/vr/ - Retro Games

>pretend

Wtf who still plays this old shit? Fortnite is the real hotness.

>Oh so this is where that Mary-o guy comes from!

Shmups community is toxic

point systems are useless

You don't have to have played FFVII to be a fan

ARTIFICIAL
DIFFICULTY

>this game is unfair
>old=good
>Final Fantasy is the best series ever (hasn't played any of them)
>watches let's play instead of the game because of meme arrow one

>>5236146
I’m 18 and I exclusively play retro vidya on real hardware via PVM. Not all zoomer are retarded.

No need. I'm 33, but all I have to do is mention that I have a Switch and everyone pretends I'm a zoomer for me.

Holy shit, that's sexist!

This shit is fucking impossible.

>I play old videogames which were already outdated before I was even born because I'm so cool and different and totally not like all the other kids in my high school!

>Yeah, you ancient 30 year old fuck, YOU'RE not the real old game fan, you're just a nostalgia tard. Teenagers and people in their early twenties are the true retro gamers, so shut up because you don't know shit.

>MAME is a totally legit way to play arcade games. [proceeds to shit on Billy Mitchell for using MAME]

>I can't even use LCD monitors for daily computer work, they hurt my eyes and give me a headache. I can ONLY use a CRT.

>I don't buy physical old games because only collectorfags can afford that shit. No way anybody still has a good chunk of their collection from back when the games were current.

>[started collecting games because of GameGrumps, MetalJesusRocks, AVGN]

>>5236225
Imagine the intense anger and rage that drove someone out there to write this post. Just imagine.

>>5236227
Which one hit too close to home?

>>5236146
why aren't gameboys touch screen?

>>5236232
None of them, the bitter, snide attitude was enough to make it obvious.

Is it normal that the SNES I bought on Ebay doesn’t make any noise when I turn it on? Is the fan broken?

this game aged reaaaaaly bad
REMAKE WHEN???

>it was NEVER called psx!

>>5236146
I don't know what you guys are talking about. Half Life 2 is a Classic.

>>5236290
but zoomers hate half lifes

>>5236225
>proceeds to shit on Billy Mitchell for using MAME
You know he used MAME for the save states, right? Every time he didn't get the right RNG he reloaded.

>>5236293
Zoomers will never know what it's like to open up gmod and use the inflation tool on alyxs ass

>>>/v/

>>5236146
y can't metroid crawl?

>>5236273
This.

>>5236293
They do?

>>5236325
yes, specially 2. You see all those /vr/ posts about how "sonic was never good"? well, imagine the same shit for half life

>>5236330
"sonic was never good"
only zoomers say that shit

>>5236330
proof?

>>5236345
visit /v/

>>5236207
37 yo boomer here, still mad about that damn hallway

>>5236225
>MAME is a totally legit way to play arcade games
What's wrong with that?

>>5236146
Lives are an outdated concept. Why should I repeat a section when I've already shown I can beat it? Just a leftover from arcade games, which were all unfair garbage designed to rob kids of quarters. Lives just totally ignore all the advances in game design we've come to know.

>>5236273
>this game aged reaaaaaly bad
What they want to say is the game is hard to pick up and play nowadays because the conventional control schemes are totally different today or it's pain in the ass to run on modern systems. It's understandable, but what's infuriating is the phrase itself implies that it is somehow a game's fault.

>>5236293
This. Instant gratification ADHD riddled zoomers on the "doom good half life bad" bandwagon hate it because they can't fathom having to stand around for 5 minutes to let some characters talk.

>>5236383
>>implying they know shit about doom outside of nu-doom.

>>5236303
>>>>/v/

How do I connect my Xbox controller to a Retron?

>>5236167
>>5236168
They are.

>>5236181
Do people actually say this?

>>5236186
Is a real thing.

>>5236194
Your cookie will arrive in the mail before Christmas.

What the fuck is a zoomer anyway? I've heard of zoom lenses.

>>5236404
Point systems aren't pointless, but are more or less pointless in some games. Like some platformers where it's trivial to max out the score.

I guess you could still compete over how fast you can max it, like this guy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSwCPXuhdp4
So maybe it adds a little something to do, even for those games.

>Brutal Doom is like Doom 2.0! Now THAT'S a definitive way to play Doom!
>What's a WAD? Is it some optional Brutal Doom addon?
>Does this weapon mod have a patch for Brutal Doom compatibility?
>What do you mean - Brutal Doom is not a port?

>>5236412
It's a meme being pushed lately by underage users on their Xmas vacation. Never mind.

>>5236146
What do you mean the PS2 is retro? It was released before I was born, and I'm 18! Think of the community, people are leaving /vr/ because we only discuss grandpa systems

>>5236146
>using zoomer unironically
why, go back to /v/ you fucking cunt

>>5236412
reality:
>gen z
in memes:
>someone who is younger than a boomer (which in meme terms is defined as someone older than a zoomer)

>>5236419
>What do you mean the PS2 is retro?
Not yet. Has to be 20 years old and it's a week or so short of 1999 being 20.

>>5236414
In Mario 3, score is trivial to max, but at least it spawns the matching bonus game ever 80,000 points. Even if score is mostly useless in some games, it does help enable some self-made challenges.

Here's a guy trying to get the lowest score possible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSZeERgSrRE

>>5236412
i wish i was a zoomer

>>5236391
that and brutal doom

>>5236404
>artificial diffculty is a real thing.
i think it depends on the game.

for example a shooter that has hitscanners isn't artificial difficulty but something like CoD Zombies is.

>>5236418
What? That meme is months old.

>>5236146
>pretend

>>5236361
>37 yo boomer here
You would be 30 years too young to be a baby boomer.

>>5236481
It's a MEME, you stupid underage idiot.

>>5236146
>pretend
90% of all users on this site are zoomers

>>5236404
>Do people actually say this?
Yes. FFVII is one of those games that has forged its own culture of fans, many of them too young to have played it originally, but they like the characters and the plot from having watched videos on twitch or youtube.

Don't you remember the articles talking about how boss fights and gameplay were "getting in the way" of gamers enjoying the story? We live in a hell of a time. They unironically think that having to play the game in order to be a fan of it is a form of shaming or "gatekeeping" in the fandom. I guess if you can pretend to be a different gender nowadays and expect people to respect that, pretending to be a fan of a game is far less of a stretch.

>>5236372
Even John Romero was guilty of that when you look at how they got rid of the Wolfenstein-style lives system for Doom.
>>5236383
wtf i love zoomers now

MUH GRAPHICS

>>5236404
best zoomer so far

>>5236412
Some Reddit meme.

>>5236429
this, I'm getting blind, how am I supposed to enjoy videogames?

Wolfenstein 3D is actually one of the first stealth games

>>5236425
But were there not PS2 games made until 2014? Surely those can't be retro.

>>5236225
>Yeah, you ancient 30 year old fuck, YOU'RE not the real old game fan, you're just a nostalgia tard. Teenagers and people in their early twenties are the true retro gamers, so shut up because you don't know shit.
Huh, I was told such the thing here once.

>>5236490
It's a stupid ass meme. If we had an auto-janitor to delete every post containing the words "boomer" or "zoomer" the quality of the board would skyrocket overnight.

>>5236225
>[started collecting games because of GameGrumps, MetalJesusRocks, AVGN]

Imagine being this triggered over 'the wrong people' joining your hobby of collecting children's toys.

>>5236738
>children's toys
Is it the same guy who keeps making posts with this descriptor?

>First jrpg
>"press A to attack"
>"ah starting off simple"
>50 hours later near end of game.
>"press A to attack"

Am I doing it right?

>>5236748
What you have to remember is that this board attracts legitimately mentally ill people due to it's anonymity and the fact that they would be banned on other forums, among other things. I'd guess it's mostly the same guy using this meaningless term every time, that something is broken in his thought process, though there could be two or three other copycats.

>>5236225
You can tell this is the best one because it triggered the most zoomers. They came out of the fucking woodworks.

>>5236714
This is why the rules should change from being based on hardware release to software that's at least 15 years old being considered retro.

>>5236714
Nobody's talking allowing games from 2014.

>>5236146
ok, I'll bite
>Fortnite is a very good game, Quake 3 is bad because its graphics suck

>>5236869
No they shouldn't. This board is about a particular time period and style of games. If you want to talk about games that are 2004+ create a different board, call it /vr2/ or something.

>>5236890
>create a different board
ok I'll email hiro

>>5236518
in fairness i don't think being a fan of something without experiencing the source material is "pretending" to be a fan. think about all of the comics, books, movies, tv shows, video games, etc. adaptations of franchises that exist out there.

you can be a fan of capeshit if all your knowledge of marvel & DC comes from the MCU & DCAU respectively and likewise you could be a fan of FF7 if you never played the PS1 game. it's not like advent children, dirge of cerebus or crisis core don't exist.

>>5236890
We have four video game boards, there is no need for another.

>>5236871
No. Of course not. If you went by 20 years or older, those games wouldn't be allowed until 2034.

>>5236917
Right. So go to /vg/ and make a 6th gen general in there, or go to /v/ to talk about those games

>>5236890
>This board is about a particular time period and style of games
That being...?

>>5236735
It doesn't even make sense. Do people not even know anymore what a baby boomer is?

>>5236938
/v/eenagers just think baby boomers="anyone older than myself"

>>5236869
That sticky on page 1 is ancient anyway. Should be removed or updated.

>>5236936
Everything up until the year 2000 or released on consoles that came before the year 2000. So you have all the 2D games and also a time when 3D games were still in an experimental stage. Games from 2008 could just as well come out today with a little graphical updating, while with "retro" games (as defined by this board) you can tell them are from a different time period. And yeah there's tons of good games from 6th and 7th gen also, it would be a good idea to have a board for that time period.

>>5236950
>Games from 2008 could just as well come out today with a little graphical updating

Beg pardon? Gaming from 2008 is much different from now, it's been 10 years. That's a long time.

>>5236964
>Gaming from 2008 is much different from now
Imagine believing this.

>>>/v/

>>5236979
Unless you've never left your basement in a decade and...yeah this is probably the guy who still uses Nickelback as his all-purpose music boogeyman.

>>5236420

>>5236146
Silent Hill 1 is literally unplayable. Not just because the shitty low res graphics, but the controls are fucking horrible

Tank controls are meant for tanks, not adventure/action games. What where they thinking???

THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF /vr/

Pixels good smoothing bad

>>5236146
>we pretend to be a zoomer playing retro vidya


>Where is the waypoint?
>Why is this so hard!
>Too much reading.
>Got any hidden gems?

>>5236146
>playing vagrant story
This game has so many fucking stats. It is way too fucking complex! How do I equip items? I got lost in the first ten minutes!

>>5236146

NINTENDO NINTENDO NINTENDO!!!!!!! AVGN NINTENDO!!! GONNA TAKE YOU BACK TO THE PASSTTTT BUFFALO SHITSSSSSS

Nintendo?

>>5236938
>too much of a boomer to even realize that's the joke

A legit zoomer near me was saying things like
>people only like Mario and Sonic because they were the first platformers
>Mario and Sonic games suck (I know some of you will say "hurr durr he was right", fuck off)
>Sonic is for Nintendo fans
The absolute state, /vr/. I thought the zoomer meme was just a meme but it's real. They have a completely bizarre angle of reality.

>>5236146
pretending to be idiots will eventually lead the community to be filled with idiots who think they're in good company
no, it's not any different if you're being ironic, or sarcastic, or only pretending, or whatever excuse you come up with
fuck off with your shitty meme, fuck off with your low effort edited wojak OP, go back to /v/ or whatever shithole board you came from and leave /vr/ the fuck alone you dipshit
all of you giving him serious replies are just as bad, have you learned nothing over the years? this is how every board begins its decline into shitposting central

>>5236148
>>5236148
>>5236148
>>5236148

>>5236146
>New Zelda games suck. I prefer the original.

>>5237092
but the original is the ocarina of times for DS

Why the fuck are you faggots tolerating /v/ tier threads???

OP eat shit and die.

>>5237114
The real mystery is why so many people still rush to defend one of the dullest franchises of all time. Seriously each episode following the boy "adventurer" and his pals from Hyrule as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the cartoonish imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of repetitive puzzles, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.
Perhaps the die was cast when Nintendo vetoed the idea of a third party producing the games; Miyanoto made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody- just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their annual "party games" and childish fighting franchise. The Zelda series might be anti-Sony (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Spyro series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact.

>a-at least the platforming elements were good though

"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the exploration was nonexistent. As I played, I noticed that every time Link went to "explore" a largely empty world, Nintendo shoehorned in some repetitive puzzles to pad out the game. I began marking on the back of a Nintendo Power magazine every time I came to the same rehashed box pushing/lever pulling puzzles. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Nintendo's team is so governed by cliches and milking tired franchises ad nauseum that they have no other style of development. Later I watched a lavish, loving Let's Play of The Ocarina of Time by some YouTube manchild. He said something to the effect of, "If these kids are playing Ocarina of Time at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to owning a Nintendo Switch." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play The Ocarina of Time you are, in fact, trained to play the same dull Nintendo rehashes decade after decade.

>>5237053
I'm 33 and I'm not a boomer because I'm not in that generation.

There is nothing funny about this, there is no "joke" I'm missing. Take medication if you need it.

>>5236412
It's a word that will never die and stay forever and ever, because there is no cure for cancer.

>>5237019
That's the problem with pretending to be retarded. Do it too much, and you soon discover that actual retards have joined in but it's far too late to do anything about it because they've already pushed out all the pretenders and become the new community.

>>5237124
It's too late, /vr/ has been long compromised. Everywhere is compromised. There is no escape.

It's like they've been saying all along: There is no cure for cancer.

>>5236146
I died once while playing Mario, that game is artificial difficulty. Having to beat a game with a set number of lives is artificial difficulty. Any game where you can die is artificial difficulty.

>>5237194
Then I'll just live with it untill I die.

>>5236227
Spotted the zoomer

>>5237156
You are the joke. That's why you can't see it.

>>5237239
This but unironically.

>>5236150
>>5236161
>>5236281
>>5237114
>zoomers who think they're in on the joke.

>>5236146
>collecting is for mentally ill hoarders
*proceeds to whine about retro prices*
>have fun with your consoles that will stop working next year
*proceeds to whine about everdrive prices*

The cutscene is over already?! This game I bullshit, how am I supposed to have time to check Twitter?

>>5237239
How? How am I the joke?

brutal doom > 3 > 2016 > everything else

That boomer maymay crap is some Reddit thing that leaked onto here. Pay it no mind.

>>5237280
zoomers love old doom though. why do you think the doom general here is so healthy?

>>5236507
This, I'd say most RPG threads and their posts are by them. No coincidence that, whenever you see a new member making a thread asking about how to get into a genre, it's almost always RPGs.
Gen Z kids are more likely to like old RPGs because that's the closest old popular genre to how modern games work.
The more distant the genre is to that, the less activity (and more hate as a percentage of that activity) it sees.
As zoomers have taken over the board over time we've seen an increase in RPG content and outright dismisal of say arcade content, particularly shmups get the most hate, and even if there are already some millenials (and older) posters around most barely play and are more like the collector type. Those are the two main posters here: fake retro hipster RPG-loving zoomers and older people that have physical games from their childhood and prefer to replay and discuss their nostalgic games almost exclusively.

This is an actual zoomer lmao >>5236404

>>5237297
>Gen Z kids are more likely to like old RPGs because that's the closest old popular genre to how modern games work.
This is a troll, right?

>>5237303
>more narrative focused
>progression systems
>easy difficulty
You tell me

>>5237297
What a garbage post.

>>5237303
not him but I agree
>progression/exp systems
>heavy focus on story
>grinding
>length
>usually not difficult or complex (press A to attack, repeat)

>>5236250
Kek good post

>>5237303

>>5237297
This entire post is a troll or else made by a really, really stupid person.

>>5237308
seething zoomer

>>5237313
Try some argumentation and less empty ad homs bro, otherwise you seem kinda desperate

>>the shmupfag still seething

What the fuck is a "zoomer" anyway?

>>5237317

>>5237297
>Those are the two main posters here: fake retro hipster RPG-loving zoomers and older people that have physical games from their childhood and prefer to replay and discuss their nostalgic games almost exclusively.
You made some very sweeping assertions here that have to be concretely backed up.

>>5237319
a Mazda buyer

>>5237321
I'm not saying I have to, they're my subjective opinion of what I see.

>>5237297
>and older people that have physical games from their childhood and prefer to replay and discuss their nostalgic games almost exclusively

About 80% of the games that interest me aren't even from my childhood or ones I had as a kid.

>>5237332
MOST people you stupid boomer.

>>5237321
>that have to be concretely backed up.
oh god no, don't encourage him. We want him to talk less, not more.

>>5237321
I have no idea why another guy answered for me here >>5237326
I'll admit you can never be completely sure, we're talking about anonymous people after all. But you start to notice trends and little things, like the example I gave with the newcommers. Those definitely seem to be made by people that haven't played older games before, which would make them young. It's always RPGs.

>>5237332
I only said most, not everyone.

>>5237308
100% it was a zoomer pretending.
>lmao
It's obvious at this point.

>>5237338
If apparently he's as dumb as the guy who thinks time froze in 2008 and games ten years ago weren't much different from today, then...

>>5237340
>I only said most, not everyone.
Thing is, you never even backed up your original claim.

>Those are the two main posters here: fake retro hipster RPG-loving zoomers and older people that have physical games from their childhood and prefer to replay and discuss their nostalgic games almost exclusively.
You have never proven that this is anything more than your subjective opinion.

>>5237270
Because we're all laughing at you.
The boomer meme never would have went anywhere if it weren't for autistic pedants like you crying about it.
I can't believe I have to explain this.

>>5237337
>zoomer dribbling, unable to form a coherent thought and shitting himself stinking up the board.
fuck sake, OP look what you've caused.

>>5237342
Or the guy who thinks modern RPGs and retro RPGs are at all alike. Well, maybe with JRPGs since they've never really evolved past the UIltima formula anyway.

the first rpg videogame came out in 1975. fucking retard.

>GOD this game is boring there is too much backtracking

MGSV:TPP was the best game of the franchise and the greatest game he's ever created EVEN THOUGH it was only 30% completed. PT was the second best game he's ever created even though it was a 2 minute tech demo.

I enjoyed Metal Gear Solid when I was a kid, too, but it doesn't hold up. It was good then, but the laws of goodness inflation means that something that used to be good eventually is seen as shit as everything after it gets better and better. Also you smell bad.

>>5237342
I'm not that guy but, have they changed that much? What games from '08 are substantially different from what comes out today? Some fads are different but the overall type of game seems to be relatively the same.

>>5237343
I've given an example with all these threads that show up. Ones that are like:
>I've never played an RPG, where should I start?
You see threads like these from time to time, and IMO it's quite obvious these are all young people getting into older games. They are attracted to RPGs because as I said, they're the closest older popular games to what they're used to.
Judging by what kind of stuff has been posted more and more (stuff that smells like it's coming from a more modern-minded view) I think these posters stay and have been increasing in number over time.
As for the other group, the reason is very simple: you see disproportionally more discussion for best selling games, even in a board that's been going on for a while, you'd thin that it'd diversify more over time as the regulars get a bit fed up of the same or try new things, but you don't see this much.
I didn't think explaining this much was necesary, isn't all of this obvious to everyone?

>>5237350
Octopath Traveller is quite close to 90's RPGs and came out this year with relative success. CRPGs have changed more indeed but those are less popular (the old ones), indeed they gravitate more towards 90's JRPGs.

>>5237357
Missing the point, the fact is that, from the popular legal genres, RPGs are the closest available to what's popular these days.

>>5237370
These are some very interesting assertions considering that threads about RPGs other than FF VI and VII on here are pretty rare. I don't happen to notice any when I look at the catalog.

>>5237286
>Pay it no mind.

It's far too late for that.

>>5236923
>/v/ discussing video games

>>5236404
>Is a real thing.
Counterpoint: it's not

>>5237382
I went there half an hour ago and there was a porn thread up. I didn't see anything else of note there.

>>5237053
If that's a joke, it needs some serious improvement.

>>5237378
Would support my point. The older group would stick to popular older titles they played during their childhood, and the younger ones try these out of reputation first (or, when asking, they get recommendations to play those).

>>5237286

>Zoomers make fun of Boomers
>Boomers embrace it and make fun of Zoomers
>Zoomers get PTSD
>Boomers play Street Fighter 2 Turbo

>>5237370
>I'm not that guy but, have they changed that much? What games from '08 are substantially different from what comes out today? Some fads are different but the overall type of game seems to be relatively the same.

You just made the claim that RPGs today are the same as RPGs in the 80s. So if that's true, then the same argument could made--some fads are different but the overall type of game seems mostly the same.

>>5237384
The RPGMaker thread is nice. Happens once every three months or so.

>>5237389
>The older group would stick to popular older titles they played during their childhood

>I only play my childhood games therefore this logically must be what everyone else does

>>5237390
>Zoomers find the shoryuken motion too hard

Right now /v/ has a 300 post thread about Chrome being a memory hog, even though I'm pretty sure that has nothing to do with video games.

>WHOA THIS GAEM IS JUST LIKE UNDERTALE XDDDDDD

>>5237392
The basic genres of computer gaming were already established in the Apple II days: War game, CRPG, simulation, adventure game. The only thing missing were FPSes which we didn't have until the 90s.

>>5237401
chrome is a vidya platform

>>5237395
Well fuck, you go with what you know. You think I can go around and ask every other of the hundreds of posters here what games they do and don't play? Yeesh.

/vr/ was never good since its inception. From day one, the board has always sucked at anything but Doom and basic bitch JRPGs.

I've never played Sonic. Do you know de way Haha! That was a funny meme.

>>5237392
>You just made the claim that RPGs today are the same as RPGs in the 80s.
No, I didn't. The ones from the 80's are decidedly different.
However, JRPGs from the later half of the 90's are the closest thing (read: not exactly the same, but the closest there is) this board has to modern games and young people into modern games first get attracted to these, that's my point.
IMO the modern gaming landscape started to take shape globally with the PlayStation, and then would fully flourish in the 7th generation of consoles era. Since then, aside from some fads changing, it's stayed quite close. But to be fair we're still only a few years after the end of the 7th.

>>5237395
I absolutely don't do this lmao if anything it's quite the contrary, I value what I played and liked as a kid less and less as my tastes refine over time

>>5237407
Answering for me again?

>>5237417
>IMO the modern gaming landscape started to take shape globally with the PlayStation, and then would fully flourish in the 7th generation of consoles era. Since then, aside from some fads changing, it's stayed quite close. But to be fair we're still only a few years after the end of the 7th.
Huh? 5th gen games are very unlike anything out today. And why would anyone think otherwise; it's been 20+ years.

>>5237425
Started to take shape =/= they're exactly like 2018 games

>>5237297
>>5237370
>>5237417
All of this is false because slow turned-based combat is a natural repellent to ADHD-riddled zoomers. The most zoomer-friendly retro games would be Doom, Half-Life and other FPS in my opinion. It's not like these games are any difficult either since you can savescum in them and trivialize any challenge. And this is supported by Doom recently becoming a meme on /v/ and being considered one of the best games ever despite being largely ignored back then.

>>5237184

>>5237443
You're kinda right, perhaps I didn't notice them because they all go to their thread which I don't enter. I appreciate an actual counter argument as opposed to endless ad homs, props to you.
That being said, that is why only some easier to get into RPGs get attention, the ones that are require more patience do tend to get less attention.

>>5237449
the ones that require more patience*

>"I love 8bit games and chip tune music."
>post screen shot of a 16 bit game.
>links to a Anamanaguchi

>>5237458
Nice sneering attempt, /v/ crackbaby.

>>5237458
post the original pic

>>5237483

>>5237489
>any% glitched

>>5237458
That's not really how that meme works

>Be Zoomer
>Only know of retro because of AVGN
>Only emulate NES on phone
>Reeeee whenever a non Nintendo thread is made

>>5237489
Which one do you think is trannyleaf lmao

>>5237496

>>5236372
i was going to post this because its my autismo peeve. the amount of people older than 18 who do this is astounding. they're setting up an inferior and less rewarding experience for themselves, too, real sad.
>>5236912
big difference. the films are independent pieces of media. the ff7 shit is just ridiculous (unless they have played the official fanfictions those count)
>>5237297
absolutely right about people's entry into retro being rpgs (source: me and lots of other people i talk to)

>>5236146
>all new vidya games don't matter to the series

Controller needs three hands to play

>>5237554
>absolutely right about people's entry into retro being rpgs (source: me and lots of other people i talk to)
I knew it, too many strange coincidences for me to not be right, at least to some extent. For some reason when you point this out people here get triggered, though (perhaps some of them getting caught and feeling strangely ashamed, or older ones not wanting to see reality?). Glad to see a more reasonable debate this time.

>>5236394
Wojakposters need to be lynched.

>>5237567
i dont believe that rpgs of the 90s are all that common to what's around now. anything from undertale to witcher 3 is far different from whats back then and far more "modernized". i think the reason people get into it thru those is because ecelebs shill them (almost exclusively squenix and earthbound btw) and platformers, and platformers are an actual challenge and even more removed from modern tastes. also, rpg's are """more complex""" because they have lots of numbers and """"deep stories"""" or whatever, and that's bound to attract people. idk why people get so insecure about what they're into. probably high school mentality carried over

>>5237590
As I've been saying they're not 1:1 but certainly the closest, though FPS is also close as pointed out by another anon.

>>5237554
>big difference
i don't think it's that big. FF7 has i think 1 movie, an animated short, 2 spin off games also cameos & appearances in dissidia, kingdom hearts & smash bros.

FF7 wasn't people's only exposure to the characters & story.

>>5236167
>joined shmup discord room
>one of the mods was bitching about orange guy in office
>he said the abbreviation "NZ", I assumed he meant New Zealand
>I asked him what NZ meant anyway just to clarify
>he threatened to ban me for being "uneducated"
>I get banned

Yeah I'm gonna have to agree with you there

>>5237390
Pretty much this. There is unironically nothing wrong with being a boomer
t. not a boomer

>>5237641
>discord
that was your problem

>>5236146
*sniff* Sonic was NEVER good.

>>5236401
Engineers are all absolutely retarded manbabies and this proves it.

>>5236719
I was going for more of a "the variety of zoomers who are into old games and/or post on /vr" thing rather than the average stereotypes.

>>5237668
underrated post

These old games simply doesn't feel right. Their controls are so clunky and the camera so wonky, it's literally impossible to play without reading a literal book with instructions. Thank god things got better after 2014.

>>5236148
fpbp

>>5236146
This game has no ending? WTF

>Sonic was never good though.
>artificial difficulty
>This retro game is really good! I've watched tons of lets plays on it!
>The Half Life series is kind of boring. Doom is much more of a video game.
>The n64 controller design was so stupid. Who the fuck has 3 hands to use that thing?
>Of course I love retro games! I have an entire SNES and N64 collection!
>I just spent 300 dollars on Earthbound. Cartridge, box, manual, and everything!
>Sega never even came CLOSE to being as good as Nintendo.
>Brutal Doom outclasses vanilla Doom in every way.
>I need to get through this whole game with a set amount of lives? What a bunch of bullshit!
>AVGN said it was bad.
>The Playstation wasn't as good as the Nintendo 64.
>The American SNES design is so ugly compared to the Super Famicom and PAL designs
>Collecting hardware? What a waste of money. Why not just use an emulator?
>Holy fuck why are everdrives so goddamn expensive?!
>Why yes, I DO own an NES and SNES classic.
>What do you mean I need a CRT T.V. to get the best retro gaming experience? A flatscreen T.V. is perfectly fine.

>>5237730
>The Playstation wasn't as good as the Nintendo 64.

Imagine coming up with all those other things just to put this bs bait in the middle.

>>5236979
I can’t imagine that

>>5237370
>have they changed much [since ‘08]
Not really. The addition of mandatory online and forced multiplayer; but the substance of the games hasn’t changed one damn dime.

>>5237793
Thought so. To add to this:
http://www.vgchartz.com/yearly/2008/Global/

>sonic was never good
>nintendo saved the gaming industry
>lives are a way to artificially increase difficulty
>the saturn was a complete failure
>the master system was a complete failure
>super castlevania bros
>egoraptor said it was bad
>mortal kombat was just a shitty street fighter rip-off
>all western games were terrible
>worship kojima
>snes had better music than the genesis

>>5236146
This thread
>>/vr/thread/S5234096

Why is this thread still up? I've been banned for less than this.

>>5237717
OH NONONO NONONNONONO
Who made it? Hideo Kojima?
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>5237448
Is this a troll? That's not Descartes. This is Descartes, and he never said that. I think the quote's Voltaire.

>>5236146
Zoomers aren't necessarily being trendy.
I'm guessing most retro zoomers got into it the way I did: they weren't impoverished but not very rich growing up, and so got older stuff that hit it's value floor, so they're already familiar. Video game generations kinda blur together when you're young and unexposed. I noticed showing games to my nephews and nieces that they don't have graphics preferences.

>>5236383
t. jrpg fan

>>5238159
seething zoomer

>>5238136
That's Hume (David)

And the quote was actually originally by Jacobi (Friedrich Heinrich)

>>5238165
Isn't this David Hume?

>>5238174
No, that's Alfred North Whitehead.

>>5238176
But I thought this was Alfred North Whitehead.

>makes thread about obscure console
>inserts opinion copied from avgn video

>>5237878
>>the saturn was a complete failure
this one is actually true though.

>>5238186
That's Nietzsche, this is basic stuff.

>uses the term ‘quality of life’ unironically in reference to a video game

>>5238259
I would have much less patience for playing Heroes if I still had to manually split into one stacks.

>>5237319
>there are people who've been on 4chan more than two weeks and don't know this meme

>>5238174
Hume was the guy who said the entire universe could just be our imagination because our senses are imperfect.

>>5238195
t. zoomer

>>5237674
>Engineers
>Manbabys
Maybe, I've seen a few

>Engineers
>Retarded
Nah senpai, they're actually smart as fuck, just riddled with tism

>>5238146
>Video game generations kinda blur together when you're young and unexposed.
This is so true. I was born in '89 but grew up with a hand me down NES because my family was poor. I didn't get an upgrade until 1999 or 2000 or so.
To this day I have a warped association of console generations, when I hear "NES" I immediately think "mid to late 90s" even though I know that's wrong

>we pretend to be a zoomer playing retro vidya
>everyone starts to argue instead
Never change /vr/.

>>5238423
Boomer here
Never touched gay ass Saturn

>>5236404
Damn, you're good at that. must be a natural.

>>5238274
>I'm supposed to know or care about every flavor of the month maymay created by mentally ill /v/eenagers

>>5238674
Yes, yes you are.

>>5238146
>they weren't impoverished but not very rich growing up, and so got older stuff that hit it's value floor, so they're already familiar. Video game generations kinda blur together when you're young and unexposed
My story exactly. The borders between generations are even mor blurry if you were PC kid.
t. 28 years old zoomer

>>5236146
Anyone else think every game should have save states now? This is how these old game was meant to be played

>>5238028

>>5237489
Oh lordy, slapping the NPCjack faces on them is a vast improvement.

Boomer thread gets 240+ replies.
Imagine being this assblasted about young people.

>>5236381
No they also mean the graphics. I know someone who rates all NES games with 1 in graphics because of how realistic graphics are today.

He should make a career as retro games reviewer.

>>5237507
Any% glitched.
I chuckled

Anyone else played this little hidden gem?

>The greatest generation = Millennials
Boomers = Zoomers

Generation Z2 is destined for greatness. I can't wait for them to make you Zoomers irrelevant. Hilurry up and have kids so another generation of intelligent people can join us millennials at the top of Olympus. I can see it already:

>hey dad, why are you watching that stupid spaz play video games instead of just playing them yourself
>because I'm a lonely loser and I can pretend he's my big brother!
>Wow that's fucking pathetic dad. I'm gonna go pwn some noobs with grandpa in a real video game. Have fun being a lame faggot dad.

>>5236330
Millennial. Half life is the one of the most overrated games of all fucking time.

>>5236383
Games are for gameplay. Your the one who sounds like a dumb zoomer praising movie games.
>>5236749
Yes, you are.
>>5236848
Nah. I'll bet that's mostly millennial comments.
>>5236902
Say hi for me.
>>5236912
The just say it because they think they're supposed to. Just like they listen to faggot mumble rap but will tell you 2Pac is the greatest rapper of all time, because they think it's the expected answer and they want to fit in. Our of they say the Beatles or Led Zeppelin is the greatest band of all time but they just listen to the black veil brides or some shit. They do the same thing with Zelda too.

>>5236917
We could really use a smash board.
>>5236964
Nah. Fallout 3 and GTA 4 came out in 2008. Nothing has fucking changed. "ooooh more particle effects!!!" who fucking cares?
>>5236987
I like using Limp Bizkit or ICP as my music boogie man. Though I appreciate a good smash mouth joke as much as the next guy.
>>5237034
So did you the first time.
>>5237064
Blame the NuSonic games that make these tards think sonic if about mindlessly running forward when it's actually about pinball physics. They play marble zone and get pissed and quit.
>>5237203
Dark souls IS artificial difficulty. Play a real action game like Bayonetta or Devil May Cry you dumb faggot.
>>5237314
Unless they're tactical RPGs.
>>5237489
They all look like Oblivion characters.
>>5238146
For me there was just lots of shit I never got to play because I could only afford a couple games a year, or I just flat out never heard of them.
>>5237674
Engineers are all fucking based. They don't put up with any shit and don't mind words with anybody. The engineer is the guy who will look at the head foreman, some dumb ass shift supervisor, or any other retarded dick head and just laugh in their face and say "Nah that doesn't make any fucking sense. You're wrong. This is what we're gonna do, assuming you want to do things the right way that is."

>>5237383
It is, people used to just say the game was "cheap" though.

I sold my collection sometime around 2010. Got tricked by the "you'll never need this outdated plastic again" meme.

Am I allowed to buy like 20 of my favorites back or is that tryharding?

>>5236146
"These blocky games are too hard. The deathtraps aren't even labeled. Oh well, time to go eat laundry soap and die."

>>5240415
>>5240440
r*ddit

>>5240402
Cringe.
>>muh doom

>>5240528
Nah. More of a Quake and Unreal Tournament man myself. GG no re

>>5240525

>>5236146
Kill every last zoomer on the planet. You are the worst fucking nigger trash to ever exist. COME ON NUKES COME ALREADY!

>>5236890
/v2k/ (2000-2010) would be so good. There's so much trash and treasure for that decade it needs it's own board. In basically year, that will be 10 years ago for the most recent games. that's retro enough. Honestly it would pull some heat from /vr/ which should just be changed to "Classic Games". There was so much global market penetration after gen 6 the board would be madness. Truly a 4chan shitshow.

>>5240569
>debate
peak

>>5236146
"Man, this is great! I love videogames!"

>>5240528
>le cringe
Doom craps all over most FPS games that came after it. Accept it.

>>5240647
Serious Sam TFE took what Doom was going for and made it actually fun

>>5236146

>lol just learn japanese bro
>not knowing japanese
>depending on romhackers to translate a game
>its not that difficult to learn japanese

>>5236146
Check my dubs you assblasted boomers
*dabs on you*

>>5240589
>/v2k/ (2000-2010) would be so good.
No it wouldn't. We have enough vidya boards, no need to waste server space on that.

>>5236281
>they were never called DOS roms

>>5236148
fpbp

>>5240449
It's called being a frustrated crybaby... unfortunate for 9 year olds, really sad for 30 year olds

>>5236146
No. =)

>Geeeeeehhhh vee-dee-gaaaaaam
>*bites controller*
>Guuuuuhhh Maaaaaarrrrr buuuuuuuuuuhhhhhh
>*shits himself*

Because of the holidays, my cousins came to visit with my uncle.
They're 21, 19 and 13. I gave them one of my spare Super Nintendo with some games back in 2005 or so, when the 2 older ones were still toddlers. They always remember that with fondness and say they love the Super Nintendo. The older one has an Xbox One now, but he always says the Super Nintendo is the best. I incited nostalgia in a zoomer! heh.
But here's the funny thing, the youngest one is the one that knows more about retro, because of Youtube. The other day he was like "I love retro games! I want to buy a Sega Genesis", oh yeah and he also thinks PS2 is retro.
But he still knows more than the other 2, who besides the SNES because they had it, don't really care much, other than maybe curiosity.
Yesterday they came to my house and I made the younger one play Saturn with me, he said he wanted to play some fighting, so I showed him Street Fighter Alpha 2 and Vampire Savior.
/blog

>>5240395
Go to hell, Aarnio. Just fucking go to hell, you Rohme wannabe powerbottom.

>>5236518
>They unironically think that having to play the game in order to be a fan of it is a form of shaming or "gatekeeping" in the fandom. I guess if you can pretend to be a different gender nowadays and expect people to respect that, pretending to be a fan of a game is far less of a stretch.

do you call non-japanese fire emblem fans posers too because they got into it through smash bros.?

>>5238136
GIVE HER.... THE DICK....

Threads like these remind me that /vr/ really isn't that much better than /v/.

>>5241726
It's pretty much the same people, just not as many.

>>5237458
This thread is full of so much delicious butthurt but this one is my favorite. Imagine being so mad at total strangers that you take the time to make this. Imagine being proud enough to show it off online. It's beautiful.

>>5241418
Based zoomers

>>5241738
imagine being a tranny

>>5236146
>pushes start
>walks Mario through half of first level; dies
>form into Millennial-ball!
>rock like a rocking chair
>ceases all communication
>parents watch a lot of TV so they have his balls cut off

Niggas iffy, uh, Blicky got the stiffy, uh
Got the blicky, uh, drum, it holds fifty, uh
Scum Gang!
I'll see y'all later, suuwoo!

Pop these niggas like a wheelie, nigga, you a silly nigga
In the hood with them billy niggas and them Hoover niggas
You run up and they shootin' niggas, we ain't hoopin', nigga
Yo KB, you a loser, nigga, up that Uzi, nigga
On the stoop, crills in my drawers, your girl on my phone
She wanna fuck, but keep her clothes on, I only want the jaw
Man that's really all I use her for, I kick her out the door
I don't want her, you can keep the whore, she fiendin' for some more
In New York my niggas don't Milly Rock, my niggas money bop
Blow a case, a nigga throwin' shots, I run 'em off they block
Quarter milli in the stash box, I grinded for my spot
Niggas talkin' 'bout that cash but my bag worth a lot
I don't fuck with no old hoes, only new hoes
Put my dick in her backbone, I pass her to my bro
I don't love her, that's a sad ho, she a bad ho
I'ma fuck her, then I dash home, to the cash ho

I'm on some rob a nigga shit, take a nigga bitch
Do the dash in the whip, count the cash in the whip
I pull up with a stick, I let that shit hit
Shout out... but I fucked that nigga bitch

>>5241769
*FFVII sounds in the background*

>>5241769
I bet he's getting the stiffy in jail now.

>>5240597
underrated

Why were the puzzles in that one game considered so hard when I could just go onto the internet and look up every button press and decision on an easily accessible guide?

>>5236281
>>it was NEVER called psx!
actually it's 90s kid boomers who say this,as the Playstation was almost always called a Playstation in normal conversation of the time.
zoomers always say 'psx' as they know of the system only through the internet

>>5238537
t. zoomer

The absolute state of this board.

>>5236146
80% less buttons is so confusing!

>>5241831
>>5241831
>zoomers always say 'psx' as they know of the system only through the internet

Didn't that start because people wanted to differentiate between the PlayStation (1) and the PlayStationOne?

i challenge anyone to find a more zoomer video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgr4kY_-8pQ

>>5241927
>"but now that we've entered a "future""

Stopped the video right there. I'll skip around it, but damn...

>>5236146
Man, shin megami tensei 2 has aged so badly, i'll go play persona 5 instead, wich started with persona 3

>>5241924
Nah they called it PSX way before that. Game “Journalists” were using that abbreviation in reviews and such as far back as ‘96 as far as I can remember.

>>5241927

Please keep Wojak memes out of /vr/.

>>5241927
"theres nothing wrong with being addicted to social media"

>>5241927
Why does every 'video essayist' sound the exact same? It's like they're all doing an impression of the same guy.

>>5236148
>tfw can't pretend

>>5241927
I'm 21 and this video is pointless for me because I had contact with those things at the moment. But this guy... I assume that he is older than me taking into account his voice. I mean, if he were 10 I would understand.
What is wrong with this guy?

>>5241927
You should feel bad for posting this video

>>5237350
What's a "modern WRPG" anyway?
They all seem to be ARPGs and heavy on cinematic content. The only turn-based RPG I know of is Divinity Original Sin.

>>5236404
>artificial difficulty is a real thing
That no one actually understands and therefore never use the word properly. I guarantee you cannot both give me a real definition of it and then apply it critically to a game.

>>5236146
>zoomer
You obviously don't need to pretend

>>5241927
This isn't even a terrible idea for a video. Too bad he didn't actually give his thoughts on any of the shit he was doing and instead just jerked himself off for twenty minutes. The video's only ten minutes long but it feels like 20. Stupid AF

>>5242246
Not them, but artificial difficulty can be many things from incompetent controls and layouts thereof, to in game timers, forcing players to make hasty decisions instead of plotting them out. Needless penalties also ramp up the difficulty to an artificial degree, like say, forcing a player to repeat from 6-1 all the way back to 6-3 on Ninja Gaiden NES just because you died on one of the bosses. Now that kind of difficulty is cheap and just wears on the player.

>>5241831
We never said "pee-ess-ex" in conversation, but it was the common abbreviation in old gaming magazines and Christmas shopping booklets until the PS2 came out. PS was never used, and frankly looks dumb. Just like we never said "ness", we called it a "Nintendo", it was called "en-ee-ess" once the Super Nintendo came out. However I never heard the "ess-en-ee-ess" until Youtubers started saying it. NES and SNES were common in magazines though.

And it was NEVER called the "sness".

>t. 34 year old boomer

>>5242270
>arcade design is artificial difficulty
now THIS is a zoomer

>>5242270
What makes those game mechanics different from other game mechanics that add difficulty? Is making a hitbox bigger in a shmup artificial difficulty too?

>>5242274
>However I never heard the "ess-en-ee-ess" until Youtubers started saying it.

You don't think people would have come to the conclusion of saying "SNES" like "sness" without seeing it in a Youtube video? This is like those people who whine about "e-celebs" when somebody posts a thread about an extremely well known game that some youtuber happened to make a video about recently.

>>5237383
it is but it's never used properly.
it's properly used to a fairly narrow set of game elements that make a game seem harder without actually being harder. RPGs may have "artificial difficulty" where gameplay dynamics stay the same but numbers get bigger, the animations get flashier, and battles might waste more of your time.

The problem is that 99% of the time, zoomers using the term "artificial difficulty" haven't properly evaluated the context of whatever mechanic they are bitching about (limited lives, meaningful chance/RNG elements, low tolerance for mistakes, or having to think about literally anything).

Also, people use the term "artificial difficulty" when they actually mean "accidental difficulty" which is when a game is hard because the developers were incompetent and designed the controls poorly or the content was designed carelessly.

>>5242270
>incompetent controls
>incompetent layouts
That is not artificial difficulty.
That is accidental difficulty. The difficulty is not fake. It's real. But it's just there by accident, not intent.
>to in game timers, forcing players to make hasty decisions instead of plotting them out.
This is not artificial at all. This is a great example of abusing the term artificial difficulty.
>Needless penalties also ramp up the difficulty to an artificial degree, like say, forcing a player to repeat from 6-1 all the way back to 6-3 on Ninja Gaiden NES just because you died on one of the bosses
Again, this is not artificial difficulty. It's just difficulty. The game is designed such that you are expected to master entire segments of the game at once.
Maybe it's poor design. Maybe it's tedious and that segment is too long. But labeling it "artificial difficulty" tells you nothing about why the design is bad in fact it carries with it a bunch of pointless baggage, and therefore shouldn't be used as criticism of Ninja Gaiden.

>>5242278
Nope. I appreciate arcade difficulty, but that was a home version that wasn't even close to being based on the original. I can beat that game's ass, but it's still cheap at times.

>>5242281
You cannot honestly compare overly large hitboxes to literally forcing artificial fatigue on the player. Making the player go through previous levels does nothing but punish and like I said, also gives fatigue, thus it makes the game harder on an artificial level. The enemies aren't smarter; the levels aren't ever more ingenious, and the goals haven't fundamentally shifted, it's just pure bullshit.

>>5242285
Irrelevant. I was playing those games when they came out, it doesn't matter IF someone could hypothetically come to the conclusion of calling it that, but in reality that's not what happened. And unless you were alive during that time and were old enough to be playing these games when they were new, it's irrelevant what your opinion is on how it COULD have been as opposed to what it was. It's not like these games came out 200 years ago and we have to speculate given the evidence that we have.

>>5242285
Not them, but no one ever said "Ness" or "SNESS" back in the '80s and '90s. If anyone ever tried I'm sure they got socked in the arm pretty hard and cut that shit out on the spot. We all said "Nintendo" ;et al. No one ever said those cringe-inducing phonetic terms until around 2000 or so by people who didn't know any better.

>>5242306
It's a home game with actual arcade inspired design, if only we had that these days instead of these terrible fake retro hipster indie SHITE.
Having to be consistent in a particular time period is the whole point of it and what's sorely missing in today's games. It's in fact the reason a board like this has a reason to exist. If you don't like this you're not really into classic games.

>>5242315
>It's a home game with actual arcade inspired design
Huh, I love Ninja Gaiden on the NES, but I never, ever thought of it that way, but you're right. Often times I find that dynamic to be punitive and cheap, albeit arcade-inspired. Maybe some things are best left in an arcade?

>>5242315
>Having to be consistent in a particular time period is the whole point of it and what's sorely missing in today's games. It's in fact the reason a board like this has a reason to exist. If you don't like this you're not really into classic games.
Meaningless. Or are you suggesting that all games everywhere must be in agreement in their formulas of cheap punishments or else they're not legitimate somehow. Confusing point.

>>5242315
>If you don't like this you're not really into classic games.
Classic or new, if the game forces you to revisit baby steps because you missed one leap far off into the journey, it's being cheap; it's wearing you down.

>>5242336
You say you appreciate arcade challenge but I see you were lying or think arcade is Super Meat Boy or some retarded shit

The thing I most identify with zoomers is this odd mentality that all older games are poorly designed. Not that they were made for a different time, where people (mostly kids, let's be honest, you were a weirdo if you played video games into your 20s) enjoyed them in that way. They believe that modern games are the best and things like lives and limited continues were just "primitive callbacks to coin-munching arcade games" or "made intentionally hard to sell players guides". When in actuality, games like Wizards and Warriors bored me to tears as a kid with its infinite lives and no penalty respawn points.

While beating Contra on that last fucking life was exhilarating, because I had gotten there before and died already making me play through the game again, which I did with gusto while I yelled all the cuss words a 7 year old me knew at the Red Falcon or whatever the fuck it was called.

Also, with the entire power of the internet and every single instruction booklet being a Google search away, they're too lazy to read what you fucking expected to have read on the drive home from the video game/toy store... and then bitch and complain that "the game never told me that!" when it's in the fucking manual.

>>5242370
>You say you appreciate arcade challenge but I see you were lying
I do and I'm not lying. Maybe reread what I said.

>>5242370
>or think arcade is Super Meat Boy or some retarded shit
No, but some of it definitely is and there's no way to win except to memorize them.

>>5242376
Legit zoomer as I thought. Enjoy your JRPGs

>>5242386
Gen X. I can beat Ninja Gaiden without dying, but that's pretty hard. The game still can be cheap as well as a masterpiece.

>>5242386
>Enjoy your JRPGs
Does OoT count? Otherwise I don't play them.

>>5242376
>there's no way to win except to memorize them
Execution takes more than memorization.
Besides what is wrong with memorization?
Zoomers all too often mistake "trial and error gameplay" with "game is too hard for ME to do on the first try"

>>5242401
Zoomers only feel they should get 1 or 2 game overs at most during the first play through.

>>5242401
That's not what I was talking about. The memorization ones are the ones that spam you with enemies making it impossible not to get killed and re-up on a quarter, like Smash TV-which the creators admit cannot be done with one quarter. Cannot be done. And I dare you to fucking try it.

>>5241927
Good idea terrible execution

>>5242407
Ah ok, you didn't specify. Not all arcade difficulty is like that.

>>5242407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLeL6ONPNiw

>>5242424
>MAME
>no camera on operator and game
>on YouTube no less
Fuck that faker faggot. The creators itself admitted that it cannot be completed in one credit.

>>5242448
*themselves

/ I think video game history revisionists are as bad as the political ones.

>>5242448
Back to OoT faggot

>>5242469
I dislike cheaters. The Smash TV video? I won't even watch it.

Nintoddlers are so lame, SSB is babbies first fighter, I could beat all those guys but I'm too busy playing real games.

I'm downloading DOS turn based strategy games
Such as Stalingrad, Conflict, Panzer General, The Civil War and 5th Fleet

>>5241370
>there's no such thing as bad game design

fuck zoomers

>>5240395
>millennials
>top of Olympus
Can't tell if delusional or retarded, it was over for us before it even started.

>>5236167

It really is. And by the way they are called shooters, or shooting games.

>>5236146
>literally anything about Super Mario Bros 2
no zoomers, we didn't get Doki Doki Panic, we got a better game than Doki Doki Panic and even Japan considers it to be the better sequel.

>>5243427
Thank you. No one called them "shmups" back in the day and if they did they would have been beaten up for their folly.

>>5237458
what's wrong with Chrono Trigger? I've never played it.
Only thing I know about it is Akira Toriyama's art and some sort of time mechanic

Arcades were shit and a money stealing scam because i never saw an actual arcade from the inside.

>>5240660
>getting locked in a room which doesn't open until you kill x amount of shittily rendered polygonal enemies is more fun than actual varied level design and spritework
uhhhh eat my entire ass?

>>5236239
But thats what you zoomers sound like. Even your post has the "bitter snide". The whole thread is about making fun of zoomers, you outed yourself quick.

>>5236412

>>5236417
i'd suck his daddy dick

>>5236735
I do think its funny, but people seriously post it. That is bad. I agree with your idea.

>>5237612
All of those things changed the story of ff7 and the game lore is not in any other games and remakes. No gold saucer, no weapons, no underwater, no sector 7 slums, no cait sith, no giant materia, no wutai, no cosmo canyon, no fort condor, etc, etc, etc...

You dont know anything about ff7 really, unless youve played it ...

>>5243121
>disingenuous meme arrow paraphrase

>>5236146
>this game is so boring and slow

WTF this game doesn't even let you customize your character? Fuck this *dabs*

>>5243669
>game

>>5243669
That's true though

>>5237507
That gave me a sensible chuckle
>wrong warp

this game is a lot of fun

>>5237014
I've never played, do you actually have 2 throttles that you use to control each side

>>5243750
Silent Hill controls like Doom, but with an out-of-body experience

What's with this stupid
>filters
meme? This is how the developers intended they just didn't have the technology yet.

>>5243738
To be fair I played this in ‘95 and couldn’t figure it out.

FWI losers, it was called the SEGA SYSTEM™, not the SEGA """"MASTER""" SYSTEM.
I know because my Uncle gave me this ancient Sears catalogue to read while he gives me his special massage.

>>5236194
Absolutely no one gives a fuck.

>>5244630
I don't think the person making those claims is a Zoomer. Might be younger than that. Even zoomers can use wikipedia and google.

>>5244687
I care. It gives me some hope that older games in the future will be preserved in some form instead of entirely rotting away.

The N64 is the BEST console of ALL TIME. Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 are timeless classics and the pinnacle of gaming. And while Ocarina is great, Majora’s Mask is my personal favorite Zelda. I’m just weird like that. :)

>>5244712
>The N64 is the BEST console of ALL TIME.
I dunno 'bout that.

>>5244712
>Ocarina of Time and Mario 64 are timeless classics and the pinnacle of gaming
That is true. I'm waiting to get a real copy of Majora before getting into it. Yeah, never played it all this time.

>>5244721
No one cares you simp.

>>5243738
Made me lol

>>5244726
Whine more, faggot. You're angry that people care.

>>5244729
Who cares other than you?

>>5244736
>my parents only bought me shitty disc-based systems by bottom is sore, daddy!

It'll be ok, anon.

>>5244743
What the hell are you on about? I’m asking who cares that you’re waiting to get a real copy of Majora’s Mask you shit-slurping fairy.

>>5244747
Keep moving those goal posts, pumpkin. And you were not clear, but yes, many care as MM is hugely popular.

>>5244750
Then go post about it on Twitter and not here, “pumpkin”.

>>5244756
I'll post where I want, triggered zoomer.

>>5244763
How about I post my cock down your throat you insolent little queer.

>>5244767
That sure was detailed for a straight vidya post. In all seriousness, go fuck yourself you flaming moronic pile of STD-ridden tampons. :^)

>>5244769
;^)

>>5244774
lol'd for real

>>5237067
This is very true.

Yellow Devil really pumps me up. The music, combined with the rushing globs of yellow, really sets the mood.

>this entire thread
So this is why people are sick of /v/...

>>5236417
>He doesn't like brutal doom

>>5244747
Mm is meh. Its supposed to be scary, but im not a 3 year old. If i want to play game thats supposed to be scary while backtracking, ill play resident evil. On another note. The moon crashing into earth is a shitty rip off of ff7s meteor!

>>5237347
No, I think you're alone on this one anon. The only people who joke about boomers are having a midlife crisis

>>5236438
>brutal doom

>>5245518
>Poodle broom

>>5236752
But games are toys anon.

>>5237067
I'd rather argue about Castlevania desu.

>>5237297
Are you the guy who constantly has to shit up any rpg thread while crying about muh shmup general leaving?

>>5245551
I don't post on threads about games I don't like, so no. I don't post much period. Does that really happen?

>>5245567
There was a time not too long ago I think. There were more FF9 threads than usual and some anon(s) kept shitposting about how every rpg is casual and how angry they were that people in the shmup general moved on to greener pastures. Or it's just all shitposting I don't know, this place is fucking stupid.

>>5237878
>>nintendo saved the gaming industry
how is this wrong, enlighten me

Hey everyone, check out this cool filter on my emulator!!! Just as the original designers of the game intended!!!

>>5244712
that's most people on /vr/ nowadays

>>5240589
I agree with you but I don't think it'll happen. Too bad it's impossible to start a thread about anything earlier then 2012 on /v/ before 2am

why can't metroid crawl?

>>5241927
>for movies we had the rise of animation

>>5241927
I want to fucking cut myself now

>>5239739
>play SotN for the first time on ps4
>aquire bat form
>go straight to richter and beat him. Dont even think of him as the endboss
>creditroll
>wat.jpg
>still have plenty of Paths and places on my map i could go to
>what for?

>>5245406
>MM is a horror game
>thanks to ripping off some random spell in FFVII, Nintendo magically came up with the whole plot and atmosphere of MM
Can't tell if you are roleplaying to fit in the thread or genuine, but good job.

>>5245638
The early 80s were a different time, the world was SIGNIFICANTLY less globalized. Even Hollywood movies were usually less popular with people than local media. Americans consumed American media, Europeans consumed European, Latin-Americans consumed Latin American (believe it or not Brazil had a decent inner market of home computer and SMS games). Video games were no exception, there was no world video game crash... just an American one.

Even in Canada, Atari 2600, Colecovision and Intellivision game market didn't take that big of a hit (although admittedly much fewer games were imported... which was a quality filter)... the only thing Nintendo did to "save" the industry was very tactfully package their product to fool amerifats that it wasn't Japanese. As far as Canuckland we just saw video games slow to a trickle but despite popular belief, there WERE American console games made after the "crash", until Nintendo slapped them off the planet with their Godzilla cock.

whats the matter zoomers?
still mad that 3rd and 4th gen games are better than 5th gen games?

>>5246791
man, zoomer 80s fanfiction is the absolute worst.

>>5246963
yesterday I saw a zoomer unironically trying to shit on the N64 by saying he'd rather play NES games, so it's like they're walking around in blissful ignorance of the real world.

Whats the age requirement that differentiates boomer and zoomers? I'm guessing 25 is the cutoff for zoomer right?

>>5247093
Get over it, ‘toddler. Nintendo didn’t save shit.

>>5247101
Both are danksauce

>>5246791
>Latin-Americans consumed Latin American (believe it or not Brazil had a decent inner market of home computer and SMS games
Get a load of this zoomer.
The whole "omg brazil LOVES the master system!" is a meme. Yes, Master System was locally released officially in Brazil through TecToy, who acquired the license, but this wasn't the 80s, it was in the 90s. And the truth is that, despite TecToy licensing SMS, Mega Drive and even Saturn, the true most popular console in the late 80s and early 90s in Brazil (and most other LA countries) was the Family Game (chinese clone of the Famicom). Cheap, it was everywhere, and games were very easy to find. Did I say it was cheap?
Also, the "brazil-exclusive" SMS games were just a few reskins of other games.
People like to romanticize the whole TecToy SMS thing, but in truth it wasn't really all that popular here, I believe the Master System was more popular in Europe.
Here it was all about the Family Game, then the Mega Drive and Super Nintendo, both were very popular, then Playstation 1.

>>5247150
This.Nintendo ruined gaming

>>5247145
It's really fluid and need to be defined better because even pre-internet millennials and post-internet millennials are different creatures. Despite the shitting on zoomers, I think they're the most level headed generation... in a looooooong fucking time.

>>5247369
>I think they're the most level headed generation... in a looooooong fucking time.
Yeah zoomers are so level headed, being addicted to nicotine, shooting each other in school, fapping to traps, bullying each other on tiktok, chopping off their dicks, eating tide pods, etc.

>>5247369
>I think they're the most level headed generation... in a looooooong fucking time.

>>5237571
why did people start calling him wojak instead of feels guy?

So which one were you as a kid?

>>5247369

The worst part is that this guy is being serious. Poetic irony, zoomer lacking self awareness when talking about zoomers.

>>5247465

to make him easier to search for when it became normie level and entered social media

>>5247369
>It's really fluid and need to be defined better because even pre-internet millennials and post-internet millennials are different creatures.

One thing I heard was that Millennials were 1982-1997, or those who were in preschool-12th grade in 2000. Which of those years would you split up into pre-internet, and post-internet?

>>5247476
Early gen y... I really appreciate the cutoff between pogs and pokemon. Even though most of my friends loved pokemon i thought they were crazy, it was way too childish to watch cartoons like that.

how the FUCK are u supposed to beat the first level in Mario? the fucking timer keeps running out