/vr/ - Retro Games

=== NEWS ===

[1-26] Odamex 0.8.0 released, now using SDL2
https://odamex.net/boards/index.php/topic,3182.0.html?PHPSESSID=vtj14rfqgmd8se632212rcooq4

[1-22] Hexen Neural Upscale textures
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103770-hexen-neural-upscale-08012018/

[1-22] BloodGDX v0.798 released
https://m210.duke4.net/index.php

[1-22] SM191 for Quake, a mapset inspired by classic
http://www.celephais.net/board/view_thread.php?id=61678

[1-21] Trenchboom adds experiment support for Quake III
https://github.com/kduske/TrenchBroom/releases

[1-21] GZDoom 3.7.2 released:
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63346

[1-14] 'Quake 1.5' gameplay mod beta released
https://www.moddb.com/mods/quake-15/news/quake-15-sp-beta

[1-19] Somebody tries implementing RTX tech into Quake 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrq1T93uLag

[1-16] Anon sharing 'Quake Revitalization Project' files
https://pastebin.com/EynaZ460

[1-14] Zanieon releases Doom Church Album
http://www.mediafire.com/file/qblowc7ts7fdqyd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdgwYYADH4Q&list=PLIL5wx-DD9NGSPFzz8TAfLssfm-LiftM9

[1-7] Discharge, a 9-level wad for ZDoom
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=63169

[1-1] SM190 - Six Textures released for Quake
http://www.quaketastic.com/files/single_player/speed_maps/sm190_pack.zip

[12-31] La Tailor Girl updated to 1.70H
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=58343&p=1085657#p1085657

[12-31] PortaDOOM Cacowards 2018 Released
https://github.com/Kroc/PortaDOOM/releases/

[12-30] 100 Minutes of /vr/ on Doomworld
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103723-100-minutes-of-vr-half-the-time-half-the-maps/

[12-26] Anon makes a mutator 'ArmorisHitPoints'
https://my.mixtape.moe/lnuzbw.zip

[12-26] ESRGAN algorithm used to make HD Textures for RTCW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyRfptKJutU


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**PARTY TIME**

>>5335527
That's adorable. Don't do that. I'm conditioned to hate demons, dammit.

Besides Sigil, What are you guys looking foward to? Doesnt even have to be mods, just share your thoughts :)

>>5335539
Back To Saturn X Episode 3. Been waiting for years, and will wait for years.

>>5335539
The Blood remaster, I guess

>>5334532
I was hesitant to, since maybe I felt before that it was in bad style to just edit someone else's mod directly like that, but eh, what the hell.

I just have to find it first, and uh, wipe off some evidence.

>>5335539
I've been waiting for SUPPLICE since it was announced 5 years ago - a complete TC with new weapons, all new textures, monsters and a nice palette. It is certain that the project is not dead, but updates on progress are going really slowly

Someone to make good lightmaps and normal/pbr for vanilla Doom and Heretic textures.

Amid Evil and Ion Maiden, obviously.

OpenMW to reach 1.0 - good to see it's still actively worked on and making progress.

Another thing is Noita - think of those powder physics poweder games from mid-00, but with actual gameplay and complexity, or a Cortex Command, but with magic and actually fun.

For Valve to release their VR Headset along with Knuckles controller already - i realy hope this shit agrees to work with Fishbiters fork of VR GZdoom. I've been putting off stepping into VR since I'd like to have headset of Vive with controllers like Oculus, and was not about to settle on something I'd be only partially satisfied with.

Cyberpunk 2077 too I guess. I try to not get my hopes up, so I'd be content if even 20% of what they've shown would make it into the finished game.

I also was looking up to TES6, but after it was confirmed to run on same old engine... Eeeh...

>>5335539
Doom Eternal but now i'm expecting bad news

>>5335658
Supplice and Ion Maiden. A guy called Cage is doing graphics for both of those. Double time sink.

best OP in a while

What are some semi-decent attempts at "modernising" iWADs?

I know of the "HontE Remastered", but that's one too much, and way too dark because the author focused on "true dynamic light sources" that were supposeed to be customised to your tastes, and be as lit or dimmed as you wanted depending on the options in the GZDoom menu, and then Graf went and hacked the dynamic light customisation out of the engine completely "because it breaks mappers intentional look"

I remember there being a few more projects like that but for the love of me I cant remember them. (Not KDiZD or starter pack)
Something that keeps the general layout but adds detail and maybe some new things.

>>5334885
first I've heard of it, and looking at the weapon I'm not sure how it could manage that
the SSG altfire looks like it could (it actually fires two grenade clouds 4 units apart), do you mean that?

>>5335694
I think Heretic's Crossbow can aim its side bolts at separate targets.
BTW is there any way to replicate that without autoaim, or making the bolts completely homing?

>>5335539
The update for GMOTA, Synthdoom if whats her name ever fucking finishes it, Chainworm Kommando 2 even if it's something of a departure from the first one, not much else.

Not hyped for Sigil, it just doesn't interest me.
Not hyped for Ion Maiden, level design is decent but the enemies and stuff just seem bland.
>>5335663
Now more than ever I'm expecting it to be a Bethesda launcher exclusive and have a creation club.

>>5335609
Here it is.
https://files.catbox.moe/d0up6s.pk3

It's actually way jankier than I remember, I was much more of a rookie back when I was futzing with this mod. Some things also aren't as good as I remember.
NC-HUD doesn't seem to work with this anymore, I don't know why, I didn't change anything there in that regard.

Changes include:
>faster and meaner plasma trooper (he's just too fucking shit otherwise, the plasma tank in the older versions was much better)
>assault rifle is louder, does more damage, is semi-auto only in ADS, has a 30rd magazine, and doesn't do the stupid skip after every other shot
>second pistols don't drop anymore, because I hated how janky the dual pistols were, you can still get them with cheats
>single pistol holds some more rounds, new sound, a little more damage, also if you have picked up a berserk pack, it can fire in a 3 round burst, which you can basically fire in full-auto with if you tap real fast (this was because I kept finding myself with lots of pistol magazines which I never got any use out of)
>shotgun has new boom sound
>cut out the voxel models because they looked kind of crude and ate memory
>can carry more ammo of all types
The Vore is kind of a shit replacement for the Arch-Vile, but I didn't change anything with it.

I take no responsibility for the quality of this, and if it doesn't work on your end, well, can't help you.

>>5335679
Honte is the best way of playing Doom 2. You dont need now your doom2.wad - delete it and play Honte with freedoom2.wad, neural upscale pack and remastered doom sounds. Honte is better in every aspect than outdated doom2.wad with poor geometry.

Okay, guys, I'm getting really confused.

So, during reorganizing my wad folder I stumbled upon two wads without any readmes associated with them.
joi_lstcv5 and joi_lstcv9.
Attempts to find any info about them on the net led to almost nothing, except for finding ANOTHER one on wad archive, named joi_lstcv7, still with no readme attached.

Have any of you ever heard of this series? Where can I find more? Does it have an actual name?

>>5335716
No. Too overdetasiled. Im looking for something similar, but for Doom 1 and less burdened (but still more detailed than original)

>>5335719
Did you launch them?

>>5335719
Try running them or opening them up in Slade?

>>5335723
There is only first map remade with added dynamic lights

https://www.moddb.com/mods/gl-e1m1

You will need to turn on shadowmaps, so it will look right.

>>5335719
Pre-release versions of Lost Civilizations by a dude called Jaska.

>>5335724
>>5335726
Yeah, opened them before, no unique level names, no new splash screen, pretty cool graphics.

But yeah, thanks for pointing out SLADE solution. Turns out it's Lost Civilisation pre-releases.

I can actually add dynamic lights into Doom 1 and replace sector lighting, and also add pbr stuff, but tell me how good doom.wad maps do convert into UDMF format nowdays? Will the conversion break something like switches etc?

>>5335734
totally not what im looking for, sorry.
I remember there being a mod that adds details like cracks in pavement, some sector-based "consoles" to the "computers", indents and some detailing in pavements, some new rooms, windows into nearby areas if they are close, stuff like that.
i.e. more actual details, not simple "everything is dark and lights are now dynamic!" stuff.
It covered all of the Doom 1. I can find some attempts at it, but none of them looks like what I remember.

>>5335742
If you can do PBR and normalmaps for original textures, can you do that as a separate package? I think many would appretiate something in the veins of how Duke World Tour did things i.e. new shine to old textures, plus subtle dynamic lighting to the maps that does not change the feel/atmosphere (like this one does >>5335734)

Reminder that D4T is better than Brutal Doom

>>5335750
I play Brutal Doom Black Edition, its kind of a mix of both, therefore its better.

>>5335745
I do pbr for DHTP pack (+mix of my own textures). Somebody on doomworld already started making pbr for original textures

>>5335750
Reminder that Brutal Doom (v18) is better than Brutal Doom

*shoots corner next to you*
Pshh, nothin personnel, kid...

>>5335773
That one is nowhere near complete, and the guy invited anyone who can help him to contribute.
Since there are already packs of HD+PBR textures, and no complete PBR pack for original ones, I think that one needs more attention than DHTP.

>>5335345
I always hated how the enemies would blow up the coins before you could get them in a lot of cases.

Is there a reason to keep old versions of GZDoom these days? Seems like everything works with the most recent one.

>>5335804
is this bait?

>>5335806
Which versions of GZDoom should I have then? Just all of them?

>>5335804
The most recent one has been breaking a lot of mods.
>>5335814
For starters 3.4.1 and 2.5 are good ones to have for general compatibility's sake, a lot of 2.something mods got broken with 3.0 and onwards.

>>5335397
a 30mm can do wonders

>>5335559
helstrum, the successor to x-weapons

>>5335804
i keep old 2.3.2 for fallback

>>5335828
>>5335831
Ok I see. I had 3.6 for a while but just changed it today. I'll go download versions of the old ones too then.

>>5335509
and this shit works on YamagiQ2 too!
>https://imgur.com/a/Sv9JzuA
2x is the magic res for gigapixel or whatever the crap neural AI shenanigans works well on Q2 though what i said yesterday >>5334492
i'll try to put a full fledged pack for All of Q2 monster stuff until saturday or earlier, everyone is free to edit it after on it.

also, why the fuck did rogue used the same baseq2 monster textures for the same enemies?
There's Bitch2 on the files and its the same iron maiden enemy skin
>https://imgur.com/a/IjyrwQv
could someone edit Q4 Iron maiden face into it?

>jetpack imps & homo baldies
why isn't this a thing?

>>5335408
>I just find the vanilla gamefeel to be very unsatisfying
You're unsatisfying.

>>5335408
Agreed, there's only so many times you can play something one way, that's why people make mods in the first place.

>>5335696
there's basically two feasible ways I can think of to do it:
1. iterate through all the monsters on the map, see which ones intersect with a cone pointed in the direction of the bolt's line of fire, and aim the bolt at the closest one of those monsters you can see. I'm no good with 3D geometry, but after googling the math involved, it should be fairly reasonable to do in zscript, and hahaha fuck doing anything beyond basic trig and vector math in ACS.
2. the same thing, but only check the centers of the monsters. this would be much easier to do, as you'd only need to check the project the monster's center onto the line of fire, and see if ratio between projection length and rejection length is greater than tan(90deg - <cone half-angle>). this would be pretty reasonable to do in ACS.

if you're targeting ACS, the only real way to iterate through all monsters is to A_RadiusGive them all a CustomInventory that runs the script. if you're targeting zandronum, you don't have RGF_NOSIGHT, but that shouldn't be an issue in this case. zscript has the BlockThingsIterator (aka an actually sane way to do this).

>>5335882
Not the first time I've been told that, unfortunately.

Does anyone have any vids of decent Thief players? I'm getting shit on by what feels like insanely inconsistent AI, but the entire experience feels inconsistent as a whole.

>>5335694
Original guy here, no, just find a situation where there are two enemies in the same vertical space an fire the pump shotgun at them. It'll autoaim onto both.

>>5335912
that souns like ludicrously resource intense especially on a amap with many actors.

What I thought is launch ~20 "A_CheckLOF" to each side of the main bolt at the start of attack in Top-left->bottom-right order (same as Heretic does), and at the first one that connects, launch a homing projectile, that has narrow angle and only homes in on its first frame of existence, and jump over the leftovers. Launch one at a regular angle if none connects.
I thought that would be intense, but that's still less intense than checking every monster lol

>>5335942
In fact here's a frozen screenshot of just such a situation I set up. I only fired once.

Has anyone ever made a Hotline Miami inspired wad for doom? If not then I'll make one.

>>5335959

Do it, dork.

Hey guys, hear me out for a moment.

Beyond extracting .pk3's/WAD files and snooping on their contents, I have zero experience when it comes to DOOM modding.

I'd very much like to make a mod for DOOM based on the Brigador universe (it's a game that came out a couple years ago), but I sort of fear that would be too ambitious for a first project honestly. The game in question is largely based around vehicle combat (mechs, tanks, anti-gravs), but infantry and powersuits also have a role, so I was thinking maybe the mod could be based around the latter.

Another key idea is that you have HULL (HP) and SHIELD (Armor), but the way it should work is that HULL can't be gained during a level, you can only pick up SHIELD drops from enemies (you can also become overshielded up until a certain point, where it starts to bleed out over time)

Do you think this could work? I'd very much like the concept of the player using a powersuit (so that you can at least have a suspension of disbelief that you're not towering over everything), but I'm afraid that the idea sounds cooler in my head than it would actually be to play.

Here's a review by Icarus so you get an idea:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM3CFa_pKdE

>>5335971
>I sort of fear that would be too ambitious for a first project honestly
It probably is, what with the maps that you'd have to make unless you were just going to reuse existing ones.
>HULL (HP) and SHIELD (Armor) ... Do you think this could work
Easily, make special armors that block 100% of damage, make enemies drop them, replace all medkits with something that isn't a medkit. The issues are needing new sprites, new levels (maybe), and depending on how crazy you are the overall complexity of the inner workings.

>>5335974
Oh and you can do overshielding by having a script of some kind reduce armor if it passes a certain point.

>>5335948
>that souns like ludicrously resource intense especially on a amap with many actors.
with a BlockThingsIterator, the second one really wouldn't be. projecting a position onto a unit vector is just ((posTo - posFrom) dot aimDirection). getting the vector rejection from that is just (posTo - posFrom) - (aimDirection * projection). then one you have a list of all the actors in that cone (sorted by projection magnitude), just go through the list until you find a monster the projectile can see, and aim the projectile at it.

using A_RadiusGive without RGF_NOSIGHT? sure, I'd be wary of that - I had to tweak the A_RadiusGive ranges in the flamethrower and arc code pretty heavily to find a good balance between "doing what I want" and "not lagging too badly when I shoot it into a room packed wall to wall with revenants". but iterating through a list of actors and doing basic arithmetic on their positions is cheap as hell - even on nuts3.wad, you're not gonna notice a frame drop from the iterator.

>>5335958
okay, I see what's going on there. the first imp died, and the second A_FireBullets call (which was only meant to shoot one five-damage pellet, not five one-damage pellets, whoops) goes to shoot the other imp instead. the only way I'm dealing with that and still getting 125 damage is either five 25-damage pellets (no), twenty five 5-damage pellets (absolutely no), some +HITTRACER/ACS abuse (because zandronum doesn't have A_DamageTracer), or making the puffs explode with like a 4 unit radius (fuuuuuuck no).

>>5335998
Yeah I'm not complaining, I generally had an idea of why it happened, just wanted you to know.

Had this dream Romero did a livestream and invited John Carmack so they'd talk about stuff and were about to announce something big
Not sure what the big thing in the end was do

>>5335867
wtf

>>5335971
Looks uninspired and derivative

>>5335998
Can't you instead of iterating "A_FireBullets" once a bullet, just specify a number of bullets in the function, and a spread?

>>5336034
He's not doing it once per bullet, it's twice for two different sprays.

>>5336027
Brigador is actually pretty good top-down shooter, in the veins of that SNES Mechwarrior game,

>>5335971
You havent really described what exactly it is that you want to do, only one health mechanic, which is really not enough to get the picture.
Do you want to make new levels?
Do you want to make new enemies?
If so then you won't be able to just extract res from the game - it may look like 3D models due to lighting and so, but it is in fact a light/heightmapped sprites, made in isometric view and would not look right in a first person view.
And making the assets on your own would be hard enough of a task, so at that point you might as well make something completely new, not derivative from someone else's work.

>>5336035
ohgodwhy.png

>>5336054
That's not really bad code for Decorate honestly, there's not many other ways to do what he wants there.

I settled on a few archetypal but interesting themes and started to create the first base textures and sprites for the individual sets. Most if not all resources will be crated from 3D models to get the proper normal pass.

>>5336052
This pretty much only leaves you with the option to create models from scratch and use them to generate the needed sprite rotations.

>>5335998
>>5336054 >me
>getting 125 damage is either five 25-damage pellets (no), twenty five 5-damage pellets (absolutely no)

oh, i missed that. now i see
But why be so precise about the damage? make it 14 bullets of 9 damage, 1 more point of damage would not make much of a difference.

>>5336074
Again, at that point why not make something of your own, instead of tying it to a game hardly anyone played?

>>5336069
>greco-roman
I have long since waited for someone to cross greco-roman style with high-tech.
Think white marble and stone + neon lights, kinda like antithesis to conventional "dark and moody" cyberpunk.
I've seen something like that used in some of the Megaman Zero stages, but there its not quite that.

>>5336084
That's what I meant

Is there a "lite" version of Smooth Doom?

I want to use it but it ends up touching way too many things that overwrite the mods I autoload. I know I could just put it further down than them in the auto-load sequence, but still.

>>5336090
Interesting desu

>>5336106
>>5336084
>>5336074
>>5336052
>>5335974
I'm sorry, I should have been more clear. My intention was to make a weapons + enemies mod, but you're right in the sprite stuff being very work intensive for sure since I'd have to do them myself. Maybe if I scaled it back to just a weapons mod, so the player pilots a powersuit? But then, I'm not sure it would be worth doing unless I also make it so that the enemies drop shields

>>5336171
Necrodoom have that

>>5336171
Yeah at that point you're just making Necrodoom.

>>5336178
>>5336183
Wasn't aware of Necrodoom's existence. Thanks for the heads up, I'll go check it out

Guess I'll come back later with a more original idea or just some map

>>5335781
but it doesn't have splash damage???
as far as i know, it's fairly scientifically accurate
it's a railgun that fires depleted uranium
the shots go through walls and create a damaging cone on the other side
because DU slugs splinter like that

inert radioactive ammunition for HD
fucking when, vaec

>>5335880
> i just think they're neat

>>5336189
Also, Mechatron
https://www.doomworld.com/files/file/15561-mechatron/

>>5335971
Should be doable, though it may take some work to keep it sensible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag1DAWUbTpg

>>5335971
Also this exists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6GBRE0WxfE

>>5336229
>>5336223
>>5336213
>>5336183
>>5336178
You guys are the best. I love you. I don't know why I never thought to look up mech/agrav DOOM mods. This is gonna hit the spot alright.

I'd like some megawad recommendations, preferably ones that don't go overboard with monsters

>>5336204
>but it doesn't have splash damage???
It's an invisible explosion caused at the exit point of the beam fanning out in all directions and through walls.
The code for the gun is available in the HLSDK.
Also, it's a particle beam weapon, the DU ammo and "gauss" filenames are leftovers from before they were changed, DU isn't even a fuel source but Valve forgot what "depleted" means.
What pisses me off is not really how powerful it is but rather that it is never explained anywhere in the game, I found out when I put research into how peruvian children constantly manage to kill me without LOS.
People should talk about Half-Life more often.

>>5336229
This is near peak autism. Also LOL at that literal Mechlet

>>5336207

>>5336264
Now shop Sandy's face on Marge

>>5336178
>>5336183
Do you guys know if anyone has added mech stompy footstep sounds to Necrodoom or is it still silent when you move around?

Zdoom forums down for anyone else? I want to hear how bad Hell's Playground is

Could this thread run Doom?

>>5336315
down
i hear it's 1.6 gigs of one map copy pasted with different monster counts

>>5336327
fuck it, i've got nothing else to do while some games download

time to suffer

>>5336320
Maybe with Zandronum, probably not with GZDoom.

>>5335750
I love D4T, but man, the progression and RNG are huge turnoffs to me to the point I haven't played it in awhile
I don't want the MP weapons or monsters and I want to actually get weapon mods instead of desperately hoping they'll drop

Not sure how difficult any of that would be to change without breaking the game since I'm a modderlet

d4d or d4t?

Where can i get Dakka?

>>5336352
http://git.jinotra.in/ijon/dakka

>>5335509
I wonder how many levels Journey to the Haunted Swamp 2 has Pic related. Its from my most recent playthrough.

>>5336335
a lot of these d4 mods have their own flaws and good stuff because according to dbt, he wanted d4t to be a bit more unique compared to other mods
so you never get a truly faithfull d4 mod
some also take bits from the game that suck like the slow firing rocket launcher

>>5336383
Are you running it with all the resources or a right IWAD?

>new version of lithium only supports frame dropping, ass chugging 3.7.0

no marrub, fuck you.

>>5336418
Play the old version then.

>>5335539
Still waiting for that Doom64-inator mod. It's supposed to not only darken maps and replace music, but have new N64-style sprites for revenants and archviles.

hey russian doom remaster guy

your mod sucks

>>5335959
You will not

>>5336268
Needy

>>5336357
Thanks.

>>5336436
What happened to Drpyspy, after Doom Delta 2.0 and Metadoom?

>>5335959
Nice. Good luck man, would be pretty neat.

>>5336464
He's working on a few different things, I think.

My cat died around the start of the month
I miss her so much
Please cheer me up /doom/

>quaddicted.com not mentioned
Like, really?

>>5336464
>>5336471
i believe he is working on what i like to call "shitpost shoot bros" multiplayer mod

whenever i think of the lack of enemy focused mods, i wouldn't mind if someone just made enemy only versions of bigger mods
like gmota but only its enemies for example
the problem is when some enemies are meant to have specific actions/scripts with elements from the weapons and player

>>5336479
its in the "so you wanna play quake" pic
speaking of which, the duke pic is pretty outdated

>>5336474
Here's a .webm from when Kegan made the Revenant replace the blood actor.

>>5336490
While you can strip out everything but the enemies from GMOTA, you'd have to mess with their health and damage values to get them back down to Doomish levels.

>>5336562
Now that's spooky

guys, would you play a doom 3 demake?

>>5336593
It's been done, kind of, it wasn't that great.

>>5336593
To make it enticing to me you'd have to completely change the weapons and level design to be actually good, at which point it wouldn't really be a demake.

>>5336608
Just imitate some of the visuals and design.

>>5336562
>>5336571

>>5336604
where is it?
>>5336608
I thought of demaking only the levels, I'm not familiar with doom code

>>5336619
I once thought of how you'd recreate Doom 4's levels in classic Doom and try to make it work with gameplay mods as in "vaccinated" style.

>>5336619
It's been a while and I've forgotten the name but I'll see if I can find it, it was an attempt to remake the maps by some Brazilian dude or something like that.

Anyone able to identify this map?

nyoooom

ModDB posted my Quake 2 singleplayer unit on their Twitter-account! I am beyond myself right now being giddy and happy like I was a kid again. This is crazy.

https://twitter.com/ModDB/status/1090731379690823682

>>5336695
yer moving up in the world anon

>>5336672
Explain

>>5336708
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH

>>5336648
vulgar display of filters.png

>>5336695
Congrats, you have now gained 1 Point of Internet Fame.
You need 9,999 more IFP to advance in Internet Fame level from "Internet Nobody" to "That One Guy Some People May Have Heard Of"

>>5336676
My first thought was a Doom-version of Nar Shaddaa from Dark Forces, or something Dark Forces-inspired.

>>5336676
>>5336719
Yeah, looks really close to that one DF level.
But in Doom, BC in DF that level was bluish-grey iirc.

>>5336718
Rude

can one of the doom drawbois draw a cacodemon with legs and arms

>>5336718
I know...

But it means a lot to me.

>>5336442
I know. It was not made to actually play Doom. It was made to impress people like "oh look an old game turned into a full 3d with modern effects", it's playable for like 10 mins and then you delete it and go back playing wads with Vanilla/SmoothDoom/Brutal/any other sprite-based mod. I'm actually apologizing to the Doom community for assembling it, I would even wipe it from the internet, I tried deleting it from moddb but the page somehow got restored (maybe site admins thought it was deleted by accident), also it's been already spread on thousands of russian torrent tracker websites to which I have no control so even if the moddb page will be wiped people will still google it by typing "Doom Remake 4".

>>5336676
I know its from a mappack. hold on a bit I'll get the name. I have it on my folder.

I'm playing Quake for the first time and I think I just skipped an entire level, the second to last level in Episode 1, by rocket jumping to the golden key
Was this shortcut intended by iD?

Playing with Dakka + CH and i think i had flames around me
Must have been a score bonus

>>5336672
No no wrong

>>5336629
Rude

>>5336676
Looks like Way Too Many Dead Guys MAP02

Just want to remind you all that Open Arena Live exists
OA is just Quake 3 Arena but free as in freedom

https://openarena.live/

I was replaying Freedoom 2 0.6 with DRPG+DRLA and seriously, who the fuck made the Hungry a thing? Fuck that noise. Everything else is easy to deal with on Nightmare until you get to the Hungry.

How do you like my first map? It is a nice couch and TV for the Doomguy.

>>5336801
Reminds me of This Strife.

>>5336801
looks a little fuckin massive

>>5336798
who's hungry?
is it the mancu replacement?

>>5336801
Are there any rats style Doom maps?

>>5336798
Yholl loves you

>>5336784
Thanks!

>>5336240
>50-round silenced MP5 with grenade launcher
>MP7 with grenade launcher that doesn't even exist separately from the gun and also is just as wide as the 4.6mm barrel
>Semi automatic neurotoxin crossbow that also works on turrets
>Double barrel SPAS 12
>9mm M16
>SAW with the recoil of an M2
>Sightless Deagle
>Bolt-action rifle that only gets half-cocked
>Ghostbusters gun
>This abomination in my pic

Half Life was some crazy shit.

>>5336863

>>5336863
>he wants realism in a 90s game about multi dimensional alien invasions

>>5336884
I don't think that anon was listing any of those as a bad thing.

>>5336414
I run it in GZDOOM 3.3.0 via Doom2.

>>5336884
>you can't criticize a science fiction franchise for getting its references to the real world wrong

>>5336895
Yes :^)

>>5335509
Graf may work for Nvidia, but that doesn't reflect on all employees there. He's one of the less competent ones for sure.

>>5335971
Sounds neat

>>5336334
You can play D4T:Crucible-Slayer Edition,It's the best version of the mod.

>>5336901
No.

>>5335750
Reminder that it's also better than Project Brutality.
The latter feels like it wants to be Doom 4 but like BD, it has no direction. Some of the guns are nice(nailgun) but most of them are useless.
Plus it's a mess of effects and sound design.

>>5336863
the pistols were about the only remotely sane things in the entire series

>>5336863
Malay specops do employ MP5s with 40mm grenade launchers.
It's not a silenced one, and the largest magazines I know of for MP5s which aren't drums are 40rd mags, but I figure that could all still be done.

>>5335509
Quake and Quake 2, unlike Doom 1&2, have no terrible-poor commercial home console ports, only ones not as good as the others. Even the N64 version of Quake 1 and the PS1 version of Quake 2 are playable.

>>5336863
> double barrel spas12
i should make this
shoots twice per pump, regardless of sequence
or if you want to go completely bonkers and accurate
> semi auto double barrel shotgun

>>5336963
>shoots again when you pump because ???????

>>5336968
as in have the game's primary and altfire still be a thing

>>5336963
Guns like that do exist.
>pump once, can fire two shots
>could probably modify it to fire both barrels at once

Ijon
Dakka tracers aren't portal-aware

>>5336990
Buddy there's very little in the entire GZDoom engine that doesn't break when using portals.

>>5335509
Quake but with graphics and some sound mods that make it resemble places from the Simpsons.

>>5336831
rats solitaire is a thing. Fuck if I remember where I got it, though

>>5336986
ditch the vertical foregrip and add a carry handle
Q2 SSG

I like Doom.

>>5337146
why don't you marry it then.

>>5337146
I read the quit messages. I don't think it likes you back.

>>5337146
w-wow, anon
I-I... don't know what to say

>>5337146
[D_SHAWN plays]

>>5336158
You could use Final Doomer's Doom 2 Weaponset and change the way BFG Ammo is used (pic related).

>>5336863
>>9mm M16
disable h res models theyre ASS

>>5337150
>Y-you really love DOS more than me? Fine then! I dont like you either!

>>5337251
bae, I don't even use DOS

This might be a bit off topic since it isn't an fps, but would anyone know a good place to download AM's Alice? I've always wanted to try the game out since it runs on id Tech and was developed by the guys who made one of the Quake expansions.

>>5337197
>Final Doomer

>>5336158
There's a monsters only one

>wad uses module music

>>5337279
It's free on myabandonware

>>5337279
Huh i coulda swore GOG had it but apparently not. Steam neither. I guess just google its name plus the word "abandonware" then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6nJYLqx4dI

>>5337306
Tasty soundfont

>>5337295
word
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/Ports/p-r/quirkdom

>>5337306
> the antaresian legacy part
lul
i greatly appreciate minor editing such as this
goddamn the first level music in that is good
it has that certain sound to it that i can't name

>>5336741
ok, you win. thats the pic of the next thread

>>5336752
we don't have anything against you working in your mod, just STOP shilling it

>>5337353
Oh, be nice!

>>5337146
wtf dude

What's the best GZDoom version for low end potatos that can't run opengl properly? I'm running 2.1.1 but I'm wondering how far can I go.

>>5337365
No GZDoom for you then. Try ZDoom.

>>5337365
Anon, I...

>>5337379
I'm on a trip with my family stuck with a shit laptop from like 2010. Don't judge me, I just want to play some doom to pass time.

>>5337365
>>5337371
Turns out 1.8.6 works just fine, gives all the good stuff like 3d floors and runs just like software.

Does anybody else still have the bug in the latest release of Bolognese where archviles resurrect completely invisible monsters after they'd been gibbed?

Is Doom Girl still canon?

>>5337427
You mean Crash? Was she ever "canon" other than as a model in Q]I[?

Having said that I always had a soft spot for her for... reasons, and wouldn't mind seeing her pop up in Eternal as a character skin or something.

Are there any DOOM maps or custom episodes that allow you to play as Crash/Doomgirl actually?

>>5337427
She died of malnutrition. Too skinny, not enough food.

>>5337465
If she's even 1/10 as badass as the Doomguy she doesn't need food or water to survive.

>>5337046
ratsol.wad is on idgames

>>5335701
>creation club
Please god no. Does id have the power to veto that?

>>5336831
In Mandrill Ass, I think there is a section when you are miniaturized and is on a table with dishes and stuff.

>>5337279
https://www.old-games.ru/game/download/1825.html

>>5337484
Isn't "not needing food to survive" a hell influence thing in general? I think it was called "hercules effect" or something.

>>5337502
Probably not, and they already started trying to tempt signups to some bethesda-based club site for the 25th anniversary.

>>5337452
more like a hard spot

>>5337323
that a damn good track to use too

>>5337146
just like, or LIKE like

Give me your best deathmatch jams

>>5336990
literally nothing that can be done about that without zscript, and believe me I tried
ACS simply lacks the portal-aware offset/distance functions zscript has, or any ability to detect portals for that matter

such is zan3 compat

>>5337615
This counts, right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo0TraGu6QY

>>5337651
>fucking oddjob

>>5337653

>>5337525
Yeah I signed up and *still* havent heard back since the day it began. Im starving for Doom Eternal info, at least give me some fluff or fanart or something. Makes me wonder if this whole Slayers Club thing is gonna be like anything at all really. But hey, it being nothing is better than Creation Club bollocks

>>5337663
>But hey, it being nothing is better than Creation Club bollocks
they've said repeatedly that they're making idTech7 more modder friendly, get ready for some bethesda brand bullshit

>>5336084
>But why be so precise about the damage? make it 14 bullets of 9 damage, 1 more point of damage would not make much of a difference.
doing that the other way around (nine 14-damage pellets, to reduce tracer count) is probably the best way to deal with it, yeah. I remembered that the +HITTRACER/ACS route would also require me to bullshit up my own knockback, and would also mean that the overpenetration effect (you know, where you kill multiple zombies in a row with a single shotgun blast) wouldn't happen.

>>5337663
>Makes me wonder if Slayers Club thing is gonna be like anything at all really
They've been pushing the multiplayer invading mechanic, so it's likely to be a micro-transaction emporium (with benefits from modding) where you buy a skin to showoff to other players when you invade them. I wouldn't be surprised if the marauder is an unlockable skin for invaders (if not the default one), and not a unique monster itself. Also the Argent Axe the marauder carries may just be a skin for the Argent Blade, meaning micro-transactions may apply to weapons too.

>>5337815
as long as it's purely cosmetic, I can live with that

have you thought they didn't gave doom 16 mod support because with doom 1/2 everybody ended doing maps and mods for doom 2?

>>5337889
But Doom 1 maps still can be played in Doom 2 provided you include the textures.

>>5337889
Wasnt Snapmap an idea from Carmack himself?

>>5337815
>I wouldn't be surprised if the marauder is an unlockable skin for invaders (if not the default one),
Has been what I've been saying since day one.
>>5337889
There's a fucking lot of maps for Doom 1 and if that were the case then they wouldn't have included crapmap.

If modding even makes it into Doom 5 it's probably not going to be all of the hopes and dreams that people are cramming into it anyways.

>>5335750
I feel the enemies become too much to handle in levels only a few steps harder than the Vanilla map sets.
If Argent had the Multiplayer weapons it'd be my preferred choice above all other mods.

>>5337815
>>5337916
it wouldn't make sense for them to make him an invasion exclusive while talking new campaign monsters during the presentation. just my two cents.

now, unlockable as a playable monster in that game mode I could see happening, but definitely not the other way.

a good wad to play qcde sp?

>>5336614
there could be revenants in this thread RIGHT NOW

>>5337964
there could be a revenant in you RIGHT NOW

is Quake worth playing through? I absolutely love Quake 3 but I never played 1 or 2. To be completely honest, I always thought Quake looked kind of boring compared to Doom and the build engine games.

>>5337974

>>5337986
Quake 1 is worth it, and is actually easy to blow through in a "lost track of time" sort of way. Quake 2 is debatable. I don't care for it much myself, but it's probably a lot of fun coop. It's not bad or anything, just not as fluid feeling somehow. Monsters are less fun to fight. The timing is all off to my tastes.

Quake one is great though.

>>5336334
>>5336913
>>5335750
What are the main differences between
>D4T Crucible - Enhanced
>D4T Crucible - Slayer Edition

I'm a bit confused at Moddb's structure so I can't quite make out the changes at a glance

>>5338086
Moddb's structure doesn't make sense to anybody.

>>5336695
Good job.

>>5336695
Congratulations.

>>5338086
>moddb
>structure
pick 1 (one)

>>5337150
It gives me nice quit messages

>>5338149
ill give u nice quit messages bby

>That ambush on "Going Postal"
Jesus

>>5335509
>There are DOOM 1&2 Simspons WADs and DOOM hideous destructor, yet neither of those exist for either Quake 1 or Q2

>>5338264
I love that part because you can set off those blast charges and just clear a crazy swath of enemies, and because Duke Nukem 3D (and that era of Build games in general), have super satisfying explosions.

>Tries Dakka with 50 Monsters
>Continues until map 19 for a break
Holy shit, i think i survived a death exit.

>>5338302
Not sure about the black textures there.

>>5338307
Just one more and done.

>>5338276
>tfw there is still no Hideous Destructor for Quake
It could work well for both games and probably even make Quake 2 much more enjoyable to to play

>>5338276
wasn't there a futurama blender skin?

>>5338330
What?

>>5338338
i remember seeing a player model in quake based off bender rodriguez from futurama
he was brown

>>5338302
>>5338307
>>5338310
Dakka's a really comfy way to play a lot of stuff.

>>5337452

>>5338086
It's literally right there, click "read more" under the description
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-foretold/addons/death-foretold-d4t-crucible-enhanced
https://www.moddb.com/mods/death-foretold/addons/death-foretold-d4t-crucible-slayer-edition
Enhanced just buffs the pistol and removes screen shake

>>5338276
Because Quake is much less popular and harder to mod for as well.

>>5335509
>die and lose everything
>last save was 4 levels ago

>>5338454
Quake is not as popular as DOOM, but its still more popular than Chex Quest, Shadow Warrior and Blood in General.

>>5338476
thats where the harder to mod part comes in

>>5338264
It's crazy. I fucking love it.

>>5338583
Playing through the game for the first time now. Finished Episode 4 just now. Really solid episode, I liked the first half of it a lot more than the 2nd half though.
I'm kind of sad that I'm forced to play the World Tour Edition for Episode 5, because it feels so much worse than eduke does, feels so floaty and unresponsive comparatively.

>>5338374
There was one for UT99 I recall. Also a Tom Servo.

>>5337986
1 is fucking awesome, everyone should try it at least once. 2 is... different. Look into the second game before jumping into it and see if it's your thing.

>>5338086
>>5338134
Just play the standard Crucible, everything else is bloated shit filled with useless stuff

What's the consensus on Ashes 2063 & Blade of Agony?

>>5338695
Ashes 2063 is fantastic. It feels like a lost Build engine game with the strong theme, semi-realistic and interactive environments, and large non-linear levels.

>>5338667
what version should I play? The GOG version using winquake or is there something better?

>>5338467
Honestly, shit like this is why I just got an autosave mod, I don't have time for shit like this

>>5338695
ashes 2063 was cool from what little i played of it
blade of agony was shit from what little i played of it

>>5338695
I love ashes, the maps, music, art and enemies are all top notch, the weapons could be a bit more varied but I guess you're not going to get crazy weapons in a post apocalypse setting.
Blade of Agony was interesting and I'm looking forward to the final episode, the maps start to fucking drag on forever though and overall the level design is mediocre. It's also gimmicky as hell which I enjoy but I can see it pissing other people off.

>>5338716
Check the OP
>SO YOU WANT TO PLAY SOME...
Doom, Quake, Duke, Marathon, or Thief:
https://imgur.com/a/wWS8zXz

>>5338763
>So you want to play some fucking Half-Life?
when?

>>5338763
man, why is Quake so much more primitive when it comes to option and setup than even Doom is when playing like GZDoom. There's nothing, no mouse sensitivity settings, no crosshair settings apart from the 1 you enable in console, no nothing.

>>5338763
Does default Quake have those coloured lights? There's just something nice about the colours here.

>>5338830
>why is a game from 1996 not optimized like a source port which is updated constantly to this day?
Do you have moments of stupidity when inspiration hits or does it just naturally flow from your hand to the keyboard with ease?

>>5338830
You need to stop and think about this.

>>5338842
>>5338846
I want to think he is talking about quakespasm or some other meme port

>>5338842
but I'm playing Quakespasm, not quake.

>>5337986
Quake 1 single player is one of my favorites.
Quake 2 is either loved or hated by most, when in reality, it's somewhere near the middle. Still a great game for several reasons.

In essence, you should just play through them both. It'll probably take you something like 20 hours to beat both of them on Hard, which is honestly the best way to play.

>>5338857
So you went out of your way to say "GZDoom", but you couldn't be fucked to type "Quakespam"? I'll buy that snake oil when you're a better salesman, fuck off.

why nobody has ever used this for anything?
https://www.moddb.com/mods/entityplus

>>5337986
Q1 has some cool expansions that actually take place after the first game and even have some neat ideas that were cut from the original Quake.
Q2's expansions are okay but not as memorable but i think one of them had a mission where you infiltrate the Strogg by disguising as one of them.

>>5338863
Man, why are you so angry? I'm just slightly peeved over here that quakespasm has such primitive settings, I mean I can't scale my crosshair, I can't change mouse sensitivity. Why is there no video setting baked into the game that lets you change texturemode? why is it all console commands?

Also do you guys play with fog on?

>>5338857
Quakespasm isn't meant to add a bunch of shit. It's basically just GLquake with its issues fixed.
If you want a bunch of options try Darkplaces I guess.

>>5338867
>moddb
There's your answer.

>>5338840
nah this is from here:
https://quakewiki.org/wiki/External_Lit_And_Vis_Files
just drop em in your maps folder
if it doesn't exist, make one

why should I use quakespasm over nquake to play single player?I'm asking cause I have nquake and it seems to run the single player flawlessly

Doom but in Banjo Tooie

>>5338830
Most of Quakespasm's options are only in the config file, not in the options menu. And even then many aren't listed in the config, you have to find them and add them.

>>5338926
Oh, sweet, thanks!

>>5338936
You have what you want and need. Why would you ask someone to change your mind?

>>5338948
just wanted to know if there's any difference over one or another

>>5338856
Kek. The large majority of the Quake mapping community uses QS.

>>5338714
>>5338695
>>5338747
>>5338759
Is Ashes broken with newer versions of GZDoom? It behaves strange.

>>5338958
If you want to play maps other than just the single player, use Quakespasm. If you just want to play Vanilla Quake maps, use whatever sourceport you want.

>>5338962
>tfw I use the superior vkQuake

>>5338965
The guy who made it says its been fixed in the newest version

Anyone else started enjoying softer and more basic mods/wads after playing through a lot of others? While giant arsenal and chaotic megawads with BD/PB levels of messiness can be fun, I just now prefer playing vanilla shit with minor enhancements.

>>5338984
Sometimes but I usually go heavy

>>5338936
because the nquake client, ezquake is focused on multiplayer

>>5338962
but I use quakespasm spiked

Honestly, if I knew how, I'd take Smooth Doom textures and neural upscale them. The real Doom HD with none of these 3D models bullshit.

Could I make a game like Deus Ex or Half Life in GZDoom?

>>5338856
What is so "meme" about Quakespasm, FitzQuake and WinQuake?

>>5339063
I didn't call quakespasm "meme"

>>5339062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS_ABZQSCDk

>>5339062
No, but you could make a version of Hideous destructor for Strife and/or Heretic.

>>5337452
Kinda? Remember that it's implied that id games exist in a shared multiverse.
- In Quake 3 and Champions, characters from different realities that can't exist at once all appear together
- In Quake, you travel between dimensions
- In Doom 2016, it's confirmed that there are multiple dimensions, including at least Argent D'Nur and Hell, and most likely the OG Doom universe.
- presence of Galena wearing Serpent Riders iconography in QC implies that Raven games exist in the same multiverse, which is consistent with lore of Hexen and Heretic - where multidimensional travel exists
- That could be a stretch, but Heretic 2 includes a plot point of a race of Seraphim, immortal race that descended into Parthoris elves - and Doom 2016 lore does mention Seraphim helping Doomguy.

So Phobos and Crash might have not existed in the main Doom universe, but clearly, there are multiple universes where the Hell dimension attacked and had some version of Doom story happen - including original Doom verse, Doom 2016 verse, Doom 3 verse, Doom RPG verse, and seemingly, the Q3 "Doom" verse from where Doom, Phobos and Crash come from. This would also explain why such a super-badass like Doomguy be a relatively weak skilled bot.

>>5339052
hot take: 3d models look better than upscaled sprites but we've only ever gotten shit 3d models
The Doom and Quake engines use a consistent pixel size for pretty much everything, breaking it looks unbearably awful

>>5339062
Diabolus Ex manages to recreate a lot of concepts from Deus Ex without even modifying core gameplay (like sneaking through vents or alternate solutions to boss fights).

GZDoom has 3D enemy sight, which means there's limited stealth in vanilla (you can ask player to crouch behind low 40mu walls), and there are several stealth mods (Ugly As Sin, Sneaky Doom, Universal Enhanced AI) which apply "partial invisibility' effect to player when they're in dark enough shadows.

And RPG elements, inventory, hubs and dialog system have been in the engine since Strife.

So yes, with enough determination, it's very much possible.

>>5339067
Amazing

>>5339072
Sure.
But yeah, you're right. I think it's weird that there are some great low-poly artists who are into Doom, like RobotJoe, but nobody bothered to improve on the terrible models that are currently the standard.

Like, imagine something with Quake 2 low poly aesthetic, smooth animation, and correct brightmaps. It could look amazing.

>>5339072
Isn't everything in Neural Upscale mods consistently upscaled 2x? So pixel size is still consistent, it's just higher - 1 map unit is two pixels instead of 1 pixel.

>>5339062
GZDoom is open source so you make it do pretty much anything with enough work and effort.

>>5339072
I prefer sprites over Doom 3 or nuDOOM models

Any mods that let you look down and see your own tits like Jurassic Park Trespasser?

>>5339123
what a strange thing, I was just thinking about Trespasser earlier today and how you could look at your own tits to hide the fact that there were no legs on the model.

>giant ugly maps filled with enemy spam
yeah I sure love watching monsters fight eachother while holding down strafe for 5 minutes
how the fuck does anyone like this style of shitty map """design"""
is hr2 any better than hr?

>>5339154
hr2 is like 10 times the difficulty of hr1.

You know what can't run doom?

The Amiga.

>>5339163
is it good difficulty or bad difficulty?

>>5339174
idk I like em both but you don't like hr1 so I can't say if it's good or bad difficulty for you.

>>5339168
Hackers and modders eventually got a homebrew port of DOOM 1 and 2 for the ECS Amigas by the tail-end of the 1990s.

>>5339168
tbf the brand was going down in flames by the time d2 came out

>>5337986
Quake 1 single player is definitely a must play. Sandy Petersen's mad genius that is Episode 4 is great.

I haven't gotten around to Quake 2, but I really dig the soundtrack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALBKFB28E0M

>>5339069
Also the Death Knight lore says that Galena's god is one of Shub-Niggurath's children.

>>5338025
There's honestly something satisfying and almost therapeutic about bhopping in vanilla/custom Quake maps, if not bhopping in general. More modern games should have it (other than Q:C of course).

>>5339437
reminder that the soundtrack is the single best part of the entirety of Quake 2

So I've finished Arcane Dimensions, the Xmas 2018 jam, and Nehahra. What should I do next? Scourge of Armagon, Dissolution of Eternity, Zerstorer, or would anyone like to throw something else out?

>>5339448
Highly recommend The Altar of Storms by necros

Alright, well here you go, whoever it was that wanted to play that one abandoned level you posted a screenshot of. These are the maps it went with.
I cleaned up some stuff in them, and sorta knocked out MAP04 real quick, then tacked on a level that I released separately (that was supposed to be the final level of this wad originally anyway).
Requires cc4-tex.wad
Requires GZDoom, or maybe just zdoom idunno.
There are 7 maps total. There is a secret level entrance in MAP02, and MAP03 gives you the option of going one way or another which leads to two different levels which both lead to the final level (the original idea was 2 branches of maybe 7 level each, but that fell through).
a lot of ideas on MAP31 (one of the level branches) were recycled for another project, so if some concepts there look familiar, that's why.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/1cbnp4m1c9w1auu/SCRAP.wad/file
I don't think I'm forgetting anything. These were made back when I was first getting back into Doom mapping in 2014 - around the birth of /vr/. So yeah.

>>5339538
>MAP31
might be map32 now that i think about it. either way.

>>5339538
Oh. And in both level branches there is a secret gun that is mostly useless, but was originally going to be in another secret map in this level set that took place in a totally black and white (except monsters) map with a sorta 50s scifi feel. Replaces BFG,
Here is cc4-tex if you can't find a convenient DL for it:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/wrap35mr3fm0qqc/cc4-tex.wad/file

>>5339538
>>5335509
>Anon releases SCRAP and now he should turn it into a megawad or whatever

>>5339549
That is a tall order, amigo. It was originally going to be, but I got some stuff to do now.
If it ever reaches megawad length you can look forward to that in ~2050.

>>5339567
Ok then. Uhhhh...
>/vr/ works together and creates UNSCRAPPED
How's that?

>>5339578
>shake it... me

>>5339542
Series of secrets.
I love it. Gonna keep playing.

i want to be a doom patrician and use prboom.

last time i tried it, i didn't find anything to customize my keys especially with mouse 3 and 4 buttons. any tips?

finally, almost every clipping issue is gone
time to optimize the heck out of this

>>5339661
bet you can't get those walls textured

>>5339686
are you daring me to do full texture mapping on a sega genesis
because i will

>>5339694
Might as well call this project Myopia then, I reckon

>>5339705
why

>>5339709
Because any kind of view distance and textured walls will kill performance completely. Gonna need to go half-blind unless you're fine with 0.5 FPS.

Is there multi loader for doom? This guy made a custom map says I need a multi loader to play it but I cant find one and havent heard of one. No dragging and dropping it onto GZDoom doesn't work.

>>5339715
I'm more worried about large view distance than texturing.

Texturing is at most a constant factor slower, probably about twice the cost to draw wall columns, and it only happens on the order of the size of the screen.

View distance and the amount of geometry to process isn't limited in the same way with long lines of sight.

>>5339168
There are Amiga ports of Doom, both 68k and PPC.

>>5336573
>original drawing of the baron of hell face is on the internet
>people still don't know how to draw them correctly

>>5339538
Trying out your maps, they're pretty neat so far.
GZDoom still has that sparkly gap rendering problem it seems.

>>5339572
Please don't.

>>5339717
I use Doom ZDL to stack wads. You can select your own iwads and source ports too, it's pretty kewl

>>5339538
Is this part intended to be jumped through with (G)ZDoom? I get "a secret is revealed" for landing on the middle pillar.

>>5339878
Cool my friend made Omega 97 have you heard of it? Hes a little schiz and the map reflects it. You guys should try it!

>>5338681
Slayer edition fixes most of the issues of standard Crucible.
It adds ledge grab, new skins for the enemies and removes that annoying screen shake.

I'm trying to run Project MSfiX'ed. But it always say that the resolution is wrong. What I have to do?

>>5339913
Graf said you don't need the resolutions. The option in the new Gzdoom just resizes the window. So anything that looks up the prior version of default resolutions can't.
Thanks Graf

>>5339913
Run on 3.4.1 or prior, remember that Graf is an asshat.

>>5339062
Yes. I mean, it's flexible in some ways, and less flexible in some other ways, but there really is a lot that you can do with GZDoom if you just know how it works and how to do it.

For instance, I think you could probably create a game like SimCity 2000 with ZScript, if you just wanted to.
You could make a game like Contra, or Castlevania (sidescrolling and all), you could make something like Shining Force, or some other top-down/isometric turn based game, or a point and click adventure.
First person shooter is definitely the easiest though, since it's built and based on Doom, but there's still a lot you can do within the realms of that as well, like adding RPG-like stat building, inventories and dialogue systems.

the broken english makes it endearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYEtBWTWrCI

>>5339625
The best solution I've found to this problem is to download the latest dev build, change your keybindings and then copy and paste from the dev build to 2.5.1.4 (the dev build has fucked up sound on my machine).

For mouse settings, PrBoom+ for some retarded reason has hardcoded mousebinds exclusively for fire, strafe, use, and moving forward and backward (although scrollwheel up and down is free from this restriction). Additionally, you're limited to 5 mouse buttons (left and right click, middle mouse button, and mouse 4 and mouse 5). For anything other then that, you're going to need macros for.

Instructions

* 1 - Download the latest dev build here. http://prboom-plus.sourceforge.net/prboom-plus-2.5.1.5.r4526-win32.zip
* 2 - Put in doom2.wad
* 3 - Launch prboom+ and navigate to keybindings.
* 4 - Change your keybindings. To remove a keybind, use DEL while hovering over your selection.
* 5 - Close PrBoom+ and open the dev build's prboom-plus.cfg.
* 6 - Copy and paste everything between #Mouse settings and the empty line above #Joystick settings into 2.5.1.4's config file.
* 7 - Delete this line with key_menu_clear on it, and save.

>was thinking about getting DUSK
>something didn't feel right about it
>eh maybe if it gets massively discounted
>quake 1.5 gets a beta release
>DUSK starts fading into irrelevance

>>5338820
>when?
Whenever I want, Anon

y'all niggers vision had well be augmented

>>5340034

>>5339879
No. You're not intended to jump through.its a super secret that accesses the opposite side if the map that is closed off in the beginning.

>>5340021
DUSK is better.

>>5339841
>display > opengl > rendering quality

>>5340021
Dusk doesn't have any mod tools yet, so there's not a lot to talk about.

>>5339538
I've played a few of the levels and I want to give my thoughts. I've just beat Caged (and I intend to finish), but I'll start with some thoughts.

Map01 isn't particularly interesting. The detail is nice though.

>>5340169
Second level does a few more interesting things. The music is ANNOYING AS FUCK though, I would say the music choice is very much detrimental to the experience of the map, I did IDMUS01.

>>5340172
I like the muted colors palette actually, quite a lot, though I think maybe some of the stock textures didn't translate 100% well.
The room with the blue key and the revenant is a nice encounter, the imps coming out of the suddenly opening teleporters one by one, isn't very different from them just popping out of a closet or teleporting in, but it's visually slick and novel enough just for execution's sake, so I actually like this setpiece a lot.

>>5340173
The use of lighting is really nice.

>>5340174
This surprised me.

>>5340176
Blowing up mooks with stacks of barrels is always fun.

>>5340180
This dumbass thinks I can't see him, I fucking love Cacodemons.

>>5340181
Some people really hate .wads with a whole lot of detail, but the attention to detail here is really nice, and it doesn't much clutter the environment or get in the way of gameplay.

>>5340183
This little part here brings to mind Espi's Suspended In Dusk.

>>5340021
Dusk is good as hell, haven't tried quake 1.5 but it looks bad.

>>5340184

>>5340194
This looks cool. I like how the tiles by the broken wall are tarnished from the weather and elements.

>>5340196
This here is the branching path I guess.
I took the red pill this time, huehuehue.

I guess this means I'll have to go back and play it again.

>>5340202
I feel there isn't actually an awful much to say about the outdoor area here. The little river with the sandbanks and all is pretty though.
I think the part where the monsters teleport in on top of the cliffs, I would also add a couple which come at you from behind, or the path you came (maybe they do on UV, this is HMP).

>>5340205
Deep and dark.

>>5340206
The radiating effect here is probably really trivial to do with animdefs, but I appreciate it nonetheless.
Also these caves/mines are nicely dark and spooky.
Also the Revenant popping out scared me, but I was expecting an Arch-Vile almost, which maybe there is one on UV.
On the other hand, there's nothing really to hide behind in that room, so maybe that's for the better.

>>5340209
This part was a good setpiece. Killed me good, the second time around I used a remote detonated bomb to deal with some of the pinkies in advance, which probably isn't doing the encounter fairly, but I still had a tough time backing up the toasty hot stairs and shooting the remaining pinkies, leaving my feet singed and magazines empty.

>>5340214
Berserking pinkies is pretty fun.