/vr/ - Retro Games

okay

>>5254695
zelda 64 is like cardboard billboard the game
such amazing 3d

>According to the story, a united humanity of the generations following the Great Flood, speaking a single language and migrating from the east, came to the land of Shinar (Hebrew: ????), where they resolved to build a city with a tower "whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth."

>The Sky (known as Sky Land in the International NES revision, and occasionally Sky World in other media) is the fifth world in Super Mario Bros. 3. The Sky has nine levels, three Hammer Bros., two Fortresses, three Toad Houses, three Spade Panels, a Mushroom King's palace, and a special Tower level. There are two parts to the world, "The Ground" and The Sky, connected by the Tower level.

TL;DR Mario climbed the Tower of Babel in SMB3

>>5254981
Also Super Mario Bros. 3 is a seemingly innocuous platformer game. In reality, it's a biting allegory of Man's relationship with God.

World 1 is Grass Land. It's an idyllic, easygoing place in an obvious reference to the biblical Paradise.

World 2 is Desert Land. It represents the original sin and exile from paradise, and the hardships endured by man.

World 3 is Water Land, an obvious allegory to the great biblical flood that purged the wicked but allowed the faithful to survive.

World 4 is Giant Land. Mario must face and defeat his giant adversaries, in a vein similar to story of David and Goliath.

World 5 is Sky Land. The first half is actually on earth, and after climbing a tower, Mario finds himself on the cloud tops, where he must make his way to the castle and the King of the heavens (God?). There is debate as to what this world is exactly representing. The duality of heaven and earth might represent how the spiritual awakening of man allows him to live together with God in daily life, as the connecting tower can be climbed up or down at any time. The earthen half could also be a mirrored Israel, and the tower Jerusalem, or the Tower of Babel.

World 6 is Ice Land. It is the site of Ragnarök, or Götterdämmerung; the Twilight of the Gods. It represents the "death" of God as Nietzche put it: man has grew proud and become "enlightened", and no longer bases his morality on the divine, whether for ill or good.

World 7 is Pipe Land, and it represents our world. It consists of six main landmasses, and a large, uninhabited "continent" at the bottom. This land is fragmented, but interconnected, as you can get everywhere with the various bridges and pipes. It represents the first stage of Man separated from God, the building of his empire.

World 8 is Dark Land. It's a gloomy, hellish realm of dark skies and filthy waters. Tanks roll over the ruined countryside and nuclear ash blots out the sun. It represents the downfall of Man separated from God.

>>5254972
Before being driven mad by time travel, the fighter, finds time to rest near a tranquil and mighty oak. He doesn't remember who he was before the rift and he doesn't care because he's gained so much strength from the rift and this wondrous new place. Yet something about this lake troubles him, there's something slowly transforming his playful nature from within. One day as he strikes the tree it occurred to him that he was back to where he was going before he started. Heh, he laughed. Time travel always hooked around, he remembered. What he couldn't shake or forget, though, was what his dad told before he left:

>Boy, there's power beyond your imagination in the rift, but its price is destruction--the place fosters your true soul. It is truly for saints.

He remembered how he laughed at his father; how could he be so hypocritical since it was he that discovered the rift and its properties? Its surreal promises as well. Fine, he again pushed back his demons and sang a breathy tune he was keen to hum: "Chi chi chi---ah ah ah ah". His mantra song of power, so innocent, but why did he fear his release on the tree? Gather strength and then release! Is there something he forgot?

>>5254983
That's really great stuff. I like it a lot.

>>5254695

I'm offended by these threads because they make a mockery of subtext, as though subtext is something that only conspiratorial retards engage with because it's so far out of the realm of possibility that only delusional people would believe in it

you guys are wrong about subtext, stop making fun of it

>>5255435
>I'm offended by these threads
Leave it at that, /vr/

>>5255435

>that ugly programming error is clearly intentional and a commentary on Hyrule's living condition

>>5254701
Does anyone have the Mario folding into an AK-47 image?

>>5254983
Mario 3 is a play anyway. Some disturbed Toad playwright wrote all that shit for Peach's amusement.

>>5254983
This is weirdly convincing

>>5255481
I'm not saying that, I'm saying that when there's an enthusiastic discussion of lore it's intentionally ridiculous parody of people who think programming errors are cryptic hints that lead into huge stories

>>5254983
No man... its just a game

>>5254701
Wasn’t there a sega version of this ?

>>5255557
lorefags really should be gassed

>>5254701
The hieroglyph texture in 64 is interesting.

Mario Land is about ancient aliens who fostered early earth civilizations. It shows up everywhere in Japanese pop culture. Usually Egypt and Japanese Jomon period show up a lot but Eastern Islands and others too. Think Stargate. It was popular in the 70's hence older game devs put it in stuff. That's why you fight an alien obviously.

>>5254972
I would bet $100 that this was added to the game simply to add character to the world and give the player the impression that there are fearsome creatures in Hyrule.

Instead we get nintoddler autists discussing the "lore" behind it lol.

>>5255813
That's better than insulting people on 4cham with buzzwords from /v/

>>5255557

Neck yourself.

>>5254972
>>5255813
i think at some point that tree was supposed to be at the beginning of the forest temple. the marks are to hint that wolfos are about to attack

>>5255816
I dont go on v

>>5255846
I would agree if this tree was in Kokiri Forest and not at Lake Hyrule.

>>5255974
no i meant in development it was first at the start of the forest temple

>>5255992
In Hairal the tiger was her emotional support, but in Termina it became her literal support. Because she no longer had an emotional support, she lost her mind.

>>5255992
LORE: SHE LIKES TIGERS

>>5254695

>>5255419
this could be applied to anything triangle shaped

>>5256207
Lel

>>5255992
>>5256173
Interesting

>>5254701
I can't believe Mario 3 never happened.

>>5254983
But separating ourselves from God is a good thing Anon

>>5256307
Because they're all Jaquio

>>5256207
holy shit.......

>>5256650
God = everything good
Separating yourself from everything good = bad

>>5256198
Kekd

>>5256173
>Hairal

>>5254983
Pipeland represents weed

Cause dude get it Mushrooms are like drugs

>>5256723
And impatientfags will just say it's a lie. I've seen and done so much in games that's either become lost or myth it's funny.

you now know that every yoshi that came form an egg was put there by bowser

>>5258875
So the just like the Yoshi's Islands, Bowser consumes Yoshis and shits out eggs?

>>5258883
i guess so, apparently he lays the same type of egg

>>5255630
why? what's wrong with enjoying lore?

>>5258875
Remember when Bowser used magic?

The Hylia Lake scientist was making amphetamines for Running Man, who was running dope for the Gerudo, he could then arm the Hylians. Busy guy that quick bastard.

>>5259836
In original Super Mario Bros?

>>5259840
mindblown
it was that frog eyeprops all this time

>>5260069
frog drops

>>5256202
I always guessed that was just babby link doodling around

>>5254969
Eh, looks more like a coincidence than anything else.

>>5254972
Always loved this detail, ever since I found it as a kid. Did they take it out in the 3DS remake? I can't recall...

>>5259836
>>5259857
He also could teleport in Mario 64. I know his kids had magic in Mario 3, but that was because they stole scepters from the kings.

I'd like to see some rudimentary magic and the ability to throw hammers come back into Bowser's repertoire, just so he can be a little more than your standard, rank-and-file, flame and wrath monster boss. I always thought a hammer throw should be one of Bowser's special moves in Smash Bros, instead of the ones they made up.

>>5259836
They actually took out his magic-using abilities in the new Bowser's Inside Story remake I know, not retro, but I felt it should be brought up

>>5260347
im pretty they removed it in the shitty remake

they might have changed this grotto as well

>gets rescued from Bowser
>immediately gets herself captured again, apparently willingly

The original Super Mario Bros was a scam. Who is the "we" presenting the new quest? Toadstool is not using the royal we. She means herself and Bowser, they were working together the whole time. When she is "rescued", she immediately presents this new, harder quest which will hopefully take Mario longer to complete, so she can spend more time with Bowser.

>>5262178
"captured "

>>5260728
I played the original and don’t remember any reference to his old magic at all. Did the remake actually change something?

>>5263027
What's the lore behind the little birds on top of Yoshi's house?

>>5262341
in the original Bowser would cast magic from his hands to charge up the Magikoopa Mob attack but in the remake they changed it to breathing fire instead

>>5263036
That's the larval stage of a yoshi. They're born as those little birds, then eventually they create a cocoon around themselves (what we recognize as a yoshi egg), shed their feathers, and break out as baby yoshis.

>>5254701
>that barefoot yoshi

>>5263036
they grow into giants

>>5256173
The Terminian version isn't senile, she just pretends to be so she doesn't have to eat Anju's cooking. It's an extremely cruel way to do that, but it's the one she picked.