/vr/ - Retro Games

This game is not for you. You don't seem to enjoy exploration as much as platforming and 2D action. I recommend Castlevania Chronicles instead.

>>5239742
I'm all in for exploration. Even if this is my first Castlevania, i'm a huge Metroid fanboy.

Its just.. How could they straigh up drop the endboss casually during midgame as if it was nothing? Would be better gamedesign if there was more buildup and actual reason to go explore, wouldn't it? Hell, put a lock in front of richters door and let me find the key if any.

I just want to play more, the creditroll should be the climax.

>>5239756
You're supposed to figure out that he's not really the endboss. There are clues in the game that help you unlock the true end boss and a ton of more map to explore.

>>5239762
Whaat. Okay, would be great if the game would tell me that in some way. Maybe by.. Just not having a creditroll after beating richter?!

Its the second time this cryptic gamedesign baffles me. Pic related was the only time i had to lookup a walkthrough. Who in his right mind thought it would be a good idea to let the player figure out on their own to wait a whole minute on a random intersection floor to make progress? God damn.

I love this game, i really do. Metroidvania with rpg elements is a really cool mixup, and i really enjoy the rpg elements absolutely. But damn, some gamedesign choices are just horrible.

>>5239756
He's not the real boss. I do agree that maybe they could have made it slightly more obvious, especially to players new to the series but it's really not that hard to figure out unless you're braindead enough to just beat the game ASAP and not explore the castle.

>>5239773
>having to figure things out is horrible
Weak opinion dude. Why do you want to be spoonfed? Just try shit out. You'd hate Zelda 1 and 2 for sure

>>5239780
Zelda 1 and 2 are super shitty games bra.

Getting spoonfed and a game giving hints to get the narrative going are two different things.

I'e heard somewhere that some older Castlevania Game, maybe Simon's Quest but not sure, had this one part where you had to stand with your back at some random corner in the game, ducking, with a special item in your hand and wait for 2 minutes or something like that.

Thats complete bullshit man. There is simply no way to figure shit like that out on your own.

The fault is on you, the game is not meant to be rushed up, there is a lot of quality content in it, so relax and look for every square in the map, also it's way bigger.

>>5239790
You should probably stick to action platformers.

>>5239739

Play Mario 3
Get two whistles on Level 1
Warp to level 8
Why bother playing any other levels.

>>5239801
Be hands down honest. Did you figure out all of the puzzles in those games (SotN, Simons Quest, Zelda 1 and 2) on your own? If yes, how?

>>5239806
With SOTN absolutely, it's easy. For Zelda 1 and 2, back then word of mouth on the school bus was a good way to figure a new thing out, which kept me motivated.

>>5239806
>If yes, how?

… by playing exploring all parts of the game until I find the solution...?

>>5239830
How would anybody find
>>5239790 this out by sheer exploration?

>>5239773
>looking up a walkthrough
zoomer detected

>>5239854
How in the Hell should i come up with simply waiting in some random room for 1 minute?

>>5239841
Simon's Quest gave a hint, not defending it though. SoTN is absolutely easy to figure out, the 2 rings straight up tell you what room you need to go in.

>>5239876
Which rings?

>>5239790
>Zelda 1 and 2 are super shitty
HOT
ZOOMER
OPINIONS
>jpg.Fortnite/backpack.kid/dance

>>5239742
It's clearly a joke thread.

Anon, it's okay to go to Gamefaqs. It existed in the 90s, so you don't have to try to impress anonymous image board users.

>>5239862
because:
>you traverse that room quite a few times
>the map should tell you that you have 3 paths above you
>there's a clock and nothing else so it should give you an idea
basically stop being a zoomer. You're no better than those fags who complain about Super Metroid crystal tube

>hehe I love metroidvanias! I've beaten axiom verge and hollow knight!
>wtf is this bullshit! super metroid and sotn are too hard! literally impossible without walkthroughs!

>>5239739
indeed richter isn't the final boss. Maria even hint that to you saying he could be saved or something. Alucard's daddy maybe know something about.

>>5239985
OP here. Ive beaten every single Metroid that has been released, including the original NES and Metroid 2.

I have never had any trouble with it. But SotN just has some obvious objectively gamedesign flaws.

>>5239957
Unless theres an obvious vent in the very same room that actually does give the player the hint "not yet. Get the right powerup first."

>>5239903
I treat everything as if it's serious in order to promote discourse.

>>5239739
The absolute state of zoomers. Jesus christ.
Just let a meteor end it already

>>5239790
>Zelda 1 and 2 are super shitty games bra.

And into the trash your opinion goes.

>>5239739
Try exploring more dum dum

>>5239985
The absolute state of zoomers

I refuse to believe people took this lame bait

>>5239773
Are we so desperate for things to say about SotN that we're willing to believe anon didn't understand the fucking Richter ending?

>>5239739
>bat form
>richter
I thought the game ended when Death steals your clothes? Is there more?

Saturday boredom bait

YALLNIGGASPOSTININATROLLTHREAD.JPEGDENZELWASHINGTONFACE

>>5239891
The rings you find by exploring the castle jesus

>>5239773
You have not all wrongs. The game is great but come on, who the hell figured on their own this part without looking for a guide or asking somewhere?

>>5240105
The game goddamn shows that you should wear the Gold and Silver rings. They are not hard to find and one is a prize from defeating a boss so it's significance should be clear to anyone not utterly braindead.

>>5240245
How

>>5241135
How what!?

>>5239762
what a pos

>>5239773
Story goes that Igarashi saw a bunch of old Castlevania games in a bargain bin because once people had completed them they would just trade them in for a different game. The aim with SOTN was to create a game that people would have to keep coming back to, hence the sometimes cryptic design (actually more inspired by the early Zelda games than Metroid - when looked at in that way the design makes a bit more sense.)

Just keep exploring and you'll find a shit-ton of secrets. The only problem I have is that the rpg system just makes your character too powerful, so while the level design is cryptic and mysterious the game gets easier the more you play and some boss fights are a fucking joke (on the other hand though, if you sequence break and get to certain bosses earlier than you should they can still pose a good challenge)

You might want to try Aria of Sorrow next. It's like Symphony only with tighter level and gameplay design. That being said with Symphony they literally threw everything at the wall to see what stuck so no other game in the series has the same mad, epic, occasionally flawed vision as it.

>>5242618
One more thing I forgot to mention OP. You're having the exact experience most kids had back in 1997.

"I beat the game? That feels wrong somehow."
>Keep exploring because it's the only game your mom will buy you for a month
>Discover multiple different routes, bosses and story beats
>Get confused as fuck as to why this is post-game content
>Finally figure out what you have to do and discover that after Richter an entire extra thrid of the game opens up
>Get mind blown

>>5239739
its a metroidvania game. its name is part of the genre. its free roam side scroller. in that you can make it to the last boss typically kind of fast if you go straight to them

the original metroid or super metroid same thing. there is a speed route that you can do in like 30 minutes

>>5239756
Retro games aren't for you. You can't expect them to hold your hand every step of the way.

>>5240024
>obvious objectively bad game design flaws

Der eternal Zoomer.

>>5239739
dumbass, you got the bad ending. restart from last save and don't kill richter. read a gamefaq to help you out.

>>5244157
>read a gamefaq to help you out.
don't. just pay attention while playing next time

>>5239756
You're meant to find it disappointing so you go back to explore more. Kid's reactions to this game now are hilarious.

>>5239985
Axiom Verge is such trash, really regret wasting money on that shit

>>5239739

Opening scene is defeating Dracula in the throne room. He says he will be back again. Death says he will meet you again. Series is traditionally about defeating Dracula. Everyone knew Richter wasn't the real last boss.

>>5242682
Newfag really lost
It’s value as a word,didn’t it?

>>5239762
no spoiler tag?

>SOTN
>not playing comfily
>not reading every item description and piece of ingame lore with fascination
>not finding direct, in-your-face clues leading right to the real path to open up the game

Look, anon. Retro games are hard, yes. But the ones that need you to figure them out? They're subtle. They're comfy.

Stop playing retro games on your phone on the toilet at work, with the sound off, as if you have a hundred other games to choose from. That's not the environment SOTN was created in.

>>5245120
What are you talking about. I just told you i'm playing on the ps4. Comfily and even enjoying the game. I actually read all thr monster descriptions too

>>5245120
I don't know who you are but I love you.

>>5245120
Metroidvanias are PERFECT for playing on handhelds (not phones, though, no real game is made for phones). I love playing SOTN while on the shitter or lying in bed on the PSP (best version).
But yeah sound is always enabled.
Sometimes I also connect my PC speakers to the PSP, or just the headphones.

Anyway, SOTN easy as SHIT. OP is a casual.