/vr/ - Retro Games

Get a cheap one and a chinese EverDrive, and call it day anon.

>>5311965
I would build a new PC and then emulate, because you'll be a lot happier in the end. Most of the N64 library is pretty terrible

>>5311971
This. Real hardware and a flashcart is the best of both worlds.

>>5311971
>>5311975
These guys are mental. Don't even bother with the real hardware for a handful of worthwhile titles.

>>5311965
>emulating N64

>>5311994
>a handful of worthwhile titles.
Every console has only a handful of actually worthwhile titles anyway. And that also depends on each person's individual taste.

>>5312009
>Every console has only a handful of actually worthwhile titles anyway

this is what n64 brainlets actually think. just because your precious shit console only has a handful of playable games, doesnt mean all other consoles had a library of 300 games. there about 300 worthwhile playstation games you dolt. you nintoddlers are the most retarded fucks on the internet.

>>5311972
>>5311994
If you haven't gathered it yet, OP, the only people that will tell you to emulate are console warring autists with an axe to grind like this dude. If you like the console and enjoy several games from it, hunt down an N64 + flashcart, you'll easily get your money's worth.

>investing in an n64
If you're using old game consoles as an investment, you're going to have a rude awakening in a few years.

>>5311971
>>5311975
These guys know what they're talking about. Real N64 with a CRT is max comfy, and with an everdrive you get the entire library of games on a single cartridge.

I recommend getting one of these instead of the Krikzz Everdrives:
https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xed64.TRS0&_nkw=ed64&_sacat=0
It's basically the same thing for a fraction of the price.

>>5312014
I actually own many systems, not just the N64.
Back in the mid 90s, I got a 3DO first, which I later traded in for a PS1 when I realized 3DO wasn't actually going to take off.
Then I got a N64 and a Saturn.
I was a 5th gen idort.
You just seem like a Sony fanboy from /v/, based on your delusional "300 worthwhile games on playstation" line and the whole console warry lingo.
Go back please!
PS doesn't really have that many titles worth revisiting nowadays. Maybe 30 or so.
I find myself going back to N64 (better 3D, no loading times) and Saturn (great 2D) than PS1 (average 3D/average 2D, worse loading times than Saturn).

>>5312018
I'm an oldfag trying to save the kid some money and time. It's not worth it. Spend it elsewhere and be happy.

>>5311965
>considering investing in an n64 should I get the real hardware or get something else to emulate it on, my PC isnt an option because its shit
It is possible with a Wii to add virtual console titles which include many of the better N64 games. This may be all you need. Off the top of my head there is around 20 games. You would need a wii controller if my memory serves me correct, but they are cheap as well. Wii has 480p and component video out to a modern TV.

If you must get an official unit, I say avoid the ED64 plus model of flash cart. These are the black ones that are made in china and cost $60ish us dollars. I had issues with a number of games with one, some of which were games I actually wanted to play. I did test an entire rom set to verify, and in some cases tested 7 various roms from different dumps and regions with no fix. The "Krizz" version worked without issue. However, others have reported no issue with the cheap chink knock offs.

N64s are indestructible except for the analog stick. They wear out, and get pretty shitty over time. Options are there for replacement, and it is easy to get something that doesn't work the same.

>>5312025
>https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR3.TRC1.A0.H0.Xed64.TRS0&_nkw=ed64&_sacat=0
This is the exact model I had issues with. I wouldn't get another one, but others had no issues. Perhaps I got a bad one? Either way, my opinion is set after one bad experience. I know the guy I sold it to had issues also, so I don't think it was me or my specific N64 unit.

>>5312243
>I'm an oldfag trying to save the kid some money and time.
Want to save money? Sell all your consoles get a second job. Drive a 1997 ford taurus until it dies, and buy another one. Make all your meals at home, and never buy pre-made food. Clothes can be had at second hand stores and get a pair of hair clippers and shave your head. You will never have to pay a barber again.

A potato PC should emulate an N64. Mupen was running shit at 60fps on a 13 year old mac, ffs.

>>5312368
That's my experience. This, an HDMI cable to the TV, and a USB be version of an N64 controller should be great.

If you’re only worried about playing the games and not collecting, then grab a system and a flash cart. However, the 64 has lots of good games for decent prices. If $40 a game is too much for you then I guess stay away, but that’s about the max most games will go for. (There are obviously cheaper and more expensive games but I’d say most first party titles and other greats are usually like 20-45)

>>5311965
The N64 is the only console where I would say it's required to play on the real thing. N64 emulation is just too shit.

>>5312420
>n64 emulation is shit

wat.png

>>5312420
This, I stream N64 stuff off hardware, originally tried to do emulation but it's spotty depending on the game. Not hard to set up. Either just get an S-video cable or an upscaler depending on your TV

>>5312423
it's true and you know it

>>5312009
Jumping in this thread for Goemon. One of my GOAT games

Emulation isn't as bad as some lead on, but this is one of the few consoles where actual hardware is sort of necessary at this moment in time (and foreseeable future). Get a console and flashcart if you don't want to be held back.

>>5312423
I was setting up Goemon for a stream I did this past week, the game is literally busted on emultor, the backgrounds have weird rendering properties. There's patches but they aren't 100% perfect. It's just spotty. I own all the worthwhile N64 games I'd want anyways so it's not hard to use hardware.
Really, most of the rare/expensive stuff isn't worth getting
Sculptors Cut is shit
Just get an N64 and invest in an Everdrive or some other flash cart if you can't afford all the games

>>5312330
>Want to save money? Sell all your consoles get a second job. Drive a 1997 ford taurus until it dies, and buy another one. Make all your meals at home, and never buy pre-made food. Clothes can be had at second hand stores and get a pair of hair clippers and shave your head. You will never have to pay a barber again.

>>5312330
>Want to save money? Sell all your consoles get a second job. Drive a 1997 ford taurus until it dies, and buy another one. Make all your meals at home, and never buy pre-made food. Clothes can be had at second hand stores and get a pair of hair clippers and shave your head. You will never have to pay a barber again.
Good advice I doubt this kid is ready to swallow.

>>5312451
It's not necessary for any of the worthwhile games.

Terrible framerates for most games using original hardware and flashcart.

Sure, with emulation you'll occasionally have a graphical glitch, but it's better than spending all your time staring at a 10fps slideshow.

I have an everdrive and don't touch it. Even a weak computer is preferable in 2019 (wouldn't have been true in 2014 which is probably the last time posters here tried emulation)

>>5312454
Are you using a literally 15 year old emulator, or did google ban you from searching?

Because shit plays fine unpatched over here.

>>5312634
http://gliden64.blogspot.com/2018/05/hle-implementation-of-microcodes-for.html

Months and sometimes years of work to make ONE game work=great success. (Really, I give them props, but wake up, N64 emulation is literally a joke.)

>>5312675
>a joke
>compared to sega saturn emulation

nigga, pls.

>>5312675
>"ONE game"
>title of page lists two games

>>5312680
To be fair their both suffered from the same problem, complex systems to code. Saturn was slightly worse since no one else was using quadrilateral polygons.

>>5312684
>>title of page lists two games
HOLY SHIT! Two games? Well, that just blows my argument out of the water. Hey, guise it's kool the n64 emulation scene has 2 whole (COUNT THEM!!!!!1111wow) game on lock down, yo! .jrockfromtrailerparkboys.jpg

>>5312014
I'm a PlayStation guy, but 300 is a bit generous.

>>5312675
>http://gliden64.blogspot.com/2018/05/hle-implementation-of-microcodes-for.html
Oh so the games worked before they're just chasing the accuracy dragon now.

Gotcha.

>>5312720
No, those particular games needed extended surgery or else they weren't running without serious problems. I wish the N64 emu scene was advanced and if it was Nintendo would have sold an N64 Classic.

>>5312675
>"years of work"
>page linked to talks about how it took only a few months once he started
>>5312702
>acting like a complete retard to try and be funny, just comes off underage and cringey

also, n64 scene doesn't have "2 whole" games. These were the last 2 worthwhile games that needed to be done. So, your argument has been blown out of the water. Do a little more research next time.

>>5312734
>can't comprehend greater context of subject
>calls others cringey

>>5312742
>doesn't understand that emulation is evolving at breakneck speed
>can't name a single n64 game that isn't emulate-able today

>>5312753
>Project 64 Initial release: May 26, 2001; 17 years ago
>Rogue Squadron made playable 17 years later
>breakneck speed

You are a delight.

>>5312764
fucking zoomer

>>5312768
How apropos to the subject, it's almost like you got blown the fuck out. (Gen X)

>>5312764
they haven't been working on getting it to emulate for those 17 years though. it probably took a few developers a couple months. what a retard

>>5312775
Way to miss the point, genius. I'll spell it out: It took 17 years to emulate one game, which is nuts in emulation.

>>5312792
>keeps resorting to irrelevant, incorrect points
so are you going to tell us a n64 game that can't be emulated, or not? you keep claiming emulation sucks but have no proof, meanwhile everyone's emulating very happily in 2019.uh-oh, another angry collector who wasted his money.

>>5312796
Turok Dinosaur Hunter is not running perfectly, so that counts. Don't tell me that games running crappily are acceptable. Mario Party 3 is fucky too. There's lots of other examples, but people who didn't have a real N64 back then or now wouldn't know the difference, so I realize that when reading you.

>>5312806
It runs perfectly. Here it is running on a fucking nvidia shield https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eik_U4_ZZuU
On a nice computer it's flawless.
All the "examples" from people like you are situations that were true 5-10 years ago, not not using the right emulators. Don't tell me a small graphical glitch is "running crappily" either.

>>5312818
not using*

>>5312818
You know they left out all the tweaking that they'd have to go through, right? ;) Dude, I've been around, I'm not falling for that naive crap.

>>5312818
>Don't tell me a small graphical glitch is "running crappily" either.

"Bad emulation is good, bro!"

>>5312826
Now you're resorting to a "they have to tweak though!" argument? This is just getting sad.

>>5312839
>posts outdated emulation screenshot
thanks for proving my point about how far emulation has come

>>5312860
>thanks for proving my point about how far emulation has come

In the past few months, dude or 17 years if you look at the rest of the emulation community. N64 emu defenders are like public defenders saying how their client, who has been a fuck-off his entire life, was "turning his life around" because he checked out a book at the library.

>>5312874
>tries to make cool analogy
Ok, come back when you can name a n64 game we can't emulate. You already tried and I immediately replied with a youtube video proving you completely wrong. BTFO

>>5312881
>You already tried and I immediately replied with a youtube video proving you completely wrong. BTFO
I looked at the video and it's not looking like it did on a real N64, you backed yourself the fuck out. It's a nice PC version, don't get me wrong, but it's not true.

>>5312891
No one cares about it being 100% "true" except a person with psychosis. If it were true, it would play at a horrible framerate and an average kid playing it for the first time today would stop after a few minutes.

>>5312907
>No one cares about it being 100% "true"
LOL

You can stop now. You lose.

>>5312907
>If it were true, it would play at a horrible framerate and an average kid playing it for the first time today would stop after a few minutes.
Keep being an average kid. I prefer the real thing.

>>5312916
>>5312909
>janky framerates are SOUL. i PREFER it

>>5312925
^Pure uncut autism.

>>5312931
>Pure uncut autism
I think it has something to do with the full moon. The zoomers are inconsolable tonight. It would be best if we ignored them. They hate that worse than being proven wrong.

>that awkward moment when everyone realizes in 2019 the entire n64 library is in fact emulatable with 99% accuracy, and it's actually better than the real thing due to improvements

>>5312796
Does Mystical Ninja work? It plays like molasses on everything.

>That awkward moment when the zoomer emulation hipsters realize that the OP was specific in that PC emulation was not something desired.

>>5311965
>PC isnt an option

the same fucking threads
over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

It's time to stop coming here

>>5311965
Get the real hardware but then get an Everdrive 64 and use that to play all ROMs.

>>5312025
don't do this

>>5313491

You won't be missed.

>>5312423
Play anything that isn't Super Mario 64 and you'll quickly learn the emulator devs played favorites and haven't made much of an effort to make anything else work well.

>>5313693
nobody will be, it's fucking anonymous you mongoloid

>>5314416

Keep crying faggot. Just leave the board forever.

>>5313915
Priorities.

>>5311965
Consider investing in an education so you can get a job that pays well enough to afford old second hand toys. In the meantime consider getting into old PC gaming. Sounds like you have the kind of old machine other kiddos here pay hundreds for on eBay.

does your computer really not run project 64? I used to run that shit 15 years ago on a laptop. Other than that you should consider a wii for its VC emualation, but nothing beats a real n64 + everdrive. If you're planning on playing n64 games for years to come it's definitely worth it.

>>5311965
>>5311965
Depends. Because of how fucked the controls were on the original N64, emulating it will be a chore, and you'll constantly have to be changing your input settings because of how retarded Nintendo was when designing their controller.

>>5312881
Waialae Country Club: True Golf Classics with 0 sound errors

>>5317247
A small glitch in a mediocre game hardly counts. What audio plugins have you tried, anyways? Probably none.

>>5317260
>mediocre
ok newfag