/vr/ - Retro Games

I'd say the Wii is.

>>5344534
dreamcast

>Playing arcade ports - ever - when you can emulate the real thing

>>5344625
>emulation

>>5344628
>playing games

You can play hundreds of arcade games on PS2, as they are available through many compilations. There are compilation of sega games, taito games, shmups, snk games, capcom games, lot of fighting games, racing, atari compilations. Also there's a lot of "unnoficial" compilations that people made were it multiplies the options. Just get yourself an arcade controller and enjoy. PS2 is definitely my favorite non-retro console.

>>5344773
>You can play hundreds of arcade games on PS2, as they are available through many compilations.
>MFW these are emulators
>Taito Legends, literally developed by members of MAMEdev before half these games were understood properly
>Playing a bad emulation of Operation Wolf with a quarter of the game missing instead of just playing it in MAME where the same people ensured it now works properly

>>5344912
To be fair, getting CRT emudriver and groovymame set up can be hard for some people, and playing on an LCD monitor is unacceptable. PS2 is plug and play.

>>5344625
Setting up MAME is not so easy/obvious

>>5344534
Lol, no. Get that 480i non-retro trash off this board.

>>5344927
So busy listening to DA RULEZ that you didn't even notice the thread is about retro games. (Arcade ports if that wasn't obvious, you brainlet)

Can't wait until 6th gen is added to DA RULEZ. Will piss off so many boomers that 4channel finally caught up to the rest of the internet on what is retro.

>>5344927
Wait, PS2 can't oputput 240p?

>>5344956
ps2 can do 240p, 480i, 480p, 1080i, etc.

GSM.elf can output whatever you tell it, yet it breaks a lot of games since the system needs to work harder to meet the higher resolution demands. Best to keep it to 240p-480p.

>>5344717
>>>/r9k

>>5344534
When the PS5 comes out, The Ps2 and Xbox original will be allowed here. Maybe also the Gamecube.

>>5344954
See, I knew you only made this thread so you could get away with posting non-retro consoles on /vr/.

Mcfucking kill yourself, zoomer-kun.

>>5344628
what's wrong with arcade emulation

>>5344956
90% of the PS2's library outputs in 480i only.

>>5344962
GSM has no impact on performance. What breaks the games is the resolution itself, since they weren't made for it aside from a few exceptions.

>>5344925
Yes it is. You would have to be a complete idiot if you don't know how to set up MAME.

>>5344925
>Setting up MAME is not so easy/obvious
>download merged MAME romset from internet archive, take note of the romset version
>download that version of MAME
>put romset in MAME folder called "roms"
>run MAME
Fuck, how does anyone ever figure this out? It's like rocket science!

Sage for stealth 6th gen thread.

PS5 is coming...

>>5344954
>Can't wait until 6th gen is added to DA RULEZ. Will piss off so many boomers that 4channel finally caught up to the rest of the internet on what is retro.

PS2 is coming to /vr/ in march for it's birthday. Mods have hinted strongly at this. It's all but confirmed at this point.

>>5346257
>PS2 is coming to /vr/ in march for it's birthday. Mods have hinted strongly at this. It's all but confirmed at this point.
It's you again.
>>5344954
>caught up to the rest of the internet on what is retro.
There is no official definition of retro, anon. Some sources claim something has to be 50 years old to be retro, for example.
On /vr/, retro simply means pre-2000.
/vr/ isn't "anon's personal childhood nostalgia board", it's just the pre-2000 vidya board.
Don't like it? Not our problem. E-mail Hiroyuki and ask for /v2k/.
I thought this thread was actually to ask for retro ports, but it's just another "my childhood it's retro too! not fair!" bullshit. Meh.

>>5346257
keep dreaming kiddo

>>5346257

Never, ever. Your tears will remain flowing.

>>5344534
If, those arcade ports were already ps1/ps2 based, sure.

>>5344976
Some notable games are native 240p, like Disgaea and Ico.

Hey guys what are some good PS2 games? I've been playing God of War II

>>5346397
Okami. It's better than every 3D Zelda game.

>>5346397
Call of futuro moderno warfair

>>5346427
Thanks that looks cool. I've been enjoying Toy Story 3. Probably a kid's game but it's fun and the graphics are amazing.

>>5346427
you what. what exactly makes okami better. except for maybe slightly more interesting boss battles

>>5346492
pro: extremely aesthetically pleasing
con: gameplay sucks

There's a reason it only became popular in hindsight: it appeals to modern reviewers' taste

>>5346502
oh, yea thats a good point. but what does that have to do with what you said. also id recommend avoiding the hd versions if possible, the game looks worse on a monitor

>>5346427
Okami, or Okami HD on PS3? Any reason the PS2 version is better?

>>5346527
I've heard that Okami HD is better overall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L54LbYdzlU

>>5346562
Looks great. Any other good PS3 games that are HD remakes of PS2 games?

6th gen will never be allowed here, no one cares about your cancerous zoomer childhood. Reported.

>>5346610
PS3 got a lot of HD ports of PS2 games. Most of them are pretty good.

>>5344773
A lot of those compilations are shite coz they run at 480i.

>>5346614
Different anon, but what if when the PS5 comes out?

>>5347280
>boomers here be like

>>5346614
SIXTH GEN NEVER EVER11!!11!!1

>>5344773
>non-retro
heh, when uncle rules changes his mind you will probably be so busy bitching about 4chan allowing retro talk on /vr/ you will be perma-banned.

Just remember. 4chan is the only site that thinks ps2 isn't retro.

Guys I bought a ps2 and a mchacker card. I'm going to get it all set up when I can. My question is: can this run retro emulators in 240p? Nes SNES genesis ps1 etc? Is it as good as the Wii? How's the Input lag?

>>5347362
The Nes and Mega Drive emulators run ok, but the Snes has some compatibility issues, so a lot of games will run with glitching sound and reduced framerate. If you wanna play emulator, I suggest you get a Wii or a Classic Xbox (a classic xbox can even run arcade games, just install the CoinOPS).

>>5347362
>Guys I bought a ps2 and a mchacker card. I'm going to get it all set up when I can. My question is: can this run retro emulators in 240p? Nes SNES genesis ps1 etc? Is it as good as the Wii? How's the Input lag?
I haven't touched PS2 emulation stuff in years, but it used to be mostly awful. The PS2 just doesn't have the CPU horsepower, so even SNES emulation dropped frames all over the place and was very inaccurate. PS1 emulation is also a bust; while the PS2 has literal PS1 hardware in it for backwards compatibility, you cannot use it in that way while running PS2 software. Therefore all emulation has to be done in software rather than hardware.
There were two PS1 software emulators; one a port of ePSXe from nearly ten years ago. This runs about 80% frame rate for most games and with no sound in the vast majority of them. The source code was lost so it will never be improved. The second was a hacked up copy of an official Sony emulator that was used by Sony on some PS1 reissues available only online in Japan. This apparently works better (with full sound and better frame rate), but only for certain (simpler) games on the platform and I think needs all kinds of messing around to get the games in the format needed to work with it.
If you haven't worked it out yet, homebrew emulation on the PS2 is a massive waste of your time.

>>5347362
Also, you can play PS1 games using Popstarter on PS2. The compatibility list is huge.

>>5347309
>Just remember. 4chan is the only site that thinks ps2 isn't retro.
Wrong.

>>5344969
who died and made you king/queen/xir?

>>5347432
Don't do that. Either emulate on something else or get your PS1/PS2 modchipped.

>>5347454
>don't do that
Why? I don't feel any difference from when I play games on my modded ps1. Do you have at least a valid argument to prove your point:

>>5347463
Compatibility issues and other minor problems

>>5347490
There are some compatibility issues, but nothing so that noticeable to the point of nothing being able to play the games. I think it's still a good alternative for people who don't want to play burned discs on a modded ps1. Another option would be get a PSIO, but I don't how's that going right now.

>>5346261
>>5346269
Time will tell...

>>5344625
Sometimes the ports have cool stuff in them the arcade version didn't.
Sometimes it's easier to connect a PlayStation to your particular monitor + controls, like using a component TV + PS2 HRAP
Some arcade systems are not emulated as well as the PlayStation port could play them.
The PlayStation is a nice little portable set up you can take anywhere and is very user friendly.

>>5347449
Neither me or you are the Mods or Devs. We'll have to wait and see.

>>5345069
Now describe how to play the game in native arcade resolution with the least lag.

>>5344773
If I were building a cab right now it would be set up to run a Dreamcast + PlayStation 1/2. It would have

>lots of good ports
>home brew emulators are also available
>everything can be controlled with a joystick + buttons
>if you my use homebrew/FreeMC Boot there's almost nothing my friends/family could screw up when using it, and to swap to this mode all I have to do is remove the memory card and hdd
>compatibility with a component CRT TV I can use as a monitor
>there are multi-system PCBs available that will support PlayStation and Dreamcast I can use for controls

And most of all: access to perfect versions of all Dreamcast and PlayStation 2 games, many of which are cab friendly and I have neglected over the years of focusing on games from the 80s and early 90s. It's time to move on to the 2000s and explore.

>>5347892
mame -switchres

Either in command line or added to a shortcut. As for lag, I think that's more hardware dependent, but if it really bothers you, look up groovymame.

>>5344534
The Anniversary collection edition of Street Fighter Third Strike is the main reason I haven't sold off that console.

Well, that and Silent Hill 2/3, not to mention the fact that I have yet to finish Beyond Good and Evil.

Perfect systems for playing arcade ports:
>ps1
>ps2
>saturn
>dreamcast

>>5350230
Take the PS1 out and add Wii and we agree.

>>5350232
Ps1 has some cool arcade ports, like Namco museum and some shooters. Fighting games on ps1 sucks really hard tho, like Capcom's (Tekken games are perfect), then I suggest playing them on saturn and dreamcast.

>>5350270
Wii has also a lot of arcade ports, and arcade perfect too.
PS1 has no business as an arcade port center. Maybe at the time, but not now when there's far better options.

>>5350278
Gonna search since arcade ports. Didn't know wii has them. Thanks for the tip.

>>5344969
No and fuck off

>>5350306
>some*
Sorry.

>>5350307
PS5 is not a rumor.

Do you guys recommend buying the horizontal stand?

>>5350483
The fat model doesn't need one to stand up.

>>5350486
But it looks sweet.

>>5344927
Using your interpretation of the rules we shouldn't be allowed to talk about emulation on computers, smart phones, devices like the GPD win, the rare replay pack for xbone, etc unless you they were made before the year 2000. Stop being a fucktard.

>>5347914
>mame -switchres
That won't work by itself.

>>5344534
Give me Taito Legends 2, any day.

>>5350869
Using "but muh emulation" isn't an excuse to discuss modern hardware.
Fuck off nigger.

>>5351001
I was just going on memory. I used to experiment with command line options in mame, and the switchres command was the one that told mame to run in the original resolution IIRC.

>>5351053
>modern hardware
PS2 is older than you'r education level.

>>5351206
PS2 will NEVER EVER be retro. ;)

>>5344625
have fun emulating vf4 arcade.

REEEE REEEE REEEE REEEE IT AINT RETRO REEEE REEEE REEEE REEEE IT AINT RETR~OOOOOOO

>>5351843
The late 90s and early 00s are still a dead zone when it comes to emulation. Games before that are simple enough to make emulating them easy, while games after run on PC-based hardware so they can run natively. Things are slowly advancing, though.

>>5351843
The Naomi 2 hardware emulates fine, dumbass.

>>5350869
>Using your interpretation of the rules we shouldn't be allowed to talk about emulation on computers, smart phones, devices like the GPD win
Also, Any television made after 1999, upscalers, or most doom mods.