/vr/ - Retro Games

not really secrets, but there's a couple gold skulltulas that nobody would be able to find without a guide.
Notably, one in Dodongo's cavern that's only reachable from that staircase you need to blow up- however, you can only get to it if you haven't blown up the staircase.

>>5288752
Isn't there also one in there that you need to be adult link for?

>>5288760
yeah, but it's a scarecrow one. so navi will tell you need a song to reach it.
Plus you can see the skulltula from the ground.

>>5288661
The real secret is how anyone can still play such an agonizingly dull game. Seriously each episode following the boy "adventurer" and his pals from Hyrule as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the cartoonish imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of repetitive puzzles, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Nintendo vetoed the idea of a third party producing the games; Miyanoto made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody- just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their annual "party games" and childish fighting franchise. The Zelda series might be anti-Sony (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Spyro series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to

>a-at least the platforming elements were good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the exploration was nonexistent. As I played, I noticed that every time Link went to "explore" a largely empty world, Nintendo shoehorned in some repetitive puzzles to pad out the game. I began marking on the back of a Nintendo Power magazine every time I came to the same rehashed box pushing/lever pulling puzzles. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Nintendo's team is so governed by cliches and milking tired franchises ad nauseum that they have no other style of development. Later I watched a lavish, loving Let's Play of The Ocarina of Time by some YouTube manchild. He said something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Ocarina of Time at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to owning a Nintendo Switch." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play The Ocarina of Time you are, in fact, trained to play the same dull Nintendo rehashes decade after decade.

>>5288786
DAE le good game bad? Thanks for writing two paragraphs while saying nothing about the game. Nice blog post about watching manchildren let's plays though.

>>5288786

I guess you have to consider the time when OoT was made to appreciate what it brought to the table.

>>5288810
But all the OoT sequels do pretty much suck (MM was ok though).

Majora's Mask
Wind Waker
Twlight Princess
Skyward Sword

Four sequels to OoT and they all rehash the same ideas.

I haven't played BOTW but I highly doubt it is as good as it is claimed to be.

>>5288786
This is my favorite /vr/ pasta

>>5288786
>comparing Zelda to Spyro in any capacity, form or manner implying the Spyro franchise is worthwhile at all

your retardation. it's not your fault.

>>5288785
Reminds me of the bottle salesman in LttP

>>5288837
Don't worry about it too much, it's just an edited copypasta about Harry Potter.

>People are still, S T I L L replying to the "No!" copypasta

It's gift that keeps on giving

>>5288894
Im glad anon posts it in every oot thread. How much more can you discuss about the fucking thing? There is always at least three oot threads on /vr/ at any given time, what the fuck? I dont hate the game, but ive started to loathe it along with all the dipshit nintoddler fanatics. They are infinitely worse than the sega fags at this point. There needs to be a nintendo board for these retards. That doesnt mean all nintendo related discussion should be forced there, but any popular zelda, mario, smash shit etc... Should be on a nintendo containment board. It would probably help /v/ out too.

>>5288661
You can use ice arrows to freeze bongo bongo's hands.

>>5288913

>oot gets so blindly praised that starts to lose its charm

Truly the Dark Souls of the n64.

>>5288913
>How much more can you discuss about [thing]?
This is /vr/. If you get upset about people posting OR shitposting about anything you are just not doing it right

>>5288786

>>5288815
>I haven't played BOTW but I highly doubt it is as good as it is claimed to be.
It's not but it's far better than any Aonuma trash between it and OoT.

You can Hookshot to the nipples of the Spirit Temple statue.

>>5288661
>>stealing fisherman's hat
Now you're just making shit up.

>>5289252
It's real

You can take off the fisherman's hat with your fishing rod, and you can even cast it out in the pond. The fisherman gives you all this dialogue about it. If the hat becomes unhooked and sinks to the bottom of the pond, you have to pay 50 Rupees.

>>5289252
>>5289279
This is something referenced in the Akira Himekawa manga, but I'm not sure if it's actually in the game.

>>5289252
>>5289279
>>5289387

https://youtu.be/r_Wyg9WU_E4

Skip to 2:30

>>5288752

Must be why I could never get them all.

>>5288786
"Deh!"

>>5289493
if you look at the map, it'll mark if you have all the skulltulas in a single location.

>>5288810
DESU LTTP was better desune senpai~

>>5288661
Pointy boobs hurt.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3vr3frVrDQ

When Ganon knocks the Master Sword out of your hand, you can quit/save the game and do some goofy stuff.

Remote control Epona was my favorite....or maybe hook shotting into nothingness. I believe they fixed this in the green blood versions.

Above the gate leading to hyrule castle, you can check the statue and it will tell you the time.

>>5289245
noice

>>5289245
I think this was removed in some versions.

>>5288661
Iron Knuckles are mind controlled Female Gerudo soldiers

>>5288978
This isnt just shitposting, idiot. This is insanity.

Not really a secret, but I'm pretty sure the guy on the roof in Kakariko has a different dialog if you manage to backflip onto the roof from the tower and talk to him as child Link.

>>5288661
You can beat the marathon runner by using time travel.

>>5288786
Based and redpilled, opened the thread to make sure this was posted

>>5288824
It’s sloppy thirds, started on /lit/ and then /tv/ with Harry Potter

>>5290893
it's true about harry potter though

>>5288913
this is the part where you realize you can't have a video game board without /v/, even if you made it on another site 10 years from now it will have /v/
people are mostly not that creative
if 4chan really used to be more creative then it was a fluke, most likely from a strange place attracting strange people, and as time goes on it's less of a strange place and it sure as fuck attracts all kinds of people

>>5290925
>implying it's not also true about zelda

I just found out that if the skulltulas see you and you stop moving they won't charge you.

>>5290925
It's true about OoT as well

>>5288913
If you have mental disabilities you can try using the site's built in filters to hide threads for you automatically. That way you won't be tempted to deliberately enter a thread you dislike and post in it.

>>5288815
Majora's Mask isn't at all a rehash of OoT. It and Link's Awakening have a case for being the furthest removed Zeldas out there.

>>5288661
>play Sun's Song between the 2 pillars at Lake Hylia and a large fairy will appear after seeing a spiraling sparkly like a chest is appearing
what?

>>5291327
We've theorized that it was supposed to be in the Meadows, where you fight two wolves. It would mark the secret grotto found there. I think there was a Heart Piece there.

It was moved to lake hylia later.

It's not present in the remake.

>>5291380
Oh, I think I got what you're talking about... you're talking about that big round fairies...

Hm... I think we'd get a Heart Piece by solving this puzzle, but they changed it later to the fire arrows.

>>5291384
your headcannon isnt fact

>>5291418
>We've THEORIZED that...

>>5291420
>we've
dont pretend that everyone agrees with your made up shit

>>5291327
forest temple tree

>>5288661
If you take the game cart out of the n64 the game will stop

>>5291448
You weren't in the other threads.

>>5291448
>>5291418
Must you waste posts just for attention?

>>5291541
you're the one who pretending your headcanon is real and spamming it anytime somebody posts that image

>>5293506
>pretending your headcanon
The irony being that I'm not even the person you're replying to.

>>5291448

>>5293527
I like your image.

>>5291483
That's a good one...

The first room of the temple has two trees, so maybe it was supposed to be there. If I remember correctly we'd also fight wolves in the first room.

>>5289493
You can get it with boomerang later, or hookshot as an adult.

>>5293532
I'm saving this image too.

>>5288752
It's well known that the game was supposed to only have adult Link. Then Miyamoto asked to change that because he wanted a child Link.

There're beta images of adult Link wandering inside the Dodongo's cavern... so, Link was supposed to go there as an adult.

Dodongo's cavern used to be the Turtle Rock from ALttP.

Another changed stuff is that young Link was supposed to enter the Gerudo fortress as a kid, that's why bow and arrow only knock the Gerudos.

>>5288661
I've never been able to get the butterfly trick to work.

>>5293665
It takes a lot o tries. But you need to stand still and let it touch the stick by itself. You can't hit it.

>>5291338
It's got some interesting ideas but it reuses a lot of assets from OoT, it's also much shorter.

>>5288913
Chrono triggerniggers are worse

the spooky masks glows at night

>>5288824
Is it? I mean if you didn't know it was a pasta you could totally agree with him.

The little girl in castle town market who chases the cucco is programmed to always stop running when you put on a mask.

Not a secret really but the desert colossus area has ambient sounds during night time exclusive to it

>>5291338
>>5293705
Something I find interesting about majora's mask is that there are a lot of unique assets in various parts of the game.
The lost woods at the beginning and the deku shrine really stand out in particular as being totally unique visually while also being very brief locations a player will likely never see more than once.

Are there any good model rips out there of the npcs? The castle town citizens in particular, since you cant see them very well in-game

>>5293705
It reuses assets but its an entirely different type of game. I will also say that while there are less dungeons they are bigger and a good deal more complex than the ones in OOT.

Frankly I wish Nintendo was more willing to do that on occasion. It allowed an entirely new game that many people consider good or better than the first to be created in about a year. Not saying they should do that all the time or even often but on occasion it could result in some good games.

I guess now they just call it DLC

>>5288785
There is also a model of what might be Malon's mom buried in the data.

>>5293936
A lot of people shit on majora's mask for reusing assets, but doing so is a big part of its atmosphere. Termina is presented as a weird alternate world, people look the same but aren't the same, certain factions in termina had analogues in OOT's hyrule. It's all kind of like a dream where familiar faces are being used by unfamiliar personalities. Really sets the tone for the game on a whole.

>>5293947
Kind of funny how majora's mask's postman ended up becoming the design template for postmen in the franchise going forward in-spite of the fact he was just reused from oot's running man.

the secret pyramid int he wasteland. can only been seen during lightning storms or going out of the map

>>5293686
I remember reading in a magazine back in the days that you actually have to hit them, and nothing happened so I was pretty upset. I guess they fucked up the translation.

I'm just now realizing Navi speaks English in the Japanese version despite them recording Japanese lines before release.
https://youtu.be/geZwESmBGX0
That's kind of strange.

>>5294290
that beta trailer music is comfy as fuck

>>5294272
you can't also let link neter in the idle animation, sou you need to walk really slowly, the butterfly will start to follow Link.

>>5294043
It's a broker polygon from the scenery. It's not a pyramid.

>>5294043
That’s retarded

>>5288752
Nah, you can get in there after blowing up the stairs. I always have.

every girl (and sheik) in oot is voiced by the same person

>>5295032
Except Navi.

>>5291380
>>5291387
>you're talking about that big round fairies
Yes. But weirdly there's also a sparkly animation like when a chest appears, just instead of a chest it's a big round fairy.

>>5295164
big round fairy chest

>>5293865
really, who other than the developers would ever spend more than ten minutes here?
It's actually pretty damn cool they put as much effort into the visuals that they did

>>5295273
wow, it really is impressive what they managed in 1 year. imagined if they had 2 years..

>>5295273
I think they repurposed a lot of assets, this game was supposed to be bigger. I guess.

You can put a bomb next to a gossip Stone and aftet it explodes, the stone takes off like a rocket and will explode if it hits a ceiling or something
Never knew why though...

>>5295273
where the fuck was this?

>>5296282
End of the deku buter race.

>>5296014
Because it's funny and the n64 zelda games were kind of surreal

>>5296309
>>5296014
Actually I think the gossip stone's in general were made to fuel kids' imaginations. Other than the obvious gossip aspect, the stuff you can do to them with bombs, the hammer, etc makes for good "playground talk"

>>5288661
If you don't play it, you're ahead of the game.

What do poe souls taste like?

>>5291418

Reading Comprehension is a thing, people know what theorizing means. You don't need to bring your crappy attitude here.

People always talk about the anti-muslim stuff removed in V1 but nobody ever focuses on the anti-semetic "kike" voiceline that they removed.
https://my.mixtape.moe/lbkotp.mp4

>>5288661
Crouchstabbing, which isn't actually a glitch at all as some websites erroneously labeled it as.

When sneaking into the fortress you can knock the Gerudo guards unconscious by riding Epona into them without being spotted

>>5291035
This, fucking fags bitch all day and don't know the simples shit about this site

There are fairies that only refill your magic meter. I think in the first room of the Gerudo Training Grounds you can play Song of Storms to spawn one. I don't think you can bottle them though.

>>5291486
underrated

>>5293705
If anything the reused assets make termina that much more uneasy and surreal

the gerudo who speaks with you after you free all the carperters wears clothes that change depending on which tunic you're wearing.

You can make Link smoke a blunt by performing Ocarina Items in front of a torch using a stick.

>>5288976
>Truly the Dark Souls of the n64.
kek

>>5288661
If you annoy the giant rolling Goron enough he says something different that most people have never seen. The one inside the Goron village. Also, there's a secret with the marathon runner that only Japanese players have unlocked, and Nintendo as per usual is silent on the procedure.

>>5299457
Never heard that one before.

>>5288661
>turning butterflies into fairies with your Deku stick

I miss /Lozg/

>>5295273
It's the same way with the ikana graves.
Lots of textures with mural paintings

Pamela's dad in majoras mask actually has hit animations if you use arrows on him

>>5296402
bags of sand

It's easy to overlook because of how late and briefly she is in the game, but Nabooru does have different lines for masks

most people probably know this, but you can play flat and sharp notes on the ocarina with R and Z, and you can add vibrato by moving the control stick left or right. It's missable because there is never any reason to do it in-game.

>>5299778
trying this tomorrow

Little known secret but oot is just a 3d version of alttp

>>5301403
Isn't it obvious? For some reason I can never get into A Link to the Past, but they're not exactly the same, but yeah.

>>5293586
You can still go to the cavern as adult link.

In alttp when forging the master sword at the blacksmith, they will get mad at you if you use your hammer on the sword too

>>5288815
Nostalgafag alert

>>5299457
oh is that why navi turns green on a random spot between two columns?

>>5301853
yes

it's a fairy or the scarecrow.

>>5299891
>there's a secret with the marathon runner that only Japanese players have unlocked
source please?

>>5301853
There's one in Ice cavern, but that one is for helping to dogde the scytles. They're not present in Shadow Temple though.

>>5301457
You can, but there's absolutely no reason to.

>>5301870
Gold skulltulas

>>5297961
How so? Doesn't it take the attack value of your previous attack?

>>5301025
>Tfw a friend made the Scarecrow's Song based off of The Simpsons theme

Link doesnt have any underwear under his dress

>>5288661
>Zelda Ocarina
Zelda's a Hylean, you twat

>>5301982
Okay, fine. There's no GOOD reason to. Getting 100% Gold Skulltulas is a bullshit task anyway.

>>5302084
It's like you don't want an excuse to retread one of the comfiest game worlds of all time.

>>5302690
I agree that it's very comfy and I loved exploring it, but the gold skulltulas are still bullshit. Fun if you find them as they come up, but searching for all of them is a boring chore.

>>5302705
>>5302690
Wouldn't the Stone of Agony help, or are they just that well hidden? I never liked rumble so I don't really know.

>>5302716
Some of them are in holes that you can't find without the stone of agony. It's a huge pain in the ass on a randomizer. I can only ever remember a few of them

>>5288661
Where is link in that pic? I don't remember that part

>>5303703
That's the end of the Spirit Temple.

>>5299891
>>5301856
just challenge him, go back in time, go to the finish line, and wait 7 days in game to finish at -00:01

in typical zelda fashion the only thing you get is fucking rupees

>>5303779
>go back in time
You're already a kid during the race.
>go to the finish line, and wait 7 days in game
The finish line is on the bridge inside Kokiri Forest and time doesn't pass there.

Stop being That Kid.

>>5301025
I knew you could press the stick up or down to pitch bend, but not about the other parts, and I know I tried them so it must be a subtle effect

forest temple is literally just some rich fuck's mansion

>>5304672
it used to be a castle

>>5305784
it's only a model..

You can jump behind the lava waterfalls in the Lizalfos mini boss fight during Dodongo's Cavern for secret heart pickups.

>>5305081
Temple = jewish
It all makes sense now

>>5290775
It's not just any random Gerudo warrior, it's Nabooru. She's forced to fight you to the death.

The game never really lingers on the ghostly elements of all the sages in the adult timeline.

>Saria is never found til the end of the temple
>Darunia goes to 1v1 a dragon by himself while you find the hammer
>Ruto leads you down a hallway by going ahead of you and mysteriously vanishes at a dead end
>Impa also does what Darunia does. The Shadow temple seems to actually lead into some sort of Hades-esque death world where you cross a river on a magic undead boat
>Nabooru gets kidnapped by witches and then turned into an axe Knight to fight you
>During the ending they all party with you and then turn into mystic light orbs

>>5305891
unf Nabooru teach me how to be a man

>>5305891
There were multiple Iron Knuckles, they all can't be her

>>5290937
>then it was a fluke
It was just a different time. Used to be, on the internet, you made your own fun more than half the time.

>>5291486
If you very gently pull up the left edge while standing right in front of the kokiri who keeps you from leaving the village w/o a sword, Link will glitch inside him, and Link can escape into the door, and start playing the rest of the game w/o a sword.

>>5288815
>I haven't played BOTW but I highly doubt it is as good as it is claimed to be
Honestly imo outside of the "dungeons" it's the best Zelda ever made

>>5306228
This is true, but I still like his theory. I wish Nintendo wasn't so afraid to go to dark places with Zelda these days. I mean in a good way like OoT and MM, of course, not cringy edgelord shit like TP.

If you walk around the way around Lake Hylia, there's a set of gossip stones at the far end of the lake.

Pretty neat, didn't even know about them until I tried MQ3D

>>5306827
Darkness in OOT and MM

>bright and colorful world has hidden dark areas and hints of bloody events in the past.

Darkness in TP

>Make everything dark and ugly.

>>5307063
Frustratingly accurate. What the hell happened? Did they lose their good writers and world designers after the N64 or what?

>>5307063
Oot and mm honestly had really good art directions in my opinion.
Majora's mask especially. It had really good color usage in a lot of areas.

>>5307154
Nintendo tried to take the easy way out of n64 zelda's blend of realism and surrealism by making wind waker a cartoon. By the time they tried to go back for twilight princess, they forgot what made the n64 games so great artistically

>>5307154
I think a lot of the art came from the limitations they had to work with. Also felt like more plot and lore was conveyed in the background and -most importantly- briefly.

>>5306684
You know, it only just occured to me that you can unequip the sword anytime after that point. I’m surprised swordless runs aren’t more of a thing in oot, even if you technically have it in your inventory and still need to use the master sword for the final hit on ganon. Whenever I replay next I’ll try this out.

>>5307254
That's true. It's gotten too easy for DeVos on general to make cut scenes. So naturally they go overboard

>>5307267
*devs in general

>>5307157
Something I've noticed about majora's mask on a whole is the frequently recurring color scheme of neons and purple and green in certain cutscenes and locations both obviously tie into the titular mask's color scheme.

>>5307154
I heard they were trying to make TP with a western audience in mind.

There was also a lot of backlash from WW art style and they let the pendulum swing way to far in the other direction.

You can find the triforce as an obtainable item

>>5293937
Post it.

>>5297916
Where did this play?

>>5305891
>Hades-esque death world where you cross a river on a magic undead boat
I think it was acually the remains of the Wind Temple. Just look at the next part with the Eagle statues... I think it was supposed to be the Kaepora Gaebora race... or the Rito. I really think that the Rito was supposed to be on OoT.

>>5307489

>>5308421

>>5308426
>99 under shield icon
Was OoT originally supposed to have shield stamina and breakable shields?

>>5308442
No Zelda 64 started out super primitive. Shield was a default item not equipment. The beta is really interesting because 3D was brand new and Nintendo had to figure everything out so they experimented and the beta stuff looks weird as hell.

>>5308458
So why does the shield icon have a 99 if it's not shield health?

>>5308442
Yes, that's clear, since you could buy shields from the stores and stuff.

I think they should've continued like that.

>>5308495
I think you're right, it was supposed to be broken. That would actually be good, since we'd spend some rupees. Also I think that the Master Sword wasn't meant to be the main weapon. You could use everything as a main weapon, that's why the happer has so many attack animations. They bring that back in BotW.

>>5308513
>>5308510
Buy the way, I also think that you could paint your clothes. The power to stand heat/freeze would come from the medallions. Maybe another passive power from the medallions was to see the illusions and float. But I think you'd use magic for that.

BotW bring all that stuff back, including the illusion/elusive Lost Woods theme, that's based on wind... probably where the Wind Temple used to be.

There's the hidden room in Ganondorfs tower with the businesses deku scrubs and fairies

>>5288661
I've never seen a game with so much heart put into it. All the lore, weird secrets, characters, and visuals was seriously mindblowing back in the day, and I've still never seen anything like it. It's a damn shame contrarians and zoomers crap all over it for being "popular" or whatever.

It's always curious that Fado, the blonde kokiri has a ton of unique dialogue in-spite of being a minor character.

>>5309257
Some speculate that she was going to be a sage in one of the scrapped temples.

>>5288661
why does a lullaby fix signs? that's stupid. I hope they updated that to the Song of Healing in Majora's Mask.

Wind waker fucking sucks

Something I learned well after the game's prime: on Volvagia's arena, you can climb the sides to avoid the falling rocks.

>>5307426
Nice meme

Something I adore about ocarina of time is that when you go into a temple, they're designed to make you want to speculate what they were before they became temples. Their original purposes are never spelled out to you, with the exception of the shadow temple.
Or remember all the theory crafting people have done over the years regarding kakariko's well and the man with the eye of truth.
Most post n64 games do not have that aspect. When I go through wind temple in wind waker. I think "this is the wind themed dungeon." I'm not wondering who built this and why, I'm not curious about the dungeon's aesthetics; any strange statues or designs. Everything feels so dry and meant to only be taken at face value There's nothing there to fuel your imagination.

Locations like Forest Temple and Stone Tower would never exist in a modern zelda. And if they did, all the mystery and intrigue would be ruined by exposition.

>>5308515
>BotW bring all that stuff back
I was thinking about how many cut features from OoT seemed to appear in BotW. I wonder if they went and looked at their older games beyond just Zelda 1 for ideas.

>>5309501
Wind Waker easily has the most character and the most fitting aesthetic of the entire series. Lots of the downsides were remedied in the HD remake

>>5309582
Not them, and it's true. It has something to do with bombing all the Mask Stones.

>>5309625
Shame it's also arguably the most boring one to play.
Not even memeing, I love the atmosphere and visual style of WW, but I find it hard to go back to because it's just so boring to actually play.

>>5309625
>most fitting aesthetic
You cant look at shadow temple and earth temple side by side and honestly say that wind waker has a better aesthetic.
Maybe the cartoony style works for the characters, but it sure as hell doesnt for dungeons

>>5309682
Even Skyward Sword is more fun to play than Wind Waker.

>>5309693
The Earth and Wind Temples don't look so great, but I like the Cavern, Forest, and Tower.

I think Ocarina's low-poly graphics are really good for spookiness and atmosphere.

>>5309737
Tower of the gods was the only dungeon aesthetic in ww I liked. Of course, it draws heavily from real world ancient Mediterranean cultures.
Drago roost cavern and and forbidden woods were too standard fiery cave and forest to be interesting.

>>5309765
I liked the woods mostly for the occasional ruins of kokiri forest you’d find. Also cause of the whole thing basically being a massive pitcher plant, a lot of the moving parts felt like both parts of a massive plant’s body and like parts of a natural ecosystem and I dug that balance.

Agree tower of the gods was probably the coolest dungeon though. Also agree with the other anon that WW’s dungeons mostly don’t make you wonder about the world. Though I guess earth temple was meant to be a massive crypt, I don’t know what if anything wind temple was meant to be.

>>5309625
>>5309728
>>5309765

The only problem I have with windwaker is that its far too easy. The game never really challenges you. I hear the remaster has a hard mode so maybe they fixed that.

I also really wish they could have made their original idea of having the characters age over time work. That would have been great and would have fit the story better.

>>5310018
>I hear the remaster has a hard mode so maybe they fixed that.
It really doesn't. Enemies do double damage, which sounds hard, but what it actually means is that enemies will now deal half a heart of damage rather than a quarter.
And bosses are still insultingly easy; it's boarderline impossible for them to hit you in the first place.
No recovery hearts appearing merely means now you have a reason for potions for the first time ever in the series

>>5310018
>>5310079
WW was my first and thus far only go at a 3 heart challenge run in Zelda. Made me fall in love with the game again, felt like a kid playing it.

Do that on the new hard mode where no hearts appear and you’d be set for a decent challenge. I played on the gc version and even there I had to get creative and experiment with enemy-weapon weaknesses that I’d never had to before. Boomerang actually felt as useful as it did in Zelda 1 sometimes.

Shame that 1 and oot are the only ones to get a proper second quest.

>>5288661
It's possible to go out of bounds in Kakariku village behind the windmill. Once you do, you're stuck, but it can be done with a gold cartridge.

>>5310235
I don't understand

>>5310257
It bounced down the ribs, acting somewhat out of "item/object character", to coin a phrase.

why did this room have an endless room that looks like the void of space?

>>5310260
Why does the guy who runs the fishing pond suggest that there's another fishing hole? I bet there is one.

>>5309618
Yes... there're multiple colored clothes hidden in OoT code. It was supposed to be in OoT at some point.

>>5310260
I think it was supposed to be the remains of the Ice Dungeon, cut from the development in favor for the Water Temple.

It's just like the Bottom of the Well, that I beleive was supposed to be the Shadow Temple... and then the Wind Temple was scraped in favor of the Forest Temple...

They endup re purposing the Wind Temple into the final version of the Shadow Temple, that's why we find the float boots there and there're a lot of wind traps.

>>5310391
I thought the wind and ice temples would have been in addition to the others, not that forest and water replaced them.

Though speaking of, ganon's tower does give some insight into the cut temples. I think the light section in particular has an interesting aesthetic

>>5310446
yes.

It's believed that half of the Spirit Temple was actually the Light Temple.

Geruro Traning Grounds used to have a map, implying there was a Chest with a compass/map there.

Notice that the first room has Lynels sculpited around the doors... and the theme of the area, which is very "earthy".

I'm a believer that it was supposed to be the Earth Temple. But it was scraped in the beginning of the development, and then they finished it by using unfinished rooms from the other dungeons.

>>5310260
I always saw it as a very special form of ice. Its crystalline and unbelievably clear

>>5310018
>>5310079
>>5310215
The problem with Hard Mode in WW is that the game isn't properly balanced around hearts not appearing, so it's a long time before you get a bottle to carry around potions and until then everything is such a slog because it's just a massive marathon of not being allowed to get hit. It sucks.

>>5288661
where exactly is this picture from? from a dungeon? what am i looking at? why is there a snake woman?

>>5309728
HAHAHAAHA, good one.

>>5310684
Spirit temple

What about the windmill? That place always gave me the blues. Even when you were a child, before you ruined that poor guys life.
What was up with that place? And the fact you could get up into that crawlspace behind the sails up top. Or that little spot of open area where that couple is dancing their lives away.
That spot always creeped me out/confused me.

anyone know what this is? or are they just talking about when you come back from the shadow temple

https://downloads.khinsider.com/?u=2011831

>>5310079
Yeah I thought that might be the case. Hard mode in LBW is similar but I thought it worked pretty well, it makes the game almost as hard as a Zelda game should be, though not quite.

Sounds like WW doesnt get quite as much mileage out of the mechanic.

A pity, windwaker is actually one of the best written Zeldas, but I just have not felt like replaying it lately because there is no challenge.

>>5310779
I dont know.
The guy on the roof has a few dialogue changes depending on how you speak to him ie reaching him with the hook shot or jumping down from the watch tower.
The cucco lady's lines change with the first few steps of the biggoron sword quest. Most other NPCs lines change with your progression of the well and shadow temple.
Humorously, one of the laughing guys mentions he sees you descend from the sky in the blue crystal (which would be after you beat the temple).

>>5310814
Difference is albw actually quadruples the damage, not doubles. Plus the 2d format in general makes you more vulnerable to enemy attacks.

You can use deku nuts to turn invisible poes, visible.
This does not work in the 3ds version for some reason.

>>5311007
Truth is I bought the game used and have never played it on normal mode. Even then I consider it a little easier than LTTP, but on the plus side its also less repetitive.

https://www.neoseeker.com/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time/faqs/162138-zelda-64-script.html

>>5310479
You might be right, I think the aesthetic style of spirit temple, probably wasnt recycled though. It seems too specific to the gerudo/Arab culture. And the style of the light section has a more regal feeling.
But some of the puzzles within the spirit temple do feel similar to the puzzles in the light section of ganon's tower.

>>5308442
You sure that's not a rupee symbol?

How about some obscure Link's Awakening secrets? I'm sure most people know this, but if you keep hitting a chicken long enough Marin will eventually go full psycho.

>>5311002
>Humorously, one of the laughing guys mentions he sees you descend from the sky in the blue crystal (which would be after you beat the temple).

This always led me to flying around with a chicken and Nayrus love trying to show the guy it was me. Never got anything out of it.

What a lot of people don't some to know, though, is that the same is true for breaking pots.

I wonder how many of you knew you could talk to these guys

There's some extra dialogue where she stays behind if you enter a dungeon. There's even a unique Marin sprite where she's sitting with a bored expression when you come out again.

Interestingly, if you enter the dungeon with full hearts and come back out again with one heart or less (beeping sound) she says something differently.

>>5311093
>>5311097
>>5311119
What the fuck. I had no idea about this.

Here's one that I've absolutely never seen mentioned or seen in a video, even in Marin dialogue compilations. If you go into the first dungeon, wait a while (let the music loop once, and I mean _completely_ loop - there's an additional piece of song at the end of the second theme repeat), then come out again, she has a third bit of dialogue to say.

>>5311126
You learn something new every day. Did you know you can sprinkle magic powder over this skeleton in Yarna desert and he'll give you a hint about the Piece of Heart in the cave?

>>5311135
No, I didn't. This is fucking nuts. Can you write down the dialogue Marin says when you come out of the dungeon and stuff? The only thing I really know about Marin is she sucks at the trendy crane game

>>5311140
M8, I've done a 100% dialogue run before and I took snapshots of them all to verify. Feast your eyes!

>>5311162
I'm certain others will find this interesting too. How about that bored expression sprite?

I think the top floor of fire temple was supposed to apart of the temple proper, rather than being optional and only housing some skulltulas

there's one drop hole cavern in hyrule field that has temple walls instead of rock for no apparent reason

>>5311162
Speaking of which, I should ammend this post. There's a single piece of text in the text dump that reads:
>...You idiot!
>I told you this
>would happen...
>Eh?! What? I
>didn't say any-
>thing, really!

It's right in the middle of the other Marin dungeon text and it fits her speech pattern. It's the only piece of Marin text that I haven't been able to trigger, so I assume it's unused.

>>5311163
I only took snapshots of dialogue, and it happens inbetween text boxes. I'll see if I have any save files around this time in the game lying around, give me a sec.

>>5311162
that's interesting

>>5311163
>>5311174
Kek, got it!

Continuing on, if you sprinkle the ghost's gravestone he'll start cursing you. Interestingly, it triggers no matter at what point in the game you do it, even if you haven't met him yet.

>>5311090
Yes, it's blue with a yellow triforce symbol on it. Looks just like Link's shield visible in the same screenshot.

>>5293947
If you think about it, basically every reused character is of the same idea but opposite nature.
>construction workers are construction workers still but are incredibly dutiful to the point of denying an oncoming crisis in order to keep working
>marathon runner still runs, but is now also ruled by work and routine rather than totally pointless jogging
>the Gerudo are still a tribe of thieves, but seafaring pirates rather than desert bandits
>the depressed-looking skinny guy is ultimately happy and come to terms with his misfortune, the one roadblock to his happiness being his inability to see the fruits of his labors (as opposed to not working at all)
>guards keep you in the town instead of out of the castle
>the witch sisters are still involved in witch things, but are quaint and harmless
>the forest is now a swamp, the volcano is now an icecapped mountain, the river/lake are now an open sea, the desert is now a canyon
etc.

For those of you for which this never triggered, there's a random chance Crazy Tracy will give you a discount if you buy the medicine.

>>5311210
You're just surprising the fuck out of me Anon, and I revisit this game every few years since it came out.

>>5311213
Just you wait until I get to OG/DX differences, there's a lot of stuff there that even tcrf hasn't covered yet.

These Link's Awakening secrets are blowing my fucking mind.

>>5311219
No way. You can get the attention of the walrus again? Keep em coming Anon

samefag, can you please stop?

>>5311220
Like I said, 100% dialogue run. Used a text dump, marked off every piece of text I came across, and then tried to infer what to do in the game to trigger the ones I didn't have yet. If you'd like some stuff from the first three Zelda games, I did those too.

>>5311171
Are you thinking of the fairy fountain?

>>5311239
Stick with Link's Awakening right now.

>>5311237
No.

>>5311250
This one I knew about. Bow wow was a neat companion

>>5311245
No, the first part is stone with some temple pillars but it turns into a normal rock cavern after that. I can never remember where though.

>>5311301
I cannot see where. Maybe somewhere other than Hyrule Field? What you're describing sounds suspiciously like the Hylian Shield gravestone cave that goes crypt->cave->fairy fountain, but I'm at a loss otherwise.

>>5311328
can't find it on vgmaps either but this isn't some memory from when I was a kid, I played through and noticed this a few years ago.

enjoy this sweet isometric illustration

>>5311239
I've done a similar thing with FF8 and there's an absolute ton of dialogue in that game that's totally optional to see and can only be seen at specific parts of the game

>>5311361
not that anon... but it's strange, I've beat this game, like 20 times and I've never seen that.

Is it on Hyrule field?

>>5311361
You sure you aren't thinking of Majora's Mask instead? It might be there.

>>5307063
old good new bad baaah baaaah baaaah

>>5311552
>2006 is new

>>5311554
>time between ALttP and TP: 15 years
>time between TP and now: 13 years
Some reminders are too harsh for this world.

>>5311405
never played majora's mask

>>5311552
Hey I say that having played through all three games multiple times.

TP has some things going for it, the dungeons are far more difficult than OOT but the atmosphere is not one of them.

>>5311361
Yeah, that seems vaguely familiar, but looking at every resource for hidden grotto locations and maps, I can't find anything similar.
Perhaps you were playing the 3ds or master quest version and those are different somehow?

>>5311772
nah, it was N64 v1. I wonder if this was actually specific to version 1.

>>5311779
Maybe. Your best bet would be replaying the game or finding a website that's just straight up ripped every model, texture and room architecture and see if you can find it

>>5311250
I have played through Links Awakening at least a half dozen times and every single screenshot you posted surprised me.

>>5311842
To be fair, it took almost a dozen playthroughs before I really started sinking my teeth into this game.
BTW I think I'll save the DX-related stuff for the next thread since I'm pretty sure I clogged this one up too much already.

>>5311864
Post it or start a new thread. This is awesome. I'v been meaning to play through it in Japanese and will be on the lookout for weird dialogue changes in all these easter eggs.

>>5311870
Come on anon, don't do this to me. I was about to head to bed any minute now.

>>5311880
I expected bigger changes than that to be honest

>>5311883
Which is why it's just a sample. Maybe I'll start a new thread tomorrow. Good luck!

>>5293936
I'd say roughly the same thing about OoA/OoS. They also reuse a lot of assets from LA, but are still entirely different games of their own.
Having assets ready and saving a lot of time, then opening up to nifty ideas like time travel as a game mechanic rather than a plot point, is a really good thing.
Not all new games need brand new graphics and engines.
Especially for OoT and LA, which both often leave many people wanting 'More of the same'. For those I honestly believe it's even a proper selling point due to that.

>>5311102
Huh, that's news to me.

>>5311328
Fuckin saved

>>5311102
>>5312108
They look almost exactly like the dark world talking trees in LttP so that's one thing I found easily

>>5293860
thats really cool. that area seems like it had a lot of work put in it for a place you only really visit once or twice.

>>5310767
It kind of seems like the dev team really wanted to stuff as many interesting things into that village as possible. I always imagined the dancing couple just wanted a private area away from everyone else. The crawl-space served as a high place for the player to jump from while holding a chicken, letting them float onto the rooftops.

Does anyone here wonder what things zelda draws inspiration from?
Like, what sort of art or film, literature were the developers looking into during making oot or alttp or mm?

I can only think of a few examples that have been stated.
Link's awakening inspired by twin peaks.
Twilight princess has a lot of western (as in cowboy) movie cliches.
Wind waker has a knock off jaws theme for ocean combat.
Skyward sword's art style inspired by french impressionism.
Breath of the wild was inspired by ...skyrim..

>>5312749
I think the haunted wasteland and desert colossus are both pretty cool areas. I would not be surprised if some of the ideas and aspects of them were recycled into ikana in majora's mask.

Some kid told me that you can catch sheik if you swim after him in the cutscene after you beat the water temple.

>>5312910
All Zelda games were mainly inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto stepping into some "cave" once and thinking it's the coolest shit ever.

>>5313607
if you've never been in a cave, do it sometime, it's actually really special

>>5311328
I’ve seen a bunch of these 3D maps for oot posted around. Is there a database full of them somewhere? If so what’s it called? I dig these things.

>>5313920
Look up vgmaps. They have them for lots of games, although not all of them complete.

>>5313920
ootmap.com

These are nice, but not perfectly accurate. For some reason the creator never figured out that a lot of the odd blupee and red rupee chests often contain items like shields, but only if you do not have that item already. In any other case, they have the rupee.

>>5312910
I don’t know how direct the influence is but Zelda seems to have a certain amount in common with Ultima. Lots of things blend scifi and fantasy but the way these two do it strike a certain balance you don’t see often. They feel multigenre while still distinctly fantasy, and remind of of fantasy-adventure movies like star wars or indiana jones.

Is time travel even scifi? It usually is but if it’s only done magically then I guess it doesn’t count. But it’s not a thing you normally see in fantasy works.

Oot also reminds me A LOT of hobbit/lotr. The books much more so than the movies. I think it’s the tone and the pacing, like child time is the hobbit which sets things up and feels like a fairy tale adventure, then adulttime/lotr happens and the narrative shifts into an epic that’s a bit darker than what came before.

>>5313607
>>5313624
Caves are really nice, botw desperately needed some.

Botw does a really good job at capturing the feeling of hiking though, and I’m positive the team had to go on some hikes to capture the same feeling Miyamoto felt exploring as a kid. Botw borders on just being a hiking sim honestly, but it does a damn good job of it.

>>5311328
I love how the texture is rendered with nearest/point sampling. It really shows how low resolution the large walls' textures are.
Doesn't match the aesthetic of the game in play, but looks really nice as a map.

Stone Tower is visible from Goron Village in Majora's Mask.
In Majora's Mask 3D, it was removed.

>>5314906
Also, interestingly enough. In n64 majora's mask, from a romani ranch the player can see the clock tower, stone tower and woodfall.
In the 3ds version, you can only see stone tower in spite of the fact that woodfall and clock town are significantly closer

if you kill a skullkid you get a bigass orange rupee

>>5314924
And another thing, woodfall as visible from termina field changes between the versions.
In n64 it lies to the southwest for the south clock town gate. In 3ds it is directly south from the gate. Also the size changes, 3ds version of woodfall is roughly one third the size n64 woodfall as seen from termina field

>>5314939
It's too bad the same thing doesn't happen in Majora's Mask.

The real shocker is that Skull Kid in Majora's Mask is just some rando skull kid from the Lost Woods in Ocarina of Time who followed the Happy Mask Salesman, stole his mask and went to Termina.

>>5314960
He isn't though. Right at the end of the game he says link smells like thay fairy boy who taught him saria's song

That multi-head cyclops statue in the gerudo training grounds is hella creepy

>>5297916
I remember this, it got removed in later versions?

>>5309640
The only way you can get close to the Triforce in game is to glitch up the side of the hill near the castle. And even then it's only a stored cutscene

>>5315656
I don't think so. Merely jesting

>>5303779
Debunked

Fake and gay

>>5290573
Only in the gold cartridge version. They patched that in the first gray cartridge update.

>>5291338
Zelda II is easily the furthest removed Zelda.

>>5317938
>introduces towns
>introduces all popular Zelda characters
>introduces jumping in a Zelda game
>game smashed sales and critical records
>furthest removed Zelda game

>>5317930
There are grey 1.0 cartridges out there. I used to have one.

>>5317961
In the same breathe, if all zelda games going forward follow Zelda 2's introduced aspects, except keeping Zelda 1's gameplay, how can any of them be "far-removed"?

Forest Temple = Somebody's mansion. All the people became stalfos or ghosts due to the Lost Woods, and now nature is in the process of reclaiming it as evidenced by the plant and insect enemies.
Fire Temple = Prison that also housed the remains of Volvagia. Possibly a remnant of Hyrule's wars, which then became a place of worship by the Gorons.
Water Temple = Probably a cistern of some kind. Directly effects water levels within itself and Lake Hylia. Might also be a former Zora city, or at least place of worship.
Shadow Temple = Outright stated to be a product of Hyrule's brutal history. Very evidently a mass grave and torture center run by the Sheikah, probably under orders from the Royal Family.
Spirit Temple = Gerudo house of worship which as been commandeered by Nabooru and later Twinrova as a base of operations

>>5311880
New text is soulless

>>5301271
wtf lol

>>5317961
Don’t forget
>introduces magic meter
>introduces dungeons with multiple floors to navigate between
>introduces dungeon items that you only use once and are just glorified keys

>>5319941
>>introduces dungeon items that you only use once and are just glorified keys
Technically, the regular keys are unneeded. And can see how they're glorified keys, but which one is used only once?

>>5319950
*Besides the candle.

>>5319750
This is a great gist of these temples. I never really put it together like this.

>>5319950
Raft?

>>5319990
Ah yeah, thanks. Easy to forget that one, but it's still a cute moment in the game, but sure, glorified key. I can live with that. The one real thing I think Zelda II lacks (that someone could patch in) is a fishing pond. If it had a little peaceful fishing hole, with just a couple types of fish to catch and maybe a surprise or two, it would have been truly perfect. It's a great game, but it could have used a bit more soul. Ocarina got it right, but an 8-bit version would be super comfy.

>>5319998
you could play link's awakening then

>>5320004
I've never played any more than a few minutes of it, but most people say it's great.

>>5320009
I think it's solid, if overrated, myself. It's high up on the list of Zelda's, but I wouldn't rank it over stuff like ALTTP, OOT and MM.

>>5319750
I think of the fire temple more like the goron equivalent to Moria, and volvagia is some sort of malevolent spirit awoken by the goron's delving. Ganondorf revives volvagia and uses the temple as a prison during the events of the game.

>>5320014
The local video game store probably has a copy and maybe even a Super Game Boy I can use. Thanks for the info, anon.

>>5320037
I really like the idea of the Fire Temple being Hyrule's Alcatraz, though. Especially because Death Mountain is in such close proximity to Kakariko and The Well and Shadow Temple.

Speaking off, I never realized that Kakariko in OOT was just recently opened up to normal people by Impa. I always missed that line of dialogue.

>>5305816
Lol

Wpp7U-f5JD8

>>5320109
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpp7U-f5JD8

>waiting for the night to pass buy
>the skybox becomes day with the bluesky and everything
>but the timer is literally 1 second off from being considered day time so when you enter a town its still plays the night noises and its considered nighttime despite the world being rendered as daytime

always annoyed me as a kid and I still never bother to get the suns song

>>5320113
It's interesting how a lot of the dungeon music in oot is sound collage rather than more straightforward compositions.

>>5320113
How in the world did people find these samples? Did Koji Kondo reveal them himself?

>>5293860
That's a real good one. I actually feel like this is the first time I hear anything about it

>>5297916
Not OOT related but kind of similar: SM64 DS replaced the "So long gay Bowser" line

>>5307063
They still do the former with newer IPs like Splatoon

>>5308986
Ive spent more time digging into that stuff than I did for any other game in the series combined. I just don't like the way it plays as much as the 2D ones

>>5296402
Salty rupees and lon lon milk.

>>5302005
If it was a glitch it wouldn't have it's own fucking animation, even the 3DS version has it with an even more accurate to Zelda 2 animation. The crouchstab using the previous sword/sword-like attack value is the glitch.

>>5305891
>Darunia goes to 1v1 a dragon by himself while you find the hammer
The real mystery here was he unlocks the boss door and then the door gets locked again anyways.

>>5320719
Ah I see, it never occured to me that the animation itself could be considered a glitch.

What's the general consensus on Master Quest? I think it's a neat idea, but I never really felt like it was that much harder than normal oot.

>>5321603
The 3ds version is cool because they inverted the map like they did with TP on the wii. I can almost play this game with my eyes closed so it trips me up when a right turn is now a left. I don't know how many times I walked half way across the field before noticing I was headed the wrong way.

>>5289279
It's in game

>>5321710
Not them, but I recorded all the dialogue years ago from a direct capture. I got some dialogue that's either rare or unknown to most and will post it in my new Youtube page pretty soon.

>>5321603
I remember the puzzles being much, much harder. Figuring out how to progress is a real challenge sometimes.

Combat...you fight harder enemies earlier but the enemies are still a joke. If you know at all what you’re doing a stalfos is going to be a joke no matter how early you fight one. You have to use self imposed challenges for the combat to be tough, which is a real disappointment. I’d love a version of oot that had enemies who are challenging even when you know the right strategies.

Double damage makes no real difference, enemies do a full heart of damage instead of half, big whoop.

Reversing overworld adds some novelty but not filling it with enemies is such a missed opportunity.

Only played it once like a decade ago but this was all my impression from back then. Got stuck in spirit temple and then the gc memory card became corrupted so I never actually finished it. I should go back to it one day but I’ll probably try a 3 heart run of normal oot first.

Well I think the gc version didn’t reverse the overworld, that was new for the 3ds version. But not filling it with enemies is still a missed opportunity.

>>5321657
The 3DS version also doubled the damage output from enemies too.

The original Master Quest is the more "pure" and intended experience, but 3DS Master Quest is definitely a lot harder.

>>5321728
Aw, you beat me to it. I was making a dialogue compilation like I did the first 4 games, but I got lazy a quarter of the way in. Maybe I'll finish it up and then go on to MM, although I don't know how much I'll enjoy tearing through double the amount of text OoT has.

>>5321950
I was just talking about the fishing pond in case you're talking about the entire game. I ain't doing that.

>>5321728
>>5321950
https://www.neoseeker.com/the-legend-of-zelda-ocarina-of-time/faqs/162138-zelda-64-script.html

>>5321962
They don't have everything, I already saw that.

>>5321912

I played the 3DS version

I found that the health and monster placement increase the difficulty significantly, though still not to the level of the early 2D games I also agree they should have changed the monster distribution on the over world.

The puzzles are much harder though, probably the hardest I have encountered in a Zelda game.

>>5321960
That's actually nice to hear. I'll be sure to give everyone the full scoop when I'm done, although I'm fairly certain there's less obscure details simply because OoT is more well known and had more people digging into it. Regarding the fishing pond, I think the most interesting detail is if you catch and lose his hat, not only will he stay hatless from then on, but he won't even be wearing it during the credits sequence.

>>5321962
Simply at a glance I can tell it's not every piece of dialogue. He didn't include the alternate spiritual stone text when doing emerald->sapphire->ruby, nor any of Zelda's reactions to masks.

>>5321987
>That's actually nice to hear. I'll be sure to give everyone the full scoop when I'm done
Cool, man. >>5321987
>Regarding the fishing pond, I think the most interesting detail is if you catch and lose his hat, not only will he stay hatless from then on, but he won't even be wearing it during the credits sequence.
Yeah, they really saw things through back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpmDXijaTfc

>>5322057
Oh hey, that's actually really helpful. It also confirmed my suspicion that the running man would only show up after getting all three stones instead of just after Jabu-Jabu, rendering all encounters with Zelda wearing any post-Bunny Hood mask impossible.

>>5288661
Surprised no one posted this one yet. I just took that picture with the game paused on an old emulator running on XP. The real cartridges, the gold ones for sure, do contain the Arwings from StarFox, but you need a specific GameShark and codes for it to work.

>>5288661
Anyone else notice this? It's to the right of Link's bed (from our perspective).

>>5308458
it's actually a miracle that they made such a fantastic action rpg on their first try, with the invention of z targeting which is fucking genius.

>>5322168
They were apparently used to model volvagia’s flying animations

>>5322510
Just looks like bark texture to me

>>5321987
>He didn't include the alternate spiritual stone text when doing emerald->sapphire->ruby

I never knew this was a thing. Only non-glitch method is to leave dodongo’s after getting the bomb bag right?

>>5321976
Yeah. It’s been so long I can’t remember how many puzzles were even sensible, I know some like the cow in jabujabu weren’t exactly logical. But I can’t remember how many.

I remember in like 1999 logging onto my brothers save file and the triforce was colored gold like he had gotten it somehow, he had all the temples completed, It was a 1.0 Cart.

>thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMGzHTn5Aa4

Miyomoto said in 2011 theres still a huge well hidden secret nobody has ever found in OOT

>>5323196
older bothers are gods at video games. They knew all the secrets. My older bro helped me beat mario 64 and zelda since I was a scared pussy. God Bless you older bro Im sorry I am a dumbass idiot and accidentally erased your save file.

>>5323224
my older brother just broke our controllers

>>5323204
I imagine he wasn't too up to date on just how much people have torn this game apart. I'm still learning new things all the time though so I'm holding out.

>>5323204
In 2011, you say? Oh, you mean right after Ocarina of Time 3D came out? How convenient that he would reveal such a thing right when such a thing might boost sales of a new game that happens to be a remake of the game he's talking about... I'm sure it's unrelated, though.

>>5322510
Low-res wall textures seem to have the same effect clouds do.

>>5311093
I'm erect.

>>5294290
Does anyone know all the lines she has?
I can only make out いきだ よ with that audio quality and my gaijin ears.
Real curious why they never used them.

>>5324864
いっくよー to me

>>5294290
I wonder if those sound files are even still in the game.

>>5324972
No. They already found everything there was to find.
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_Ocarina_of_Time/Unused_Sound_Effects

>>5294290
>>5324864
0:18
Is that こち? (East)
If that's right that makes me wonder if Navi was supposed to give contextual advice via voice instead of just saying HEY and providing help via text.
That would be cool if she said directions enemies where in or something.

>>5326016
octorock at ten o clock

>>5326023

>>5326659
tektite to your right

>>5312910
>>5313983

Peter Pan inspired Link's look in NES Zelda, his shadow in Zelda 2 and a lot about OoT with the Kokiri where they introduced their Tinkerbell equivalent and the Kokiri don't age and leaving childhood is a major theme.

There's a lot of fantasy lightreimaginings of medieval history and religion. The Triforce is like the holy trinity, gerudos are like Islamic.

Breath of the Wild and early games are inspired by ancient astronaut theories because it's popular type of scifi for older generations. Super Mario Land was about it too even. Look up chariot of the gods and jomon pottery/ dogu statues.

Ganondorf was going to be a peaceful fisherman in MM outside Termina Field but they pussied out at the last minute

>>5327953
Post proof

>>5326819
I can't believe I never made any of those connections between LoZ and Peter Pan. Especially the Kokiri, when you mention it like that it seems so damn obvious.

>>5305891
Those aren't parachute pants, she just has huge legs.