/vr/ - Retro Games

Great article about this history behind Cryo's Dune: https://www.filfre.net/2018/11/controlling-the-spice-part-2-cryos-dune/

>>5333573
>Cryo originally planned to use this picture of Sting in their Dune game, but the rock star refused permission to use his likeness.

>>5333578
>So, Feyd-Rautha, Sting’s character in the movie, had to get some plastic surgery for the game.

it still blows my mind that someone made a porn version of this

>>5333580
Ahh yes, Behind the Dune http://davidgoujard.com/btd.html

>>5333580
>>5333592
time to fap

>>5333580
I get that there is a giant talking vagina in a Lynch version of Dune, but was Dune particularly known for its sexy ladies and erotic subtexts?
Unless someone really liked the shot of Feyd Rautha in a speedo and decided to capitalize on that.

>>5333657
>but was Dune particularly known for its sexy ladies and erotic subtexts?

You should really read the books and find out.

>>5333657
I think the artist David Goujard just really liked the Dune (the book) and the Dune game and he draws sexy ladies for a living, so combine the two and you get a sexy tribute game called Behind the Dune.

>>5333668
>>5333669
But there are like 3 girls in the entire original book that are remotely fuckable - and one of them is your mother.
Unless the game REALLY wants you to fuck Feyd Rautha.
And the cute crazy slut Alia doesn't show up until the sequels.

>>5333676
I mean, "porn game" isn't the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Dune, but the series is still very sexual in parts.

>>5333657
The later books really go off the rails into graphic sex

>>5333592
Terrible shit

SPICE
SPICE
SPICE
SPICE
SPICE

>>5332914
https://www.freegameempire.com/games/Dune-CD
If anyone wants to play this old sack of shit.

>>5333578
Why would the tantric tosser object to them using an image of Michael Biehn?

>>5333806
Have you played it? It's quite good and holds up today, not exactly a "sack of shit"

Best soundtrack version?
Adlib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjHon6yg-r8
Genesis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bovZmEiAMWA
Adlib Gold
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUfGyfbzl9k
Amiga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BUnD86t6zk
MT-32
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zYSDhwmI_Q
combined
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-Q_UO6Hp7U
CD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF_0W1cYPYo
Schulze
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zB4P_tKcUvs
Honestly, the CD arrangement is shit. I wonder what Stephane Picq was on while making it.
Adlib is good and Gold is even better.

>>5334446
MT-32 hands down, simply outstanding. Frank Klepacki was barely 18 when he finished this soundtrack. Talented guy.

>>5334484
Oh I got it mixed up with the 2nd game, but nonetheless fantastic work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQADZeB-z8M

>>5334446
Personally?
https://youtu.be/2jBOtmbdjn0?t=34

>>5334446
What does Klaus Schulze have to do with the game?

To be honest y'all, that first game used to scare the mess out of me. Just the visuals and the music and all. Does the porn game follow the story of the 1st game?

>>5333657

Good anon, did you know about the coloring book?
http://www.openculture.com/2017/08/the-dune-coloring-activity-books.html

>>5334825
> Instead, Lynch and producer Dino De Laurentis provided them with a dark epic actually fit for consumption by thinking adults

Kek, I like the movie, but that's pushing it.

>>5333657
I'm currently reading through all the original sequels, and Heretics of Dune feels a lot more sexual than the first few.
>>5334446
I'm not familiar with the soundtrack to the first game, but I strongly prefer the Adlib version of Dune 2's music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WKBjmJCBHw

A lot of the PCM-based MIDI orchestrations from that era just sound corny to me, and not in a good way.
>>5334834
People need to learn that it's okay to like something without trying to over-intellectualize it.

Have you seen Spicediver's edit of the movie?

>>5335063

But a fucking coloring book? Wtf?

I've never played the original Dune.

But I did have Dune: The Battle for Arrakis for the Sega Genesis, and it was basically a 16-bit home point of Dune II. The game is basically proto-C&C with the Dune storyline and setting. It plays well for a Genesis attempt at a RTS game, and has an awesome Klepacki soundtrack. But the game is still much better on DOS and the modern C&C fan engines.

>>5335134
Yeah, it was a pretty bizarre idea given the weirdness of the movie (and, to a less degree, the book). I would have thought it was a parody if I hadn't heard about it a long time ago.
>>5335164
>But the game is still much better on DOS and the modern C&C fan engines.
There's apparently an effort going to bring an actual Dune 2 adaptation (not just Dune 2000) over to OpenRA: https://github.com/OpenRA/d2

As slow as the progress will likely be, I'm glad to see someone working on it.

>>5334529
Nothing, I just love him and he loves Dune. Even dedicated a piece to Frank Herbert.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krE5T57hFp4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su4_vCRS5ac

Someone kept posting about Emperor Battle for Dune on /v/ a while back. I tried it out and it's not bad but nothing about it feels like Dune. It's like Command & Conquer with Dune lore.

>>5335885
Even its adherence to Dune lore is pretty loose. The Ordos especially feel just like a generic sci-fi faction.

The Dune games were never close to the books, though. That's especially obvious with all the contemporary-style weaponry your troops are fighting with. They were based primarily on the movie (although it's not too faithful to that, either), with the Ordos being taken from a couple houses mentioned in the Dune Encyclopedia. Then, after Westwood lost the Dune license, they decided to create a spiritual successor to the Dune 2 with their own original IP. That's where the harvesters and Tiberian Sun's carryalls came from.

I can't say I'm that big of a fan of Emperor, but David Arkenstone's Harkonnen music was great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWtG3EkvSJg

Should I go for Dune 2 or Dune 2000?

>>5333657
The fifth and sixth books have a lot of eroticism. My father onced walked in on me sitting in bed reading that part in Heretics of Dune with my hand in my crotch under my underwear. He read the books also, so he probably guessed what I was up to

>>5336517
Why not both? As long as you're not new to rts, the campaigns are neither difficult nor long. I did Dune 2 -> Dune 2k -> Emperor campaigns marathon with Ordos. I mean to do it with other factions too.

>>5336535
Is it like GRRM's erotic scenes in the ASoIaF series?

>>5336552
Do all versions of Dune 2000 have the cutscenes with live actors?

>>5336596
Haven't read that. There are only one or two scenes. Read Dune for the epic sci-fi. Also to prepare for the coming film.
>>5336609
Don't know, but why would you play anything other than the pc version?

>>5336753
>Also to prepare for the coming film.
I'm sorry, but I'm done with Hollwood after its become nothing but blatant social engineering.

>>5336517
I prefer Dune 2 aesthetically, but be prepared for an antiquated interface that makes WarCraft: Orcs & Humans feel like Red Alert 2. If you can't handle that, go for Dune 2000.

I do like some of the unique features lacking in most other RTS games, like carryalls automatically bringing back heavily damaged vehicles to the repair buildings.

>>5336760
Sure, since Villeneuve's previous films were full of offensive and scary "blatant social engineering," and Hollywood hasn't been offending sensitive moral crusaders since its very inception with "blatant social engineering."

>>5332914
Gorgeous cover art

>>5332914
>>5336847
I was hoping for something that looks a bit more like Moebius.

Emperor was shit?

>>5333579
>>5333578
I really don't know what to think about it being a bookfag, since most characters have extremely detailed descriptions and Feyd was a black haired shota
Props on Piter though, he is perfect

>>5333592
Does it affect the game when you tell your dad your mom gave you a tittyjob?

>>5338065
I'm sure it was part of your prana bindu training

>>5338061
?

>>5337779
Was it?

Is there a place to download Dune 2000 with the cutscenes? https://www.freegameempire.com/games/Dune-2000 This runs fine but no cutscenes seem to play.

>>5338091
Pretty much

>>5336814
>movie from 1984
>"muh sjw social engineering where?"
>honestly trying to claim that the reason decades old movies don't have identity politics is because "social engineering" isn't real
Holy fuck you weak, sleeping baby. How do those khazar milkers taste btw? Alright, let's take a look at any progressive social issue across the years; it is always normalized in sitcoms, movies, and music coincidentally just a few years before any social issue is accepted. People turn off their brain and absorb information if they've had a hard day at work and just want to watch their favorite evening show or pop in a movie. And when they drive to work they mindlessly take in pop song lyrics and repeat them in their head throughout the day; do you think having yourself in a perpetual internal chant wont affect your thoughts eventually? It's called "programming" for more than one reason. You can make a joke of it all you want, but by remaining a sheep you end up a useful idiot until you actually think with that withering brain of yours. And it's not REALLY about it being either offensive or offended anyway; it's about dealing with annoying, faggot invalids who hate the west so much that they are willing to chop their dick off and murder babies up until birth just to get one over on God. It's all pathetic, and obviously not true if it has to be forced so strongly

>>5337779
Does Emperor follow the same basic gameplay as the original? Build wind catchers for power and refineries for spice to make money? Dune 2 is literally the only RTS I've ever played.

>>5337763
It's pretty strange imagining how Orson Welles was supposed to play him in the Jodorowsky version.
>>5338141
Yeah, at least on the Arrakis maps. I remember playing on Caladan a lot in skirmish games, and there you're just given money every so often to make up for the lack of spice harvesting. There are still windtraps, though.

>>5338139
lol you sound mad, and you're replying to what you think you read, which is completely different from the post you're replying to. I hope you at least feel better after venting.
I don't think Villeneuve made a film in 1984, so maybe you were referring to the original Dune film. Read more carefully next time? And the post was sarcastic when it said Hollywood didn't have social engineering since inception, since >>5336760 was hinting that blatant social engineering was some new phenomenon.
Not sure why you're so spooked about social engineering, since you seem pretty engineered already judging by your rant.
Don't worry about me- I never read books or play video games or interact with low-iq people, so I'll never be a brainwashed sheep and remain intellectually pure.

Are there any games that capture the feel of the Dune books?
The only thing I can think of is Panzer Dragoon, but the setting really takes more from Nausicaa

>>5338139
lol you sound mad, and you're replying to what you think you read, which is completely different from the post you're replying to. I hope you at least feel better after venting.
I don't think Villeneuve made a film in 1984, so maybe you were referring to the original Dune film. Read more carefully next time? And the post was sarcastic when it said Hollywood didn't have social engineering since inception, since >>5336760 was hinting that blatant social engineering was some new phenomenon.
Not sure why you're so spooked about social engineering. Judging by your rant, you seem pretty engineered already.
Don't worry about me- I never read books or play video games or interact with low-iq people, so I'll never be a brainwashed sheep and remain intellectually pure.
>>5338095
They're all on youtube, and I think that's where I watched them in-between missions.
>>5337779
>>5338141
Emperor plays a lot like 2 and 2k. The problem is that it's too quick and simple to just spam refineries, factories, and tanks. It's not too different in previous titles, but spamming just tanks and moving them into enemy base feels more clear-cut in Emperor.

>>5338295
>They're all on youtube, and I think that's where I watched them in-between missions.
That seems like more trouble than it's worth. Do they add anything to the story, or is the text enough?

>>5338131
I understand Vladimir better now

Which faction is best? Am I a pleb for choosing House Atreides all the time?

>>5338305
It's been a while. The beginning and the ending videos might be important. Honestly, the story is basically Dune 2, and as detailed. The campaign videos are more about flavour than story, and are fundamental to setting the mood. As a gimmick, the Ordos mentat starts off sounding like he has difficulty breathing, but as the campaign progresses, he sounds healthier and more energetic.

Can you marry your mother in this game?

>>5338510
>Brian

>>5338320
In Dune 2 the factions are basically difficulty settings (with the Ordos being the hardest and most useless, the Harkonnens the easiest, and the Atreides somewhere in between).

I'd pick the Harkonnens both for their devastators and just because I like their aesthetics. I really like the Ordos symbol from Emperor does look pretty radical, but that's not something I'm going to let sway me.

>>5338395
>Tripping balls on spice
>Literally screaming your objectives at you by the end
>healthier

>>5338595
Spice is life!

>>5338554
>Brian
>Brian Herbert
Ouch, a needless jab at the poor guy.
Truth be told I enjoy his books but but only as action novels using a familiar setting

>>5338315
To be fair every male in the series except Thufir and Rabban were absolutely handsome (Not sure if Tleilaxu count since they barely are humans)
He could have lusted every man in the known universe but he was quite respectful to his nephew

>>5338091
Larsa looks more like how I envision Paul. I imagine he'd sound like his English voice too.

>>5338584
I looked at a guide and it says that Atreides is the weakest faction, but they get better air units plus Fremen support. Harkonnen is the worst at spice mining, while Ordos is the best and builds their units the fastest. Harkonnen is the best armed and hits the hardest.

>>5338584
>I really like the Ordos symbol from Emperor does look pretty radical
Maybe I should start proofreading my posts a little better.
>>5339073
>Truth be told I enjoy his books but but only as action novels using a familiar setting
Same here. I just treat them like pulp novels that make for enjoyable light reading. Sure, they might not be completely true to the universe or and have slightly more depth than a kiddie pool, but I don't really get the rabid hatred for them from people who probably read young adult novels that aren't much different in terms of execution.
>To be fair every male in the series except Thufir and Rabban were absolutely handsome (Not sure if Tleilaxu count since they barely are humans)
I think the first book called Gurney "an ugly lump of a man" or something to that effect.
>>5339115
Atreides at least get sonic tanks, and the Fremen palace ability is alright. The Ordos get the nearly worthless saboteur ability and are stuck with deviators in place of rocket launchers. Rocket launchers can only be ordered from the starport. The raider trikes are nothing to write home about, either.

I haven't beaten the game as the Harkonnens, but considering that they get devastators, rocket launchers, and the death hand missiles they've got to be the strongest faction.

>>5338139
>murder babies up until birth just to get one over on God

the good shit!

https://gruntmods.com/dune_2000_gruntmods_edition/

Has anyone tried this modded Dune 2000? This one apparently has the cutscenes plus online

>>5339135
wtf is that cover lol

>>5339496
I'm not sure what's going on, but it's incredible. The Dune books seemed to lend themselves really well to bizarre artwork.

>>5339482
I literally dragged and dropped the Movies folder from that version to
>>5338095
>https://www.freegameempire.com/games/Dune-2000
And it worked. The original game on free games sites has the movies removed for some reason.

>>5336847
are there high def images?

>>5339604
That version of Chani is a lot more attractive than Sean Young's portrayal.