/vr/ - Retro Games

Very obvious falseflag is obvious.

>>5350309
it's the honest God truth

>>5350303
Aptly named game
Final Fantasy 7 out of 10

If you say so. I mean, I played it twice back when it was new and I don't remember any of it.

>>5350496
You're lying

>>5350505
something something domestic terrorism something something sephiroth theme song the end

>>5350303
Whoops, you hit the capital I twice, a common error, just delete one of them and we've got this all cleared up.

Dragon Quest V's first chapter is the most comfy thing I ever experienced in a JRPG.

>>5350303
similar style? Grandia is more comfy, and ff7s story is kinda more memorable, yes... but also thanks to the slimy cancerous fanbase it created, that remind you constantly about the game's existence

SoM was comfier but ff was p good

>>5350505
He's right. I have nothing against FF7 whatsoever but my memories of actually playing it are spotty at best. I was 10 or 11 when I played it and it feels like I played it before I developped object permanence

>>5352551
Seems like you're in the perfect state to replay the game with a fresh set of eyes.

Protip: It's okay, you're allowed to enjoy things! They're going to bully you no matter what they catch you enjoying, your preferences are not actually a factor.

>>5350505
I remember every detail of FF6, but about the only things that I remember from FF7 is blowing up nuclear reactors, Aeris dying, and Sephiroth. It just wasn't a very memorable game.

>>5352579
How many staircases are there in the fanatic's tower? How many times in a row does Kefka say he hates Celes? Where do you find the two Atma Weapons? Which enemy can you steal an Illumina from?

>>5352579
I remember every detail of FF7, but the only things that I remember from FF6 were a bloated roster of characters with no story or growth and a plot that was a beat for beat copy of FF4 down to the half-blood protagonist that opens the game working for an evil empire.

>>5352672
>half-blood protagonist that opens the game working for an evil empire

So, Cloud?

>>5352675
>Cloud is the child of a human and another human, so he's a half blood like the half-Esper and half-Lunarian protagonists of 6 and 4!

>>5352675
7 literally opens with the bombing mission and Cloud fighting Shinra. Have you never actually played the game?

>>5352684
Wow, it skips 15 minutes of intro and goes straight to the "aktually I'm EX-evil empire" bit. So unique!

>>5352608
Steal Illumina? Okay guy...

>>5352683
Cloud has Jenova cells, anon

>>5350303
SO2 is more /comfy/ imo

>>5350512
>>5352551
>>5352579
Trying way too hard.

>>5352608
One is on the floating continent right before you meet Kefka and the Emperor, the other is hanging out in the shitters in Kefkas tower.

>>5352692
Again, it has nothing to do with his opinions or your opinions anons, he's literally hateful of your culture because he's brainwashed to believe that his own lack of joy is someone else's fault and that he can rank up through acts of hate by someone who is literally by design depriving him of pleasure for their own benefit. He's an expendable pawn manipulated by the older generation of his own culture, but he's completely broken in spirit to the extent that he cannot reclaim his own self-determination and can at best emulate the persecution commited unto him by his own elders when he himself comes of age.

He is not allowed to love or enjoy anything so it is literally all he can do to try and bring others to his level, and breaking free of his programing isn't even a dream to him.

To argue with this person or take them seriously at any point is to fall into the same trap he is, of thinking that in this state he is still a sentient human being and not another man's tool imprisoned in a system of lies and abuses.

>>5352725
>FF7 is so memorable that he has to explain the primary plot point of FF7 to a self-proclaimed FF7 supremacist

>>5352748
>I have tapeworms therefor I have half-tapeworm dna
imagine being this stupid

>>5352751
Who said DNA even exists in any of these games, anon? I never once saw the word DNA in FF4 or FF6

>>5352751
I smoke weed so I'm part weed and have weed DNA

>>5352725
Cloud unlocks his power levels before he got Jenova Cells introduced that's why Sephiroth wasn't around for a long while.

See ya next week!

>>5350303
FF6 is better.

>>5352785
this image doesn't make sense such a person always hates themselves and does everything they can to hide it

>>5350303
There are quite a few things I remember about this game.

One of them being "Kalm is so fucking empty and boring". Seriously, Dirge of Cerberus really made this shitty ass town much more interesting.

I think we can all agree that FF8 is the least memorable game in the series. The only thing I remember about the game is the giant robot spider thing in the beginning. Hell, I can't even remember who the boss of the game was.

>>5352949
>town following an explosive climax is literally called Calm
>complains about it not being stimulating enough

>>5350303

Marleens' in the tower at the back. Who was taking care of her? was this ever explained in-game?

>>5352683
>>5352675
>>5352725

FF7 does copy a lot of FF6 story points. They looked at what was popular in 6 and redid them on a bigger scale. Big industrial bad guy city was redone bigger as Midgar, and placed at the beginning. Shinra as the evil empire. Cloud and Terra share some elements together. Mysterious enhanced super soldier whom you start the game with and aren't explained their backstory.

>>5353115
Cloud is more like Celes. They both even have brain damage.

>>5350303
I'm glad u have that game. I remember buying tobal just to get the demo for ff7 bf the full game came out. I beat emerald and Ruby. My favorite comfy jrpg is either Chrono trigger or ff10 though. Just me

>>5352906
>t. University of Reddit Psych Major

>>5353119

Celes and Terra combo then. But made male. He has Terra's role early in the game, and has some elements of Celes too.

>>5350303
>my dudes
why do people keep saying this

>>5352906
cringe and bluepilled

>>5353151
cucked and s9ypilled

Controversial opinion time but my comfiest RPG world is FF8.

>Deling City with that sweet jazz
>Timber and Dollet with their European vibes and comfy interior buildings
>Fisherman's Horizon is chill as fuck

Not to mention the villages and the Gardens. For all the flaws FF8 has, and it's got a few, the world they created is beautiful and comfy as fuck.

>>5353340
>Deling City with that sweet jazz
That was the whole vibe I was hoping for in FFversusXIII/XV but was let down

>>5353346
You and me both.

VsXIII had a lot of potential and XV ended up being disappointing.

>>5350496
This. 4 and 6 I can recall plot start to finish. Years later. I can write essays about the character motivations and themes.

7 was... ok. what does Cloud do that Cecil didn't do better?

>>5350303
>comfy
And now FF7 goes from being my favorite game of all time to least favorite.

>>5353354
Crossdress

>>5353340
im with you

>>5350303
Babbies first RPG

no thanks, I play propper RPGs on PC

>>5353695
>propper RPGs on PC

The ones where every story centers on evil racist humans being racist, homosexual dialogue options, and developers who brag about "hiding" transvestite NPCs in the game?

>>5353136
>But made male
Barely.

>>5353706
No anon, games from the pre SJW faggotry era.

>>5353108
That's the worst argument I've ever seen for defending an underdeveloped town in a game. I can only remember being able to get one cool materia here through a sidequest, but nothing more.

It really is that bad.

>>5353781
>>5353781
>I can only remember being able to get one cool materia here through a sidequest, but nothing more.

?? why would this even be something that matters? It's a town where people live, not a feedback gratification loop to dope up your brain. The point of it is to talk to people and buy and sell some shit and get some direction, chill out and look at the prerendered artwork.

Anon the aesthetic of your life is honestly shit, it's like you don't even know what aesthetic really is.

>>5353785
>chill out and look at the prerendered artwork

Cringe

>>5353807
anon you don't even try, you've already been told by a literal rapist that you're not allowed to love and you fucking took it like a bitch, you're literally getting cucked out of life itself and acting with a sense of superiority for being an involuntary faggot and acquiescing to the demands of an autistic dictator who doesn't even exist

>>5352672
>bloated roster of characters with no story or growth and a plot that was a beat for beat copy of FF4
oh look its this faggot again

>>5352579
I played FF6 for the first time just 3-4 months ago and honestly I don't remember a majority of it.
I recall the early stuff up until the Esper flashback right after the Opera and after that I really only remember the tileset of the World of Chaos map, the end of that one magic tower you climb to get the OP item, the entrance and the exit of the endgame dungeon and the last boss battle with the sick music.

In terms of FF7 I remember a ton more locations and boss battles, although not a lot about the main story after the Temple of the Ancients to be fair.

>>5353115
>FF7 does copy a lot of FF6 story points
More like the whole plot.

>>5353340
Shame they made the story propeling you to exploring it stupid and contrived as fuck.
Simple and dumb is one thing, Complex and dumb is a whole 'nother ballgame.

>>5350303
hi fren, why this game so suk?

>>5354487
Eh, not the whole thing. They didn't implant memories from another soldier into Terra, there wasn't a hard time-skip to a dark world in VII, the individual side-character sub-plots are largely different, the starting location in VI wasn't a massive nation of sorts filled with multiple platters, technology, and slums that often took players hours to get through.

They certainly copy a lot from each other. More than a lot, really. But there's enough different even in the plot alone to distinguish them. Like they're not ENTIRELY the same thing.

>>5354523
Oh I agree the story is far from perfect. The whole game has a special place in my heart due to the world though.

>>5350303
Hilariously overhyped to the point that an original copy of the game in any acceptable state is now easy 20+ dollars, even though millions of the game were made.
Same goes with any other game of the series.

>>5354534
Jesus christ, anon. It's about the big picture, not minor details.

>>5354801
>is now easy 20+ dollars, even though millions of the game were made.

You know those games were selling for like $40-$60 dollars when they were made, right?

>>5354820
Even in just the big picture. Of course the more you simplify it and leave out the more they'll look the same. But you have to simplify it down to a single paragraph to make them fully comparable. Which I do believe is some form of reduction to absurdity, or at least an absurd reduction.

Time to blog:
I was just getting into JRPG's a few years before FFVII, it started with Secret of Mana, and from then, I was hooked, and made sure to keep an eye out for games made by this 'Squaresoft' company.
It still was this 'secret club' more or less, I live in Europe, and 'gaming' may have been upcoming, but JRPG's sure were niche as it possible could be.
In any case, by the time FFVII was releasing, I bought my copy (and still have it) on release day. I had played Chrono Trigger, FF3(VI), Super Mario RPG, Evermore. Pretty much everything I could get my hands on. Internet also slowly started to become a thing, and I remember getting pics, and music files slowly trinkling in, and magazines and even commercials of FFVII.
I was hyped as fuck to say the least.
And even being hyped as fuck, FFVII, blew my mind with how it looked and played. I had, expectations to the moon and beyond by the time I finally played it, and it surpassed it.
After that, the whole world quickly caught on, but FFVII will always have a special place, I don't I'll ever get to experience that amount of hype for vidya ever again (I've grown more mature I'd like to think) and I don't think any game will ever (at least in my mind) be able to raise the bar in one installment as much as FFVII did.
Thanks for reading! (And no, this isn't a pasta or anything).

>>5354917
I know exactly how you feel :)

An angsty, stupid story that could have been written by a 12 year old

Horribly inconsistent in-game graphics

Stupid, pain in the ass minigames

"One of the main character died? I guess we can't bring them back to life by the same method we've done it tons of times before now!" (And don't tell me Phoenix Downs are just for "knocked out" players. Please stop repeating the same G-rated Nintendofied Final Fantasy stuff they fed us in the NES/SNES games.)

Pain in the ass gameplay and combat

Dumb ending

One of the worst FF games, and that's saying something given that even the best FF game is mediocre as fuck. Memorable and comfy, my ass. Go play Ultima, kids.

>>5350303
>>5350315
I liked FF VII well enough but I wouldn't really describe it as comfy. Certainly not the most comfy by far.

>>5355283
A Gameboy fishing RPG? Color me interested.

>>5353807
>reddit buzzword
>anime picture

>>5355643
Cringe is a 4chan meme, anon. You need to stay off /r/eddit, it's rotting your brain.

>>5353750
THEY SURE DON'T MAKE EM LIKE THEY USED TO EH BUD?

>>5355718
I wish the boomer/zoomer meme never made it to this board. It does more damage here than anywhere else.

>>5355709
no it isn't cringe is inherently opposite to the original spirit of 4chan

>>5355741
>>>/r/eddit

>>5355718

>>5353105
That spider is great, and the boss is rinoa/the black haired girl in your party

>>5355747
>posting about shame on a website that is inherently in it's nature shameless
seriously go fuck yourself

>>5353354
>writing an essay about FFIV character motivations
How the fuck do you do that? 100 word essay?

>>5355738
It's okay because it's only used for shit opinions like yours.

>>5355741
>spirit of 4chan

What a reddit thing to say

>>5355751

>>5355718
>>5355751
>>5355915
make pc rpgs great again

>>5355718
This but unironically

>>5355709
Cringe got run into the ground by redditors as a way to shame people who don't participate in hive mind groupthink.

>>5355914
>>5355747
How much do they pay you to keep shilling that site here?

>>5355443
Legend of the River King. If comfy, fishing and rpg peak your interest then It's very well worth playing.

>>5350303
FFIX is more comfy.

>>5355718
yeeeeeuuuppppp *sip*

>>5353785
>It's a town where people live, not a feedback gratification loop to dope up your brain.
You could say the same about pretty much every town in the game. The truth is Kalm is a pointless town in the game. It's only purpose, that I recall, is to trigger some cutscenes for the story to advance. But unlike Dirge of Cerberus', these cutscenes may as well have happened in the overworld around a campfire.

>>5350328
I like this scale. Because X was truly 10/10. Fight me.

>>5356551
the optional content was honestly dumb as shit and the grinding in that game was an abomination

but everything else was kino

>>5352141
Well I must agree.

>>5356548
>You could say the same about pretty much every town in the game.
Well no shit, that's what towns are for. You're literally arguing the game should be more railroaded.

>>5353785
>It's a town where people live

Actually it's a setting in a video game and game designers have an obligation to make interesting settings.

>>5350303
Definitely the best game ever made. People can't understand unless they were there buying it when it came out in 1997. A zoomer would definitely have no idea. Literally no other game like it at the time. Games weren't even comparable to movies back then and people considered it the first game to make them cry. People hadn't seen anything like this before. CGI graphics were basically never seen.

Without a doubt it's the entire reason JRPGs truly came to the west. It's the most overrated underrated best game to ever exist unironically.

>>5356551
I'm the poster you replied to and I like this post, Final Fantasy X marks the best

>>5350303
Comfy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCNZMay1dE4

>>5350303

>>5357604
I bought FFVII new day one, I already owned the imported soundtrack, an artbook and had 3 wall scrolls (I know) and despite it being a solid game, it was the one that taught me to avoid hype. Nothing before or since has ever disappointed me in the way FFVII did.

You're spot on about it being the reason we started getting tons of other rpgs though and that's a great thing.

>>5358571
you guys are rare af. how were disappointed by this in 1997? what didn't disappoint you during that time?

>>5359062
I had recently played Persona which I really liked and was a huge fan of Tomb Raider. To be clear though I'm not saying then or now that I think FFVII is a bad game. But for months prior I was reading everything I could, listening to the music and hyping myself up for it. So I was more disappointed that it didn't live up to my unrealistic expectations but I don't think anything really would have.

>>5357573
obligation is a spook

>>5357559
he probably loves X and XIII

>>5352949
Kalm was cool, not everywhere needs to be chock full of side quests.

>>5360293
yes it does otherwise I'll half to remember how fat and ugly and smallpenised and constantly angry and not a cute anime loli I am and be constantly angry fuck you I am entitled to sex and I am entitled to being babied by eight dozen japanese men I've never met AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA