/vr/ - Retro Games

Simply put, if you didn't grow up during the 4th gen AND being a Segatendor idort, you didn't have a real childhood.

>>5358540
>Can we have this thread without fanboy shit?

>now the genesis?
>two games
>and thats that

>>5358545
can you add anything to the list that is not demage controll?

>>5358540
>Even though snes have way better specs
l o l

>>5358551
>color
>snes 32,768 (256 simultaneous)
>genesis 512 (64 simultaneous)

>sprite size
>snes 64x64 (128 simultaneous)
>genesis 32x32 (80 simultaneous)

>resolution
>snes 512×448
>genesis 320×224

and the list goes on and one with nitendo winning

>>5358540
>now the genesis?
>>quack shot
>>Mortal Kombat 1 with blood
>and thats that.
-Shinobi series
-Comix Zone
-Hard Corps
-Shining Force 1&2
-Ristar
-Dynamite Headdy
-Gunstar Heroes
-Bloodlines
-Alisia Dragoon
-Castle of Illusion
-RKA
-Beyond Oasis
-Sonic Series
-Mutant League Football & Hockey
Etc etc etc etc

>>5358558
-VDP resolution is 320x224 (40 tile columns), while PPU is 256x224 (32 tile columns)
-VDP can handle sprites of any shape, PPU *must* use square shaped sprites
-VDP can handle any combination of sprite sizes on screen, PPU can only handle two sprite sizes on screen at once
-VDP can do column scrolling in any mode, PPU must enter into special column scrolling modes to do it (which have less support for other features)
-VDP can modify its own scroll registers from VRAM data, PPU requires DMA (which halts the CPU) to have its scroll registers changed
-VDP can do some DMA operations without halting the main CPU (like VRAM copying), PPU always halts the SNES CPU with every DMA operation
-VDP officially supports active scan DMA, PPU doesn't
-VDP officially supports VRAM and sprite attribute memory (OAM) modification on HBLANK (per scanline), PPU doesn't, only on VBLANK (per frame) unless it is entirely halted mid-screen
-VDP uses efficient packed pixel graphical format while PPU uses inefficient bitplane format
-VDP can access as much sprite data as can fit in VRAM (up to 64 KB) as flexibly required, PPU can access only 16 KB of sprite data it’s a hard limit

And this is just the PPU v VDP. There's also the matter of Sega's faster CPU, faster RAM, faster VRAM, faster cartridge read speed, and the fact that the co-processor Z80 has direct access to ROM space while the equivalent in the SNES (a 6502 in the sound module) can't directly access anything outside of audio RAM.

>>5358540
personally gonna have to chip in with the SNES on this

graphics and sound seemed much better on the SNES
and my favorite game of all time was on the SNES as well

>Quack Shot
Game sucks

>>5358572
Now there's some good games. Here's more:

-Thunder Force III & IV
-Elemental Master
-MUSHA
-Alisia Dragoon
-Streets of Rage series
-Phantasy Star series

I'm not even going into hidden gems territory here. The Genesis is easily on par with the SNES, and honestly I prefer it.

>>5358576
did you manually wrote all that? lol sega widows have no life... much like sega, cause it died in 2001.

This will probably start shit, but I just cannot understand anyone who favors the SNES's sound to the Genesis's.

>>5358582
of the top 30 genesis games, the only ones i got to play and also enjoy were sonic, sonic 2, and altered beast

there were a few other games i liked, like phantasy star, golden axe, and contra
but it seems like all the good games on genesis were a little obscure

>>5358585
They both have their place if you ask me. Seiken Densetsu 3's soundtrack is beautiful but so is Shadow Dancer's.

>>5358585
it's easy to like snes sound better when genesis sound is ass.

>>5358585
my favorite 16-bit themes were all from the SNES
terras theme, LttP overworld, LttP darkworld, super metroid theme, storm eagle, and SMW athlethic theme

>>5358540
It literally has an arcade perfect port of Puyo Puyo Tsu. Also, The genesis soundtrack not only sounds better but is super accurate.

Tell me which soundtrack sounds better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtz1_VAMYns
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdRhG5Tigkk

I'm gonna say it:

*ahem*

Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition on Genesis is superior to Street Fighter II Turbo for SNES, ESPECIALLY in the soundtrack. SNES controllers don't even have six face buttons lmao

>Can we have this thread without fanboy shit?
>Immediately everyone starts fanboying.
every time

>>5358603
but the 6 button controller is not what comes with the console.
if we are counting things thats doesn't come with the original console, the snes had a 6 face button controller too.
but the dog bone shaped snes controller is just awesome, i highly prefer it over anything on sega.

Even though I favor the SNES library of games, you're a massive fag, OP.
These >>5358572 >>5358581 , also Toe Jam and Earl is chill as fuck.

>>5358609
we can blame the sega widows for that

>>5358540
Console wars are for chavs and poorfags who desperately defend their acquisitions.

I are missing out if you are a fanfag. Also life is too short to get mad over video games.

>>5358613
Depends on what console you got. Six-button Genesis has a waaay better dpad than stock SNES pad.

genesis was my first video game, i played a lot of golden axe and street rage 2, but i couldnt stand sonic, and it didnt help that the school kids who played sonic were complete autists.

>>5358597
My central issue is that SNES soundtracks are just so...cartoony on average. Even in the cases where (as far as I can tell), the goal isn't a cartoony sound, it's exactly what happens. Sometimes it works out obviously, as with SMW Athletic. And sometimes it works surprisingly -- my favorite would be SMW's Castle theme.

But I always felt that the Genesis could generate real(-ish) music in a way the SNES couldn't. A lot of my favorite tracks from Genesis games are vibrant in ways that I've just not heard in SNES games: Spring Yard Zone, Flying Battery Zone, Streets of Rage's Violent Breathing, SoR2's Dreamer, a crap ton of The Adventure of Batman and Robin's soundtrack (with my favorite Moving Trucks). And at least sometimes, the Genesis could do cartoony sounds exceedingly well -- Mickey Mania (despite being a bad game, IMO) sounds beautiful.

The real-ish versus cartoony sound is a big reason why >>5358603 is true, at least with the soundtracks. I think some really talented people worked well in the SNES's limits, which is why people rate the SNES's sound so highly -- but the Genesis just had better sound capabilities, IMO.

>>5358676
>Genesis could generate real(-ish) music in a way the SNES couldn't
You're a huge fagit.
just compare the sound on rock&roll racing, genesis not only is GARBAGE but the music stops when the narrator talks.

also
>killer instinct
that's the game were video game music started sounding like real music, there isnt anything even close to that on sega.

>>5358683
>there isnt anything even close to that on sega.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG1c2U4ld2Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DXTDo1vVQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAUMqb-ssGs

>>5358683
>muh "real" music
Genesis could do that years before KI was released, moron.

>>5358703
>life support
hahahahaahaha

>>5358540
90% of multiplats were better on the gen

>>5358683
>generic 90's club music
>real music

I had both growing up. I prefer the snes but the genesis was 10 out of 10. For sure the best console war in history with 2 of the greatest libraries of all time.

>>5358789
>90s
>not the best music
you need to be over 18 to post here

>>5358825
>conveniently ignores the words "generic" and "club"
apparently you don't have to not be a dense faggot to post here either

and by the way sweetie, the only people who like 90's music are underage

I had a sega, and later a 32x. I liked many games on both the SNES and Sega. I think that was the last console war I was involved in, as I moved to PC around the time the next gen came out. Both were good for their exclusives.

>>5358853
>the only people who like 90's music are underage
you need to be over 18 to post here

>>5358861
>32x
>good
topkek

Yeah I gotta admit, just got a Sega flashcart but I still wanna put the Genesis away and go back to my other consoles. Maybe because Sega games are generally hard as fuck and I can't beat them
What are some baby mode casual games I might like? my first console was a super nintendo, and I can't handle Genesis or NES difficulty

>>5358540
I owned an SNES as a kid, but was still envious of Genesis owners. Never really got into the console pride thing.

>>5358889
>I can't handle Genesis or NES difficulty
Damn man. Try Ristar, Rocket Knight Adventures, Castle of Illusion, World of Illusion and Pulseman. All Super Mario World-level difficulty and all good games.

>>5358558
>>resolution
>>snes 512×448
>>genesis 320×224
SNES games don't typically run at that resolution. That's a limited-color mode used primarily for menus or text-only screens. The vast majority of SNES games run at 256x224 during actual gameplay.

>>5358540
Holy shit you're stupid.

>>5358540
> can we have a vs thread without fanboyism
>vs thread
>vs

Anyone who would limit themselves to either console is a fanboy by deffinition. Both systems are awesome with awesome games, only a fool would think they need to choose one over the other.

I liked both consoles
The 16 bit era was Nintendo and sega at their best.

Why no mention of road rash 2 in this thread?

>>5359064
>I liked both consoles

Congrats on not being an idiot fanboy!

>>5358540
If you're a big fan of RPGs, then the SNES would be better. But the Genesis ran arcade and action games faster and smoother, so if you're a fan of those then it would be better.

TurboGrafx was here.

SNES and Genesis are for losers.

>>5359102
Bomberman and shmups: the console

>>5359076
SNES deffinitely has quantity, but any RPG fan who passes up Phantasy Star 4 is severely missing out.
The only real answer is both.

>>5358581
>>Quack Shot
>Game sucks
Them fightin' words fren

>>5358540
There are around 150 genesis games worth playing, just a tiny bit more than what youve listed.

Im generally neutral; but have played way less snes games. One thing I must say, the snes has the worst sounding music of its era holy shit. Fm is superior and the amiga shows how sampled music really is done.

>>5358676
Based. The sakimoto funk of crude buster, the house beats of Sor, the synth melodies of dragon slayer, the space disco of gunstar heroes, the insane near polyphonic melodies of dyna brothers, the almost rock in opposition qualities of biohazard battle, the traditional metal riffs of dungeons and dragons, the fusion funk of hybrid front and of course the smooth fusion of outrun. I could go on and on about how awesome genesis osts are.

>>5358789
90s house is still the best edm pleb

>>5358683
Yeah how about we use a Tim Follin arranged ost to base the entire genesis vs snes music argument like totally wont skew things.
>real music
Haha snes music aged the worst of any retro console. Its stuck in that transitional period between superior cd addon vgm osts and traditional wavelength modulated music. Meanwhile the genesis fm and fm systems in general (like the x68000) retain charm in being an unique bygone style of electronic music.

>>5358867
you need to be under 30 to post on 4chan or you really should just kill yourself

>>5359334
>90s house is still the best edm pleb
awful taste

>>5358576
>VDP can handle sprites of any shape, PPU *must* use square shaped sprites

I was always under the impression that all consoles used sprites made up from numerous 8*8 tiles, you're saying the Genesis doesn't?

>>5358919
>SNES games don't typically run at that resolution. That's a limited-color mode used primarily for menus or text-only screens. The vast majority of SNES games run at 256x224 during actual gameplay.

The SNES's 512x448 was only ever used in a small handfull of games. The first game to use it was RPM Racing, developed by Silicon & Synapse who are known known as Blizzard.

The 512x448 mode is incredibly limited as it can only display a total of 16 colours. In RPM Racing, it was used as the background layer, while the sprite and HUD layers used the SNES's 256x224 mode. Silicon & Synapse's second racing game Rock and Roll Racing used the 256x224 mode only.

In other cases, the 512x448 graphics mode would be used for text menus in some Japanese RPGs, and I think there is a Kirby game that uses the high resolution mode for a shadow layer to create some neat effects.

>>5359408
Bet you wouldn't be able to casually list some fire snes soundtracks like I just did.

Also don't tell me you actually like post 90s edm you absolute zoomer faggot. If the opposites the case and you think edm in general is shit, hot damn, I'll bet its not like you have good tastes in other genres either.

>>5358540
Both systems have pretty unique meaty libraries of good games making them both worthwhile. I generally tend to prefer the SNES, but it's all a mater of taste, and I could swing the other way depending on the day and what I'm in the mood for.

>>5359448
True neutral opinion. Nice.

>>5359456
>prefer SNES

Both systems Had their strengths
.
The only bitter people only owned one system during the 16 bit era

Plus Nintendo pumped out a cheap SNES 2 for under a 100 it's why most sega people had both.

While the SNES crowd went to pc gaming before tomb raider became a hit on ps1 and everyone got a ps1.

>>5359456
If someone got to experience both systems games they would like them both and really appreciate 16 bit games.

>>5359459
Hes reasonable about it; as in not denying the genesis' catalog of games just because of console wars faggotry. Personally Megadrive games ran faster and played smoother for me than the Snes though that may have something to do with playing real hardware Megadrive whilst only emulating Snes.
Also, Genesis music kicks ass.

>>5358582
I prefer SNES, but posts like your make us all look like idiots

>>5359463
Playing super punch out on a real SNES is such a fun experience
Gives the same fun as playing streets of rage on a real genesis.

>>5359448
You're alright.

>>5358540
((you))

>>5358889
How embarassing.

>>5359298
The amiga was a tech demo "console"

>>5360060
Its a pc that did tech demos; and normal pc things.

>>5358540
>start a fanboy shit thread
>ask if we can have it without fanboy shit

okay.

I still have both consoles to this day, and i gotta say that super nintendo impresses me more. i don't know about specs or anything, but c'mon, you can't beat donkey kong, mario, metroid or zelda. If i had to choose only one, would be the snes, even though i enjoy altered beast and phelios a lot.

>>5359420
>I was always under the impression that all consoles used sprites made up from numerous 8*8 tiles, you're saying the Genesis doesn't?

I haven't looked much into it, but I believe that they both support tile list sprites, ie. you set up a sprite that is a link to tiles. There might be a hard limit to how many tiles you can set up that way.

If it works that way, then non-square sprite support means that on one console, you can only set 1 global size for that large sprite, new "rows" of tiles are made at fixed intervals. While on the other, you could add arbitrary amount of new line markers.

No idea if this is how the two systems work, but it's how I'd design them.

>>5358585
>I just cannot understand anyone who favors the SNES's sound to the Genesis's.

They are emulator babies. Genesis sound emulation is still inaccurate even in 2019.

>>5360173
Keep telling yourself that lol.

>>5359420
There’s a difference between background tiles and sprites.

The SNES sprite engine has all sorts of majorly annoying limitations that the Mega Drive doesn’t have. Because of the square shaped sprite and sprite size rules, you often have to use sprites with padded data on SNES.

This means that on SNES you are constantly padding up VRAM with junk data and even running up the sprite line limit with invisible pixels. SNES has a powerful background engine but it’s sprite engine is quite frankly garbage despite its high theoretical limits.

>>5360185
>Keep telling yourself that lol.

You'd be able to tell too, if you'd own a model 1 genesis.

>>5360259
I do. SNES is still better.
https://youtu.be/2JC5eZPrOi0

>>5358613
That’s a pedantic as fuck argument. Would you bring up that same point about the dual shock?

>>5358540
Genesis has Splatterhouse 2 and Splatterhouse 3. Two games that SNES does not have an answer for. Genesis seems like a better system for co-op games.

Plenty of material for this thread:
>Contra 3>Contra: Hard Corps.
>Aladdin: SNES or GEN?
>Jurassic Park SNES or GEN?
>Zombies Ate My Neighbors: SNES>GEN.

Why do /v/ tards need to mask every single recommendation thread as console war bullshit? Just fucking ask.

>>5360295
Psssst they're not interested in recommendations, they're just trolling to stir shit up.

>>5360287
but those sequels are very inferior compared to the original splatterhouse on arcade or even the turbogx port.

Because the Genesis had:
>Sonic 1-3
>Puyo Puyo/Mean Bean Machine
>Dune 2: Battle for Arrakis
>Herzog Zwei
>Master of Monsters
>Streets of Rage 1-3
>Revenge of Shinobi/Shinobi III
>Ristar
>MUSHA
>Gunstar Heroes
>Alien Soldier
>Chakan: The Forever Man
>Gauntlet IV
>Shining Force 1/2
>Contra: Hard Corps
>Dinosaurs for Hire
>Ecco the Dolphin
>Starflight

>>5360341
Abysmal list desu.

>>5360287
>Two games that SNES does not have an answer for. Genesis seems like a better system for co-op games.

Here's a list of co-op games that I can come up with:

> Toejam & Earl (two player rouge-like)
> Toejam & Earl: Planet on Funktron (Not as good as the original, but still co-op)
> Streets of Rage series
> Golden Axe series
>TMNT: Hyperstone Heist
> Cadash
> Altered Beast
> Wonder Boy III : Monster Lair
> Gunstar Heroes
> Adventures of Batman and Robin
> Joe and Mac Cavemen Ninjas
> X-Men 2: Clone Wars
> Blades of Vengeance
> Soldier of Fortune
> Forgotten Worlds
> Bio-hazard Battle
> Rolling Thunder 2
> Sunset Riders
> Gauntlet IV
> Crack Down
> Bonanza Bros.
> World of illusion With Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck
> The Lost Vikings

Of course there are the sports games that have it too.

>>5358782
>AVGN

>>5360348

SNES co-op games I can think of...

> Kirby's Super Star
> Contra III: Th Alien Wars
> Super Smash TV
> Legend of the Mystical Ninja
> Pocky and Rocky
> TMNT: Turtles in Time
> Wild Guns
> Sunset Riders
> Kirby's Dreamland 3
> Super Bomberman series (Genesis/ Mega Drive also has Mega Bomberman with co-op)
> Final Fight 2 and 3
> Goof Troop
> The Lost Vikings
> Joe and Mac
> Zombies ate my Neighbors (On Genesis/ MD as well)
> BattleToads Double Dragon: The Ultimate Team (Genesis has a Battle Toads game as well)
> BattleToads
> The Kings of Dragons (underrated Capcom beat em up)

Just a note, the genesis could run FPS games (zero tolerance & bloodshot) w/o any additional hardware..

>>5360403
eat a bowl of fuck, those games are fucking terrible.
snes have doom.

>>5360407
>eat a bowl of fuck, those games are fucking terrible.
>snes have doom.

Doom required the SuperFX2 chip to run.

But it did have a few FPS games that ran without any additional chips in the cartridge. Like Wolfenstein 3D, Super Noah's Arc (which was an unlicensed SNES game that used the Wolf3D engine) , and Faceball 2000, which does have two player co-op and death match. But runs really slow in split screen. There is also the First Person areas in Jurassic Park and Toy Story also has first person segments as well. Though the Genesis version of Toy Story has those segments as well, and run faster.

Genesis/ Mega Drive also has Duke Nukem 3D, which was released in Brazil only and is basically a Wolfenstein 3D clone with the Duke Nukem 3D name. Cyber-Cop/ Corporation from Core and there is a really good homebrew port of Wolfenstein 3D.

Thinking about trading my N64 in for a SNES. Good idea or nah?

>>5360423
you can emulate the snes but not the n64

>>5360432
>can't emulate n64
you just went full mongoloid

>>5360419
>hurr durr chip in cart hurr lelelele snes sucks even though the game doesnt even cost more for that
>let me set up my add-ons 3 add-ons that all require their own power adapter lol sega wins

>>5360501
>the game doesnt even cost more for that
zoom zoom

>>5360504
those games had the same price as any other game released, you actually have down syndrome.

>keklel snes carts have special ships lol what a retarded thing to do XD sega win again joo guise

>>5360501
>>hurr durr chip in cart hurr lelelele snes sucks even though the game doesnt even cost more for that
>>let me set up my add-ons 3 add-ons that all require their own power adapter lol sega wins


I never said anything about the SNES being worse for using additional co-processors in cartridges for some games like Doom. I was just pointing out that Doom used a SuperFX2 chip. I'm not the same person that said "Genesis games can run FPD's without additional chips". There is one Genesis/ MD game with a math co-processor and that is Virtua Racing. But that game cost anywhere from 90-110 dollars at retail.

Sega decided it was best to go with the 32x instead of shoveling chips in their Genesis carts. It was not the greatest of ideas, even though the 32x has a few interesting games for it. I always liked the Sega CD, though. But Sega made that as more of a response to the PCEngine CD ROM.

>>5360508
Are you telling me that Nintendo, out of the kindness of their own hearts, put enhancements chip into their cartridges for *free*? And you're the one accusing others of having down syndrome.

>>5360519
those were cartridges only, not some fucking add-on. you are retarded and should not post here, come back when you're 18.

>>5360517
>best to go with the 32x instead of shoveling chips in their Genesis carts
32x not only was a complete garbage, but overpriced garbaged that died with less than one year.

>snes game so good it needed a better cartridge
>make a better cartridge
>game sold at the same price as any game release
>hurr durrr nintendo shucks lolkek sega win

>>5360523
>those were cartridges only
Right, and cartridge hardware is totally free which is why the N64 had significantly cheaper games than its CD based competitors

>>5360508
>those games had the same price as any other game released, you actually have down syndrome.

Actually SNES games varies in price depending on what was inside them. I remember paying almost $120 Canadian for Final Fantasy 3 on the SNES at retail cost, just because it had 32MB's of ROM and a battery back-up. While most SNES games were priced at 60-70 dollars Canadian. The SuperFX chip games did cost more than standard SNES games.

I had both systems while growing up, and I had more Genesis games than SNES games because new Genesis games were generally cheaper by at least $10.

>>5360528
sega genesis were cheaper because there was no demand for it

>>5360529
Yes it only outsold the SNES in Christmas 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1994

>>5360526
maybe in the shithole you live.
not even when i bought donkey kong 64 i had to pay extra for the expansion pack, wich was a a console upgrade

>>5360531
because it was cheap, it was a nice gift for the kids nobody liked

>>5360536
Are you actually TRYING to make SNES fans look like they have a mental and emotional age of 2?

>>5360539
>shitspawn nobody liked detected

>>5360536
The genesis was expensive when it first came out it didn't drop price until the SNES came out.

Eventually the genesis was 50 dollars cheaper then the SNES.

>>5360557
that just prooved my point, retard.

>>5360517
Sega CD was. Actually good it was out of my price range when released.

Both sega and Nintendo chased the CD-rom market only to find out Its market share was exagerated at the time.

>>5360562
>sega cd
>good
lol

>>5360569
>I can only communicate in e-celeb memes

>>5360562
>Both sega and Nintendo chased the CD-rom market only to find out Its market share was exagerated at the time.

Nintendo backed out of the CD market when they found out that Sony wanted all the royalties for themselves with every game disc sold. Nintendo crated a bullshit partnership with Phillips instead (who was also partly responsible for developing the CD with Sony) which resulted in the CDi and a couple bad licensed Nintendo games for it. Nintendo never made a CD based system. The Gamecube used mini discs based on DVD, without the proprietary DVD formatting so they wouldn't have to pay Sony any royalties.

The Sega CD ROM add-on was pretty expensive. It also did have additional hardware in the machine, like a second Motorola 68000 which ran at 12MHz (Genesis 68000 ran at 7.67MHz), a sprite manipulation engine that could do sprite rotation and scaling as well as mode 7-like 3D playing fields, a Ricoh PCM 8-channel audio chip and extra memory. But the Sega CD discs cost nothing for Sega to print compared to the cost of cartridge manufacturing.

>>5360343
Go take a shit and eat it, SNES fanboy. It's a taste you're well accustomed to, I understand.

>>5360575
>i can't bring anything to the topic so i shitpost
t. sega widow mongoloid

>>5358540
>Can we have this thread without fanboy shit?
>genesis
>quack shot
>Mortal Kombat 1 with blood
>and thats that.
unbelievable bait thread

>>5360557
>The genesis was expensive when it first came out it didn't drop price until the SNES came out.
>Eventually the genesis was 50 dollars cheaper then the SNES.

Well, the Mega Drive launched in 1988 in Japan, the Genesis launched in 1989. The Super Famicom launched in 1990 in japan and 1991 in the US. There was almost a two year gap between these systems. Sega of America basically soft rebooted the Genesis in North America because they knew the SNES would be a major uphill battle for them. They managed to get Sonic The Hedgehog out o the market with a $50 price cut on the Genesis two months before Nintendo could get the SNES to market. It really helped Sega gain a lot of momentum. But their hardware was two years older, they could slash the price on it and did.

I love playing my SNES, feels like I'm underwater

>>5360265
Dragon Slayer and Crusader of Centy is superior Genesis Jrpg music. Kek at basic people thinking their osts are technically superior just cause its a poormans midi tier rendition of orchestral music.

>>5358786
This. Genesis is for superior gaming, SNES is for fanboys of Nintendo.

>>5358540
...OP, I'm REALLY CURIOUS what your definition of "fanboy shit" is.

I know a lot of you Snes folks are unironically into the muh epic orchestral music meme but I'm hoping some of you who care about variety in vgm at least know some gem osts that actually had good arrangements.

Anything as melodic as these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c2qo4tPmo&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lub-gylp69E

really wish these kinds of threads would have an unique string as subject/text, so they could be automagically filtered.

>>5358540
I do agree with you but Genesis has much more than just two good games. If snes was an A+ with its games (just saying here, don't necessarily agree with that) then genesis would be a B- at best, maybe even a C+ with its games imo. Turbografx would be a D.

>sonic 1-3 & knuckles
>sonic spinball
>golden axe 1 and 2
>streets of rage 1-3
>mutant league football
>altered beast
>shadow dancer
>castlevania bloodlines

All great games that I enjoyed. There is more as well. Genesis was a great console. Just not as good as snes but who cares? Why not like both?

>>5360939
cmon man, sonic spinball? wtf
ill give you sonic 1, but 2 and 3 and just plain bad.

>>5360950
This is definitely a bait post.

>>5360764
>Anything as melodic as these?
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8c2qo4tPmo& [Remove]

There are a lot of melodic soundtracks on the Genesis/ Mega Drive to choose from. One of my personal favorites is Midnight Resistance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CJo1yC919s

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lub-gylp69E [Remove]

How about Vapor Trail?:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SupS_1ZnFTA&index=6&list=PL777C83918D01EF44

>>5361015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mxdZz7tGhI&index=3&list=PL777C83918D01EF44

>>5360950
Opinions man. I'm a pretty big Genesis fan and aside from Bloodlines, Spinball is my favorite game he listed there. I can't stand Sonic though and streets/golden axe super dull. Shadow Dancer is alright too.

>>5361017


And going with Genesis shoot 'em up soundtracks, Thunder Force III is one of my favorites. Thunder Force IV (or Lightening Force) has a great soundtrack too. But TFIII will always be one of my personal favorites:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCbxtRBHglE&index=2&list=PLnIrhXmeMnDrmrTUytNs_XjZla9CcgM1Y

Thunder Force III is a Genesis / Mega Drive original. But it was later re-worked into an arcade game called Thunder Force AC. Thunder Force AC was then ported to the SNES and renamed Thunder Spirits. Here is the SNES rendition of the same music track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSvmTmwRrZU&index=4&list=PL4F1613A3392D7D69

Thunder Force 3 on the MD/ Genesis ran circles around Thunder Spirits as far as framerate was concerned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfFjOqquYtI

I like both systems, but there were some things that the Genesis/ MD could do much better than the SNES. Shooters was definitely one of them. But there are certain types of games that work better on the SNES.

back in the early 90's getting a super nintendo after the sega genesis really felt like upgrad, snes graphics were so much better and the controller was super comfy while genesys controller was a bit clunky.

>>5361015
>>5361017
I love genesis shmup osts, esp gley lancer, biohazard battle, verytex (thx Sakimoto) and zero wing but I was challenging snes fanboys to give me music that isnt just ripped from a top 30 most epic snes osts list.

P.s. vapour tails lead sounds like an actual guitar and its awesome. What other genesis games have guitar like patches? Gloc air battle definitely does. Matt Furniss is the king.

>>5362132
Comix Zone has a lot of guitar sounding music as well. Hot damn that game is so good.
https://youtu.be/JlREn2A2OCQ

>>5362132
Not guitar, but I like Darius II's Genesis soundtrack more than the arcade version. Great port too

>>5362317
JP Rampage Edition has some great tracks too.

>>5362132
>What other genesis games have guitar like patches

Battle Mania Daiginjou has a lot of great "guitar sounding" tracks, like this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC0QDkKKZP0

Contra Hard Corps also has a pretty heavy metal inspired soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZDcxgT0h0s

Comix Zone does a really good job emulating grunge, bluegrass and a blues sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhxA4XRTjys

There is also Thunder Force IV's metal soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUYGHRU5IkI

Also, Matt Furniss's Alien 3 soundtrack is one of my favorites that he did for the system:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5RiwtCX14k

>>5362317
JP Rampage Edition has some great tracks too.

https://youtu.be/e1fF3DSErK4

Both the Ecco games have interesting sounding music. Tubes of Medusa is a perfect example and some of Genesis at it's best where it doesn't sound like anything traditional, just crazy synth with an awesome tune.

https://youtu.be/Kk72RMv9d0s

EA didn't exactly have the best sound drives for the Genesis/ Mega Drive, but I love Rob Hubbards intro theme for Road Rash II, cheesy guitars and all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zrvoIhwxRI

There's some decent banjo and well as acoustic guitar sounds as well as other instruments in The Humans as well.

https://youtu.be/wcyRZz3I5D0

What's the consensus on games with the same music? Like Earthworm Jim for example, does it sound better on snes or genesis?

>>5362404
whatever you grew up playing. for me i grew up playing ej on genesis, so i have a preference toward that.

>>5358581
>game sucks
its pretty good, i enjoyed it more than ducktales

>>5359102
Turbografx was a over priced piece of shit

>>5362368
American developers were shit at Genesis music, it's no surprise.

>>5362404
Varies from developer to developer. Typically the Genesis will sound crisper, but the SNES version will sound smoother.

>>5358540
"way better specs"
Lower resolution on 95% of games, and a CPU so slow you can go get a snack during some slowdowns in Gradius III and Super GnG.

>>5362317
>>5362320
>>5362329
>>5362334
>>5362345
>>5362368
>>5362389
KEK when everyone is giving me recommendations for Sega yet absolute fucking silence from Snes fanboys. Shows without a doubt which consoles music has the more passionate followers.
I dont like grunge or hard rock so alot of the gems drivers osts skipped my mind but it does sound pretty close to an actual guitar. TFIV does fit what i had in mind (while daijingou does riffing very convincingly) but i was wondering if there is even more stuff that sounded like guitars from burning fest 120 or this track
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLE83zbBDA
on the x68000. This stuff is a foolproof feat of fm. Only the ones ive mentioned and TFIV seem to match this electric guitar timbre well.

>>5362317
>>5362320
>>5362329
>>5362334
>>5362345
>>5362368
>>5362389
KEK when everyone is giving me recommendations for Sega yet absolute fucking silence from Snes fanboys. Shows without a doubt which consoles music has the more passionate followers.
I dont like grunge or hard rock so alot of the gems drivers osts skipped my mind but it does sound pretty close to an actual guitar. TFIV does fit what i had in mind (while daijingou does riffing very convincingly) but i was wondering if there is even more stuff that sounded like guitars from burning fest 120 or this track
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PLLE83zbBDA
on the x68000. This stuff is a foolproof feat of fm. Only vapour trails, gloc airbattle, some alien3 tracks and TFIV seem to match this electric guitar timbre well.

>>5362404
Depends on what the composers favor.

I met EWJ's composer once and asked his opinion on which was his preferred version. Apparently, he made the music for Genesis specs first and wasn't too happy about how the SNES version compressed it.

>>5360348
>World of illusion
FUUUUCCKKK YEAH!

>>5362696
>personally met tommy tallarico but doesn't even know the name of the guy

>>5362404
The problem here is many of the music for games that the Snes and Genesis both had ports for aren't particularly worth mentioning.

We all know the Genesis absolutely kicks ass for electronic music.
The music between the Genesis and Snes versions of Batman and Robin and Robocop vs Terminator are quite different. It goes without saying that Batman and Robin on the Genesis is a great ost. As for Robocop vs Terminator; guess which one is good enough to be played in actual clubs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PfGgXuQc8E
There is another Robocop game; 3 on both consoles and the same is true here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly8bz2vUZho&list=PL6BoklkwiyPBJ6gjzmAbZ3RMX4AgGIfsv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un8_ofa1fVQ&list=PL6BoklkwiyPAixEEMrcg_WKJnzs_BZ8Ef
However, in contrast, I consider the Snes ost for Top Gear 2 superior. As the Amiga also used samples, the Snes could emulate its music well if it actually tried. Ironically, alot of the Amiga version's ost is house music though without the techno tinted energy of Streets of Rage.

Next up, a few games involved Matt Furniss arranging the music for the genesis version. Since I'm biased, I automatically consider the Genesis ost superior in these cases. These include: Alien 3, the already mentioned Robocop 3, Wolfchild and Boogerman. That isn't to say the Snes versions of Wolfchild and Boogerman are greatly inferior.

With stuff like BOB, the Avengers, Earthworm Jim, Sunset Riders, Cool Spot, Joe and Mac, Samurai Shodown etc. Its more up to personal preferences; usually the case of someone preferring the Snes' tendencies towards brass and big wind instruments or the synthesized melodies of the Genesis. I usually prefer the latter of course but I can't deny the Snes approach works well for Samurai Shodown, Sunset Riders and Cool Spot.

>>5362404
Fatal Fury has the Snes do away with its bombast and sees it follow the Genesis' keyboard synth rock approach. Falls flat quite literally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mG29rhJ4-0w&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EA4N9nhF7Qw
Percussion and bass in genesis version is just tighter and the psg padding adds texture the Snes can't match.

Battletoads and DD and Rnr Racing are two Snes osts that are undoubtedly superior to their counterparts. These two games are the reason I feel like the Genesis' capabilities for rock music can be overrated.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-jEW2fQN4s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQn3PLtuUY0&list=PLB0xooEkKbSZwmDvPGew9KLb-amX7pG3H&index=8
With the right samples, the Snes can gain the edge for specific styles of hard rock esque music. Its only funkier, jazzier or metallic rock music where the Snes' limitations regarding simultaneous use of samples starts to show.

Tim Follin himself arranged RnR racing for Snes but some of the novelty is lost because why wouldn't I just listen the dadrock originals?

There are two more euro pc/amiga heritage games I want to bring up now. Mega/ Super Turrican and lemmings
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erYiWe5OnBo&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAJ_BWe9iMo
Genesis version of the Lemmings just sounds richer and fuller overall. That bass!

Huelsbeck did a wonderful job for Turrican; it is one of the best osts on either console.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldNkNpZCAko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAacW3CveL0

Genesis version does seem to have more tracks; and these extra tracks it has over the Snes aren't exactly filler. Even the ambient tracks are pretty cool for seeing how eerie the fm chip could be made to sound. Ecco the Dolphin folks will be familiar with this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crk7uMQ9XR8
Love this ost.

>>5362404
The best for the last, the Japanese osts.

Shmups, Thunder force/spirits III and Raiden Trad.
I think Thunder spirits was mentioned already. An insult to the original Thunder force 3 ost.

What I said about Fatal Fury sorta applies to Snes Raiden too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nn7e7eHTkQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeUZp09Quz4

And finally, the jrpgs. Genesis version of YSIII and Langrisser absolutely destroys the Snes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6fZOLkfbnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH5g_dD5ri0
The lack of PSG backing and powerful bass hurts the Snes once again. Id also want to point out that the Genesis does wind type instruments pretty well; just synthesized wood instruments.

And Langrisser....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDrsPsCkM_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhvQwdgJ4NY

SNES BTFO.

>>5358601
>>5362404
Also, this anon did the gods work. Megadrive ports of Puyo Puyo are really great.

Rocket Knight Adventures has a fantastic soundtrack:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgpvMtIF1JQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fG0wYNUiTXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTEZhg3pMFA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRf0HRZGt24

>>5358558
Call me back when the SNES has a motorola 68000 okay?

>>5362975
>Rocket Knight Adventures has a fantastic soundtrack:


To balance this thread out a bit, here's the soundtrack to Contra III on the SNES:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxqYLlN7yY&index=2&list=PLAA87EB44D9392340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia_6rHYu0TQ&index=3&list=PLAA87EB44D9392340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEGXnnKb_jA&index=5&list=PLAA87EB44D9392340
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJA31Rlp0j4&index=11&list=PLAA87EB44D9392340

Contra III was created by the same composers that did Rocket Knight. They make good use of the PCM sample playback in the SNES soundchip.

>>5362975
That's right, Rocket Knight has a Snes version too didn't it?

This is such a stupid troll thread that should be instantly deleted if we had some decent standards on /vr/.
While I prefer the SNES library over the Genesis, Genesis have much better hardware for SHMUPs, Beat 'em up and faster games with more sprites. Sonic the Hedgehog 2/3 would never be possible on a SNES. Genesis have a lot of good games that everyone who loves video games should play, so just shit on an entire console is retarded.

>>5363096
>That's right, Rocket Knight has a Snes version too didn't it?

The SNES does not have a port of Rocket Knight, but it does have it's own original Sparkster game, that is not too bad in its own right.

>>5362695
snesbros a.k.a. nintendobros are mostly on /v/, while this place is the only place to go for sega widows since sega died in the gutter in 2001.

>>5363190
you are retarded.
im pretty sure a snes could run that gotta go fast autismo game, it's not even graphic heavy.

Now i want to see a that poorman's console run doom, donkey kong, star fox, rendering ranger, fzero, yoshi story, and so many other.

Fuck, sega shit couldnt even handle that trash nintendo 8 bit port of megaman.

>>5358540
Come on OP. I was also a Nintendo kid, but off the top of my head:

>Sonic series
>Streets of Rage trilogy
>Thunderforce IV
>MUSHA
>Gunstar Heroes
>Alien Soldier
>Shinobi III
>Ecco
>Contra: Hard Corps
>Strider
>TMNT Hyperstone Heist

>>5358609
The OP was fanboying so this thread never had a chance.

>>5358541
Yup.
>>5358603
It's about time someone said it. The music sounds way closer to the arcade version and has much more of a driving, rhythmic feel to it. What does Turbo have? Flat leads and weak bass?

Street Fighter II Turbo was actually the version I played as a kid, but it can't compare.
>>5359102
It was an also-ran console, let's face it.
>>5359408
Pic related detected.
>>5358585
I like the Super Nintendo's string sounds and better sampling capabilities, but that's about it.
>>5360580
Hey, it's this guy again.
>>5362132
>Vapor Trail
>Matt Furniss
Solid taste.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asEtOhYITFg
>>5362404
A lot of it depends on how much work was put into each version. Aero the Acro-Bat 2 is one game that sounds awful on the Genesis and has some great music on the SNES.
>>5365401
Damage control.

>>5358540
>snes have way better specs

Snes is an 8bit machine with a slug of a 16-bit processor.

Here's a controversial opinion: both the SNES and Genesis have a fantastic library of games and there's no reason not to enjoy both consoles.

>>5358603
>Street Fighter II Special Champion Edition on Genesis is superior to Street Fighter II Turbo for SNES

The MEGA DRIVE versions ARE better. The voice samples suck. The reduced color palette sucks. But at least this game IS Street Fighter with a most of the CPS animations intact. The SNES version lacks, intro, chain combos, animation frames, background animations, announcer samples, and has a re-arranged soudtrack. And it doesn't play anything like the CPS game.

So to all you but-my-snes-SF looks way more colorful, FUCK YOU.

>>5366218
This.

Also, no best 16-bit pinball in this thread?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkMXOWFgB5M

>>5365440
>Now i want to see a that poorman's console run doom, donkey kong, star fox, rendering ranger, fzero, yoshi story, and so many other.

> Doom
> Yoshi's Island
> Star Fox

Those are all SuperFX chip games. The stock SNES can't run those games on its own. The SuperFX chip is a 16bit RISC co-processor that runs anywhere between 10 to 21MHz with some additional floating point calculations for polygon and sprite scaling.

Sega did the same thing with Virtua Racing on the Genesis/ Mega Drive, by using their own processor called the Sega Virtua Processor. It's a 23MHz co-processor that can do 25MIPS and even has two PWM sound channels. Sega planned on using it for more Model 1 ports, but these CPU's drove the cost of cartridges up to $100 retail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J17kjksD0yE

This is the only SVP chip game they made. Before deciding to go with the 32x.

>>5358540
This alone destroys the SNES. Not even exaggerating:

https://youtu.be/nHGyDffsKRQ

>>5359102
No games

>>5367267
I'll just leave this here
https://youtu.be/KT-y7bZlpJM

>that list of Genesis games
shit thread, OP

here's some shit I still play semi-regularly:
>Streets of Rage 2
>Sonic 1-3&K
>Castlevania Bloodlines
>Shinobi III
>Shadow Dancer
>MUSHA
>Contra Hard Corps
>Gunstar Heroes
>Out Run
>Ranger-X
>Atomic Runner
>Granada
>Space Harrier II
>Kawasaki Superbike Challenge
>Puyo Puyo 2
>Alien Soldier

>>5366950
Both these chips, the Nintendo ones and the SVP use fixed-math. There is no need for FPO for the stuff these things push, not at all.

This is the dumbest thread I've seen all week congrats OP you finally brought peace to the console wars

Snes game were always more "cinematic" to me, save a few I could never replay a game once I finished it due to that, Mario, Zelda, MegaMan, could only play them once, then they lied dormant in my closet. With Sega was another story, I could play Sonic 3, Shinobi, Castle of Illusion, Aladdin, Streets of Rage, Soleil and Thunderforce IV for hours many many times, I'm guessing because your character stays the same always and doesn't gets progressively better which makes replaying a game a chore, I just enjoy arcadey games more which Genesis had more

>>5366214
FUCK I forgot how good Second Samurais ost was.

>>5367245
Hard to believe they made this ost all the way back in 1980.

>>5367273
>jrpg synth pop
I simply cannot hate this console.

>>5358581
>>Quack Shot
>Game Sucks

wrongo

>>5362132
>>5362329
Im replying to my own post but I just remembered that the ending credits theme for Burning Force is peak realistic fm synth guitar.

https://youtu.be/34VycZS6hb0?t=63

The girl is so cute too.

>>5367336
I have never thought about it in that way but my experience was similar. I had both consoles and fully enjoyed both consoles, but overall my Genesis seemed to get played more and by the end my collection was about 3/4 Genesis and 1/4 SNES. I still loved the SNES games I did get, it just seemed like the Genesis library spoke to me more.

>>5358616

Toejam and Earl not getting another dungeon crawler sequel and being forced to go 2d Side scroller really showed Sega's weakness. I was very lucky to have friends with both and a brother with a SNES and myself a genesis, so I really feel there's no fanboy faggot shit bias like OP. Sega didn't know what worked. Taking a game that was different from the rest, different from the competition even, and turning it into another side scroller really highlights this. They made true sequels to sonic, ecco, golden ax, ect. but for some reason they complelely canned the original development for toejam and earl 2 to crank out more of what that generation had too much of.

>>5366950
>Sega planned on using it for more Model 1 ports, but these CPU's drove the cost of cartridges up to $100 retail.

That, and reportedly they had production issues and huge bugs in them.

>>5369624
the best part of toe jam and earl was the split screen multiplayer, the last time a game let you play with ur friend all night like that was fuckin bubble bobble on the nes

As a 19 year old it amazes me that this console war still continues almost thirty years later. Just emulate both and enjoy them.

>>5362404
Genesis, that's not even a fucking question. The SNES port sounds like it's played in a tunnel.
https://youtu.be/Wu-DY6Phm_0
https://youtu.be/5cAtfPd4O6E

>>5359102
t. Johnny Turbo

>best thread of the week
>still up n running
based /vr/, lets play some snes while sega shits cry.

>>5370817
>best thread of the week
>still up n running
It will be autosaged in two days, so cherish it.

SNES has a ton of all time greats but the library runs dry pretty fast once you're done with those, Genesis has a much more interesting selection of lower profile games. JRPGs had already sold out and started pandering to a casual, challenge-adverse audience by the time the 16 bit era rolled around so I dont feel too strongly about the SNES having more of them

the only game worth 2 shits on mega drive was splatter house 3, but then again, when compared to the original splatterhouse on turbografx, it's complete shit.
mega drive was a wasted console.

>>5370870
>>5370817
stop samefagging

>>5358590
>but it seems like all the good games on genesis were a little obscure
That's my biggest issue with Genesis collecting. The console was marketed mainly as sportshit machine, so all the actually good games were overshadowed by Madden and crap.You have to pay an arm and a leg to get the whole Konami collection on Genesis.

>>5370875
>genesis's most desired 3rd party games / developers got big on NES first
of course, Nintendo fans drive the collecting market

what first party games sega shit had besides sanic?
this is what ruinned sega, the lack of games that mattered.

>>5370920
fuck off OP

>>5370925
no, u fuck off OP

can we talk about how sega was the poor/black kid console? i distinctly remember in my school only the shitspawn having that shit.

>>5370938
>more expensive == automatically better
Spotted the Applecuck.

>>5370920
Streets of Rage, Shinobi, Outrun, Shining Force, Phantasy Star, Castle of Illusion, Afterburner, Space Harrier, Eternal Champions, Golden Axe. I could go on.

>>5362334
Fuck off with your GEMS garbage

Nintenbabies that never had a Genesis never had any nigger friends so that's why they invite Tyrone to come breed their wives while they play their Switch. Just another way to try and live out missed nostalgia.

>>OP samefagging
pathetic

>>5370962
but those are all garbage

>>5370949
>mad
spotted the sega widow

>>5370990
>>5370989
kys op

>>5359102
In Japan.......

>>5358540
As an adult I now prefer the SNES precisely because it has such a fun child like quality to its games. Back then as a teen I wanted nothing to do with that baby tiered shit. Genesis was the ultimate early to mid 90s console for a teenager.

Its games felt faster, grittier and more arcade like, and that FM synth sound is epic regardless of what the fartfags say. The colors were less pastel and the music more hardcore. It was the system for "older" gamers, this is simple fact.

SNES is great and its games generally feel more comfy and work well for a 40 year old gamer with slower reflexes.

>>5371020
>Its games felt faster
Because they were
>SNES is great and its games generally feel more comfy and work well for a 40 year old gamer with slower reflexes.
>it's good because I'm a boomer
Kek Nintencucks

>>5371020
>hurr durr snes baby
>hurr durr i like adult games
>hurr durr
>get out of my room mom im playin michy mouse

>>5370817
Im pretty sure this thread has more than demonstrated that the Genesis is a highly capable console even against the newer Snes.
Superior audio, better port versions of the better crossplatform games, shmup dominance, having jrpgs that could match the best of Snes jrpgs, faster gameplay and tons of underrated gems like Ranger X.

>>5365401
Are you implying basic zoomer nintendo bitches would be of any use in suggesting good snes osts? Fucking hilarious.

>>5371203
>genesis
>superior audio
>every multiplat has the worst audio
>i promise joo guise genesis is good i swer xD

what a worthless board

>>5371235
>multiplat
into the trash it goes

for the last time op delete your sega threads.
where the fuck are the mods?

>>5371235
Did you just happen to miss all these posts?
>>5358585
>>5358601
>>5358603
>>5358676
>>5358683
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>>5358786
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>>5368067
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>>5371020
The most i hear from snes anons about their inferior sound system is muh generic symphonic ost or it sounds real!!!! Despite the amiga or cd addon for say the turbografx showing how real sounding vgm really is done.

>>5371279
here's your (you)

i dont know anything about chips or hardware pieces, but genesis always had garbage screechy sound.

>>5371318
>absolute lack of appreciation for vgm
You shouldnt be judging anything soundwise with your poor tastes

>>5371329
>screechy noises
>sound
lol sega shit

SNES looks better, sounds better and has the better games.

That said I would still get a Mega Drive first simply for the oddity factor of building one of these addon monsters.

>>5371031


>>5371032
(You)r reading comprehension is very bad if you got that out of my post.

I'm honestly not shitting on SNES at all, I fucking love it. I'm saying is at the time genesis was considered a more adult system. Teenagers literally thought SNES was ok but geared towards kids. It's kind of the same with how the WII vs. PS3/XB360 was. Maybe you remember this time as you obviously were to young to remember how 16 bit systems were perceived and portrayed by marketing back then.

>>5371346
>he has only listened to gems soundtracks made by westerners
>>5371383
>not prefering the sleek black genesis' look
>thinks grey box snes can compare to the superior styling of the super famicom
>yet another faggot who judges genesis sound on western games only
Thats like not having metroid, castlevania, f zero and all the jrpgs exist to judge the snes' value because western games only!

With misinformed shit tastes like these its no wonder Snes fanatics are so biased.

>call himself a retro gamer
>doesnt like the genesis
you should go back to /v/

>>5371419
By looks I meant games.

>>5371383
based and redp-
>tumblr.jpg
fuck off fagit

I've just spent 20 minutes analyzing this thread and i can conclude that the snes was the King of the 16bits Era and managed to curbstomp the genesis, leaving it dead in the gutter.

>>5371642
whatever helps you sleep at night op

My first video game was the sega genesis, i was 6yo. I remember hating the cluncky 3 buttom controller and getting frustated with the 6 buttom being too small. I played a lot of quack shot and shinobi, never really liked anything else and i rented games every weekend. A few years later i got the SNES and boy oh boy what a nice upgrade it was. Super Mario World, Donkey Kong and Metroid were mesmerizing. Many snes games still impress me to this day. Snes is solely responsible for the Golden Age of Video Games.

>>5371697
fuck off nigger you are not fooling anyone.

>>5371697
>>5371704

>>5371279

>>5371697
Mega drive was my first video game too, i tried to make the best of it but no game actually got my attention. When i got a snes with donkey long 3 for bday, i almost shat my pants, the snes was glorious, i think never played the mega drive after that.

kill this thread

Are we being raided?

>>5371718
no, but the widows got sand in their vaginas.

It all comes down to the games the console has,
and only the snes have mario, zelda, metroid, f-zero, donkey kong, fire emblem, final fantasy,
mario rpg, mario kart, mario world, mario world 2, megaman x trilogy, donkey kong trilogy,
chrono trigger, secret of mana, killer instinct,
earth bound, shadowrun, actraiser, and im probably missing a lot more.

Op still samefagging

Now i see why the word nintoddler gets thrown about so much. Its clear up one side comes up with good counterarguments or meaningful discussion while the other keeps parroting the same shit.

>>5371731
based n redpilled

>>5372198
/vr/ just sucks ass. Ive never seen such a huge gathering of people who have no right to be as arrogant as they are

>>5371642
>>5371697
>>5371714
Behold anons, the most obvious samefag ever.

>>5370967
after having actually seen the GEMS workflow, I'm utterly amazed that it's known for shit audio
like, it's designed to make the whole job easy and let you work out how it's going to sound
the sound editor is no worse than say, using a modern Genesis sound program like TFM music maker to make patches

Good thing this trainwreck of a thread will be put on autosage in less than 24 hours. Good riddance.

>>5372883
>after having actually seen the GEMS workflow, I'm utterly amazed that it's known for shit audio
>like, it's designed to make the whole job easy and let you work out how it's going to sound
>the sound editor is no worse than say, using a modern Genesis sound program like TFM music maker to make patches

This video sums up GEMS really well:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEvnZRCW_qc&list=PL5drWs8U-49shquv_8rRugSGggaI3T9SL&index=3

People usually point to this as the reason why Genesis audio sucks. But in reality it is one of the best audio development tools for the console. The only problem is that sometimes composers would just use the default presets causing in samey sounding music. But GEMS is pretty comprehensive and flexible audio program.

>>5370967
>he fell for the gems is shit meme
https://youtu.be/Wu-DY6Phm_0
https://youtu.be/pXB7lrI2oEc
https://youtu.be/HEC5nS2EnWU

sega mega drive was the polystation of the 16bits.
never felt right, bad graphics, shitty games.
imagine asking for a snes on xmas and getting a sega mega shit?

>>5373031
OP this is getting fucking sad

>>5373036
>op
>249 / 27 / 95 / 1
>95 posters
>everyone is op
sad sack of shit kid that nobody wanted and got a poorkid's console for xmas detected

>>5373043
>nearly every post shiting on genesis and jerking off SNES reads like an illiterate spic
>not OP

>>5373052
>retard can't refute argument
>start correcting they're grammer
sad sack of shit kid that nobody wanted and got a poorkid's console for xmas detected

>>5373031
>sega mega drive was the polystation of the 16bits.
>never felt right, bad graphics, shitty games.
>imagine asking for a snes on xmas and getting a sega mega shit?

The Mega Drive was the only real 16bit console available when it was released in Japan. PC Engine uses a modified 8bit 6502 CPU with a 7.6 MHz turbo mode and a 16bit graphics core. It is partially a 16bit machine. But the Mega Drive was released in 1988 with a 16bit Motorola 68000, a 16bit graphics core capable of smooth scrolling graphics with lots of sprites on screen with a built in DMA for fast memory access. Aside from the colour deficiency, the hardware was like a lower rent 16bit arcade board. When it came to 2D scrolling, it could compete with many of the 16bit home console sat the time.

The SNES was released in 1990, two years after the MegaDrive. It is better in some ways, because of the two year time gap. It can put out more colours, has neat hardware effects like Mode 7. Has that Sony designed SPC700 audio chip. But Nintendo did cut some corners with the 65C816 derived CPU. It is a 16bit CPU with a 24bit BUS, unlike the modified 6502 in the PCEngine, but much slower than the 68000 in the Mega Dive/ Genesis. The SNES is a GPU driven system. While the Genesis is a CPU driven system. There are many cases when the Mega Drive/ Genesis games just run better all around.

The top end 16bit system of that generation is the Neo-Geo. But that one is a real higher end 68000 based arcade board shoveled into a home console.

>>5373031
>sega mega drive was the polystation of the 16bits.
>never felt right, bad graphics, shitty games.
>imagine asking for a snes on xmas and getting a sega mega shit?

The Mega Drive was the only real 16bit console available when it was released in Japan. PC Engine uses a modified 8bit 6502 CPU with a 7.6 MHz turbo mode and a 16bit graphics core. It is partially a 16bit machine. But the Mega Drive was released in 1988 with a 16bit Motorola 68000, a 16bit graphics core capable of smooth scrolling graphics with lots of sprites on screen with a built in DMA for fast memory access. Aside from the colour deficiency, the hardware was like a lower rent 16bit arcade board. When it came to 2D scrolling, it could compete with many of the 16bit home computers at that point in time.

The SNES was released in 1990, two years after the MegaDrive. It is better in some ways, because of the two year time gap. It can put out more colours, has neat hardware effects like Mode 7. Has that Sony designed SPC700 audio chip. But Nintendo did cut some corners with the 65C816 derived CPU. It is a 16bit CPU with a 24bit BUS, unlike the modified 6502 in the PCEngine, but much slower than the 68000 in the Mega Dive/ Genesis. The SNES is a GPU driven system. While the Genesis is a CPU driven system. There are many cases when the Mega Drive/ Genesis games just run better all around.

The top end 16bit system of that generation is the Neo-Geo. But that one is a real higher end 68000 based arcade board shoveled into a home console.

>>5373084
i didn't read all that, but are you saying sega shit have games like donkey kong, mario, metroid, megaman and zelda?
LOL
more damage controll pls

>>5373084
>The SNES is a GPU driven system
Well technically the SNES doesn’t have anything going for it other than the powerful background engine. The sprite engine in the SNES is garbage, see >>5358576

>>5373080
>posts no arguments
>"they're grammer"
Sad sack illiterate beaner who only got a ShitNES because his cholo parents swiped one out of a warehouse.

>>5373084
>actually seriously responding to a spic posting obvious b8

>>>5373084 (You)
>i didn't read all that


>but are you saying sega shit have games like donkey kong, mario, metroid, megaman and zelda?

I never said anything like that. I had both an SNES and a Genesis back in the day. There were always games developed for the SNES that you cannot find on the Genesis. But there are types of games on the Genesis that just con't be done justice on the SNES hardware. Both machines have their strengths and weaknesses. Take away the SNES exclusives and there are a lot of third party games I prefer on the Genesis hardware.

>>5373092
>Well technically the SNES doesn’t have anything going for it other than the powerful background engine. The sprite engine in the SNES is garbage, see >>5358576

I just meant that the SNES video chip seemed to work a little more independently from the CPU when compared to the Genesis graphics chip, which was driven by the CPU. The graphics core in the Genesis is quite good, even though it doesn't have a large set of features.

>>5373097
>>actually seriously responding to a spic posting obvious b8

yeah, I realize it's troll bait.

>>5373095
sega widow so mad lol tasty tears
laughing at the shitspawn nobody wanted getting shittier poorkids console for xmas was always fun

>>5373112
>Take away the SNES exclusives
Uou are a complete mongoloid if you think it's okay to disconsider a video game's exclusives. The exclusive games is what makes a console great. Snes is an all time legend with legendary games, what sega has? a mediocre beat em up? a gotta go fast autismo bait?
eat a bowl of fuck segaturd.

>>5373130
>eat a bowl of fuck segaturd.

>>5373112
> I had both an SNES and a Genesis

Both systems have a lot of exclusives worth owning.

sega fanboys are more pathetic than sony fanboys.
at least sony didn't had a shameful death in the gutter and still is relevant with a good console.

if you are going to samefag at least be subtle op

>>5372943
>showing MMPR on genesis
>game developed in japan by Banpresto

No japanese games used GEMS.

mega drive is to snes what master system is to nes.
a cheap alternative.

>>5373112
>he SNES video chip seemed to work a little more independently from the CPU when compared to the Genesis graphics chip, which was driven by the CPU
Unfortunately this is completely wrong. In fact, if anything it's the opposite. Many PPU operations on SNES will halt the CPU, while some of those same VDP operations won't halt the Mega Drive's CPU.

I had both systems growing up so I wasn't biased, but I always found SNES to be more kiddy shit and Genesis's library much more enjoyable as a older teen and now as an adult. Also the best SNES games usually are either first-party or from Capcom or Konami, that's it. Sega had a more diverse range of 3rd party publishers.

the shitspawn sega widows try to hold on so tight to the adult console meme, but all genesis had was a gotta go fast cutesy furbait and two disney games.

>durrr snes baby
>heerpp genesis adult
>hurr durrr im so grown up guise
>i play grown up games for grown up kids like me
>pic related joo guise

>>5373195
>>5373210
based mentally ill poster

>im adult joo guise i promise xD

>>5373271
>>Both systems have kiddie games

What's your point?

>>5373276
>genesis is adult cnsole
>okay okay it does have kiddie games too
my point is, sega widows are pathetic shitspawn scumbags

>>5373281
>>genesis is adult cnsole
>>okay okay it does have kiddie games too
>my point is, sega widows are pathetic shitspawn scumbags


I wasn't the one making any claims that the Genesis was for adults.

>>5358540
Genesis has better graphics (higher resolution, and no ugly hardware effects that only tempt artists into making bad decisions), and better sound (clean FM synth with frequencies all the way to the limits of human hearing, instead of muffled sounding samples squashed into a laughably small 64k). Load times are usually better too, because the faster CPU decompresses cartridge data faster.

>>5373653
bait post
genesis can barely make better graphics than master system, it could never compete with the snes.

>>5358540
Crusader of Centy and Landstalker

>>5370938
>implying the actual monetary value of something determines its literal functional worth

Who gives a shit who it was popular with or what it cost, all that matters are the games. It's the most laughably classist shit when people act like the Genesis is trash just because "the token single black kid in my 6th grade social studies class had one and that matters to me for some reason"

inb4 "something something irony of using a snes game screenshot for this post" etc.

>>5358540
>Sonic series
>Shinobi series
>Streets of Rage series
>Golden Axe series
>OutRun and Super Hang-On
>Vectorman 1 and 2
>Splatterhouse 2 and 3
>Ecco 1 and Tides of Time
>X-Men 1 and 2
>Spider-Man vs. The Kingpin
>Michael Jackson's Moonwalker
>Earthworm Jim with an extra level
>Ristar
>Comix Zone
>Contra Hard Corps
>Castlevania Bloodlines
>Gunstar Heroes
>Rocket Knight Adventures

Wow it's almost like you didn't list any of the Genesis exclusives because they actually hold a candle to the SNES library

>>5359102
Splatterhouse is the only game worth a damn on this entire console and it goes for like 160 bucks

>>5376384
based and redpilled

splatterhouse was awesome, and its sequels were the only game worth playing on genesis.