/vr/ - Retro Games

Depends on whether you want an anime party or the classic D&D experience.

FF1 is worth checking out, being the one title in the series with the most D&D-esque feel.

FF4 was the first entry in which the main story is more than a passing note at the service of combat and exploration.

>>5333813
I think 4 is the worst game in the series and laid the foundation for the series relying too much on story abd characters at the expense of interesting gameplay. 2 and 3 remain among my favorites.

I want FF4 on NES....

>>5333869
reminds me of first getting onto the world map in FFIX and seeing airships fly around
I was so disappointed later on. You learn that other continents are desolate, and most airships need mist to fly so there isn't any airship traffic later in the game. FFIX really dropped the ball for me and the world ended up feeling so much smaller than any other game in the series; FFX literally has more towns and activity in the world than IX.

>>5333869

>>5333945
>Cook
>Carpenter
dafuq?

NES JRPGs are superior to SNES and PS1 JRPGs. Rather than being bogged down with story and characters they are a pure resource management and progression experience.

>>5334084
If I wanted to run a spreadsheet in Excel I wouldn't play games. That kind of thinking is what turned JRPGs into trash. It's all bigger and bigger numbers that become meaningless because 64581 isn't really different than 66970 but you eat it up anyway since there's lots of sparkly bits flying around and a combo counter. Pure trash.

>>5334097
I think you totally misunderstood what he was saying. It was the focus on story and characters that lead to battle stats and strategy being meaningless and just covered up with shiny combos.

>>5334107
Precisely. I have replayed FF1 over and over again over the years because of the variety offered by different party choices and the lack of story getting in the way of my constant dopamine rush. What's the point in playing FFVI more than twice when you've already seen it all?

>>5334128
And for some reason there are more people willing to play VI than V.

>>5334084
>FFII
>Good

nah

that game is an unbalanced poorly designed mess.

>>5334382
Wrong. See: Four Job Fiesta
>>5334389
Sure, but 1 and 3 make up for it. I was more referring to NES JRPGs in general than just FF, but FF1 and FF3 are fantastic examples.

>>5334389
Opinions. I'd gladly play 2 a dozen times over again instead of playing 4 once more.

>>5333896

They should have taken the idea that Takahashi and his wife had for VII, tweaked it a bit and gave us that.

>>5333869
It's called Final Fantasy V and it was released on Super Nintendo in the 1990s.

>>5334879

Don't recall there being shops for airships in V.

>>5334879
I don't remember there are jobs like Cook and Carpenter in FF V.

4 5 and 6 are all you actually need.

>>5334928

Just give us the Invincible.

>>5333869
That whole thing, including the screenshot mockup, is essentially the Japanese equivilent of an April Fools joke.

>>5334960
I think Enix talking about Super Chocobo nuclear equipped airships should have given it away.

>>5333813
I want to, but you forgot I, II, III, VIII, IX, X, XII, Tactics, and Tactics Advance.
There's no such thing as a main entry game or a Tactics game that isn't worth playing, so long as it was made before 2007. Everything after 2007 has been a massive hit or miss.

>>5335037
I thought I liked Tactics until I started playing Fire Emblem

>>5333813
>Final Fantasy IV to VII is all you need
How wrong can a faggot be?
Tactics and VIII exclusive replayer master race reporting in.

>>5335068
What? FFT and TO are a thousand times better than Fire Emblem.

>>5335191
>T and VIII
Weird taste. T is my favorite of all time but I hate VIII. I'm interested: what is your reasoning? They are vastly different games.

>>5335201
shit posting aside I haven't played much of the rest, they bore me to death, on the other hand those 2 kept me happy moving shit around in menus messing around with the game engine, to either break it or create a perfect harmony that I can appreciate.

>>5334396
>Wrong. See: Four Job Fiesta
How is Four Job Fiesta more popular than FFIV or FFVI?

>>5333813
>Believe me.

Donald, I thought you had no idea about video games.

>>5335037
>hit or miss

GUESS THEY NEVER MISS

>>5335191
Agreed. Also 9.

>>5335201
His taste is not "weird" as FF8 sold million of copies, as did FF9. You don't enjoy games based on "reasoning" either. Your way of expressing yourself is clearly based on logical flaws.
FF8 and FF9 are beautiful, for starters. Graphic limitations aside, so is 7. They have amazing soundtracks. How strange! Turns out people like that a lot. Much more than pressing "attack" on the same mob over and over again, in fact.
Personally, i love the space segment of VIII, it really puts the game on a pedestal for me, as i love sci-fi. FF7's cyberpunk is a bit more bland, in comparison, and 9's fantasy setting goes up to steampunk and magical civilizations, but not actual sci-fi. Pretty sure i'm part of a large category in this alone.
You shouldn't need more arguments, unless you're retarded.

I-VI= god tier games for true gamers
VII-XV= crap for weebs

>>5333818
Someone actually enjoyed ff3?

>>5333860
Are you kidding? What made ff great as a series are the great stories and the unique characters. If you want to play jrpgs for gameplay you should really look elsewhere, ff was never about gameplay (unless we are talking about V) but rather about story.

>>5334084
>playing jrpgs for anything other than stories

>>5335570
I didn't mean his taste was weird because he liked FF8, I meant his taste was weird because he liked FF8 and FFT the most and I consider those two games very different from one another. I imagine an FFT fan would prefer FF5 for example.

>>5335567
holy shit...

>>5335729
This is unironically true

>>5334053
Maybe they had planned on Final Fantasy IV to have a hunger mechanic like a lot of old RPG's from that era (Ultima, etc.), and the Cook class would have played into that somehow.

Maybe vehicle combat also would have played a role in gameplay, with the Carpenter class being able to repair damage done to the player's ship or airship?

>>5336971
I imagine he likes variety.

Autists who obsessively seek the EXACT same, or at least similar, experiences over and over again is puzzling to me. A guy who's favorites list includes games of different genres, or games that are at least drastically different, I can understand and respect.

And besides that, FFVIII and FFT are both all about micromanagement, to an extent. So on that level, he has an obvious theme going.

>>5335729
You try so hard, but we can all see right through you...

>>5334097
>It's all bigger and bigger numbers that become meaningless because 64581 isn't really different than 66970
Nigger, pre-X FF caps at 9999. In fact, I challenge you to name a single /vr/ JRPG that goes higher than that.

>>5337073
SaGa Frontier.

>>5337123
No wonder no one gives a shit about SaGa.

>>5337073
>pre-X FF caps at 9999
>implying that's acceptable.

>>5337813
What's wrong with that? For many years 9999 has been the cap for lots of jrpgs. Are you a disgaea fag by any chance?

>>5333813
Yep and you can even skip 5.

>>5337827
Your lack of self awareness is what's wrong here.

>>5339692
>skipping the game with the best gameplay of the series
Disgusting

>>5337813
Literally who cares. Technology was outdated and if you dont like that just fuck off and go back to Fortnite.

>>5339774
>JRPG
>gameplay

>>5339980
>not wanting a great story paired with an enjoyable gameplay

>>5333813
Actually VII is all you need, the rest of the series is very overrated, VII is legit good.

>>5339692
what a fucking nigger

>>5336948
I like it. It's a good game, but wildly unbalanced, and not necessarily towards the player's enjoyment.

>>5339980
>not enjoying excel spreadsheets
normie detected

>>5340207
I dont think FFV has a great story but I really liked the class system.

>>5340384
I feel like 3 is the best of the nes games, 1 was not quite there yet since it was the first game and 2 is a terrible mess.
About ff3, I think it's a nice game to give a shot if you don't have anything better to play but I think it's still fairly basic and straightforward, nothing too special about it. But the absurd difficulty spike of the final dungeon and final boss really ruined the game for me, expecially since I beat almost all of the bosses (mainline and extras ones) at first try.

>>5340660
Storywise V wasn't great, but imo it has the best gameplay in the whole series.

I played VI-IX as an adult, and my favorite is VII. I like VI, but a lot of the twists and such were done at the time. I already played Chrono Trigger, so I've dealt with "the world, but past/future/ruined" before.

I did play the "Beacause" re-translation for VII though, as I had the original translation was particularly atrocious. In the absence of that, perhaps VI would have been better comparatively?

VIII was great, but was ultimately very weird, I found. It also didn't have the kind of twists and mature themes VI and VII had.

IX was great, but was held up by a lame villain and an asspull final boss. Though, I suppose the latter was a homage to past entries.

Currently I think VII > VI > (VIII=IX).