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5359527 No.5359527 [Reply] [Original]

So is this basically my best option for portable retro emulation?

>> No.5359536

>>5359527
Not if you like SNES

>> No.5359538

>>5359527
That's not a Switch.

>> No.5359631

>>5359538
He said portable

>> No.5359652

>>5359538
PC, PSX? Depending on his definition of portable, windows tablet or laptop is best. I actually love my Surface 3 for that reason.

>> No.5359823

>>5359527
It's pretty darn good
>>5359536
That's a Vita, not a PSP. SNES runs great on the Vita.

>> No.5359826

>>5359527
Its okay but
>GDP XD Plus
>Dingoo a380
>GPD Win2
>Ipad mini
How about those?
>>5359536
That's the PSP you are talking about; he uploaded a pic of a PS Vita.

>> No.5359856

The Vita scene is HOT HOT HOT right now. BIG things on the horizon, from a 3.70 exploit to a possible fw downgrader.

Install Adrenaline and then keep it open all day, if that's all you really want it for. Get a 3G version and put a gigantic SD card inside. Play in glorious OLED. Play PS4 remotely (yes, even with it hacked). The world is your oyster, op.

>> No.5359861

>>5359856
I though the vita's highest FW was 3.69

>> No.5359864

>Stuck using cores based on decade+ old versions of Snes9x
>Even the 2002 core doesn’t run all games full speed
>If and when they do run full speed they’ll still be inaccurate with shit audio emulation

Not to mention your only option for sharp pixels is a TINY integer scaled image that’s barely bigger than a postage stamp. Pay the extra money and get a New 3DS with IPS screens off eBay. Completely BTFOs the Vita for emulation.

>> No.5359869

>>5359864
I myself have both a N3DS and a DSi XL, but I must say the Vita's CPU is more beefy in almost every aspect than the 3DS.

>> No.5359873

>>5359856
There’s nothing to look forward to in the Vita scene other than the 3.7 hack. No one with a lick of talent is developing software for the Vita. All you see these days are hobbyists-tier homebrew apps written by greenhorns looking to get a feel for writing software.

>> No.5359876

>>5359869
That’s irrelevant when the software isn’t there. Since the Jan 16th RetroArch nightly dropped the 3DS has been able to run the Genesis Plus GX core full speed.
Now there’s nothing the Vita has over it other than its native POPS emulator.

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>>5359876
>what is Vita Yabause for the Sega Saturn
>what is Stella Retroarch for Atari 2600 games
>What is Vita Gens GX+ for Mega Drive(and maybe also SMS as well)
>what are the several PS1 emulators for the vita including native POPS and TN-X
>what is Vita MAMA and OpenBOR for Arcade
>what are 2-3 GameCube emulators made for the PS Vita
>What is FB Alpha
>What is PrBoom for Doom 1&2
>What are the respective Vita sourceports for Quake 1, 2 and Q3A.

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5360018

>>5359538
>giving Nintendo money

>> No.5360025

>>5360018
Maybe he's planning to steal it.

>> No.5360027

>>5360025
Nintoddlers are fairly easy to rob now that you mention it

>> No.5360032

>>5360027
Well then I guess that should be standard advice in every /vr/ thread

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5360035

>>5360018
>strawmanning this hard

>> No.5360050

>>5359527
http://www.gpdxd.com/product/gpd-xd-plus-gamepad-black-32g/

>> No.5360067

>>5359856
>Get a 3G version and put a gigantic SD card inside.
you know the game card adapter works just as well, right?

>> No.5360223

>>5359826
I want the portability of something for my pocket, and the ability to play stuff up to psx. I just thought playing Vita games would be a plus on top of it. The Vita is also relatively cheap used.

What's the battery life on the Vita opposed to other options?

>> No.5360229

>>5360067
Where else would you put the SD card?

>> No.5360230
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5360230

>>5359962
>Runs like shit
>Also on 3DS
>Literally just said that runs full speed on 3DS
>One RA core that isn’t full speed and POPS (which I already listed as its one advantage)
>Also on 3DS
>Don’t exist
>Also on 3DS
>Also on 3DS
>Also on 3DS
You’re one dumb nigger, you are.

>> No.5360236

>>5360230
The process for jailbreaking a 3ds seems pretty involved vs the Vita. I'm pretty iffy when it comes to jailbreaking and don't wanna fuck it up. Am I just paranoid?

>> No.5360245
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5360245

No, your phone is.

>> No.5360247

>>5360245
Want a dedicated device

>> No.5360252

>>5360236
Yeah. Just follow the guide at >>>/vg/hbg to the letter and you’ll be fine.
I’ve hacked two of both. 3DS takes a bit longer, but its better native library, DS and GBA (through insects) backwards compatibility and SNES virtual console more than make up for it.

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5360257

>>5360247
through injects*

Also keep in mind that the can’t emulate GBA worth a damn. You’re stuck using PSP GBA emulators which are absolute shit.

>> No.5360260
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5360260

>>5360252
through injects*

Also keep in mind that the Vita can’t emulate GBA worth a damn. You’re stuck using PSP GBA emulators which are absolute shit.

>> No.5360353

>>5360252
What's the battery like on 3ds vs Vita?

>> No.5360537

what snes game can't you run fullspeed with vita? just tried 2005 core with lolicon enabled at max speed and it runs pretty smooth

>> No.5360637

>>5359538
If he buys one now there's a 100% chance it won't be hackable. Switch is still a nightmare to hack.
Plus it's 350$ while vita is 50.

>> No.5360687

>>5360637
>Plus it's 350$ while vita is 50
Neither is correct.

>> No.5360691

>>5360687
>Neither is correct.
It is in EU. Vita might be between 50 and 125 USD.

>> No.5360698
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5360698

*Destroys your Vita and 3DS*

>> No.5360702

>>5360050
this looks tempting, i never want to hack a device for emulation ever again

>> No.5360748

>>5360067
>plugging up the game card slot

That, my friend, is shit tier and inelegant.

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5360751

>>5360698
>makes you look like a supernerd in public

Pic related is classier.

>> No.5360784

Your options are 3DS which runs PSX and N64 like shit, Vita with a lack of support that will never happen, GPD XD Plus that has problems running PSP, or a GPD WIN with the cost of a computer.

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5360849

>>5360260
>stuck using PSP GBA emulators

What is Retroarch VBA Next Core, quit spreading misinformation, I run GBA games on this core @60FPS all the time

>> No.5360870

>one device to rule them

Not gonna happen. Pick the two that cover the most ground that matters to you.

>> No.5360873

>>5359823
>SNES runs great on the Vita.
Is that why snes9xtyl needs a special vita-build because it lacks PSP's Media Engine?

>> No.5360875

>>5359861
What's the point of telling the world that you're ignorant?

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5360894

>>5360873
>snes9xtyl
Again, what are Retroarch SNES9x cores. Again, play SNES games all day with zero frame drops. Quit cherry-picking bad examples to further your agenda.

>> No.5360901

>>5360894
had no idea snes-games were 16:9

>> No.5360905

>>5360901
They aren’t. I’m scaling it on a VitaTV connected to a projector.

>> No.5360974

Actually the 3DS is the best retro portable emulator machine but the Vita is a close second.

>> No.5360975

>>5359527
>>5359536
>>5359823
>>5359826
I have a PSP (got it in 2005 or something) and I use it for GBA, GB/GBC, Mega Drive and SNES games. SNES games still run pretty well, yes perhaps a little less well than GBA or Mega Drive, but still absolutely playable. I've played some Super Mario World on there and it's fine.

>> No.5360976

>>5360873
Wait.

Are you.

Are you telling me that different consoles, dare I say, need DIFFERENT versions of an emulator?

GOSH.

>> No.5360979

>>5360698
That looks like a McLaren promotional image from the 2009-2012 era photoshopped onto the screen (going by the car design, and the fact that Hamilton is driving). But why? Because it's not a screenshot from a video game. This makes no sense.

>> No.5360985

>>5360976
why different consoles? snes9xTYL is for PSP. vita's psp-mode is just so shit it needs a special build to not go full retard.

>> No.5360987

>>5360894
Try playing DKC or SA1 or SFX games. I dare you.

>>5360849
Try playing Golden Sun.

If you manage to get all of those games running at 60fps on more intensive parts. please tell me what are your settings.

>> No.5360990

>>5360987
>Try playing Golden Sun.
why would I? it's shit

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5360995

>>5360990
>calling GS shit
I automatically discard every future opinion of yours.
Also, you know it's not gonna run at the fps you claim.

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5360998

>>5360975
I find both SNES and GBA unplayably bad on PSP. I've still used it for a few non-action things like Shiren, but anything needing timing feels like shit.

I've always played a lot more Genesis than either of them though so it didn't bother me a ton, but I would never recommend a PSP to someone wanting to emulate those systems.

>> No.5361000

>>5360998
TempGBA on PSP is pretty spot on, I'd suggest trying that one out.

>> No.5361004

>>5360995
Not him but I agree, Golden Sun was obe of the most generic dull RPGs I ever played. I understand the context you meant was seeing how it runs (badly I assume) which makes sense though.

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5361007

>>5361000
Thanks I may look into that. Honestly though outside of a handful of games I didn't like the GBA library a ton and those games I've played to death.

A truly good SNES option would be nice though.

>> No.5361024

>>5361007
As for SNES on PSP, you might want to try a mod of SNES9x made by Esmjanus.
It's better than the normal Snes9x. You'll still have problems with games like DKC but for everything else it's way better.

https://github.com/esmjanus/snes9xTYL/releases

Some tips:
Set engine to "PSP accel. + acur. soft." or "PSP accel. + approx. soft.".
Frameskip to Autochange below 1.
VSync to Yes.
PSP Clockspeed to 333Mhz.
In Hack/debug menu, set Speedhacks to ON.
Then activate Ignore Palette writes and Simple Palette writes,

>> No.5361027

>>5361024
Thanks!

>> No.5361032

>>5360975
>>5360998
>>5361000
>>5361007
gpSP kai is the GBA emulator I have on my PSP and it plays things flawlessly - in fact better than flawlessly, because you can a game like Pokemon Emerald faster than regular speed if you turn on turbo mode (which I like a lot because Pokemon I think is generally too slow, the walking takes ages, the text menus and things take longer than they should, etc.). Pokemon FireRed and LeafGreen also run faster in turbo mode, although not quite as fast as Emerald for some reason. Those are really the only GBA games I've played on my PSP but they run, like I say, better than flawlessly.

Mega Drive games have also run very well - I've played the Sonic games on there and they ran great. I think I played through all of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2.

Super Mario World for SNES I think did have some screen tearing, but it was still perfectly playable. If you've got a PSP lying around it's definitely worth installing these emulators. If you don't have one and you're looking for a portable device to play these games then maybe an Android phone is better, especially something like a OnePlus 6T which has a high-performance CPU for a relatively low price. Granted I've not used one for emulation but I'm guessing it can probably handle it.

>> No.5361038

The Vita is definitely the better bet. The popular ps2 games were remade on it, and psx emulation with retroarch and adrenaline. If you want to focus on the sony side of things the vita is a good bet. Also you can download no pay station to get anything.

>> No.5361056

>>5359826
I don’t know much about emulation on those because I don’t own neither of them, but Vita has the best shape out of all handhelds and personally the comfiness of holding it is what matters the most. 3DS look-a-like, NES controller with a screen and a touchscreen tablet won’t do it for me.

>> No.5361061

>>5359864
t. jewtendo manchild

>> No.5361063

>>5360245
shit looks fugly

>> No.5361075

>>5360698
>looks like a 3DS
>Android OS therefore bitches won’t fuck you

>> No.5361090
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5361090

>>5360849
>>5360987
That’s nice and all but does it run pic related without a problem?

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>>5360987
>Try playing DKC
60.0 FPS/SNES9x 2005
>or SA1
Super Mario RPG 60.1 FPS/SNES9x 2005
Kirby Super Star 60.1 FPS/SNES9x 2005
>or SFX games
You got me there, Starfox and Stunt Race FX average 40-55 FPS
But...SMW2 runs at 60.0 FPS and that's a SuperFX 2 game so...
Moving goalposts but whatever

>> No.5361123

>>5361118
Aren't those RA cores tho? Or maybe they run good because it's a PSTV rather than a "real" Vita?
I'll have to test myself because I remember having unplayably bad fps with those games.

>> No.5361132

>>5361123
They are RA cores, that was my point originally. On the Vita, individual emulators aren’t the route to take for the best options. The hardware is identical between the PSTV/Vita. It runs exactly like this on my Vita as well.

>> No.5361372
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5361372

>>5361056
>Dingoo has six buttons(not counting start and select)
>NES controller

>> No.5361381

>>5359527
>So is this basically my best option for portable retro emulation?
it's cheap and "an" option, that's all you need to know.

>> No.5361392

>>5359826
>>5361372
Dingoo A320 was the best model at the time, the later A330/A380 revisions were not official and had tons of issues (shitty buttons, buggier firmware, etc). Hardly any community applications took advantage of the upgraded hardware so the higher cost was pointless.

Either way, Dingoos have been out of production for 5+ years and Coolboy RS-97's run the same firmware for half the price. Dingux on RS-97 is still pretty spotty but it's getting better and it'll definitely surpass Dingoo in the next few months

>> No.5361398

As of right now it's a toss-up between a Vita and n3DS, depending on if you want the PS1 and PSP libraries or the DS library. Both great choices.
Switch is definitely going to be the go-to in a few years though.

>> No.5361532

>>5361398
I have a switch, but i'm not really in the mood to jailbreak it. I play a lot of the Nintendo first party games on it and don't want to risk a ban.

>> No.5361537

>>5361372
Man that thing looks cheap, its probably fine but i would drop money on that.

>> No.5361559

>>5359962
they let negros on the internet now?

>> No.5361593

>>5360751
if they'd just invent a handheld that looks like a Dostoevsky book from the outside

>> No.5361598

>>5359869
>the Vita's CPU is more beefy in almost every aspect than the 3DS
it's actually pretty middling, especially in single core performance. n3ds is notably faster.

>> No.5361604

>>5360698
Does no one care about the constant stutter caused by Android's process management? Is everyone here too much of a brainlet to notice or care?

>> No.5361619

>>5361398

Switch needs a more simple hacking method.

Probably no system will ever be as simple as PSP was, though.

>> No.5361768

>>5359527
Mine is on 3.69, I hear in march it's going to have some proper hack.
It's asking me to update to 3.7
What do I do lads?

>> No.5361795

>>5361768
They are effectively the same and TheFlow has already stated his 3.69 tool chain works on 3.7 so there you go.

>> No.5361854

>>5361593
Why, so you can look like a pretentious twat on the subway?

>> No.5362004

Can the vita run ps2?

>> No.5362006

>>5362004
>ps2
no

>> No.5362012

>>5362004
Some PS2 games have been ported but no, you can’t emulate it

>> No.5362014

>>5359527
Yes. Vita is awesome.

>> No.5362025

>>5362004
No, but it can emulate some Gamecube games.

>> No.5362076

>>5360748
>using the game card slot for games
oh no how inelegant
>paying shit tons of money for the 3G model just so you can keep the game card slot empty
nice. cool. epic.

>>5360229
game card adapter means game card slot.

>> No.5362097

>>5361024
just tried this setting on a vita emulating shin megami tensei patched to english, lowered the sound to 11025hz, took out the vsync, and set frame skip to 1... runs better than
CATSFC-libretro-vita MOD v.1, feels a little slower though, but the sound doesn't crack.

>> No.5362151

>>5361559
That's not my fingers in the pic.

>> No.5362443

>>5362097
If you're using a Vita I still suggest using RA for SNES, it's way better.

>> No.5362447

>>5361132
Oh, try playing Kirby's Dreamland 3 in RA and tell me how it goes please.
Last time I tried it ran with a lot of hiccups. Enough to make me not want to play it there.

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5362460

>>5361118
Please don't lie.
Or at least test the games for more than two seconds.

>> No.5362537

>>5362460
Is that a filter or overlay?

>> No.5362543

>>5362537
Overlay.
Vita RA can't use filters. And inb4, removing or having an overlay doesn't have any kind of impact on the fps you get. To my knowledge and as far as I've tested.

>> No.5362568

>>5362543
No, I know that. That’s why I asked.

What’s weird is I completed DKC using the ‘05 core with no issues. Either performance has regressed or you used the ‘05 Plus or 2010 core?

>> No.5362570

>>5362568
Nah, using the normal 2005 core.
But I am using the 1.7.3 version of RA tho, I'm upgrading to 1.7.6 to see if it's any different but I highly doubt it.

>> No.5362572

>>5362568

Not that anon, but I've been using the Snes9x current core (not 02, 05, or 10), and I get excellent results with DKC on a pi3 b+, which is shit compared to any PC-based emu box.

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5362583

>>5362568
>>5362570
And got the same results.
I'm just inclined to think PSTV has better hardware than a normal Vita.

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5362619

Wait, got way better results with Esmjanus' s9xTYLcm version for Vita with the same fiddling in >>5361024

Got steady 60fps through the whole first stage.
The emulator was kind of a bitch to set because I'm using UMA for my retro roms (I'm dedicating ux0 to Vita games only) but this was a great test tho.

>> No.5362652
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5362652

Color me impressed, Super Mario RPG also runs nice. I'm afraid there're going to be serious drops for certain attacks tho.

>> No.5362672

>>5361118

Yeah, nah. SMRPG is borderline unplayable. I've tried all cores.

>> No.5362701

>>5362652
I'm samefag.
So far most games I've tried with tha run steadily nice but they still can't compare to Snes9x on a 3ds, moreso a New 3ds.
So, if you only have a Vita, it's not the end of the world. If you have access to a 3DS that should be your first option tho.
If you own both then it comes down to whatever console, buttons or screens you like more but emulating on both is pretty good seeing everything I've tested.

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>>5362701
To elaborate on my post:
These are the emulators I use on a New3DS (but they have almost the same performance on an Old 3DS).
For NES, SNES, Sega Genesis and SMS and TGfx16 (and PCE CD) I use bubble2k16's emulators. They're good, simple, fast and some like the last two emulate more than one machine (with the minimal fiddling, temperPCE runs also CD games at full speed). You can also speed them up at the press of a button and it's waaaay faster than anything you could speed up in Vita.

For Gameboy and GBC, Wonderswan and Neo Geo Pocket I use the Retroarch cores with are also super good.

As for Vita, I use TempGBA on Adrenaline which is pretty much flawless and RA for everything else.
I'm considering using s9xTYLcm now seeing how stable the slower games are but I still like the 3ds' results more.
Pic related are my emulators.

Also, VC shouldn't be an option. AT ALL. Except for GBA.

>> No.5362725

>>5359962
any recommendations for getting a cheap Vita? I haven't seen them under 180 leaf buxs

>> No.5362745

>>5362725
look on Michigan craigslist or something

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5362753

a pi3 in a gameboy is the best retro portable emulation machine

it's aesthetic as fuck and I've never cared for systems where the screen is between the controls you always get an inch of finger grease on either side of the screen

>> No.5362758

>>5362753
It actually looks horrible.

>> No.5362802

>>5360985
it's because vita lacks media engine, simple as this and it stills runs shit compared to retroarch.

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5362807

>>5362460
>>5362583
>>5362619

>> No.5362812

>>5362807
It's totally a PSTV then. No way a normal Vita can reach that speed. Unless you fiddled hard in the settings.

>> No.5362816

>>5362812
it's my normal vita i don't know what you are doing

>> No.5362819

>>5362816
Dunno man, I just try to play the game. I'm sure you fiddled with the options before and don't remember or something.
I highly doubt the different models of Vitas have different performances on RA. Mine's the second model.

>> No.5362827

>>5362819
i made a fresh install to the latest nightly build and just changed settings so it show fps and to change combo key to enter menu..

>> No.5362837

https://streamable.com/g0324

>> No.5362853

>>5362837

Impressed by your commitment to provide proof. Looks good anon, I haven't had SNES games run that good on my Vita before. That's s9xTYLcm?

>> No.5362854

>>5360637
where the hell can you get a $50 vita serious question

>> No.5362856

>>5362853
retroarch 2005 core
i would advise you to backup savestates/savefiles/system folders from your retroarch install, then uninstall, the delete all folders that would persist then make a fresh install.

>> No.5362858

>>5362854

Welcome to /vr/, where there's a free CRT on every street corner and all used consoles are half the price you normally see. You're just not going to the right flea market in Rapid City, South Dakota.

>> No.5362937

>>5359864
>postage stamp
You could stop making the same retarded statement every goddamn thread.

>> No.5362939

k101 revo

>> No.5362953

>>5362819
You enabled some shaders on yours

>> No.5362974

>>5362937
Cry more, faggot. The Vita sucks.

>> No.5363068

>>5362460
You should be overclcoking. If you’re using the stock speeds, that’s not surprising. 500 MHz makes a difference.

>> No.5363071

>>5363068
How does that change the battery life?

>> No.5363082

>>5363071
Two hours.

>> No.5363084

>>5363082
Pretty much this. Maybe 2.5 emulating.

>> No.5363314

I got my dad's Ps Vita so I'm not complaining, the emulation isn't too great but it's servicable

>> No.5363390

>>5362953
Vita RA can't do shaders. Mine has an overlay but that doesn't have any kind of impact at all.

>> No.5363393
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5363393

>>5363068
>overclocking

The 3DS doesn't need that to achieve full speed.

>> No.5363409

>>5359527
No, the hardware fucking sucks
Enjoy paying 100 bucks for proprietary memory cards

>> No.5363451

>>5363409

Memory card adapters are available for over a year now, you have option to replace game card (cartridge) with sd card adapter, or you can solder it in place of 3g modem. Also vita hardware is more than enough for emulation.

>> No.5363457

>>5363451
Snes begs to differ.
Overclocking IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE option.
The whole idea is to emulate stuff without any kind of external help.

>> No.5363517

>>5362802
Thanks for repeating what I wrote in >>5360873 , fren. :)

>>5362858
big because true

>>5361619
>Probably no system will ever be as simple as PSP was, though.
slightly revisionist view, innit?
>you now remember the PITA that was pandora-battery

>> No.5363519

>>5359631
not sure if autism

>> No.5363521

>>5363457
>Overclocking IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE option.
What the fuck's your problem? It's literally toggling an option on or off.

>> No.5363551

>>5363521
At the cost of damaging your console and battery life and literally counting frames by eye and knowing it's not actually running at the intended speed.

>> No.5363554

>>5363551
>100 mghz boost
>damaging

yeah, I think the vita can withstand a minor overclock

>> No.5363559

>>5363554
Hardly can call that "minor"

>> No.5363576
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5363576

>>5363559
>100 > 0 therefore its large
relatively speaking, 100 mghz is not a lot

>> No.5363610

>>5363576
While you may be right, Vita is still overall worse for emulating than a New3DS so it's not something worth celebrating.
BRB, gonna enjoy some Snes and Genesis on the go without overclocking and for more than two hours.

>> No.5363629

>>5363554
>>5363559
Technically you’re going from 333/444 (min/max stock clock) to 500 (overclock), 167-56MHz is not going to damage it at all, 2GHz (500x 4 cores) is the factory clock speed ceiling. Sony underclocked it for battery life, not longevity. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A9

>> No.5363717

>>5363610
Stil better than on the GBA and PSP I'm sure.

>> No.5363760
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5363760

>>5361372
This is Dingoo a380 you fuckin retard and 2 buttons more don’t make it look less like an NES controller.
Your pic related is Dingoo a330
If only you could read

>> No.5363765

>>5363760
*4 buttons

>> No.5363775

>>5361593
if they'd just invent a handheld that looks like a Foucalt book from the outside just so i can piss of the /pol/retards even though i’m one of them

>> No.5363784

>>5361392
A380 Dingoo at least has both a revamped outer design and a faster CPU. Now I'm more likely to get either a Vita-1000, Vita-2000, OR a Retro Duo sometime.

>> No.5363864

>>5363610
i just wanna play psx games along with the classic shit

>> No.5363970

>>5363576
>>5363554
>>5363521
>>5363451
>>5363068
when you talk about overclocking are you talking about a setting the psp/vita emulators have to toggle clock speed or something external such as amphetamine plugin? iirc the emulator setting both for vita and psp can go up to 444

>> No.5364057

>>5363970
The LOLIcon plugin is Kernel level, allows system wide and per application clock speed overrides, and is the only plugin that goes to 500MHz.

>> No.5364078

>>5363517
>Thanks for repeating what I wrote
but you imply it's shit because it lacks a specific psp feature when we try to emulate psp on vita.. use native emulators they are better.

>> No.5364081
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5364081

>>5364057
>LOLIcon
>that name

>> No.5364087

>>5364081
>Playing Monpiece in public
>Not playing Criminal Girls instead
Yeah, that name tho

>> No.5364089

>>5364057
Is LOLIcon too hard to set up? Do I really need those 500MHz or 444 is fine for DKC?

Does overclocking kill my battery life and overall console faster?

>> No.5364095

>>5364089
no
not really, it's usefull if your game can't reach 60fps obviously
yes it decrease your battery life but the cpu isn't overclocked at speeds he cannot manage, 444mhz was in fact downclocked on purpose by sony

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5364214

>>5359527

>> No.5364245

>>5359527
No. Nor is the switch. Who the fuck keeps asking this almost daily about psp, vita, 3ds, switch?

Same answer as always, Android/windows portable devices are best. Same as always INB4 "HURRR I COULDN'T FIGRE OUT ANDROID AND WINDOWS SO IT ISN'T GOOD".

>> No.5364246

>>5363517

I never had to buy a specific battery to hack mine. After a year or so they had to the point where if you just hadn't updated your PSP then they could hack your firmware. Switch has been hacked for that long but there's no agreed upon hacking method, just many options.

>> No.5364256

>>5363551
Vita doesn't reach anywhere near damaging temperatures while overclocked.

>>5363629
That doesn't have anything to do with anything. Max temperature at a certain wattage is entirely dependent on quality of cooling.

>> No.5364261

>>5364095
Well just tried LOLIcon and that boosted DKC up to 57fps with SNES9x 2005 core.
I'm also getting a "There was a problem loading. 3" message while running LOLIcon but that's beyond my reach now.

>> No.5364293

>>5364261
>capitalizing LOLICON every time
A bit funny but really creepy.

>> No.5364327

Just go with 3DS. If you want portable NES, SNES, Master System, Megadrive, NeoGeo Pocket, Wonderswan, PC Engine, Turboduo CD and quite possibly Sega CD, 3DS is the best option. To boot you have also great 3ds and DS games, all of that in just one portable machine, running at full speed.

Vita can do all of the aforementioned except DS and SNES but it makes up for emulating PS on the go so, do you like more SNES and DS or PS and Vita games?

>> No.5364351

>>5362812
PSTV is a Vita retard.

>> No.5364362

>>5364351
I'm pretty sure the PSTV has slightly better hardware tho.

>> No.5364367

>>5364245
This, how in the fuck are we having daily threads about this when the answer is always PC or android.

Either use your phone or get a device exclusively for gaming like the GPD.

>> No.5364373

>gaming on a phone

Imagine being this much of a millenial.

>> No.5364456

>>5364362
It’s literally the same PCB without the expansion port soldered on- a USB port is attached there.

>> No.5364462

>>5364456
Then I'm at a loss of words. I dunno what's different in my console that RA just runs slower compared to anon's screenshots.

>> No.5364549

>>5364462
Just curious- have you synchronized the refresh? If you go to Video and there is a disparity that can seriously affect frame rate

>> No.5364928

>>5364549
I'll give a look later, I'm don't have my vita near me right now. Anyways my 3ds is my main retro emulator anyway for the comfyness of playing everything there hassle free instead of RA but it never hurts to have two different machines for that.

>> No.5365612

>>5360223
I just recently started playing with the vita. Played GBA games for 5 hours on a plane ride recently and still had ~40% battery life. This is with original battery too, so far I'm damn impressed.

>> No.5365801

>>5363551
>At the cost of damaging your console
going to blow your mind: vita was actually underclocked to save battery due to being portable. pstv has no power-limitation, so crank it up to 11 and go pedal to the metal

>>5364078
In terms of using PSP-homebrew Vita is second-class due to missing ME, all I said.

>>5364246
good for you that you joined that late in the game.

using lolicon on pstv, how does one access the menu with a ds4 (no select-button)?

>> No.5365806

>>5365801
The Option button or left side of the pad button should act as Select.

>> No.5365819

>>5365806
thanks.

Searching for info about LOLIcon using google is a nightmare, inb4 chris hansen.

>> No.5365827

>>5365819

Yeah, always use 'LOLIcon Vita' in your search, it should fix that

>> No.5365913

>>5364549
Alright, I'm back.
I checked the options where you told me and there was a sliiiiiiiight disparity that I "fixed" by pressing X on the Estimated Screen Framerate option and now they're the same.
That's what should give me a huge boost using LOLIcon?

>> No.5365919
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5365919

>>5365913
Forgot the pic.

>> No.5365930
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5365930

>>5365919
Just to prove that I'm not lying, here's my FPS with DKC overclocking it to the max.

>> No.5365970

>>5365930
What's that supposed to achieve?

>> No.5365975

>>5365970

This >>5362807

>> No.5366034

>>5365975
What core are you using?

>> No.5366053

>>5366034
Snes 2005 as indicated in >>5361118

>> No.5366060
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5366060

>>5366053
Yeah, not sure what the difference is. Here is a snap on my Vita (instead of my VitaTV), same core, same clocks, has a 0.1 frame variance. Odd. Are you using the latest nightly?

>> No.5366108

>>5366060
No, I'm using the latest stable 1.7.6

>> No.5366112

>>5366108
Maybe thats the difference? I wouldn't think so but at this point I wonder, cause that's the only difference I can find between our setups

>> No.5366114

>>5366112
I'm assuming you haven't changed the default settings in Video or stuff like that

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5366136

>>5366114

Pretty sure the only change I made was to set the output to 16:9

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5366348

>>5366136
I give up really.

If anyone else is getting steady 60fps on Vita's RA with LOLIcon I'll gladly accept tips.

>> No.5366546
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5366546

>>5366136
This was weird.
I deleted the retroarch.cfg from the Vita and ran the app again so it could create a new and... the results speak for themselves.

DKC has steady 59.9 even on the second stage which I asume is more graphic instensive.

Kirby's Dreamland 3 also runs fine except at pic related screen which has a leaf with wind effect but outside of that it runs fine even with lots of enemies.

SMRPG runs fine all the except except when special attacks occur and the drop in frames only last while said special attack lasts.

This leads me to assume PC Engine CD games will also run perfectly fine (Sapphire and Rondo of Blood in my case) and GBA games too.

Sorry for calling you a liar anon, I was wrong the whole time. Deleting the .cfg file fixed everything so surely I messed up something in the past.

>> No.5366607

I have a GPD XD+ and while I love it for 3D titles and Moonlight, to play my PC games comfortably in bed because I'm a lazy fuck, it's just not a comfortable layout.

Nobody ever talks about this, but the d-pad is garbage, it's in the wrong place if you play majority 2D games and the whole thing is just not ergonimically designed.

If I could find something like the RS97, but running Android, that'd be it forever.

>> No.5366636

>>5366546
>Sorry for calling you a liar anon
No worries. Honestly, given I have both a Vita and VitaTV, I was worried it was an issue with your hardware manifesting in a weird way. I am glad a simple config reset fixed your problems.
As for PCECD, I can assure you Rondo of Blood works at a solid 60FPS.
At this point, the only console I cannot get generally full speed out of RA (not including the Saturn, as the Yabause core is a POC) with on the Vita is the VB, and that is because the BeetleVB core has not been optimized for it, so it generally runs at half speed (25-35 FPS). It's stupid, but I wish I knew more about the coding side so I could make it run fullspeed just so I can carry VB Warioland in my pocket, but I decided to switch majors to Biomechanical Engineering, didn't feel like being a code monkey for a living.

>> No.5367097

>>5365801
>In terms of using PSP-homebrew Vita is second-class due to missing ME, all I said.

not the same guy as the one you're replying too... so basically you're talking about that you are not taking advantage of anything hardware vita-wise while playing psp homebrew while playing, let's say, through adrenaline, because the vita lacks the ME the psp has?

>> No.5367686

Man the Vita screen is so much prettier and better for pretty much everything including retro gaming in RA.
Even the Model 2 screen is way better if you're not an OLED fag.

>> No.5367694

The Wii is pretty portable. And, it's the only portable console with 240p out.

>> No.5367742

>>5359527
yes. watch modern vintage gamings vid on vita vs switch. basically vita wins until switch developes more

>> No.5367798

>>5362724
based lapis poster

>> No.5367826

>>5363393
The New 3DS has a stronger CPU than the Vita. And the original argument was whether the Vita could run the games at full speed, not whether it was better at doing so than other machines.
What's your point?

>> No.5367845 [DELETED] 

>>5367826
>The New 3DS has a stronger CPU than the Vita
It doesn’t, though. Higher clock speed != stronger.
Compare RetroArch on both of them. The Vita can actually fast forward in Genesis Plus GX, and the PCSX-ReARMed core can run a fair number of games WITH sound enabled, unlike the New 3DS.

It’s a simple matter of software optimization. The Vita can easily handle SNES emulation on par with, if not better than, the SNES VC. Problem is its home brew scene is dead.

>> No.5367850

>>5367826
>The New 3DS has a stronger CPU than the Vita
It doesn’t, though. Higher clock speed != stronger.
Compare RetroArch on both of them. The Vita can actually fast forward in Genesis Plus GX, and the PCSX-ReARMed core can run a good number of games full speed WITH sound enabled, unlike the New 3DS.

It’s a simple matter of software optimization. The Vita can easily handle SNES emulation on par with, if not better than, the SNES VC. Problem is its homebrew scene is dead.

>> No.5367867

>>5367850
>Higher clock speed != stronger
It sure does when it comes to emulation.

>> No.5367918

>>5367867
If the CPUs were equivalent in every other area, sure.

>> No.5367925

GPD something something

>> No.5367930

>>5367867
Look up IPC dude.

>> No.5367960

>>5359527
I play on my smarphone

>> No.5368721

>>5362854
From the same people who start threads complaining that obscure consoles are never talked about when only less than 1% of the population will ever have a chance to own one. Stupid kikes, in other words

>> No.5369072

>>5365612
Im tossed up on wether to get a cheap Android phone (epic 2) or a vita

>> No.5369283

>>5367960
I'd rather get tablet.

>> No.5369331

>>5369072
I’d say would you rather have dedicated controls- that’s the main reason I bought a Vita.

>> No.5369478

>>5369331
Dedicated controls are cool, but i already have a sf30 pro i was finna use with it

>> No.5370992

>>5369478
Is that a Smartphone, or a tablet?

>> No.5371008
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5371008

>>5370992
>not sure if bait or serious

>> No.5371063

>>5359527
What non-8bitdo USB Sega Saturn gamepads are there these days besides random Mainland China or Hong Kong bootlegs and retrolink?

>> No.5371078

>>5371008
I thought sf30 was a type of Android device at first, sorry.

>> No.5372723

>>5371063
retrobit in april (or whenever)

>> No.5373441
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5373441

all this retroarch vs individual emus; I quite enjoy messing around with settings and trying things out, but retroarch seems so bloated to me, specially because I just want to use the snes emulator. Installed it once on the vita, was unistalling 2 hours later, since then I've stuck with a native homebrew vita snes emu, and also a psp emu through adrenaline. At least the games I've been playing run without slowdowns in either or both, after some configs.

>> No.5373456

>>5373441
Can you explain the bloated thing?
At first I felt a little overwhelmed with the ammount of cores and Video options but once you find the best core for each console and leave the other options default, it's nice to have all your emulators in just one place.
Individual Vita emus aren't too good and I'm afraid are more actually bloated than retroarch, besides just being disorganized.

I'd encourage you to give RA another try and be willing to learn it to see how good it is for what you want.

>> No.5373462
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5373462

>>5373456
bloated in the sense it's too much for what I want to get out of it: emulate 2 or 3 snes games. There is stuff in there I'll probably never check out. Yeah, I would give it another try sometime though...

>> No.5373470

>>5373462
Oh, if it's for 2 or 3 games only then I totally understand. I'd still encourage to try RA for that if you want the best experience emulating said games tho. It's not a matter of shilling it, it's more about it's the best option there is for the Vita currently.
At first I had problems with low fps on it but after deleting the .cfg file and starting again I'm running SNES games blazing fast there without even LOLIcon. At most, you have to set a rom folder, tell RA where it is and pick the 2005 core. You can ignore most of the other things since the default options are good enough.

There's also an option for scanning folders and RA will automatically sort your roms by console which is nice and eliminates navigating to folders.

>> No.5373507

>>5373470
Not him, but for me retroarch performed way worse than native emulators for playing snes games. For gba I'm using a psp emulator which is really really good

>> No.5373515

>>5373507
I'm using TempGBA.
I still have to test the VBA Core on RA after fixing my fps with SNES.

>> No.5373541

>>5373515
http://wololo.net/2016/05/11/psppsvita-gba-emulator-uo-gpsp-kai-v3-4-test-4-build-225/

I'm using this one and with the bubble works really good, flawless with everything that I've tested

>> No.5373790
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5373790

How's this thing?

>> No.5373819

>>5373790
OKay, but not as good as the Vita, N3DS, Dingoo a380 nor Coolboy RS-97

>> No.5373820

>>5373790
i've read that it's not so good for long gaming sessions because of it's shape, it also has an inaccesible/unremovable battery in case you want to play only connected to the power socket using the charger. it has the advantage that you can play with a ps3 controller, if you have one, though (i believe the console is required to set it up). Specs should be similar to the psp model before it.

>> No.5374235

>>5361398
How the fuck do you get SNES running on n3DS at a reasonable speed? I've installed the retroarch SNES cores as cias but I'm still getting terrible fucking performance.

>> No.5374250

>>5374235
By installing Snes9x.
https://gbatemp.net/threads/snes9x-for-old-3ds.435568/

>> No.5374253

>>5373790
Horrible.
Softwarewise it's as good as a normal PSP but its shape and button layout makes it prone to fucking hands beyond repair.
It's not comfortable at ALL.

>> No.5374329

>>5367850
>PCSX-ReARMed

Maybe I'm just pants on head retarded, but why wouldn't you just use the adrenaline psp emulator to run ps1 eboots natively?

>> No.5374414

>>5359527
The screen resolution is kinda fucked if you want integer scaling. Gameboy Advance is the only system that really scales up well on it. Having said that, it's a good system for emulating. The screen is very sharp and colorful even if the resolution can be a problem.

The best portable for emulators right now is a modded Switch with a D-pad joycon mod. 720p is the perfect resolution for most games, and with a sharp bilinear scaler even the SNES and NES scale up well with no noticeable distortion.

>> No.5374427

>>5374329
because most psx games run flawlessly with pcsx rearmed and it's more convenient to use, also it's perfectly scaled unless the blurred adrenaline.

>> No.5374429

>>5374414
how is the battery life with the switch and is it easy to hack newer models?

>> No.5374437

>>5374414
It’s not weird at all. It’s half of 1080p, and games get a perfect 2x scale compared to a 4x scale on 1080p displays.

>> No.5374564

>>5374235
Not with retroarch, thats for fucking sure. Snes9x is basically perfecto.

>> No.5376025
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5376025

>>5374414
GPD XD Plus is better

>> No.5376239

>>5376025
>Not GPD Win 2, Vita 1000, Vita 2000, or Coolboy RS-97.

>> No.5376584

now that emuparadise is fucked, where do you guys get your roms?

>> No.5376850

>>5376584
Freeroms

>> No.5376891

>>5376239
Vita is not capable of playing as much as the XD Plus and the Win 2 is horribly overpriced.

>> No.5377002

>>5376584
the eye, nblog, cdromance

>> No.5377275

Just got a Vita for free, what do I emulate and how?