/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[2-2] Neural-upscaled textures for Quake 2
https://www.moddb.com/games/quake-2/addons/quake-2-upscaled-pack

[1-26] Odamex 0.8.0 released, now using SDL2
https://odamex.net/boards/index.php/topic,3182.0.html?PHPSESSID=vtj14rfqgmd8se632212rcooq4

[1-22] Hexen Neural Upscale textures
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103770-hexen-neural-upscale-08012018/

[1-22] BloodGDX v0.798 released
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php

[1-22] SM191 for Quake, a mapset inspired by classic
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61678

[1-21] Trenchboom adds experiment support for Quake III
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases

[1-21] GZDoom 3.7.2 released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63346

[1-14] 'Quake 1.5' gameplay mod beta released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-15/news/quake-15-sp-beta

[1-19] Somebody tries implementing RTX tech into Quake 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrq1T93uLag

[1-16] Anon sharing 'Quake Revitalization Project' files
https://pastebin.com/EynaZ460

[1-14] Zanieon releases Doom Church Album
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qblowc7ts7fdqyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdgwYYADH4Q&list=PLIL5wx-DD9NGSPFzz8TAfLssfm-LiftM9

[1-7] Discharge, a 9-level wad for ZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=63169

[1-1] SM190 - Six Textures released for Quake
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/single_player/speed_maps/sm190_pack.zip

[12-31] La Tailor Girl updated to 1.70H
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1085657#p1085657

[12-31] PortaDOOM Cacowards 2018 Released
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

[12-30] 100 Minutes of /vr/ on Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103723-100-minutes-of-vr-half-the-time-half-the-maps/

[12-26] Anon makes a mutator 'ArmorisHitPoints'
https://my.mixtape.moe/lnuzbw.zip

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IT'S THAT TIME OF THE WEEK AGAIN BOYOS

WHAT ARE YOU MAKIN'?

Daisy is the real hero of Doom

>>5341997

>>5342028

>>5341978
damn coverart bj is smug as hell
and what the fuck is that gun

>>5342058

>>5342061
...and then he uses the spear to smash a chaingun display. And so on and so on.

>>5341978
>>5342061
> bj with an ak
> germans with m16s
the gun in the OP looks like a weird mix of calico+oicw+duke3d chaingun

wtf

I'll let you go if you tell me which Final Doom came first: Plutonia or TNT

>>5342083
I'm sorry, anon. We just can't afford the surgery. That gun's gonna have to stay stuck to your hand for a long time.

is this where i come to take about arena shooters
why is simple fragging not good enough anymore

>>5342120
i guess as long as its quake3 or earlier games

>>5342120
i think there's a whole arena shooter general on /vg/

>>5342126
long dead on both vg and v

Is there a proper release date for Sigil?

>>5342120
Came out in '99 so I guess it counts in December.

>>5342078
The fact that id pioneered the first person shooter didn't mean that they actually knew a damn thing about guns. It was always about more of an action movie aesthetic than accuracy.

>>5342123
the newest installment is shit and fucking dead as fucking fuck so there's no point discussing it
>>5342126
it died in december because id fucked everything up

>>5341978
Why would I play odamex instead of zandronum?

>>5342083
cool ranch

>>5342242
What did id fuck up?

>>5342281
Quack Champions, Epic also effectively ensured UT4 won't go anywhere.

>>5342281
It's just an Overwatch/TF2 ripoff but nevermind that.
Not retro.

>>5342323
>UT4
Maybe someday, Epic will bring it back from development hell. Maybe in several years...

>>5342369
Fat chance, they're going the Valve route of running upkeep on a rent-keeping game or two and having other developers do the making games shit.

>>5342281
their new hero arena shooter
dogshit netcode
dogshit performance
dogshit gameplay
they should just scrap the assets and make q1 remastered

>>5342323
>UT4 won't go anywhere
UT4 shouldn't exist in the first place, it only did because UT fans cried hard at Tim Sweeney with petitions and pestering his Twitter to make it.

Honestly, UT fans are worse whiners than competitive Quake players, at least the Quake dudes just says that Quake Champions is not Quake and stay away, they doesn't start a fuckton of petitions to close the game or to make like another Quake 1-like game.

>>5342384
>Dogshit performance
on your underpowered current rig, yeah. My other computer, a Lenovo laptop. has an AMD A12 and 8GB of RAM.
>Dogshit gameplay
suit yourself.

>>5342451
>works on my machine
fuck right off nigger
i bought a 144hz solely because QC was running at 170 fps
now it runs at 40
surely it's my rig and not the retard monkeys in saber right

>>5342281
Wasn't QC done only by five id soft people and someone else?

>>5342451
Post settings

>>5342462
>saber right
Elaborate
>>5342471
I would if I were using that one, but I'm not ATM.

>>5342465
Tim Willits was busy taking credit for inventing deathmatch maps.

>>5341985
A bunch of small things, and a couple of bigger things.

For ICD, the replacement for the 'clipbox' (large bullet pickup), straight gave you 60 rounds of pistol ammunition, and 60 rounds of rifle ammunition, which I always thought was a bit unbalanced.
Instead, there's now an equal chance for spawning a box containing pistol ammunition, or a box containing rifle ammunition, holding 40 rounds each, and going in line with how I changed the grenade ammo pickup and the shell box pickup, it now gives you the ammo in increments of 10, meaning if you only pick up 30, you don't waste the last 10, and so on.

I'll probably work on making the boxes more visually distinct from each other.
I might also change the amount of ammo they contain, as well as the increments you can take.
I did just 4x10 this time, as the way these are set up, I would have to otherwise do like 40+ actors for each box, for each individual cartridge, which ATM would just be tedious.

>>5342384
>make a pure arena shooter
>quakedads continue to play Quake 3 because why change
>change the pure arena shooter formula in any way
>quakedads complain it isn't like Quake 3

The netcode complaint is valid though. Shit's fucking dumb. Best friend who plays comp keeps getting stuck with Eurotrash who choose to connect to NA to take advantage of their higher ping.

The shit netcode and lack of player run servers are what are killing QC. I fucking hate these publishing corporations like Bethesda who can't stand not absolutely controlling everything lock, stock, and barrel.

>>5341979
>>5339538
Anon map release: SCRAP
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file

>>5342451
>>5342573
Not him but the movement is molasses, getting caught on geometry, being pushed/stopped by anything, or just actually engaging in a fight with someone instead of flying past them feels awful because the characters are so slow to accelerate and their run speed sucks. It just feels bad.

>>5342603
>play Clutch
>get caught on some geometry
AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>5342626
>build up sanic speed
>doorway spikes stop you dead in your tracks

>just remembered that there is three wolfenstein games coming out (sequel to colossus, youngblood and a vr title)
>and some comic books
weird thing about wolfenstein's new universe is when this series was known for being one of the first fps then 20+ years later gets a reboot bringing an "expanded" universe that doesn't have much to do with wolfenstein 3d
at least in doom, they bring back older doom designs and are semi-loyal to the previous titles, along with doom 3 stuff like mixon and the d64 chainsaw
it'd be funny if they kept all the games canon so they'd pull an mgs4 by using other games' screenshots as flashbacks
i'm also surprised the apple stealth wolfenstein games weren't referenced in any later wolf game considering wolf3d happened because id just got a series that had no real ownership

>>5342687
shit i remember hearing that wolfenstein could have had a movie adaption from the guy who did the silent hill movies

>>5342573
i was mostly fine with qc until they started butchering the performance
DK was the first major issue
and they added a nigger with a fucking turret

>>5341979
SCRAP - A small abandoned mapset that's been stapled together and shoved out the door, because an anonymous person on the internet reminded me it existed.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file

>trying to set up co-op Quake with a friend
>need to do port forwarding
>need DNS address
>call ISP for it
>sorry residential accounts are not allowed to have static IPs
What the fuck is this faggotry?

>>5342718
>calling your ISP for your current IP address
How do I computer? I mean, you do realize dynamic IPs can be connected to, right? You do realize you can check your router (where you, you know, set up the whole port forwarding) for your current IP address, right?

Jesus fuck, lazy modern gamers. Brain-dead HURR CLICK HERE TO PLAY MULTIPLAYER modern games have ruined you.

>>5342727
Don't I need my DNS address in order to port foward though?

>>5342718
Ignore this unhelpful faggot >>5342727. Apparently he didn't get the memo that hoop and stick are outdated toys.

Who's your service provider? All most setups need to port forward is to go to http://192.168.0.1 and login using the default username and password (it's usually 'admin' and 'password'), then find virtual servers / port forwarding under "Firewall". It's obviously going to vary from ISP to ISP, but that's how the last three I've had have been.

>>5341978
Is Doom multiplayer linked to fps in some way? I was playing coop with a friend through Crispydoom, and we both had terrible stutter until I turned off uncapped framerate and turned on vsync.

>>5342718
>>5342727
You're both obnoxious. But what you can do if you want a static address to connect to, but have a dynamic ip, is run it through a freedns subdomain. So if you sublet from retrogame.com (dunno if that's a real option) you could just tell your friend to connect to "fragz.retrogame.com" or some such.
https://freedns.afraid.org
You need to have a task tray program that periodically checks for updates to your dynamic ip, and reroutes to the proper subdomain on your behalf. "FreeDNS update" is the one you want for windows.

>>5342743
Suddenlink is my ISP. And I'm currently looking at my router using my IP. For whatever reason, it looks like the new router doesn't have port forwarding options.

>>5342771
Never mind, found advanced. Had to open a different browser because the advanced tab wouldn't load on firefox.

>>5342757
Thanks anon, I'll keep it in mind if I can't get the port forwarding that >>5342743 recommended me to work. I think it is, but we'll see once I'm done holding my friends hand through the game installation.

>>5342824
Youd still need to port forward, but it'll give a solid address to connect to. I just misunderstood what you needed.
You can also use it to run a website from a home server which is kinda fun.

>>5342885
Gotcha, I'll keep working on it.

What's the best way to experience Doom 64? Emu? EX?

>>5342940
EX kinda
Retribution is more of a remake with extra levels and sprites

>>5342061
there are so, so many things about to go horribly wrong here

>>5342940
Original cart.

so what would you add to this?

>>5342968
At least one press of the delete key.

>>5342968
the doom comic?

Anything I can do about broken tracers?
Was playing with Babel and it seems enemies can only fire in a straight line

>>5342968
>USMC cqc guide
Is there a section for "punch enemy until he bursts"?

>>5343038
Use a version of GZDoom before Graf "fixed" them by utterly breaking them.

>>5343062
What's the best one? The one directly before 3.7.0? Apparently that one's been breaking a lot of shit

>>5343047
'everything dies if you shoot it enough times'

>>5343065
A lot of people hold 3.4.1 as a decent general one to use right now, it's the last version before a lot of stuff got screwed with.

>>5343079
Thanks

Is there a way to get the super shotgun in doom 1? The only way I know of is to load doom 2 as a pwad and use the all weapons cheat

>>5342968
>Hand to hand combat book

Replace that with a chainsaw manual

>>5343183
import the assets and summon it from the console or import it and have it sometimes drop from a replacement shotgunguy

>>5341985
This map here.

>>5342968
doom bible

>>5342494
Changed rifle ammunition box, wider, and has carry handles on the side.
Contents inside disappear one by one as you take the ammo increments from it.

>>5343221
Pistol ammunition box, shorter in height, no carry handles.
Same deal.

Hopefully they're more visually distinct from another this way.

Anyone got a link to so decent Quake fanart? I could use a new wallpaper.

>>5342940
EX

>>5342949
The controls on N64 suck ass.

>>5342968
You sure that's the right Bible?

>>5342757
You do not need meddle with DNS at all. Just your IP address given by your ISP is enough.

>>5342083
TNT

Not retro I know, but what's the best HL2 Hammer tutorial? And Hammer is the only choice for source/gldsrce games right?

>>5343242
No more than the original games.

>>5341979
The neural Q2 stuff is kinda neat, though it lacks Vanilla weapons and player skins

One of my favourite experiences in Doom was that one level in Community Chest 4 that was actually fun.

>>5342972
>>5342993
>>5343047
>>5343184
>>5343216
>>5343247
tried to make it a humorous clusterfuck, but it ended up being just a clusterfuck

I had fun

>>5342369
They already did. It is called 4tnite

>>5343325
They also have games like Robo Recall that are still active.

>Babel+Demon Counterstrike+LegendoomLite+SoundCaulking

Why did I do this to myself? This is terrifying.

>>5343359
>SoundCaulking
Whats this?

>>5343359
you forgot Champions

>>5343363
It adds new sound effects for any of the monsters in the original games that shared ambient grunts or sound effects, so now every enemy who shared sounds has their own unique grunts, including lost souls, Spectres (v.s. pinkies), Archviles, etc.

There's also a variant which uses the spookier PSX sounds.

>>5343363
Adds variety to monster sounds
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/71133-sound-caulking-now-on-idgames/

>>5343364
How could that make things worse than bable's enemy changes already do?

>>5343367
Where is this from?

>>5342061
uhhhh....

>>5342323
>>5342242
>>5342120
Dirty Bomb was the last gasp of that kind of 1v1 quake/Counter strike style deathmatching, and it's already effectively in a sentient comba.

>>5343374
Wouldn't you like to know :^)

>>5343374
It's something DrPySpy is working on. A multiplayer shooter sorta thing.

>>5343310
Okay, but what would be the Quakeman/Quake soldier /lit/ chart equivalent? And what about for Heretic?

Is No Rest for the Living better or worse than the classic episodes (UD, D2, TNT, Plutonia, Master Levels)?

Asking before pirating it.

>>5343372
for one, its compatible with almost everything
now imagine the babel enemies being able to replicate when shot, red enemies regenerating castlevania style and tons more fuckery

>>5343390
Is that what he has done lately?
How do you know this?

>>5343367
SON OF A BITCH I WAS JUST MAKING A THING LIKE THAT

>>5343391
Ranger? simple, lots of Lovecraft, I suppose US ranger field manuals too?

Corvus? hippie vegan bullshit
and also self help books on how to control your rage

>>5343392
Better without a doubt.

>>5343395
He talks about it in a few servers, seems like he's keeping relatively quiet about it while he works on it.

>>5343392
Waaay better.

>>5342718
>tfw your faggot ISP does not allow port forwarding. You can do whatever on your router/pc - any outside resource/server will report your ports closed

>>5343403
Discord servers?

>>5343367
I wish doomguy's helmet was either tan, black or grey in the new games.

sometimes enough is enough. you don't need to slate every inch of his body some shade of green to sell me on the motif, jesus.

>>5343402
>>5343405
Even better than Plutonia? How about difficulty?

>>5343414
Yep. They're not worth joining if you're wanting to keep tabs on what the guy is doing. I mainly lurk them and glean through all the crap.
He'll probably make some sorta public announcement on it eventually

>>5343398
>Corvus is into hippie vegan shit
How about Grimoires, leechbooks, magical squares, and runestones?

Then there's Caleb from Blood. Besides fire-related books and guides on explosive weapons, I can only come up with texts that talk about voodoo.

Call of Doom BW released
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=63517

What is it about Thy Flesh Consumed that makes it so difficult? Is it hard but fair, or bullshit hard?

Was it intentionally made that way?

>>5341985

>>5343457
>employee of the month
Sciencetits!

>>5343453
E4M1 has no health and will leave you with less ammo than a pistol start if you 100% it, and then E4M2 throws a lot of enemies at you with very little freedom of movement. The rest of the episode isn't nearly as hard once you're past those two maps.

Just wondering cause I don't come here often enough. Is there any more info on SIGIL yet? Preordered the Beast box and it should be out this month. But haven't heard anything else about it

>>5343457
I am intrigued

>>5343506
Can I play Guncaster in SIGIL?

>>5343506
Nobody knows a fucking thing, Romero's been busy doing other shit.
>>5343545
Probably.

>>5341978
>>5341978
Guncaster+Impsense=???

>>5343506
inb4 that Sigil USB comes with a teaser trailer for Blackroom

>finally beat Scythe
I've graduated brews... but only barely. What's next? How's Scythe 2 in fun/difficulty?

>>5343768
It has one or two spikes in difficulty that absolutely destroyed me on my first run

>>5343768
harder, particularly the latter half.

>>5343768
You should play ROTT

I just got through E4M1 and E4M2 on Ultra-Violence, whew lad. Those were some tough fucking maps, specially considering I don't have a mouse with me, just my laptop's trackpoint

>>5343804
Damn homie

>2019
>not playing clusterfuck

>>5343768
>>5343780
>>5343795
>>5343796
Have not played Scythe, how does it compare to Going Down? I beat that on HMP and felt I was nearing my limit.

>>5343836
much easier than going down

>>5341978
Do you guys think the SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME... needs to be updated? There's much better gameplay mods than half of those now.

>>5343919
Got any recommendations?

>>5343924
>Maps/Megawadws
Dead.Air
A mention of Tech Gone Bad/one of Romero's new maps
Comatose or at least a mention of that Lainos school of obscure/cryptic art maps

>TC's
Ashes 2063
Total Chaos
Golden Souls 2
Update Adventures of Square to say Adventures of Square 1 & 2
Doom Delta for that surreal Doom Beta quality

>Gameplay
Lithium,
Guncaster to replace Psychic
Bring up Final Doomer when talking about one of its related mapsets, Possibly Ancient ALiens and JCPC which are already on the chart.

>Possibly a new section for Vanilla improvement mods
Smooth Doom
Sound Caulking
Sprite Fixing mod

The idea being the stuff on the So You want to Play stuff has to be community approved and agreed upon. I'm largely just mentioning the stuff I personally really liked and think adds to a new doomer's experience of getting an idea of the mod landscape and what you can do in doom.

If you guys have any other suggestions, keep adding and discussing.

>>5343931
>>5343924
Oh High Noon Drifter just since it's too interesting and well crafted.
There's at least one newdoomer out there who might see "Cowboy mod" and have their eyes perk up.

>>5343924
Dakka should be on there I think, recommended for slaughterwads.

>>5343931
>replacing psychic
nah. Most of those other suggestions have merit, but I think Psychic should stay.

>>5343924
>>5343931
4chans own mods should have 200/300/100 minutes of /vr/, and probably rekkr.

has anyone ported diablo to the doom engine

>>5343931
Should include Babel on there too
It's not updated anymore but it's really well done

>>5343836
Haven't tried Going Down just yet but Scythe's final few maps are like low end slaughter. Final map is probably the most difficult but it doesn't have any crazy expansive areas with like 1000 enemies around.

>>5343919
agreed it should definitely be updated.
>>5343931
as much as people hate BD, should at least include Extermination Day because it's a solid map pack. Should also include Final Doomer (if it isn't on there already)

>>5343972
No but there is a Diablo mod

>>5343981
Babel is really interesting but I still can't entirely wrap my head around it.
So many of the tweaks are so subtle but they drastically change how you play doom, since you can't rely on enemies to fire at their own slow intervals anymore, they act more realistically.

Some of the tweaks are neat, some of them are just head scratching, like making the double barrel do exactly twice the damage of the shotgun.

The way it plays reminds me of Doom Delta, oddly enough.

>>5344012
>as much as people hate BD, should at least include Extermination Day because it's a solid map pack.
yeah... SGT. Mark does have a few genuinely solid maps in his catalog, it's probably the one thing I like most about him.


Also, thoughts on a WTF category returning? Ye or Ne?
There's a lot of weird, interesting stuff out there that doesn't fit anything else. The original one was fairly shit but now we have notable shit like Lilith, Foreverhood, borderline jokewads like Abort/Ouch...

Or is there no reason to add a new collum and let people find that stuff on their own?

>>5343981
>It's not updated anymore
I'll update it once I'm done with my novel and/or become less stressed out IRL. Really just polish left at this point, and some ideas for the super hard mode. Assuming you play on UV it's functionally complete.
>>5344042
>Some of the tweaks are neat, some of them are just head scratching, like making the double barrel do exactly twice the damage of the shotgun.
It was more like making the shotgun do a bit more damage. I figured that had less chance to break balance since Doom 2 somewhat depends on SSG action for its maps to work. While it does make the shotgun a bit more powerful, I don't think it invalidates the SSG so it's alright. It's odd that you'd compare it to Doom Delta, I played that a long time ago and thought it was pretty neat. Babel's way more inspired by BURL TUMD and Faspons though.

>>5342387
>Honestly, UT fans are worse whiners than competitive Quake players, at least the Quake dudes just says that Quake Champions is not Quake and stay away

i don't hold much regard or esteem for competitive gamers as people or their opinions. 99% of them are just entitled drama queens & divas who believe their own hype. hell, just look at the FGC. it's a hotbed of drama.

>>5342573
>make a pure arena shooter
>quakedads continue to play Quake 3 because why change
>change the pure arena shooter formula in any way
>quakedads complain it isn't like Quake 3
pretty much this everytime.

it's like i tell REfags all the time, voting with your wallet goes both ways so don't complain about your face hurting after you cut off your nose to spite your face.

>>5344053
I do feel sorry for them, at least the FGC gets new stuff that isn't always a disappointment. I do think that a lot of games fail because they try to make it solely competitive, and it doesn't make for a fun game.

>>5344051
>It's odd that you'd compare it to Doom Delta
Replay the latest version of Doom Delta and you'll find that the chaingun serves the exact same role as in BABEL

>>5344063
>I do feel sorry for them
i don't. most of them are scumbags IRL.

>and it doesn't make for a fun game.
it really doesn't. E-sports are the cancer that killed multiplayer gaming as a whole.

>>5344042
Isn't that an old version of the guide?

>>5344083
Huh, it's super accurate though, damn. I'll have to mess around with Doom Delta 2.0 a bit more later.

>>5344051
>spoiler
That was a one in million futile attempt to get a response out of you, can't believe it worked
It's a really solid mod man, I'm just happy to know you're still alive out there somewhere. Hope things get sorted out for you IRL

>>5344042
assuming most of it isn't lost i feel like the old stuff that was removed should come back.

i don't know about the others but in the case of BD it seems kinda petty to basically scrub off what has essentially become the gateway mod for doom because mark pissed in people's cornflakes. whatever happened to separating "art" from the "artist"?

>>5342718
UPnP. Easier fix.

>>5344096
>spoiler
You got pretty lucky, I've been lurking these threads the last few days out of boredom.
Anyway thanks dude, it's looking somewhat good in the future for me assuming nothing goes wrong, so I'll probably be fine. Just gotta not beef anything up too bad while I wait for the chips to fall into place. Glad you like the mod, by the way, it's always nice to hear someone enjoying it.

>>5343310
The Hungarian novels because why not

>>5344101
>assuming most of it isn't lost i feel like the old stuff that was removed should come back.

Honestly I don't see why we can't do a part 2 list of these for WANT TO PLAY EVEN MOOORRE Doom?

Maybe that's a bit excessive, but we already have a few versions of the list, and the doom community is staggering.

>>5343395
Dat Discord

>>5343310

>>5343392
You should try Redemption of the Slain, what was made by the same authors. The most underrated Doom wad ever.

Unused Doomguy lines for the PS2 port of Quake 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYVWRjvjCgM

Smoothio Baron.

>>5344197
thanks, i hate it.

>>5344190
The musings of a dead man

>>5344190
...Why is Doomguy talking?
He shouldn't be wasting his time talking when there are demons to kill.

>>5344207
there aren't actually that many demons in the arena

>>5344197
>>5344198

>>5344197
Really doesn't look all too happy about being what he is now

I recently started playing Heretic (using Zandronum). If I end level with multiple copies same items (for example 3 torches and 2 tomes), when the next level starts I only have one (1 torch and 1 tome).

Is this a bug?

>>5344297
nope

>>5344297
No. Use your items.

>>5344330
>>5344397
So I thought. I learned to play within this limitation after few levels, but it's just annoying. For me major appeal of older shooters is resource management. This feels punishing.

I guess it works, but it is cheap design solution.

>>5344105
hungarian novels?

Thaaat's a lot of Legs.
Also, "Threat level" what's that exactly?
I haven't been keeping up with Complex lately.

>>5343919
>>5343931
A new version of the chart could be a good excuse as any to make a followup to the video guide in the OP, there is a lot of stuff I missed the first time around.
But I may have to wait until Sigil releases and just work on something else in the meantime, I've been an unproductive fuck these past few months.

nice

>>5343919
>>5344042
Maybe instead of updating an already existing list, it would be better to make a Part 2 of it?
Like "So you want to play some MORE fucking Doom?". And maybe even label it as "2019 Edition"?

>>5343796
ROTT is some good old fashioned arcade fun, seconding.

>>5343919
There's still quite a fair deal of mods that hold up fine, but there's definitely some older stuff such as OMG Weapons & Monsters that nobody talks about, I don't even know what the fuck the deal is with Doom 4-like mods either, and of course there's ZScript stuff too. Also that GMOTA finally got past the 1.0 release hurdle.

>>5344479
The scope of the first is already fuckhuge, but a second optional image to augment coverage to pretty much everything well worth playing could be nice. Perhaps more game recommendations at the end of it too.

>>5344454

>>5344454
Two of them

>>5342968
A note under the old KDITD novel suggesting there are three followups to it, but that they grow increasingly optional with each entry.
I mean I like them for what they are, imperfections and flaws and all, but by the last one the story isn't very 'Doom' anymore, feeling more like some of Team TNTs non-Final Doom stuff (I vaguely get pictures in my mind of parts of Icarus : Alien Vanguard, Daedalus, and Eternal Doom, by the end of the third book).

It feels like they did two novels based on the games, realized they ran out of game to write about (Final Doom might not have been out yet), and figured, they still had contracts for two more books, so uh, like spin them off into just some sci-fi adventure or something.
The authors wrote a lot of Star-Trek novels, so I imagine that both colored the stuff they did write around Doom, and also the stuff they didn't, in how they explore weird sci-fi ideas, and how they wouldn't be constrained by the characters, themes, and typical tropes of Star-Trek (because let's face it, Captain Kirk is an absolute chad, but him and Doomguy approach problem solving from usually pretty different angles, not to talk about Picard, who generally would always seek the most diplomatic solution at any time).
The fourth book gets oddly existentialistic.

>>5344297
>>5344447
Every level is designed with you not having any stock of items at the start in mind.
In fact, items are way too OP in Heretic - stuff like Morph Ovum, Chaos Device, Mystic Urn and (obviously) Ring of Invincibility are all very potent and make the level much easier when carried over from the previous one. Not even counting Tome of Power as they are present almost everywhere.

If you were to stockpile Quartz Flasks and Mystic urns that would turn even the hardest level into a cakewalk.
You dom't want that, do you?

Also it's an incentive to use the items and not stockpile them. I know quite a lot of people who would stockpile all the tomes of power "for the better occasion" and not use them until the episode is over, thus missing out on one of the coolest features of the game.

This way you can always keep one copy of an item "for later". Found another one? Better use it soon!

>>5344493
>>5344495
Are they about aliens too?
Or do they follow the "Demons out of literal hell" line?
Or are they barely related at all?

>>5344530
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/98105-hungarian-doom-novels/

>>5344486
Wasent there a version of this image circulating around that was actually a renamed zip file with all the wads contained within?

Itrs possible to convert MD3 to quake 2 Md2

>>5344526
>Also it's an incentive to use the items and not stockpile them. I know quite a lot of people who would stockpile all the tomes of power "for the better occasion" and not use them until the episode is over, thus missing out on one of the coolest features of the game.
I know that feeling. I used to do it with weapons and saving powerups. Now I just go for it when I find them and my enjoyment has gone up immensely.

>>5344631
Maybe, but embedded files have been disabled for a good while.

>>5344631
That'd be a preeeetty big file

>>5344486
It'd be nice to have a part of the image dedicated to other doom engine games like Heretic, Hexen, Strife, etc

I like cute

what's the best map to play hideous destractor on?

>>5344801
If it's your first time, the original 3 episodes are pretty mild and gets you into it.
E2M2 in particular is a very well suited map.

>>5344812
gee thanks already played both doom 1 and doom 2 with hd

>>5344815
Time for TNT then

>>5344821
freedoom 1/2 are they alright?

>>5344815
You might want to check out Doom the Way id Did

>>5344824
Those aren't TNT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2bswqq0P4o

>>5344831
I'm sorry Fred I'll go play TNT

>>5344832
Bordering on daily dose at this point

>>5344815
Well alright, then I'll suggest Suspended In Dusk

>>5344759
A small "that's so raven" section. I would t spend screenshot space on it, but a small text list of the bigger mods (all 2 of them) might be worth it

>>5344835
Ok

>>5344042
UPDATE THIS PIC! Also someone please make a Quake and Build Engine equivalent.

>>5344832
Here's to hoping that the bugs get fixed in an update someday...

I severely underestimated the workload of creating seven distinctive texture sets with average of 100-150 tiles per set, not counting all the themed decorations/sprites.

>open doom builder
>make one room/corridor for an idea
>"okay this works"
>close doom builder
>repeat the same thing every day
I will never ever not procrastrinate

>>5343506
We're all waiting for Sigil. It should be released in one week or two.

>>5344885
corridors.wad
Cut/paste

>>5344885
You need to set goals for yourself. What do you want to accomplish?

>check out new version of hideous destructor
>you have to enter fucking passcodes to make custom loadouts

>>5341978
My current Zandronum Saves don't work anymore. When I pick a save, it says stuff about ACL modules. What do?

>>5343924
metadoom

>>5344101
The issue with BD is when the mod has actual problems to make it bad but nobody brings it up, making it look like bullshit despite the 0.L glitch being real and those screenshots back in '17 for V21 with all those bugs and shit.

>>5343813
What's this?

>>5344871
i've been saying that said pic needs new stuff like Golden souls 2, Metroid Dreadnouight
Also the Quake one needs a update asap now that Quake Injector is out of question, + Something for Quake 2 like Port demonstrations for Yamagi, Q2Xp and Q2Pro, UNIT suggestions and such.

>>5344459
meant for >>5343813

What about different images for seperated categories?
>How to get the games and source ports
>Mods
>Wads
>TC's
>Where to get them
>Historical relevance stuff
>Known modding related authors and creators
>How to get good at Doom

Do I have any better alternatives for Shadow Warrior than Shadow Warrior Redux?

>>5344667
>>5344713
My copy that I got from said image forever ago
Semi big file yeah, sadly don't have the original image zip combo anymore

>>5344873
Yeah lad, that's gonna take some work.

>>5344946
?
Shouldn't you just be able to go into the menu?

>>5344101
>>5345020
It's not often you can really discuss it's actual issues or anything because the default for a lot of the community is to automatically lose their shit at the mention of it, and at that point you just get chinese whispers of the developer eating puppies for breakfast.

>>5344832
>Constantly makes backhanded remarks and just complains about everything, even things as small as loading being one second longer
>Won't stop sucking off Arcane Dimensions
Well that was crap.

>>5345080
Sure, but then you see this.

>>5344832
This guy is awful, why would anyone watch this?

>>5345178
it's pretty good once you get used to it, but for more complex loadouts you'll really want to edit the .ini directly
just search hd_loadout and you'll find the strings

>>5345185
>150 berserk packs
what did he mean by this

>>5345185
>I was going to do something like this one time to allow a progression system to save between maps
>I implemented a basic version, then decided it was retarded and too complicated to be practical
>Meanwhile HD just throws it in and asks users to interact with it directly instead of automating it
Fucking madmen

>>5345189
I'm cooking with gas.

>>5345192
He even implemented a new selection menu that lets you customize the name and icon for your loadouts

>>5345201
Jesus christ I can only imagine the pain involved. ZScript menus are bad enough when you're doing regular shit.

>>5345201
And this is what that looks like in the .ini
it's actually really easy

>>5345189
A backpack full of Berserk.
Surprisingly viable way to play.

>>5345201
>150 zerker packs

>>5344526
You are right when it comes to balance, but I wish they would done it differently.

>>5343804
>not uv -fast

>>5343919
is there an index with anon maps?

>>5344197

>>5344650
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=md3+to+md2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX4ziEZRftE

>>5345327
Well shit...
I didn't even know i had epilepsy
until now...

>>5345327

>Why yes, I do consider Heretical Doom to be the best weapon mod ever made, how did you know?

>>5345327
this is the worst shit I have ever seen holy fuck

>>5345327
Is this supposed to be good?

>>5345327
>**EPILEPSY WARNING**
how nice

>>5345327
>Rated "M" for "Mature"
The irony is palpable.

>>5345327
Is this Doom for Zoomers?

>>5345379

>>5345327
is this meant to be ironic?

>>5345327
Why

>>5345390
These are the same people who tried th NDA testing their mod, had a publicly accessible github called "totally not hentai here" and lost their shit when it was found, and best of all their discord got purged because the admin got the fuck social engineered out of him and lost control of his account.

They're just that retarded.

Finished Dakka with 50 Monsters.
It's great.
>>5345416
Wasn't their Discord hacked because someone let someone else use their Steam account, which shared its password with a Discord account?

>>5345327
>a really edgy kid's myspace page
I chuckled

>>5345442
Dakka's so fucking comfy.

Also yes, that's exactly what happened.

>>5344190
it's like Shadow the Hedgehog trying to be Caleb

>>5345327
thanks, I hate it

Are there guides to Strife scripting? Adding custom voice files and the like?

>>5345484
I'd also love to know, because I recall that shit was inflexible as fuck.

>>5345327
Is that a fucking Trailblazer machete
I cant tell since everything is so fucking blurry.

>>5345327
I like how they take obviously ironic comments seriously

>>5345484
IIRC it's mostly hardcoded, so you'd better use GZDoom's counterparts - look up how it was done in Golden Souls 2 and WolfenDoom

>>5345543
Yes, it's the quick melee that isn't the kick.

PB liberates assets from fucking everywhere and then halfway attempts to make out they were always made to fit together.

>>5345553
>look up how it was done in Golden Souls 2 and WolfenDoom
The Strife support in project MSFix'd is probably a better option to chec.

>>5344832
This feels less "first impressions", and more some prick making a video to circlejerk with his elitist friends about how apparently bad the mod is

>>5344832
>>5345593
The only problems I have with Q 1.5 are:
1) Replaced some monsters with those jumping small spiders, and no option to disable them unlike some other replacements
as if we don't have enough small annoying enemies in FPS already.
2) Did not commit to updating the levels, increasing the details to some of the vanilla ones, and leaving others look bare in comparison.

>>5345593
Given how that the rest of the channel is saner, that's certainly the case.

>>5345327
Are people really surprised that the developers of a bruddit doom fork are immature and incompetent in every aspect?

>when a build door squishes you

>>5345353
Someone really needs to make a good Heretic weapon mod with actual reworks of original weapons that do not feel like pew-pew lasers

>>5345327
made a youtube account just to dislike this

>>5345650

>>5344190
Nice abs

With the release of RE2 Remake recently, I decided to throw something a little silly together using Hideous Destructor, Ashes 2063, modified assets from Codename Hunk, and some other mutator mods. It's definitely pretty janky, but functions well enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-vKxG33Tio

Has anyone made a mod for DOOM that re-activates the original intended behaviour of Pain Elementals?

ie, that they'll bite you if you get too close, so you can't cheese them anymore by just staying right in their face

>>5345636
>Are people really surprised that the developers of a bruddit doom fork are immature and incompetent in every aspect?
At least half the PB development team are whiny dickbags who resent the fuck out of BD almost as much as zdoom does.

>>5345696
That should be really easy to do.

>>5342573
They didnt change it in a good way though
>we gave half the characters ultimates that are just press F to win buttons, and the other half are useless or incredibly situational passives
They fixed it in a recent patch but damn how could such awful design be allowed for years

>>5345696
I've done it on a personal mod, gave it slightly more than a pinky bite if memory serves.

I'm sure somebody's done it in an actual release by now.

Watched a few videos of overhyped Ancient Aliens and Eviternity wads.

I'm literally speechless how AWFUL they are, and I won't play a single minute of them, that's for sure.

First, what are these shitty neon colours everywhere? Neon green, neon yellow, neon purple. Then we have new (and badly fit) textures, switches, unnecessary modifications to monsters like the Pinky, which was recoloured in both wads. Why? The original colours were fine, the entire Doom aesthetic went down in the toilet in these wads.

Then the levels. Watched many level videos to ensure you: all fucking levels are the same. THE. FUCKING. SAME. These authors simply lack proper vision to build levels within their own imaginations.

What are these levels then? All levels are like giant, sprawling, Unreal like non places. Wow, open places everywhere, wowey wow, giant towers are looking at you outside the play area.

And the gameplay. The same fucking shit. The same fucking slaughter shit. Early on, they somewhat pretending you are in Unrealised, neonised Knee Deep in the Dead. Then after like stage 20, you are just circling around hordes of irrelevant hordes of clustered enemies.

No progress, no variety, no imagination. Typical hackwork by virgins. Sorry to say that, but if you want good levels, go and play Romero's early maps, the Casalis' brilliant Plutonia, NRFTL or wait for Sigil. Avoid these hackworks at all costs.

>>5345731
>someone will take this post seriously

replacing the polygon renderer with a vertical scanline renderer. for now it's buggy and slower (SGDK's polygon renderer is 68000 assembly that's been optimized to hell and back), but has the potential to be faster when I optimize it.

>>5345692
ANON we need a Resident evil DOOM using the original FPS concept of the mansion
>https://www.shacknews.com/article/98623/what-resident-evil-could-have-been

>>5345731
I remember playing BTSX episode 1 back then. The first 10 or so levels at least. By that time I realised the wad is remaking the same level for 32 times, so it doesn't deserve the timesink. That was another clear case of hack wad.

>>5345740
>and someone is already being an (((enabler)))

Speaking of RE how much of that series' monsters would be cool for Doom?

>>5345753
I'd like some basic, unarmed zombies, like just a corpse in varying states of decay and dress, who tries to eat you.

>>5345740
They should. I guess Doomworld babbies are living in their ivory towers, they badly need some reality check from the outside world.

What the actual fuck did American McGee mean by this???

The bars here appear as a solid wall from the player's point of view in the key room. Pic related room is full of shotgunners and a Baron that teleport in to the key room's stairs when they see you through this wall, but they can also shoot at you through the seemingly solid wall while they're waiting for their turn to teleport.

(Taken from E4M1)

>>5345774
From the player's PoV

>>5345593
>and more some prick making a video to circlejerk with his elitist friends about how apparently bad the mod is
????

>>5345774
Are McGee and Petersen still making levels? I would love to see them to re-enter business and if they have improved.

Is Good Morning Phobos good?

getting closer

>>5345741
congrats on replicating the slimetrail bug lol

>>5345810
yeah it's basically the same thing although a problem in my renderer code, rather than a problem in the bsp compiler

>>5344216
Is this a broken graphics card or did you do math wrong

>>5345789
Last I saw, American was doing some FPS thing on the side with some indie dev who's known for not releasing Seedscape.
https://twitter.com/GMShivers/status/1077421577380159488

>>5345802
It's got some pretty good levels and a few frustrating ones.

>>5345327
Well that video was ass. So can you finally shoot the bodies in the new PB?

>>5345692
now THERE'S an idea...

>>5345692
The map reminds me of Silent Hill 1. WOuld be cool if you could get proper misty fog in the distance instead of pure blackness

>>5345789
sandy peterson makes tabletop games
american mcgee moved to hong kong to make mobile games

>>5345827
Very accurate. It also has instaspawn enemies in a few spots. Like not even teleporting, they just appear out of nowhere.

Since it's been brought up, does anyone know the music used in Good Morning Phobos? The songs in map 08 and map 22 or 23 were really familiar, but I couldn't place them. Bugged the hell out of me.

>>5345742
>>5345753
>>5345764
>>5345837
Heh
https://my.mixtape.moe/vbficn.webm

>>5345671
>E1 secret level
>That fucking cabinet with the doctor's bag

>>5345903
Yeah but I was thinking with actual good sprites, not shitty old 3D models.

>>5345920
the shitty old 3d models fits with idtech, the problem is adaptate them

Bone Duo.

>>5345920
Those are sprites created from the original 3D models, but I get what you mean. Having civilian zombie sprite sheets in Doom's art style would be pretty neat.

>>5345774

>>5345774
consider the following:
_____________fuck you____________________

>>5345948
I fucking love that image.

>>5345789
i think mcgee is currently braving the real life hellscape known as "China" trying to find a developer for the next Alice

>>5345953
Why? :(

>>5341978
never knew it was roddy piper that won world war II

>>5345731
>Muh opinion is 100% FACTUAL!

I'm trying to play doom rpg, but I get this error message. How do I fix this?

>>5342078
>BJ with AK-47
BJ confirmed for Soviet collaborator?

>>5346058
By not playing that trash.

Anybody got an answer for
>>5344980?

I am playing hideous destructor, and whenever I fire a shot, the game crashes. What do I do?

>>5346085
play beautiful constructor instead

>>5346085
that's a feature, it's a pacifist mod.

>>5345650
The build manual gives tips how to offset that problem.

Also, a few code changes and no moving sector can crush you anymore.

>>>/wsg/2650582
>>>/wsg/2657472
>>>/wsg/2657475

Fucking hell, Scythe 2 + GMOTA becomes fucking impossible on the last few maps. Playing on UV. Then GZDoom fucking crashed.

>>5346089
>Open world crafting and building game in Doom.
Is that even possible?

>>5346113
I beat Scythe 1 & 2 with GMOTA on UV

>>5346126
Fuck that last map, crashed two times.

>>5345731
I'm not sure if I'd called them complete hack work but I definitely agree that ancient aliens lost me half way through with that slaughter map bullshit. It seems like every map was flip switch, activate horde closet, the rinse and repeat. Shame since the first episode was mostly great.

Any recommendations for good megawads that are hard but don't devolve into slaughter maps?

is there a mod that lets you dash and walljump everywhere like in Mega Man X?

>>5346161
Yeah, the Booster mod that Term is working on will be right up your alley. It's not done yet but it should be soon.

>>5346173
>soon
TM

>>5346173
I'll keep an eye on this.Thanks.

>>5346104
What mod is this

>>5345731
>unnecessary modifications to monsters like the Pinky, which was recoloured in both wads. Why?
Huh, what? No they aren't.

>>5346058
Your GZDoom breaks it.

Downgrade.

>>5346219
Burnt Lamb.

>>5346179

If you want to play around with it, here's an (unfinished) build. Some items are tentative, graphically there's a LOT that needs to be done, things are super-imbalanced, etc.
To dash, hit Sprint + Direction (hold Sprint + Forward to drive). Hit Reload for a different kind of dash, a damaging one that hurts enemies. To wall-grab/jump, hit Use against a wall while in mid-air.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KDEhZBi4V1iLN4Z0Sw0obw4INFaNC-3s/view?usp=sharing

Lemme know if you have any complaints or criticisms, please.

>>5343367
this is giving me serious atomic bomberman flashbacks

>>5346239
Burnt Lamb looks like shit desu

>>5345293
underrated

>>5346246
Just gave it a test run. I'm not a modder so I wouldn't know if things are working the way they're supposed to, but this was a lot of fun to play with. I was very impressed by that time slowing power in particular.

>>5345741
How much faster do you think?

>>5345327
man that shit is old.

>>5344946
Hideous, ain't it?

I've been making my way through Arcane Dimensions for Quake, I'm liking the new monsters and weapons, it's clear that this was a very ambitious and passionate project. Are there any other similar packs for Quake, total conversions or just add ons? Does Quoth have a map pack for it?

That triple barrel shotgun feels so satisfying to crew through enemies with, though gibbing stuff means no drops.

>>5346060
That wouldn't make any sense, the AK47 wouldn't really become a thing until after the war was over.
If we look at the (somewhat crudely depicted) rifle closer, it appears to have a 'palmswell' handguard, something which wouldn't become a thing until the AKM in 1959, and the magazine has way too little curve to it to be for the 7.62x39mm cartridge, looking more like a magazine for some AK in 5.45x39mm, or 5.56x45mm NATO, which is something you'd start seeing in the 1960s and 1970s.

The gun is an absolute anachronism, which is actually fairly common for the old Wolfenstein 3D covers, the OP image is one example, where we see a WW2 era German soldier with what appears to be some sort of AR15, which is decades out of place.
Looking at the SNES cover, everything is out of place, looking more Cold War era than anything, with a Beretta 92, IMI Uzi, and an M16A1 (actually faithfully depicting a non-firing replica model). Given how the SNES version was censored to be "Totally not WW2 or Nazis, guys!" due to Nintendo's policies at the time, this one could be intentional though.

Also he's Polish-American, which would make it somewhat less likely (but not impossible).

>>5346060
More of a time traveler

>>5345692
Yeah, since the release I've been theorizing how you could design a Resident Evil style game in GZDoom. Mainly thinking of how you would make "inspect able puzzles" like in the original.

>>5346424
"This pillar seems loose. Looks like I can UNF it."

>>5346380
In terms of just the rendering routines, the polygon renderer has to do extra work versus the vertical scanline renderer. I don't know if it'll be that much faster though, since the SGDK polygon function is fully unrolled and highly optimized 68k.

If you're comparing it to my previous posts in the last thread though, those weren't using any occlusion culling at all, so the engine should end up significantly faster than that overall.

>>5346507
>>5346380
and in case it's not clear, drawing in vertical scanlines is what allows doom to use simple 1D and 2D culling, which makes it fast. arbitrary polygons are much harder to cull, you need z-buffers or span-buffers, which are not feasible on a 6.7MHz 68000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_eZNejXCk0

>>5346565
>2000x2000

>>5346643

>>5346675
big pain

I love ZScript but why does it tank so hard on literally everything

>>5346728
What do you mean? Performance-wise it's pretty good actually.

>>5346741
Then I guess I'm just terrible at optimizing my code.

>>5346748
Post the code? It's pretty easy to do basic optimization, but some stuff is going to be heavy regardless. Depending on what you're doing there are also some dumb tricks you can try to change how the code runs, reducing calculations per tic.

>>5346728
What are you making, anon? Always curious.

>>5346752
>>5346761
Commenting A_ItemBeam() out makes the VM go like 2 or 3 ms faster, so it isn't the problem here. I'm sure what slows the game down is that the actor checks all six weapons every tic, however I can't come up with a solution other than creating ammo pickups for every single weapon.

>>5346770
Oh and also, the parent class only defines hitbox and the A_ItemBeam() function.

>>5346770
Oh lordy, bro I gotta tell you, that's some pretty non-ZS zscript. Make a function that calls
>bool CheckInventory(class<Inventory> itemtype, int itemamount, int owner = AAPTR_DEFAULT)
and return the appropriate ResolveState, with ResolveState("Null") if you want the item to vanish. What you're doing right there is hellish to read. You could even try having all the ammo you want to fit certain checks inherit from a shared type, but I'm not sure if that works for CheckInventory (in a real language it probably would but you never know with ZS).
If you want to benchmark certain lines, try printing results of MSTime() to get how long each function took to execute.

>>5346783
>Oh lordy, bro I gotta tell you, that's some pretty non-ZS zscript
Yeah I'm pretty new to this stuff. Thanks for the tip tho.

>>5346797
I'd say look at ZS mods, but most of them are pretty janky inside as well. Really I'd say just learn how to avoid TNT1 A 0 spam using code blocks, understand how the built in functions work, and when possible try to abuse class inheritance. I did that a bit with stuff like https://pastebin.com/DG1zYj6n but it may not work in your case without more massaging. Anyways good luck dude.

>>5346752
Is there any way to do heavy stuff and not have it tank performance?

>>5346826
Well by heavy I meant stuff like "iterate over everything in the map then iterate over everything else then draw rays between the pairs to check something and execute a function if the vector the ray makes has some property" or some other crap. You're never going to get stuff like that to be as fast as lighter stuff, but depending on the effect desired you can fudge it a bit. For example, I had a function that needed to iterate over a shitload of monsters and then have them compare LOS with them, which ran on that same shitload of monsters. When built in the "normal" way it was slow as hell. However by simply staggering calls so not every monster checked every frame and then multiplying the magnitude of what was going to happen every frame by the number of skipped frames+1, I sped it up considerably and the net result was largely the same.

>>5346832
Oh, right, I forgot to add that that really slow function ran on every tic as well. So if there were 100 monsters running it then 100 monsters iterated over at least 100 monsters EACH every tic, and then did raycasts/LOS checks.

>>5344796
this, desu

>>5344796
don't ever post this abomination again you tumblrite pink haired faggot

>>5346908
>implying

>>5346958
holy shit
acceptable framerates

>>5343392
>>5343419
No official add-on could top Plutonia, but No Rest For The Living comes pretty damn close. Levels play great and have the right amount challenge, that's expected from modern Doom level pack. Levels also look absolutely great, even though there isn't any new textures.

I bought BFG Edition from Steam sale just to get No Rest For The Living, and the price was worth that alone.

>>5346958
IMO colored wireframe also looks much better.
Since this one lacks Doom's fake contrast, the adjascent walls blend together. In Wireframe mode they are visibly separate.

>>5347004
I could implement fake contrast for orthongal walls pretty easily, I think doom only does it for those walls too. Texturing distinguishes everything else.

>>5347008
Doom uses fake contrast for every wall, depending on its angle it's just fairly subtle

>>5347018
According to this page it's only orthogonal walls in vanilla doom
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Fake_contrast

>>5345731
I would never judge wad by youtube video. I just have to feel the gameplay yourself, or the wad will automatically look like shit.

I enjoyed Ancient Aliens (like the rest of Skillsaw's wads), but Eviternity did bore the crap out of me, but not for the reasons you mention. I played few maps and outside the pretty texturing, the gameplay felt like dated 90s wad. Encounters weren't interesting or challenging. There was just monsters put into the map without any planning to create fun and challenging battles. The maps themselves just dragged and there was no real sense of progression. New monsters felt pointless and didn't add anything to the roster. It's not the worst wad ever, but it's nothing special either. Just overrated.

>>5346908
You will immediately cease and not continue to access the site if you are under the age of 18.

>>5347031
>not liking the My Little Pony aesthetic in Doom equals being under 18 now
Ok.

>>5344796
now go redraw every sprite in this style
with all rotations

>>5347035
what are you, gay?

>>5347038
I'm hard gay, not tumblr fag.

>>5347035
>>5347042

>gotta name drop another Thing I Don't Like because i got outed

Oh nononononono

>>5347042
so, do you bugger men
or do you get buggered by men?

>>5346396
Xmas Jam 2018 has the Arcane Dimensions stuff with shitloads of maps to be selected from the hub map.
Qump doesn't have the new monsters or weapons, but it's got the hub and also lots of maps.

>>5347042
People can like things you don't, my dude. If a drawing bothers you that badly then go take a walk around the block and get some air.

>>5346908
Good job. You fell for bait.

>>5347091
Was that post in particular supposed to be? Or was it another case of a crossboarder being mad that not everyone has the same taste as it?

>>5346958
Probably not a priority atm but if this can run on real hardware my dick will hit orbit

>>5345731
that's nice dear