/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5321029
No.

>>5321029
Nights into dreams
Burning rangers
Guardian heroes
Panzer dragoon, zwei, and saga

Tons of arcade games but you don’t want ports.

>>5321029
Keep on walking normie, you are not welcome here.

>>5321050
Name 3 good saturn games that are not arcade ports

>>5321067
See >>5321041

>>5321067
Astal
Shining the Holy Ark
Shinobi Legions
NiGHTS
Guardian Heroes

Panzer Dragoon Zwei
Legend of oasis
Clockwork knight 1&2
Shining Wisdom
Burning Rangers
Bug 1&2
Psychiic killer Taroumarou
Radiant Silver Gun

>>5321675
Isn't RSG on arcade?

Bulk Slash
Saturn Bomberman

Depends what you mean by weebshit. Most good games for it were only released in Japan. If that bothers you, the console probably isn't worth your time

>>5321774
Probably means stuff like dating sims, visual novels, jarpigs, etc

There can be some based jap games as long as they aren't overly anime/otaku-pandering

Stop bullying Saturn-sama.

A
Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
Assault Suit Leynos 2
Astal
B
Battle Monsters
Black Fire (video game)
Burning Rangers
C
Clockwork Knight
Clockwork Knight 2
Congo The Movie: The Lost City of Zinj
CrimeWave
Cyber Speedway
D
Dark Savior
Deep Fear
Digital Pinball: Last Gladiators
Dungeon Master Nexus
Dungeons & Dragons Collection
F
F1 Challenge
G
Ghen War
Gotha (video game)
Grandia: Digital Museum
Gungriffon
H
Hang-On GP
High Velocity
I
Iron Storm (1995 video game)
L
The Legend of Oasis
Lunacy (video game)
M
Magic Knight Rayearth (video game)
Majin Tensei
Mr. Bones (video game)
Mystaria: The Realms of Lore
N
Nanatsu Kaze no Shima Monogatari
NFL '97
P
Panzer Dragoon Saga
R
Robotica (video game)
S
Saturn Bomberman
Saturn Bomberman Fight!!
Scud: The Disposable Assassin (video game)
Shining Force III
Shining the Holy Ark
Shining Wisdom
Shinobi Legions
Shinrei Jusatsushi Tarōmaru
Super Tempo
V
Virtual Hydlide
Virtual Open Tennis
Virtual Volleyball
W
Wachenröder
Wing Arms
World Series Baseball II
Worldwide Soccer: Sega International

>>5321896
>Virtual Hydlide
Ugh... just saying it makes you wanna puke.

>>5321946
Lol I think the graphics for the game looks cheesy
But lots of people on AVGN's review of it said they would love to play that game.
.others claimed to have played and liked virtual hydlyde.

>>5321029
Look at that controller it is so sexy

>>5321029
Yes. Quite a few. Why don't you make like a good little bandwagoner and watch some youtube?

Is there a cheaper Saturn ODE than the Pheobe/Rhea?

>>5322387
No. The Chinks need to clone them asap.

>>532239
They DID clone the GDEMU so its only a matter of time

>>5322409
I own a Chinese GDemu and Chinese pseudoSaturn cart and love them both. I have been waiting for a Saturn ODE clone for ages. I heard rumours here that they are harder to clone than the GDemu because of some reason or other I don't remember.

>>5322489
It's probably because there's two different ODE depending on the model you have, I can't imagine that being easy to advertise on Aliexpress. What cart are you referring too?

>>5321029
gungriffon
cyberia
virtual-on?

>>5321029
Wapanese fucktard fruitcake here. What are some games for this thing that ARE gay weebshit?

Action replay or modchip? Please help

>>5322982
Sakura Wars 1+2

Magical Hoppers/Pandemonium, multiplat but it's the best version

DRAGON FORCE

>>5323795
Isn't it only the opening which is better?

>>5321034
Go away Bernie, nobody likes you.

>>5324123
based

>>5321029

>>5323756
Pls respond

>>5323756
Get an action replay for the extra RAM and install Pseudo Saturn on it to play backups and games from any region.

>>5323826
this desu

>>5321689
Same hardware

LINKLE
I
V
E
R

Shitting on Arcade ports is like the easiest way to give away your underageness.

>>5321029
In case you did not notice. This is a Video Game enthusiast board, GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.

>>5321041
>Nights into dreams
multiplat

>Burning rangers
wobbly trash running at 10 fps

>Guardian heroes
multiplat, and the Saturn version is the worst, enjoy your unskippable cutscenes

>Panzer dragoon, zwei, and saga
The first game is multiplat.

Zwei and Saga are legitimately good, I give you those, but they are not without their flaws. Zwei is too "cinematic" and has less intense shooting levels compared to the first game (the last boss is infinitely better however), and Saga can be maxed out in a weekend - not the length you'd expect from a 4cd game.

>>5321896
>Albert Odyssey: Legend of Eldean
SNES game with Working Designs translation

>Astal
Extremely slow and clunky controls. Great spritework though.

>Battle Monsters
>Black Fire (video game)
kusoge

>Burning Rangers
bad controls, bad camera, low framerate, worse case of polygon wobbling than the worst PSX game

>Clockwork Knight
>Clockwork Knight 2
average platform games with no redeeming qualities. The cutscene music tracks were dope though.

>Congo The Movie: The Lost City of Zinj
poor doom clone

>CrimeWave
Fun game, but slows down too much compared to the PC original.

>Cyber Speedway
poor Wipeout clone

>Dark Savior
horrible controls, how come they couldn't map up the diagonals properly?

>Deep Fear
poor clone of the first Resident Evil, and the first RE was already terrible enough

>Digital Pinball: Last Gladiators
First legitimately good game on the list so far, but it has unrealistic ball physics that got fixed in a re-release, Last Gladiators 97. The game is also multiplatform.

>Dungeons & Dragons Collection
You need to be into the slow paced D&D style micromanagement to enjoy this. It's not a bad belt scroller otherwise, but it's not my cup of tea.

>Ghen War
kusoge

>Gotha
Most boring srpg I ever seen.

>Grandia: Digital Museum
It's a bonus disc to the full game.

not even going to bother with the rest, it's obvious you filled it with like 3 good games and a ton of two-cent shit.

>>5323756
modchip

>>5325940
>belt scroller
If you're going to be this low-effort at baiting at least include a throwaway line or two about the "Sega System," faggot

>>5326061
Any specific reason why? I'm open to either, but action
replay is slightly cheaper with the added feature of having the ram boost. Also, my console is jap so it'll need a bios mod to run US games with a mod chip .. I think?

>>5321029
Honestly there are a few but it’s mostly a meme system. PS1 master race.

>>5323863
>The Saturn version lacks transparancies and the colored lighting, instead replacing much of the shading in a stark high contrast effect with washed out hues shifting into blacks on the models.
I remembered it wrong

Dragon Force and its sequel are amazing games, but they're pretty weeb. Most Saturn games are pretty weebshit.

>>5325497
There's no reason to need consoles for arcade games now that MAME exists, though.

ASTRA SUPERSTARS

>>5326132
modchip is $25 off of ebay and is more reliable. Action Replay occupies the cart slot, so half the time it won't work, and even when it does, pseudo Saturn doesn't have full compatibility.

Yeah, it doesn't get around region coding, but you can patch games prior burning. There's also a region free bios which costs $5 but can be difficult to install without a heat gun to remove the old bios. But if you have a jap system, you are unlikely to need it anyway, unless you want to play the two or three RPGs worth playing on the Saturn (PDS, SF3...).

>>5326576
I definitely want to play the few rpgs for saturn, but it sounds like I can region patch them before burning. However I do have a rework station to change the bios. I'll look up a guide now.

>>5326609
Well if you want to play RPGs then you need the cart slot for saves, so you might as well go for the modchip. Action Replay doesn't let you save in-game, and the internal memory only holds 1-3 saves in most games. You have to boot the AR and use its menu to copy saves over, but if you do this it might corrupt the AR firmware (because the cart slot is so shit), and then your card ends up bricked.

Yeah, that can happen to save carts too, but then you can format the cart and go on, while for the AR you need to set up your machine for a swap trick so you can run a firmware flasher to restore the original firmware.

At which point you might as well just install a modchip and not worry about the AR kicking the bucket.

I don't even know if Pseudo even allows you to save, even in its own menu. The AR can, but you need it flashed to Pseudo to run backups.

>>5326491
There is when the console version adds more content. Vampire Savior on Saturn has 3 more characters than the CPS2 original.

>>5326630
And doing the save transfer onto the AR also assumes that the internal battery is still working right? If not, it isnt even possible i take it.
If I'm opening up the console to swap the bios and install a mod chip i might just swap the battery too. I think i might be okay with just the one or two saves at a time for now. I rarely revisit games/saves and only play one game at a time.

Thanks

>>5326090
>If you're going to be this low-effort at baiting at least include a throwaway line or two about the "Sega System," faggot

>>5326673
>If I'm opening up the console to swap the bios and install a mod chip i might just swap the battery too.

The battery can be swapped without opening up the console, it's like swapping a battery in a calculator. You open up a door on the back and you can pop out the battery with your fingers.

Soldering a modchip only requires taking the top off. Also note that I recommend soldering to the 5V line on the CD Drive, not the power supply, the chips have spotty compatibility and doing this will greatly increase the chances of them working. It also allows for far neater cable management.

Swapping the bios requires full disassembly to gain access to the motherboard, plus you need a heatgun if you want to remove the chip without damaging traces on the motherboard.

>>5326491
There are plenty of threads for emubabies like you. Adults are talking here.

>>5321029
>are there are any good games for this besides the stuff it was famous for

No you fucking retard, why the fuck do you want a Saturn if not for weebshit and arcade ports?

>>5326735
not him but i have a saturn and apart from the stv you are better playing emu than innacurate ports.

>>5326735
He is right though. None of the arcade ports on the Saturn are actually "arcade perfect", most suffer from framedrops, wrong resolution, downscaled audio, missing frames, missing special effects, missing backgrounds, or completely downscaled in every way. Depending on whether we are talking about Street Fighter 2 or Darius Gaiden or Virtua Fighter 2.

Even the most simple stuff ported from STV have differences, mostly in audio quality. Radiant Silvergun is probably the only actually perfect "arcade perfect" conversion.

>>5326785
don't forget loading as well.console cucks just need to justify there purchases.
saturn dodonpachi is much faster than arcade and has horrible pixellated explosions etc.
still i do love the saturn but for arcade stuff it's pretty redundant.
nekketsu oyako is a sidescrolling bmup thats not an arcade port thats worth a look and is better than the playstation version.i would only burn a copy tho as it's definitely not worth the collectro prices it fetches nowadays.

>>5326785
The main thing about arcade ports is that they often include some extra features absent from the arcade.
And it's overall still a good experience.
Emulation will always be just that, emulation.
I'm grateful emulation exists (it's free, too), but to entirely dismiss console ports and pretend that emulation is always better is wrong.

>>5325940
shut your ass, gungriffon is tight as fuck

>>5326815
>The main thing about arcade ports is that they often include some extra features absent from the arcade.

Yeah it sure as hell is lovely to play a Survival Mode with the game being downscaled and missing half its animation.

And most console ports don't allow for tweaking settings in the service menu, like the damage level in fighting games.

Arcade ports on the Saturn were only good for their time. Today, they are nearly useless, partially because of emulation, but partially because many games have significantly better ports now.

>>5326849
not really, stuff like dedicated VS mode is pretty good, instead of having to go to arcade mode > "a challenger appears!" >char selection screen every time you want to play VS.
Many of them also have a practice mode (or you can improvise a practice mode, some let you have infinite health for second player in VS mode).
>but partially because many games have significantly better ports now.
The thing with many moden ports is that they don't support SD resolutions.
I'm not saying Saturn arcade ports are the best or only way to play arcade games, but it's still a good option and it's not emulation.

>>5326856
>not really, stuff like dedicated VS mode is pretty good, instead of having to go to arcade mode > "a challenger appears!" >char selection screen every time you want to play VS.
>doing all that shit when you could just pop a savestate which takes you back to the character select screen where both players can pick who they want
You're kinda slow, aren't you.

>Many of them also have a practice mode (or you can improvise a practice mode, some let you have infinite health for second player in VS mode).
MAME has cheats that give the second player infinite health, so once again, no reason to use inaccurate ports.

>>5323826
>DRAGON FORCE


This and Shining Force 3 are my two favorite strategy RPG's from that generation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIdlvWIvSe0

I love all the sprites that Dragon Force puts on screen during a battle. I believe it throws up 128 sprites on screen at once at any given time.

Also, Shining in the Holy Ark is a solid dungeon crawler.

>>5326963
>but it's still a good option and it's not emulation.
Maybe you should try reading better.
I'm not ruling out emulation, but I was actually comparing real hardware stuff.
If talking emulation, have fun F7ing your way thorugh multiple matches in order to get 1 full minute of practice mode, I guess.

>>5327020
I don't even recall many Saturn arcade ports with a practice mode. Fighters Megamix, DOA, and maybe the SF Alphas only?

>>5326774
>better
Not a chance sport. I'm much better playing games without unnecessary lag. Emufag meltdown in 3..2..1


>>5326785
>none of the games are actually what you never said they are
Yup. They also aren't elephants or tulips or anything else I never said they were. What they are is lacking in unnecessary lag. I know casual emulets can't notice it so it doesn't exist for them but for people who actually play games instead of hoarding ROMs it's a problem. Also, it's cute you're not aware that saturn has games other than arcade ports.

Die Hard Arcade.

It's the only game I care about on my saturn.

>>5327469
That game is cheezy as hell and that makes it awesome.

>>5327020
>If talking emulation, have fun F7ing your way thorugh multiple matches in order to get 1 full minute of practice mode, I guess.
There's a cheat to make the match have infinite time, too.

Maybe you should try playing some games in and messing around with MAME before commenting on it.

>>5327441
>le input lag maymay
Only shitplayers whine about lag.

>>5327557
>Only shitplayers can't notice lag
FTFYK

>>5327557
Is there a cheat to include the Hunter characters on arcade vampire savior?

>>5327469
>>5327476
The sequel was so much better. Undeniably a superior game.

>>5327441
lmao, your uncle tell you there was emulator lag 10 years ago and you still can't figure out he was full of shit?

Stop misunderstanding delay and lag. Stop repeating this nonsense about emulators.

>>5327689
It's definitely better, but the first one is still great.

>>5327441
>What they are is lacking in unnecessary lag

So you trade input lag (that you could fix, if you cared enough...) to slowdown, framedrops, downsampled audio and graphic cutdowns..

>>5327794
>reee stop enjoying authentic official ports on real hardware! you must only enjoy the vidya if you hack the shit out of the games to get an emulated experience!
k

>>5327691
Nah My work on MAME told me that. You have to add hacks to MAME to get under a frame lag for many games.

>>5327794
Sorry sport. You can't "fix" lag in MAME. You can reduce it but I'd prefer none. Yes I'm willing to accept a few issues in exchange for that. You're willing to accept a constant "slowdown" because that's what lag is. I'm also willing to accept the better sound and better graphics I get with some ports.

Why are casual emubabies so predictable?

>>5327680
Nope, they made a revision that added them but also removed 3 other characters. There is no arcade revision with all of the characters.

>>5325907
Shining Force 3
scenario 1, 2, 3, premium disc

Radiant Silvergun(extra stuff than from the STV version)

Sonic Jam

Sonic 3d blast

silhouette mirage

Psychic Killer Tarumaro

HyperDuel(upgraded stuff from arcade)

Saturn Bomberman

Mega man 8(exclusive content)

Fighting Vipers (Japanese saturn version is only one that has freaking Pepsiman)

Magic Knight Rayearth

Dragon Force

Shining the Holy Ark

Miss my Saturn however I really only owned ports except I had Nights Into Dreams.

>>5325907
>The first game is multiplat.

Because you could unlock it in PDO? Come on now.

If you want to be a real bitch mention that PD and PD2Z are being remade.

>>5328070
>Radiant Silvergun
>silhouette mirage
>Psychic Killer Tarumaro
>HyperDuel

I imported these and others back when they came out for like $60-80 a pop. Good luck getting these at reasonable prices now.

>>5328640
>My mom won't let me use her macbook to burn discs

>>5330478
>macbook with a cd burner
That shit could even be retro by /vr/ standards

>>5330825
It couldn't but I understand why an underage like you would say that

>>5328640
Silhouette Mirage is one of the cheaper games, you can get it for around $60 still (considering inflation, it costs less than it did when it came out). Radiant Silvergun has been $200 for the past ten years, but it's actually worth the cost since it's one of the best games on the system.

Taromaro is an EXTREMELY bad game, other than the graphics and its scarcity, it has nothing going for it. It's a trophy title, you might as well buy an iPhone instead - costs the same but marginally more useful.

Hyper Duel is an average shmup, if it wasn't made by Technosoft it would have nothing going for it. The transformation gimmick makes it pretty difficult and not too fun. And for its cost you could buy every Thunderforce and Parodius game on the Saturn, all of which are better games.

Good?

>>5332192
Your opinion is shit anon, sorry. I enjoy these immensely since release.

>>5321029
Any good threads about this thing that aren't bait/low effort shiposting or gay zoomers?

>>5332667
No. Every post on /vr/ is bait/low effort shiposting or gay zoomers. You must be new here.

>>5328613
>Because you could unlock it in PDO? Come on now.

it's on ps2 and steam

i think it was delisted off of steam but it only costs $1.65 on g2a

>>5332461
For that price, yeah.

>>5332503
I'd argue that Hyper Duel is good, but Taromaro really is bad. There's huge input lag and you get pinballed around in hit stun too often.

>>5332667
>>5332703
Ironically it is most of the oldbies baiting nowadays, and zoomers are the ones making threads like these.

>>5326983
How's SF3 for somebody new to SRPGs? I'm about done with Nights and am looking at it for my next disc burn.

>>5323756
There's also the pseudo saturn all in one cartridge sold on ebay which can give you the directly to cart saving, the ram expansion, and region freeing/burned discs. The guy doesn't always have them up but they come back regularly enough. 1 or 2 people have said their saves corrupt on theirs but generally they're well liked.

>>5337169
Thanks. Do backups automatically load when
memory carts like pseudo saturn and flashed action replay are inserted? Or do I have to go through some sort of menu?

>>5337204
The pseudo saturn cart goes to a menu, but it loads the disc automatically without having to select anything if you wait 5 seconds

OP...you sir..are a huge failer!

Need I say more?

>>5337243
>twitchfag likes Sega Shiturn
Makes sense.

>>5337239
It looks like compatibility might be the deciding factor here. Some of the games i was most looking forward to playing don't seem to be compatible with AR/pseudo saturn. Dark Savior and Panzer dragoon disc 1 look to be incompatible with the pseudo saturn.
Unless, i'm looking at inaccurate information I'll have to go with a modchip

>>5337243
>tfw you spam your link because you're going live
your posts aren't even good, try harder