focused Doom game, but it's not actually atmospheric or scary. It feels like a haunted house with the constant "surprise" enemy encounters and cheesy evil laughter. And they didn't get the action right either, it's incredibly unsatisfying. The worst of both worlds.

>>5365220
>There's nothing wrong with the concept of a horror-focused Doom game
I will say that.

I think Doom 3 was overall ok as a shooter (improves with a flashlight mod), and while I think a horror flavored Doom could work just fine, Doom 3 doesn't really have a particularly strong or refined grasp on horror, which is why that aspect falls so flat. The game really shouldn't have bothered much at all with trying to be scary, and instead have focused more on making the run-n-gun action better.

>>5365234
Can't be an OK shooter if the most basic aspect (shooting) falls flat on its face

>>5365261
Well the shotgun sucks, but like overall I think the action is decent.
I want to again stress that the chainsaw makes the game much more fun.

>>5364331
>>5364468
>>5364474
The models look like hot garbage, ruining everything else.

>>5365070
I think Essel is a fan, considering Back to Saturn X.

>>5363910
Other than the normal thrash/metal, I put on old fighting game music. Pure fucking magic I tell you.

>>5363332

>>5365382
>fireblu-ray
heh

>>5365407

GZDoom 3.7.0 added "NOFRICTION and NOFRICTIONBOUNCE flags", but they don't seem to be on the wiki.

>>5365382
>that one maid bot

>>5365382
Wtf is fireblu? I keep seeing this term.

>>5365423
Texture
https://www.google.com/search?q=fireblu&newwindow=1&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNh5jSibbgAhWSG5oKHYkZBTcQ_AUIDigB&biw=1920&bih=1046#imgrc=wH-rdrxjfWarDM:

>>5365414
I'd have added them to the wiki myself, but guess what you can't fucking register a wiki account for some stupid reason

NOFRICTION disables the effects of friction on the actor it's on, including the effects of ice/sludge floors on your speed and the whole "capped speed in water" bullshit. unfortunately, it doesn't do anything about the buoyancy code; there's another pull request on the gzdoom github that'll deal with that (exposes the code that applies gravity/water sinking to zscript, in the form of the function FallAndSink(double gravity, double oldfloorz)).

NOFRICTIONBOUNCE merely disables the behavior where if you collide with a wall fast enough with a higher friction value (higher = slipperier), you bounce off of it rather than just stopping.

>>5365423
A texture.

It's gotten some infamy for the fact that it looks kind of ugly and garish, and for the fact that for video recording and streaming, the bright colors, the spotty pattern, and the blinking, fucking wrecks your bitrate (due to how encoders work), and for as long as it's on screen, your video/stream will look like 2005 era Youtube videos, even if you're recording in like 4k.

>>5364668
By posting here you are obliged to play QUMP.

>>5365424
>>5365429
Is that from the original game or did a modder came up with this?

>>5365442
have you even played doom

>>5365442
Have you actually played Doom?

>>5365447
doom is for DORKS

>>5365442
It's literally in the first game.
E3M6 has it right at the start, how have you not seen it? It's kind of an unforgettable texture.

>>5365450
Then what's your excuse?

>>5365326
>Back to Saturn X.
This shit again.

DOOM! Tetris for John ass.

>>5365514
?

>>5365450

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lH7Om52NPq8

>>5365470
You'd be surprised how many people don't go much further than Ep1.

>>5365530
is pillows fursona the only mod that exists nowadays

>>5365567
I'm a little confused at the "unverisal" title here too, I guess it's universal in a reversed sense.

>>5365560
We call those people plebeians.

>>5365572
It means you can play it every monster mod, minus PB and BD ones because they are already in the mod, and every wad exclusive monsters(ex. Valiant).

>>5365567
It's a fun mod, that's all. We don't talk about it that much in these threads.

>>5365530
Cygnis but as a female. And by that I mean an Alternate Universe version of him as a female.

>>5365426
I've seen a few mods make use of NOFRICTION to use their own movement, namely ijon's Quake Movement and Marisa's Doom Tournament. Unfortunately it heavily breaks conveyor belt-style floors. (voodoo doll scripts would be broken too if voodoo dolls get the same physics)

>>5365606

>>5365426
think you can forward one more thing about water physics?
namely: automatic ledge climbing
if you are in deep water of any depth and bump into a wall that has a ledge above it, at any height, you do an upwards hop as long as you are moving against the wall
thing is it doesn't do any other checks
so you'll attempt to hop on to a ledge that is either an impassable line or too high

also the buyoancy is weird when movement is introduced into the mix
you can swim and not sink while being ankle deep without touching the floor if you keep strafing

>>5365608
floor scrolling needs to be exposed to zscript too

>>5365608
what map is this?

>>5365619
... ehhh.

>>5365619
its not furfaggotry if its not faggotry
and only guys can be faggots

>>5365632
Ha!
gay

>>5365560
I'll always assume this is why some people don't consider Doom's Hell iconic or interesting until they think Doom 4 had that muchof an interesting art direction

>>5365636
if its a gal its fine

>>5365619
Why do anthro-dragons have mammaries?
Egg-laying species don't have them

>>5365642
They could be sacs, I guess.

>>5365642
> why does fictional thing

>>5365648
proper fictional things tend to have certain basis behind them, even if it's just in-universe explanation.
If they are "just because" that means it's a lazy trash fiction

>>5365652
It doesn't, actually.

>>5364029
YES YES YES

>>5365652
> humanoid myth lizard

>>5365642
For degenerates to fap to.

>>5365629
Epic MAP04

>>5365652
perhaps she's technically a mammal that just has a reptilian appearance?

>>5365608
I need to stop forgetting to check if Carry/Wind stuff can be exposed to ZScript.

>>5365642
Platypuses.

>>5363952
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g62io1gnm4k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xap3w_xP8CY

or just their entire discography on random

>>5365514
What?

Used Nashgore along with Bratwurst.
Basically the spectre Pinky is replaced with a ghost from Spear of Destiny and the blood is....yeah.

>>5365723
> the furry mod
> white stains
youre trying make a statement here arent you

>>5365731
what?

>>5365731
The fuck?!

>>5365731
I have to say, anyone who can blow a load so powerful it leaves a puddle that big, I have to respect them a little.

>>5365743

>>5365723
ectoplasm

>>5365514
What's wrong with Back to Saturn X?

Hot take:

QUAKE's soundtrack is relatively...boring. There are only a few hype songs in the track list, and only a few good ambient tracks. The others just feel like repetitive drone, and they get reused a lot for all the episodes.

Russians are porting Doom to Half-Life engine (actually it's Xash3D which is basically opensource version of goldsrc). Just checked it. Only levels are ported (through conversion), there's no monsters, weapons and any objects yet.

>>5365814
I'll actually agree on that.
The menu theme is baller as fuck, but there's nothing else in the game which sounds like that, which is a shame.

Great game, but it really could have used the more varied mix of tracks that Doom had, where you had some themes suited for fast actions, and then some slower melodic themes to build atmosphere.

>have everything planned out to make Doom into a top-down shooter
>have no experience with Zscript
this is gonna take a while

>>5365818
But why?
What's with russians and their obsession with trying to "update" doom?

>>5365818
> half-life
> quake hud and font

>>5365825
Dunno. I checked the discussion and author told he does it "because he wants it for himself". You can download it here https://cs-mapping.com.ua/forum/showthread.php?t=39170&page=1&pp=20

And translate the discussion.

>>5365840
I think that's coz they already ported Quake (even one mission pack) to Xash3D. They didn't make a Doom hud yet so they simply took it from their Quake port. It's an alpha btw.

>>5365825
Just seems like the usual 'port Doom into a game somehow' stuff to me, like how someone made a KF1 version of E1M1. If it was any 'update' project there'll be the usual hideous textures and models.

Another day with no Sigil news.

if hell-forged wasn't on your radar, it should be now

>>5365735
>>5365736
>>5365743
Did I miss something important??

>>5365917
What's that again?
Also holy shit, nice sprites.

>>5365924
furfags thinking their shit is acceptable

>>5365928
> https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13397
the do-over version of Demon Eclipse

>>5365917
Nice...could use more frames tho

>>5365447
>>5365449
Yeah, in 1994

>>5364531
`unzip -L` is your friend

>>5365924
ebin /v/ trolling, don't worry about it

>>5365825
Russians, in my experience, often come from a standpoint that more real = more better. Almost to a point of morality. 3D is more real than 2.5D so it must be better. They make realistic texture mods for things that have no place being that way. Even their writing is often pessimistic or dark because it's unrealistic for a dangerous or adventurous situation to end well.
That's just what I gleam from them though. Any Russians lemme know what's up.

>>5365964
>Russian doom remake
>Doomguy gets impaled by Satan himself at the end of Episode 1 and his soul is forced to watch Daisy get killed and revived over and over again in hell with no hope of eacape because lol what did you expect of a human going up against demons

>>5365908
are you going to post this every day until romero meets your made-up deadline

>>5365964
We Russians are straightforward and down-to-earth people. We understand that life is short and full of suffering, so we try to cut as much BS as possible. This is reflected in how we think, speak and act. You can observe it in our literature and art as well.

>>5365986
>https://www.romerogames.ie/sigil/
>The free megawad will be released in mid- February 2019
He's two days off being technically correct, Romero isn't known for releasing on time anyways.

>>5366000
>two days off being technically correct
mid february is any time between february 2nd to february 27th

i, for one, look forward to people posting angrily en masse when it turns valentine's day and romero hasn't posted something

what if one of them randomizer mods has a rare drop from an enemy that is one of them floating runes
except its a sigil
and picking it up will warp you into the sigil map set

>>5366043
>Guy releasing something free of charge
>REEEEEEEE WHERE IS IT WHY ISNT IT OUT YET

Why are people like this?

>>5365931
Anon simply put an image where the ectoplasm looked like jizz, nothing more

Do you think they should make a Remaster for Turok 3?

>>5365994
That hurts me greatly. I realize that all the cultures in our world balance themselves in their own ways and we all have to deal, but what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart? Is there a place left for idealistic dreams? Do you think the suffering can stop if you try hard enough?

What if... There was a triple-barreled shotgun... But the third barrel was pointed backwards?
So that when you shoot demons in front of you, you also shot demons behind you?

>>5366092
Sure but you're still leaving two cardinal directions wide open with that design. What if you get flanked?

>>5366092
bro! double chainsaw!

I'm making a neural upscale pack for Brutal Doom.

>>5365652
I think there is like a universally accepted headcanon (or rather several of them) for why some lizards in various fiction have boobs or at least chest "sacks"
It can be as simple as Sexual Dimorphism. Like, even if they don't have functional uses for tits, they still look curvy and attractive to males.
Or maybe, if it's an amphibian, those can be air sacks, and females just choose they have their sacks poofed up when on land simply as a preference, or even to give to give the more humanoid species an easier way to differentiate between genders of the scalies.

>>5365964
Ehh, not all Russians, come on. There are plenty of comrades that embraced 2D

> pessimistic or dark
Well, I mean, Russians still vividly remember the post-soviet times.
While American 90s were the time Radical things and videogames and skateboards,
for Russian it was "the Wild 90s" with gangsters, gopniks, lots of cities being essentially ghetto, russian mafias and "roofs", and also problems with money and food. The only Vidiya they had were Dendy (a chinese NES) and DOS/PC.

>>5366089
> what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart?
Our lord and savior Putin (sorry, i couldn't resist)

>>5366067
Yes! Real pc release of Turok 3 would be neat.

>>5365994
>We Russians are straightforward and down-to-earth people
so is that why you all mostly make urban doom maps?

>>5366092
But... But... What if... There was also a fourth barrel looking to right of the gun, so you would also shoot right?
But left. Because you are to the left. And you don't want to shoot yourself, you're not crazy.

>>5366176
Bless them for that. Lainos makes some of the best urban maps there is for Doom.

>>5366176
Isn't that mostly just Lainos? And maybe also his fellow clansmen?

Why did the captcha suddenly start giving me lots of parking clocks?

>>5366179
Might as well just have a ring of shotguns all the way around you.

>>5366175
autist

>>5366179
Oh! Oh! And what about an upgrade that puts barrels on your shoes, so you shoot every time you take a step?! So you can just run at demons and they just die!!!

>>5365964
Just another vasyanstvo, ignore and move on, have a nice day.

>>5366196
Yo dawgs, here's another one! So we take a shotgun. And in front of the barrel we hang a tiny immortal harmless demon. So that you would shoot demons while shooting a demon.
And then we give him a tiny shotgun so you would shoot demons while shooting a demon who also shoots at demons!!!!

>>5366194
You're just jelly you can't linedef art.

Tell me about the moment when you "met" Doom. It was 97, and I was 9 years old. I got one those cds which had shitload of shareware games on them. One of them was Doom 95 with Doom's first episode. Holy shit, I fell in love the game. I propably completed the first episode for dozens of times. I also found the full version on local store, but my parents wouldn't buy it for me, because they thought that it wouldn't be suitable for kids. Year later I found Doom 2 on same store, and dad bought it for me. For some reason I wasn't as excited as I thought I would be. I still completed the game, and thought that it was a good game, but just a good game. Propably another year later I stumbled upon the whole full version of Ultimate Doom on some abandonware website. And fuck, my life felt complete. I absolutely enjoyed all the 3 new episodes, that I got to play for first time. I remembered why I enjoyed the shareware episode in first place. Wasn't long from there till I found Boom, and all the fan-made pwads, and from there on I learned to saw the greatness in Doom 2. Now that I think of it, no other game has been that much a part of my life.

>>5366237
It was in 2005 when I got my first internet connection. My PC was very weak (Win98, 4 GB HDD, 64 MB RAM), so I could only play old games like Blood, Duke Nukem 3D. I didn't like Doom when I first saw it, because resolution was too low (I played DOS version), also I hated sounds and three frames animations, I think that's because my first game was Blood which was newer and I played it I guess in 2000. I only started enjoing Doom when I got ZDoom and a few mods for it. So I completed Doom for a first time with Doom 3 sounds/weapons mod. Later I downloaded ZDaemon and played deathmatch/duels on maps like brit10, brit11, dwango5 map01, many others.

>>5366154
>not all Russians, come on
Hence, "often".

Cheer up buttercup. It's not all bad.
Maybe someday the good guys will win.

Mouse aim is one thing but was WASD movement and ALWAYS RUN always a thing in Doom or any official version of it?
I think the Doomwiki mentioned the configuration file letting you strafe with individual keys for left and right and continuous running.
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Configuration_file

>>5366276
I don't remember, could you make your own binds in the original .exe? I haven't touched it in like 15 years.

>>5366276
i think that became a thing when sourceports came on the scene cuz back then movement was limited to the arrow keys & you had to hold shift for sprint

>>5363879
https://twitter.com/nukeykt/status/1095422953334857728

Doomguy is actually russian.

>>5366408
How does it compare to BloodGDX?

>>5366426
Yes he's russian. But it's another guy. This one.

Do not worry children. I have returned.

>>5366276
>>5366287
>>5366290
Never played the original on real DOS hardware but you can on DOSBox if you run SETUP.EXE, so I imagine you could on the original.

Not shown in >pic related, the fact that my current controller configuration is set to "Keyboard and Mouse."

>>5366428
i don't know, I need to test it.

One anon proofed that Doom ambient "music" takes to experience or talent, just slow distorted farts n bells.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1TdKk10jf5PE_TDYx-HBzyGKVprUmbl0l

Purple Archie and white Manc infighting.

>>5366483

>>5366473
>That PSX soundtrack that everyone says is scary but it's just some mid-90s radio jackass saying "10-81" slowed down over and over.

>>5366290
All wrong.

>>5366473
>>5366492
>slavshits in thread
>thread quality drops sharply

What a coincidence.

>>5366492
Is it a common thing for songs to be ruined once you read what the distorted voices are actually saying?
>think background radio chatter is some leet military shit
>it's one of the musicians talking about beer

Hello /vr/. I have a fuckton of Quake maps sitting in my hard drive ready to play. Give me some good tunes to listen to while blasting through them please.

>>5366515
the crow soundtrack

>>5366515
The Quake soundtrack, you stupid fucker.

>>5366518
see
>>5365814
>>5365820
fucker

>>5366473
see, this doesn't work because there's no sound effects that stand out to break from the monotone buzz, and when the bells do come in they just sound really out of place and ruin the atmosphere. it's literally to the same effect as recording sounds from a blender and a printer, mixing both until they vaguely resemble a coherent beat and claim it's EDM, or singing from my low register and claiming I'm a soprano. everything can be oversimplified if you try hard enough.

I don't know what this is meant to serve as proof of, it just sounds really garish and goofy by any standard. but uh, I guess that was the goal?

>>5366521
Go fuck yourself, asshole. The map maker chose the song that plays in the map for whatever reason and by muting or replacing it you're pissing on a specific design choice. Why not load up some 2048px texture replacements, turn on superhyper dynabloom overlighting, and add in some Brutal Quake weapons while you're at it, you cockbreathing fuckwad?

>>5366532
how about calm the fuck down & go eat some tide pods or something

>>5366532

>>5366532

>>5366497
They really should fuck off back to their own boards, they don't belong here.

>>5366539
>>5366540
>>5366541
doombabbies triggered as FUCK
>bbbbut i can't play without 17 mods!

>>5366532
Anon, you can't tell me with a straight face that a total of like 11 fucking tracks reused throughout hundreds of Quake maps doesn't get repetitive.

At least many WADs for Doom include their own MIDIs, most Quake ones don't, they just reuse REALLY EXCITING SHIT like this

https://youtu.be/d-94T9Lb1FU

Come on bruv.

>>5366237
I can relate to your story a lot, though I'm a couple of years older. Got the whole full version of Doom1 in 1994, so it was really something new. Had the luck that my father just bought a new 486. I wasn't allowed to play, so it had to happen secretly. "Leave no traces!" I thought to myself! I didn't know how to save a game, so I never created savegames.Best experience ever. The tension was almost unbearable. Today kids would call it "rouge lite", I guess.

>>5366551
quake isn't a full-time exciting game
slow down for once you ADHD riddled tard, before you start bitching about bullet sponges and super shitguns

>>5366549

>>5366549
>make a game so that people can mod it
>people shouldn't mod it

>>5366408
Took this for a spin, and it actually works pretty good. Up until I got squashed by a door. Then my will to live faded.

>>5366473
This belongs to a dark map with gore textures

>>5366556
Anon, you're being purposefully dense aren't you. DOOM 1/2 have a fuckton of original tracks that only get reused two or three maps, if that. Quake has like 11 that it has to use to cover 4 episodes + most fan-made maps. You really don't think this is a problem? You'll listen to the 11 tracks merrily forever? At that point it's not the mappers' choice to put that song there, it's basically filling a checklist. It contributes next to nothing to their artistic vision for that map.

The Quake soundtrack is okay for your first playthrough of the game, but on a repeat playthrough or playing fan-made maps, it gets tedious.

>>5366564
Just stop responding to the shitter.

>>5366561
That's just the build engine, swinging doors are dangerous and should be handled with caution.

>>5366562
Hot.

>>5366570
not an argument

>>5366564
it's ambience
doom's music is also largely shit

>>5366576
Aubrey Hodge pls go

>>5366473
STOP REPOSTING MY SHIT

>>5366576
UberPleb

>>5366576
(you)

>>5366562
>vore

>>5366237
1996, my dad brought home one of those shareware collection cds that came in pc mags. Had a crapload of dos game demos. Doom, Heretic, Hexen, Strife, Quake, and many others. I didn't get the full registered version until eleven years later.

So is NBlood more accurate than BloodGDX?

>>5366497
nah, see >>5366452
s'arais' ban wore off again, and you know he can't go long without announcing himself and shitting on everything else involved

really wish he'd just be perma'd already

>>5366630
Not just (((him))), going by other posts on the thread.

>>5366628
visually yes. gameplay no.

>>5366556
quake's music was arranged with its visuals in mind. its aesthetics complimented it, the game for all it's worth could've shipped with the title track in permanent loop throughout and it'd work the exact same, except the atmosphere would be gone completely. they only felt like experimenting with ambient music because they were heading into a more 'mature' direction for their game, which they took back immediately with quake 2 and 3. not that quake's bombastic gameplay and mechanics didn't at their own time already.

>>5366632
just let him be whoever he is. the whole board is fully aware of his shitfits by now as he's been engaging people on here at random for the last 5 years completely uninterrupted. it's a sad sight but some people are just failures like that.

>>5366638
quake 2 has a lot more problems than just its soundtrack

>>5366645
I wouldn't call the soundtrack one of Quake 2's problems, that part is pretty good.

Just finished compiling my 1.5 GB neural upscale pack for Brutal Doom, however I'm prety sure something is fucked up.

>>5366645
I don't think he was calling it a problem.

>>5366650
applebees?

>>5366650

it doesn't look like much yes, still some glitches, but it's texture mapping on a fucking motorola 68000.

>>5366650
well worth the effort...

>>5366683
It's not that it's impossible, others tried it, but with something so slow as the MD 68k...it's probably unbearably slow. Congratulations, anon. I admire your dedication.

>>5366659
Shit slutters sometimes. Maybe I shouldn't had upscaled anything other than monsters and weapons. I just copied all images from Brutal Doom pk3 and loaded into Topaz A.I. Gigapixel and then copied upscaled images to hires folder.

>>5366645
>q2 soundtrack
>bad
i know you're a nigger, but goddamn if you're not going full retard

>>5366650
why do you want castor oil on your vasoline?

Reposting the MetaDoom thing.
https://pastebin.com/S3rBFNjH

>>5366709
Yes but somehow it hasn't hurt the framerate much at all. This means it's likely bottlenecked in the transformation and clipping parts of the engine (which are unoptimized C). That's really good news.

>>5366683
Hell yes.

So incase a boss enemy needed more firepower

>>5366754
Don't know what the fuck im looking at but those are some cool effects

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhxi39zcqJI

>>5366781

wwwhhhhhhpppshhhhshshhhhlllllshsllllslshsshlllll

>>5366879
doom but we used the edge detect filter on everything

>>5366881
filters are not an argument

>>5366902
Yes they are.

Filters are good. They hide the artifacts caused by neural upscale, so the picture looks solid

>>5366473
Hey, I only posted DANNY WON in the last thread because it's a hilarious example of sped up music, and it's literally the only thing I associate the PSX version with. Don't drag me into your weird ambient music hatred, I actually blame you guys for it since that's how I found it years ago.

>>5366919
hating filters is a forced meme

>>5366921
DANNY WON
DA-
DANNY
DANNY WO-
DAN-
DANNNYYYY WOOOOOON
A
N
N
Y

W
O
N
HEY

>>5367030
pong clack

>>5365917
That's a fucking gorgeous sprite holy shit

>>5365917
is he supposed to be flying that last frame

>>5366919
>>5367026
???

>>5367030
Heeey!

>>5367071
That's probably a charge attack with the horns just like Heretic Maulotaurs do.

h e y

>>5367026
nope

You know what I like most about Doom 64/PSX's soundtrack?
DANNY WON! heeeey

>>5366428
For starters, It's not coded in a programming language that's riddled with security vulnerabilities.

>>5367129
do that to the Quake soundtrack THEN lie to yourselves. fuvk u danny glover

>>5367036
clonk
clack
clonk clink klack
KLOK

>>5367101
h-hewwo...? owo

>>5367140
reminds me of these fuckers

>>5367132
Would I expect to get hacked playing Blood in SP?

>>5367132
that doesn't mean it's good

What is your favorite map from Arcane Dimensions?

>>5367207
sepulcher is the most impressive, but i've thus far found obd to be the most fun to actually play

>>5367151
Having Java installed on your system is like bending over in a San Francisco bar and hoping to not get aids.

>>5366650
why are we still here
just to suffer?

>>5367257
>>>/g/

>>5366879
>>5366721
>>5366650
>>5366919
Sorry, but this honestly looks like hot garbage. Just because you can doesn't always mean you should.

Is there any way to put in tracks for each individual level in Quake?

>>5367283
b-b-but the resolution is higher! that means it's better!

>>5363910
>>5365070
>>5365326
Greatest band of all time
>>5365514
zoomer detected

>>5367293
if i'm remembering correctly the track selection is in the map itself

>>5367283
I know. That's because I upscaled it only once 4x. But I should've upscaled it 8x and then downscaled to 2x.

>>5366089
>what brings ease, peace and hope to a disillusioned Russian heart
the fact that western gov's push for WW3 with Russia, so it all soon be over, most probably for everyone

>>5367301
It is, track number is part of the worldspawn entity.

>>5366237
I actually "met" with Doom several times.
1st in '95 when it came preinstalled along Heretic on a fresh PC my dad bought. This was my first IBM PC (previously only had Spectrum). I loved both games, but Heretic had more impact on me.
But then Quake and Duke came out, then Unreal, and for a while Unreal '98 was my most favourite game ever.
I don't remember how I discovered Doom Legacy, but I did it around 2001 and played through original wads and final doom with my sister in split-screen. Then it was abandoned once more. At the time I didn't realize that Doom had a modding/mapping community at all.
Around 2008 or so I read about jHeretic (Doomsday) on some site and that reignited the heretic spark in me- I got all the high-res pack and played through Heretic, Hexen and Doom extensively. I hated 3D models and simply cut them out of the DHTP archives, leaving all the other "bling" intact.
I am ashamed to say, but it was Brutal Doom that opened Doom modding for me - an article on some site about v18 of the mod introduced me back to Doom and GZDoom in particular. Then I found ZDoom forums, and realised that there were fuckton of mods and maps that I missed out. Since that moment there was no way back.

Has Doomguy ever thought about turning the shotgun sideways to hit tall skinny enemies with more pellets?

Wow, I love this detail of the snow being thawed by the torches.
Also, I haven't encountered any bad enemy spam like some anons warned. There's been enemy spam, but it's all popcorn enemies with a few tougher enemies for support, which I actually quite like (as opposed to hordes of bullet spongey enemies).

>>5366645
Q2 has many problems but soundtrack isn't one of them

>>5367380
>cleartype'd font in the hud
WHY

>>5367026
Plenty of people genuinely dislike filters, though.

>>5366650
this looks like a bad trip

>>5366276
WASD simply wasn't the default controls. You can use setup.exe to change controls.
Always Run was also possible, albeit in an unintended way, by setting joyb_speed to a much higher value.

>>5363879
>BTSX EP 3
STILL WAITING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdaZTv9NCDw

>>5367394
it's still a really shitty thing to complain about

>>5366650
Truly this is... Hell on Earth.

>>5367469
it is never wrong to educate people who have no taste

>>5367528
or people who don't know better because GZDoom defaults.

>>5365606
>wanting this pure beefcake in female
heresy

>>5365423
There's a map pack you should check out

It's called Fifty Shades of Graytall

>>5367418
I swear to god, If E3 doesn't come out this year, I'm going to scream.

>>5367590
I swear to god, if E3 does come out this year, I'm going to cream.

needs a ton of work but this is what i have so far

>>5367590
>December 31, 2019
>"3! 2! 1! Happy New-"
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3JobtTbojg

>>5367559
>not wanting a beefcake female
extreme heresy

>>5367620
Is that a real texture, or some mathmatical trickery?

>>5367626
it's a real (shitty) texture, the grey in the background is also a texture, but it's just small enough to not show any details

>>5367629
What texture size/color depth limits do you have?

>>5367631
the display is only 160 pixels high so i'll probably just leave it at 128x128 max, this is 64x64.

The whole thing is using a single 16-color palette, and there's not much I can do to get around that.
Maybe different map segments could use a different palette, but only if I can ensure areas using another palette are completely invisible.

>>5367641
>>Maybe different map segments could use a different palette, but only if I can ensure areas using another palette are completely invisible.
You would need to keep some colors between the palettes to bridge them wouldn't you?
Which 16 colors are you using? Curious to see what would be possible texture wise.

>>5367643
> You would need to keep some colors between the palettes to bridge them wouldn't you?

oh yeah, then that probably won't work.

> Which 16 colors are you using? Curious to see what would be possible texture wise.

actually it's 15 colors, forgot that color 0 is transparent. I wouldn't go by what I picked, I didn't put a ton of thought into it.

https://segaretro.org/Sega_Mega_Drive/Palettes_and_CRAM
You can pick any 15 colors out of 9-bit rgb.

>>5367652
It's pretty fun to work in those constraints.
Definitely takes quite a bit of consideration. Would be best to pick 2 color tones per map and just stick with them I'd think. Plus maybe 4 colors for weapon sprites? I don't even know how you do the shading on the walls. P cool.

pic related is just 32x32, so pretty small. Kinda looks like it could be in the industrial zone in sonic.

>>5367531
>>5367528
or people complaining about filters as if it actually mattered and there wasn't things more worth complaining about

>>5367714
you are not the arbiter of what's worth complaining about
maybe it's not worth complaining about complaining about filters

Anyone know what this weapon/statusbar is from?

>>5366665

check em

>>5367724
Maybe it's not worth complaining about complaining about complaining about filters

>>5367707
I might be able to use the hardware's sprites and the other hardware background for the player's gun as well as the HUD.

>>5367725
final doomer

Are there any wads besides Doom 64 EX, that need specifically tailored source port to be played? Just asking out of interest.

why mod doom when you could mod Quake?