/vr/ - Retro Games

High taxes, bad 50hz conversions, lackluster marketing.

>>5323996
At least you had the speccy which anons on here have repeatedly assured me was the pinnacle of gaming.

where is that

>>5324004
still doesn't explain the taste. I grew up with mario galaxy and pokemon diamond and pearl and those were just as popular here as in the US, so you would have expected more nintendofans here.
ofc fifa and cod are huge here, but some people like the comfy sprite nintendo feel

>>5323996
Here in the South we have more console fags than pc gamers.

I wonder how many people outside of PAL territories collect PAL games. I was of the impression that some PAL SNES games are actually quite expensive, so I guess there are some people in Euroland who collect old console games, unless there are many foreigners who are buying up PAL releases.

>>5323996
it exists, but me and most of my friends had famiclones

Plenty of EU people are here, I myself am from Ireland. The US is about six times the size of Ireland/UK put together and everywhere else in europe has english as a second language. Retro Gamer magazine is uk-based. Maybe there's a lack of shitty e-celeb youtubers but that's no bad thing, there's a lack of uk youtubers in general.

living under a stone OP?


at least here in Germany and France it has grown to the point of being ridiculous....


you got everybody and their grandma foraging for "RARE" videogames and we got like a dozen retro game fairs througout the year..


the community is huge - too huge...

>>5324306
OP meant civilized countries

>>5324306
I live in Norway, I guess I just got the shortest straw.

>>5324331


ok - I guess the retro scene over there is rather small..

Not enough games with little girls on the Famiclone.

>>5324331
Norway's I think is still bigger than that of Moldova, Belarus and Russia

>>5323996
Because you're a fortnite baby who only knows other fortnite babies?

Netherlands here, we got one fair and I've never actually seen someone else who cares about retro, those people live in Germany.

I may be one of a handful of people in the UK that has a flashcart for my NeoGeo Pocket Color.

In France there are small video game stores that live only thanks to the retro. There are chains of shops selling second-hand items that highlight their retro department. Snes games selling like Super Probotector in loose at 30 €, Xenogear at 70 €, Suikoden 2 at 200 € etc ... Several youtubeurs like AVGN who have more than one million subscribers. For 10 years there was a TV channel dedicated to video games and most of the shows were on the retro. Every Sunday of the empty loft are raked by boomers.

>>5324021

because before mmorpgs the custom was for kids to hang together and play things like worms, doom, warcraft, hmm, civ, aoe, etc. etc... and then compulsively obsessively play on and on home alone, on pcs, so the pc was like a altar youd spend 7 hours per day just klicking away, but this way way before consoles, these were pentiums 484 and comodores, but thats why loads of people asociate gaming with pcs instead of consoles

not that it wasnt the exact same thing with play station, its just that it was a generation before it, and then online multiplayers came up and people just kept playing them on pcs, cause it made sense

As far as eastern europe goes the soviet union killed the chances of any kind of thriving console/arcade market outside of pirated shit and clones like Dendy. Instead of playing at the local arcade kids went to LAN places and played games there

>>5325357


I got the impression that most of those who visit the fair in Apeldoorn were actually Dutch.

I like the PC dominance here, even some jocks played games like Red Alert, Civ and HoMM3 here during the 90s. Then Counter Strike came around 1999. and no one cared about other games except that and Football Manager.

>>5325397
Pretty much.
Only thing ive seen is a million variations of famiclones in all shapes and sizes,one (1) N64 that a friend borrowed it from a foreign kid and we played mario kart it was alright,few kids that had PS1 though I never played it,"LAN" places had some PS2s and recently some PS3s.
PS platform is almost exclusively used for the latest FIFA or PES and sometimes on a full moon NBA game.

>>5323996
>why is the retro console scene here so... non-existant
Because everyone got PC instead.

>>5325839
why?

>>5324306
Tell me about those retro game fairs.

>>5326905
Because it's better

>>5325606
Where are those, I go to the Zwolle one often.

>>5327059
No

i don't care about the retro scene, but i gotta say growing up in the 90s in yurop was comfy. nice real competition between nintendo and sega, dozens of magazines, and i don't think i'll ever experience anything as wondrous ever again as flipping through the classified ads in gaming magazines looking at all the offers from import stores. i revered the xenogears copy my local pc and videogame store had. that shit aint never coming back. all is lost.

>>5323996
MS-DOS CHADS HAVE WON ONCE AGAIN

Scene? What the hell more do you want? I buy my games and play them. Also "Europe" is hardly a thing. There's too much linguistic and cultural divide between countries, you're better off focusing on your country. Whatever general statement you want to make about Europe is not gonna stick on a per country basis. Here in poortugay the retro console market has downgraded a little but I still find some good deals

>>5328146
>There's too much linguistic and cultural divide between countries, you're better off focusing on your country. Whatever general statement you want to make about Europe is not gonna stick on a per country basis.
that's entirely true but i still kinda feel like we should stick together yknow

how was gaming in the 90s in portugal? did you learn english and spanish from imports? i know i learned english from imports. i know nothing about it but i'd like to.

>>5325606
Apeldoorn has a really nice video game store with all kinds of retro games. Maybe it has even two stores. I forgot. Also the laser tag in Apeldoorn is amazingly cheap.

>>5328149
Reminds me of how badly I wanted to play Leisure Suite Larry 1 just because of the flying rubber doll. OMG VIDEO GAME TITTIES!
I don't know any English at all at that time. Didn't have English classes yet so I would play this game with a dictionary next to me and god it took ages looking up every single word. I also never made it very far into the game because I just couldn't think of calling for a taxi. I assumed you could just walk to everything.

>>5323996
Playstation and Mega Drive were huge successes in Europe, what are you talking about? The Super Nintendo did fine enough too.

anons write a short report on gaming in the 90s in your country GO

>>5328062

>>5326905
>Has much greater utility than retro consoles
>Isn't considered a toy, but a tool
>Price ratio is still small enough to make it viable choice
>Games are released in abundance, along with bargain prices
>No video game crash equivalent to shift buying patterns and producers in the business
>Extremely inept attempts at entering the market by Japanese companies
And besides all that, up until... 7th generation of consoles, PC is by default a better choice, no matter what. Then you are just buying a weaker PC with smaller library of games it can run than a PC when picking any given console, but at least it finally has SOME utility beyond games. Ironically, the whole "plug & play" advantage of consoles was lost in that exact generation, so it gets even worse.

tl;dr PC is a better choice on the long run, always was and always will be, but this is something average American can't grasp, simply because completely different context of market patterns and historical reasons.
If I have to pay equivalent of 400 bucks for a console and 600 for a PC, then I will buy a PC. It's that fucking simple. And by "bucks" I mean local buying value, not actual USD.

>>5328191
i think i know why you're such a joyless grinch. you never had a console.

>>5328193
I had a Famiclone and Sega Genesis. Both were explicitly bought as toys.
Try harder with your argumentless ad homs

>>5328201
playing with toys as a kid was already beneath you, huh. joyless little shit.

Were Rare's games big in Europe? They're from that region but I don't know how well they did on their side of the pond.

>>5328214
I had to check what they even published, so this should tell you something about their popularity

>>5328217
Ah, alright. Just wanted to know, thanks.

>>5328149
In the 90s we were Sega land, if you ever want to find a Saturn for cheap come here and pick up one lying on the streets, this is something very few people know and assume it only did well in Japan. Regarding Spain, it may not come as a surprise that we don't like them in a meme sort of way but enough that we don't consume their media or their language. I learned English from watching too much cartoon Network from a German satellite

>>5328223
shit man that's interesting.

i'd kinda pay for a comprehensive book on european gaming history.

on that note, i'd so fucking pay for a comprehensive book on the south american gaming history. i only know tiny nuggets but it sounds fucking rough and wild and weird.

>>5328214
Of course they were don't be an idiot, the only big difference with americans and europeans when it comes to gaming is that we are more computer orientated and we have better boxart. Tastes and the like are almost the same.

>>5328248
nah i don't know man, germans have always had a boner for simulation games.

>>5328191

>No video game crash equivalent

There wasn't a crash for consoles her either.
The first time I heard that the video game market had once crashed somewhere on the internet because it certainly didn't happen here.

>>5328214

Hell yeah. Banjo-Kazooie was a HUGE hit.

>>5328287
>American video game crash is just a hoax
Yeah... no

>>5328149
>we should stick together
Deluded much? Brexit, frexit, even 3rd world shitholes want to get out of the clusterfuck.

>>5327024

www.retroboerse.de

>>5327223


https://computermuseum.nl/evenementen/beurzen/retro-spelcomputer-beurs/

>>5329414
>Talks about delusion
>Brings up Frexit

>>5329441
>born after EEC
>born after EU
>born after the cutoff date for /vr/
>thinks it's opinion matters

Here in finland the retroscene is pretty big and old, at least. New blood is also slowly coming in thanks to events

>>5329441
>frexit bad
>posts pic of niggers
>NPC detected

>>5323996
Shit marketing
Abundance of relatively cheap PC solutions that were popularized as education tool by schools and thus often bought by parents in stead of a console.
Software piracy went mostly overlooked until 2000's = free copied games from your friends.
Hell, I even remember instances when games were BROADCASTED by radio (that you record onto a tape) - they didnt even know that sharing games this way wasa law violation, and nobody cared.

>>5330202
>Frexit is unfeasible option with no ground in reality
>HURRR CHECK THE NPC THINKING FREXIT BAD DURRR
Jumping to conclusions much? The only reason why Frexit was even coined was the (unlikely) possibility of Le Pen winning French presidential elections, since she was the only one pushing that agenda. Guess who didn't won the elections and what didn't happen.
Ergo - expecting Frexit is delusional.

>>5331226
>delusional globalist poltard shitposts to feel better
kek

>Where my fellow EUbros at?
>Why are everyone here PCbros
Because Europe has always been PCland? What are you smoking? The vast majority of console gamers here are just sportsfags who had a Playstation to play FIFA/PES, and sportsfags usually are a very separate group from people who play other games.

>>5331318
>brings himself /pol/ shit
>hurr durr durr no u

>>5332053
>fails
>fails hurr drrring

>>5332396
>is /pol/tard
>is retarded