/vr/ - Retro Games

>>5294316
ocarina of time and majora's mask are both mediocre

>>5294316
>he thinks having opinions that aren't all the same as the most popular ones means he has to confess them like sins

I feel bad for people with autism and other mental retardation like you.

This is just a reskinned "we trigger /vr/" thread.

I think most of the people here are fucking idiots. No offense but I'm better than you.

>dislike the state of gaming, constantly hoping something "new and good" comes out
>all new releases are garbage
>decide to look to the past
>used to dislike GnG (arcade ver) cause it had "artificial difficulty"
>decide to clear it
>literally best game ever made
>beautiful sprite work, elegant level design
>the difficulty is what makes it addictive
>doesn't get boring, infinite replayability
>no game looks or feels better
I was blind. But now I see.

>>5294370
I'm okay with this. It's probably accurate.

>>5294316
Go back to >>/b/

>>5294370

>insults subhumans like it should be done
>instantly backpedals with "no offense"

You're not better than anyone here, you pussy faggot zoomer.

>>5294394
SEETHE that was a joke by the way I do mean full offense. You're all shit.

I started gaming using an emulator in grade school, and spammed save-and-reload frequently to avoid any kind of damage. One day, the "reload save" button on my parents' keyboard broke. They weren't angry, but it was only then I realized the error of my ways. There are dozens of classic games I've still never beaten without save spamming, even if I've seen the ending.

I played Duke3D religiously but I could never finish Blood because it was way harder and maps were more confusing

>>5294316
Almost none of my old PS1 discs work because I was a retarded fucking child who wouldn't put discs back in their cases after I was done playing them. The only known survivor is Crash 2... maybe.
My PS2 collection doesn't look so hot either, and most of my Gamecube discs are straight-up missing. I didn't wise up until the Wii... but none of that is /vr/.
I also once dunked a disc in water in an attempt to get it working again, ruining the disc, however, that particular game was Bubsy 3D, so it was an unintentional service to humanity that I was too young and stupid to comprehend.

>>5294316
>Everyone has their right on their own opinion, but they should always respect other people's opinion and never treat their opinion as the only right one.
lmao how did you even find this place

>>5294375
>doesn't get boring, infinite replayability

Ohh autism

>>5294316
Back to /v/ with your shitty meme

>I think linear rpg's are more fun than open ended ones
>Class systems are boring and grindy
>DQ3 sucks (4&5 are great tho)
>FF8 is the best one
>Cannon Spike sucks and feels like an alpha test. People just like it because it's obscure and has anime on the cover
>Outtrigger sucks too
>I like newer retro inspired games like Shovel Knight and The Messenger a lot

>>5294316
I've beaten REmake 20+ times on hard and absolutely adore it. I've never played RE1 though.

>>5294823
RE1 feels kinda weird today. Back in the day it was the scariest shit possible. Or maybe I was just young. Either way, fuck those dogs. Fuck them to hell and back

>>5294316

I used to come here because I thought this would be a place where we could have interesting discussions about older games that you couldn't easily have on other forums. I know better now. For all it's bluster about having taste the /vr/ userbase overwhelmingly supports joke threads, meme threads, bait threads, meta threads, and a few limp attempts to "discuss" the same handful of popular titles you would see on any thread on Reddit or any other message board. More interesting and less exposed titles like "Star Cruiser" or "Atic Atac"might get name dropped in a recommendation thread if you are lucky, but on the whole we are much happier pretending to be outraged over Nintendo Power saying you can beat the piano in Big Boo's Haunt than we are discussing how overpowered the Outsiders' military planet defenses in 3D Starstrike 2 are. Most of this board is really only casually interested in retro games.

>>5294316
>shitty midi sequenced music is "god tier"
The only somewhat memorable track in the entire game is the Forest Temple and even that is kinda bad.

>>5294730

I would love to go back in time and punch myself in the face. All my rare ps1 games are scratched to fuck and the cases are all cracked. Could have made a few hundred off them.

>>5294730
I'm very sorry to hear that you owned Bubsy 3D.

The hate towards modern Konami is irrational.

>>5294316
Your bait is leaking anon. melee is objectively the best smash game. thanks for the chuckle tho.

my confession?
op is a fag

>>5295039
Name 5 good Konami games released in the past 10 years.

>>5295179
MGS V
MGR Revergance
Super Bomberman R
Silent Hill: Downpour
Yu Gi Oh Duel Links

Metroid should've never had a female protagonist. The novelty of the reveal wore off quickly, and it destroyed Metroid by turning it into wank fuel. Now people don't care about the series and just want porn of Zero Suit.

>>5294375
GnG games on general are pretty addicting, the PSP game is my favorite followed by the NES one.

>>5294964
Cracked cases can be replaced by music CD cases which you can buy online or just buy old CDs from the thrift store.

>>5294370
based retard

I don't even play videogames anymore. I only come here to insult you bunch of evolutionary dead-ends.

>>5294316
>To me, her paintings would be something Rembrandt would be jealous of.
I agree that he would almost certainly appreciate her (and many others) work but jealous? I don't think you realize how good of an understanding of art Rembrandt had. People today have far more tools and still do much less. Most forget the masters basically had mirrors outside of a model, and even those were considered witchery by the Church for a long time.

>>5294316
>Prefer Majora
Yes father
>Kirby is the best Nintendo franchise
No father
>Melee is best Smash
Yes father

>Melee is best smash
It can't be if the players only get good through glitching out a broken party game and calling it "advanced tech".

>>5295303
her being a chick isn't what ruined it, the zero suit did

>>5295303
>Metroid should've never revealed who is in the suit
ftfy

>>5295303
Sounds like you are really complaining about horny little assholes who feel the need to jerk it 24/7

>>5295291
all shit with the exception of bomberman, which was developed by nintendo/ex-hudson, not konami

>>5294317
Worse, they're forgettable as fuck.

I'ma boomer but barely spent my childhood playing videogames, and if I did I never finished them. I can't think of a single game that really left any permanent emotional attachment during my childhood.

All my memories are when I was a teenager and fell in love with the games that I had missed or never finished, long after their release.

>>5295314
>the NES one
thread-appropriate

>>5294817
>>Cannon Spike sucks and feels like an alpha test. People just like it because it's obscure and has anime on the cover

I enjoyed the game and don't regret the purchase (got it for maybe 20 bucks new back when the DC was still being sold in stores) but I would absolutely agree that it feels unfinished as fuck

>>5295314
>psp gng
yes it's nice, graphically very slick
>nes gng
i like the arcade versions more

>>5294750
>replayability is autism
huh? arcade games with tight mechanics that center around scoring, time attacks and 1cc clearing usually have great replayability, unlike modern games, rpgs and so forth, which are once and done.

>>5294956
Yeah, blame the split back in 2011 or whatever. They should have just increased thread capacity on v instead if splitting up vidya fans in three different ways

>>5295721
Pop culture makes this objectively wrong, dude

>>5295598
>>5295548
>>5295553
True true. But I weep for what became of Metroid. It deserved a better fandom than the 5 year olds who just want tits in tight spandex.

>>5296121
Fandoms are always terrible, the more family friendly a series is the more weird-ass porn it receives example: mario, pokemon, ponies

>>5294963
Every game before 2000 had shitty midi music don't flatter yourself

>>5296130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riaa6W46pCg

>>5296130
>>5296136

better version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AR2yvdXfpE

>>5294375
Alway very glad to see people overcome all the anti-skill shilling around and discover the fun of games in the purest sense of the word. It truly is a redpill scenario.

>>5295721
yeah like you forgot the part where link gets the master sword or the last boss. Learn what forgettable means, prude. Sorry you can't enjoy good video games

>>5296003
Skill-based games are considered autistic to a very large portion of gamers who are into
>modern games, rpgs and so forth

While I believe the pick-up-and-playability of /vr/ games give them a natural leg up over later games when being revisited, nostalgia undoubtedly plays a major factor in people loving a lot of them here.

Panzer Dragoon is okay, but fans just need to admit they like it for it's atmosphere, music, aesthetics, etc. over actual gameplay where it's fine but not outstanding.

Kirby is and always has been boring shit.

Sonic 3 is pretty cool, S&K was alright, Sonic 3&K is a longer pretty alright game.

Super Metroid sounds too muffled and really demonstrates how not to use the snes' sound chip.

Dark Savior is shit, who cares about it's recycled ACTUALLY IN PURGATORY TEH HOLE THYME plot when the game is a chore to play?

The snes' higher color pallet makes most of the games look muddied and ugly to me.

Bubsy is a passable game, not great but certainly not deserving of all it's meme hate.

I absolutely do not care for Crash, Tomb Raider, or Twisted Metal which is a big reason why I didn't get a PlayStation until late into it's lifespan.

I really believe we should allow at least handhelds released up to 2004 here. There's a ton of discussion to be had while keeping things technologically gimped enough for /vr/'s enjoyment, and while the PSP is pushing it there's no denying how much it relied on /vr/ remakes, ports, and it's homebrew/emulation scene during it's life.

>>5296164
Vidya skill is a waste of time, at least when I struggle at the gym I have the hope that someday I'm gonna look good and feel healthy, when I practice videogames there is nothing to look forward. No reward, no end game. Just a short term release of serotonin and very little to show for it.

>>5296178
Spending 30 minutes playing a hard game is the same as spending 30 minutes playing an easy one; the time was spent anyway, it wasn't productive. Some people have fun with hard games, nothing more, and challenging hobbies have been a thing since forever. No clue why you have a hard time understanding this.

>>5296193
That's casual talk.
We all know you're playing for 8 hours a day for world records less than 0.1% of the population gives a shit about.

>>5296153
>skill
You mean memorization, right? Because unless there's a human opponent involved the skill ceiling will always be very low for you.

>>5296195
No I don't? I never play more than 2 hours at any given day and it's on average less than 1. And that other guy only mentioned he cleared GnG. Why are you making up shit?

>>5296197
Memorization and execution is fun to people, perhaps not to everyone but to enough people. Besides, the skill ceiling doesn't need to be super high, just high enough to engage the player with his own personal goals.

>>5296178
>Just a short term release of serotonin
Things the kind of illiterates who play JRPG's say.

>>5296205
I've 1ALL Ketsui in 1 credit, felt great for 15 minutes then right back to real life. Actually the more games you 1cc the less excited.

>>5296208
So just because you're not the biggest fan of this kind of game that entitles you to call others who do enjoy them autistic.
Really, no reason to shit on people for enjoying things you don't that don't harm you personally.

>>5296204
And there's nothing wrong with that, it's essentially the same as speed running with the ceiling being pushed by unending dedication to an almost unfathomable extent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wqBA5Q1yc

I DO have a problem when 1cc obsessed guys, especially from /shmup/, act all uppity about their preferred playing style/genres and go on about jarpigs/anti-skill bogeymen despite their own interests being on the lower rungs of the real skill ladder which frankly would put them well below modern (competitive) shooters. I've even seen some from that obsessive group try to hassle people for enjoying shmups but NOT playing for their personal bests or 1ccing it, it's pitiful and cancerous on an already very slow and underpopulated board. People from that lot just need to remember that 1ccing isn't skill based, it's repetition based, and the proof is in the save states.

>>5296259
What baffles me is how you think 1CC is this unreasonable or autistic when most clears are quite easy, and even if some are indeed quite hard you don't have to go for those games if you don't want to. You can't compare that to speedrunning, hell the original Super Mario Bros demands 1CC play from the player (it sends you back to the title screen when you run out of lives). You're thinking of WR-level scoring which can indeed be comparable to speedrunning in dedication and stuff, but this is not what's being discussed nor suggested at all, just mere simple clears.
Clears do require skill, the fact that you need some practice not only proves this, but doesn't dismiss the end result. Would be like saying that any activity that requires practice isn't skillful, that's just silly. Perhaps they don't require tremendous skill but it's enough for many to stay engaged, it's a game and leisure after all.

>>5294316
Doom 64 is the only good game in the series. Doom 1/2 on PC are ugly as fuck, have terrible level design and no atmosphere. Doom 3 and onward were just a joke. Doom 64 had the classic Doom gameplay but with better levels, better aesthetics, as well as new mechanics like traps and the upgradeable unmaker that added more depth to the gameplay.

>>5296259
>anti-skill bogeymen
>hassle people for enjoying shmups
Well, you seem to show up in every thread to shit on people who enjoy skill-based games for no reason. That GnG guy did none of that bad stuff you mention yet you insulted him. Indeed, hassling him for enjoying an arcade game.
Drop this stupid vendetta.

>>5296276
>What baffles me is how you think 1CC is this unreasonable or autistic
I think you got the wrong guy here, I'm not this dude >>5296195
Also practicing to increase your skill is fine, but simply memorizing stage layout, enemy spawn patterns, and boss behaviors isn't sharpening a skill, it's rote memorization and little more.
>>5296297
>every thread
Wasn't me, you lot seem to be a bit paranoid but then again you also blame everything on jarpigs so it's par for the course with you.
>skill based
There's that misused term again...

>>5296319
Memorization is the first step, you don't just memorize, you also practice to improve your execution. As in, once you've memorized you have to put that into action, and that's where the true skill comes (though figuring out some patterns in the first place can also prove challenging). Have you played any remotely challenging game in your life?
I guess that by you he meant in plural, as in you guys who are against this kind of stuff.

>>5294828

The dogs aren’t even a problem, the hunters having i-frames out the ass while attacking or recovering from getting hit were a much bigger problem in the original.

>>5296025
there's not enough fracturing. There should be /vr/, /v2k/,/v/, and /vnews/

half of /v/ is politics, ecelebs, and friend simulator crap. some of /vr/ wants to talk about the non-crappy part of early 3d gaming

Of course, i would trade it all if moot didn't fuck over the site by literally never having mods or janitors or 10 years

also bring back text boards hiro you faggot. they cost nothing and they were cool

>>5296342
>i-frames
i-frames?

>>5298010
invencibility period

>>5295303
I have seen you bitch about this in other threads already, why are you so invested in other people jrrking off?

>>5296213
Do you know where you are?

>>5294375
>>used to dislike GnG (arcade ver) cause it had "artificial difficulty"
>>decide to clear it
>>literally best game ever made
>>beautiful sprite work, elegant level design
>>the difficulty is what makes it addictive
>>doesn't get boring, infinite replayability
>>no game looks or feels better

according to the autists on here, it only counts if you 1CC the entire thing so you're doing it wrong anyway

>>5296276
>What baffles me is how you think 1CC is this unreasonable or autistic when most clears are quite easy,

list them. I can think of 6 at most that aren't Golden age high score type games like Donkey Kong

>>5294730
Are you me? I was so accustomed to ripping open GBC boxes that I felt jewel cases were disposable despite my parents protests. So many great games I lost because I was a faggot kid. I've repurchased a lot of the games I've had, but I would have other games if I didn't have to do that.
Other sins:
I think all JRPGs are shit
I unironically loved DK64
Zombies Ate My Neighbors and Rampage World Tour are the quintessential co-op games
Pokemon Red was released when I was ~6. I had no idea that Flash was a thing and spent hours trying to navigate Rock Cave via strategy guide. The only time I made it through, Gary whupped my ass and I never got to finish the game out of pure rage. Crystal still trumps all

>>5294394
btfo

>>5298762
1CC = clear

>>5298767
The shmups in my pic
Mega Man 2 The Power Fighters
Vampire Savior
Metal Slug 1
These are just some of the easiest I can think of, but the average is not that hard really, most will take you around a week on average if you play some attempts each day and are of average skill.

The less I need to talk about my favorite games and the more I get to enjoy them in peace, the better it is because that way /v/ and /vr/ don't ruin them for me with shitty opinions.

bottom line: I don't give a fuck about any of your gay little opinions. I just enjoy games.

>>5294817
Agreed on most of this, I like Cannon Spike and Outtrigger though. Especially agreed on Shovel Knight, it's very fun and you can tell that the developers had a very good understanding of what made Rockman fun.

>>5296178
>Just a short term release of serotonin

Yeah but you can say that shit about literally anything pleasurable. Hit the weights, hit the games. Get good at both. It's doable. You might have to give up tv but whoopdeedo.

>>5296195
As if most of the population not caring matters, you insufferable fucking pleb. Ability to act on your memory of a game's layouts is an extension of skill. But I imagine you're one of those types who believes that only multiplayer games can require skill, so I'm almost certainly wasting my time.

>>5294316
I use cheats in games regularly. Mainly because I am tired of doing certain tasks in games and want to progress without going completely insane.

Smash Bros was always a fighting game for little kids, playing it as an adult is as disgusting as still playing pokemon at age 20.

I hate 90% of all platformers.
I hate the Mario and Zelda series.
Back in the day, Sega was cooler than Nintendo.
I like all the genres that /vr/ hates like light novels, shoot them ups, point and click adventure, and JRPGs.
JRGs are better than most western RPGs.

>>5294316
I'm starting to think Monolith's Blood is better than Id's Doom, it has better art direction and level design and the weapons feel more satisfying and cathartic (The Dynamite Bundle is my favorite explosive weapon in any retro FPS)

>>5299393
may have been a bit hyperbolic. I had outtrigger as a kid and thought it was pretty boring compared to other shooters I had like Counter-Strike and Unreal Tournament but they're not bad games, just not that good imo.

>>5295721
>everybody talks constantly about a game that was launched 22 years ago
>forgetable

I swear you niggers are trying to ruin this board for me. GET THE FUCK OUT you cock gargler.

>>5294316
>I pirated all my Dreamcast games coz they were too expensive to buy legit
>My PS3, to this day, uses Multiman and ilegal copies.
>I Fapped countless times to Chun-Li and Mai Shiranui, by pausing the game during their crouched kicks
>Deadly Alliance was my favorite MK games, just because I played during my last vacation I spent with my cousins in my hometown. That's why I shitpost in every MK thread on existence by defending it, even tho now I know it's kinda shit.
>I was too scared to play horror games until 2010 - when I played fucking RE5. Incidentaly, that's the reason I loved this game so much and will defend it forever. I know it sucks. Fuck you. Fight me irl.
>In every RPG ever I always rename the main character with my name. THero's friends it was my best bro. Hero's love interest was my crush.
>I had a fever because of a fucked up tonsil when I was a child and I had an auditory halucination while playing SFII in my bed at night. During versus screen the music became distorted and It scared the crap out of me. I actually, for real, peed my pants and tried to blame on a cat (ps, we didn't have a cat).
>I Always talked shit about Super Mario World, because it was the only game I had for quite some time. I though SMW was bad.
>I stole a game from a video store when I was a kid. Super Mario Kart. I have it to this day.
>My dad was never around, so whenever my cables required maintenance, I tried hopelessly to fix it by myself, only to be zapped and hurt my fingers, since mom was working all the time. Only after becaming an adult I learned how to fix those thing damn things. But whenever I had to fix this, I get sad, and promise myself I will never leave my child, no matter what.
>I used DKC3 to seduce the neighbor's daughter to try to kiss her and hump her. I was 14, she was 13. It was the first time I orgasmed with a girl. No women ever gave me the same pleasure and intesity.
>I don't like video games anymore. But I am too scared to admit.