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5232793 No.5232793[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

Which was the less shitty alternative to the NES?

>> No.5232796

Turbo Grafx

>> No.5232801

>>5232793
Only poorfags and nerds fought the console wars.

>> No.5232802

Turbografx had playable games

>> No.5232820

Master System is quite better than the NES, but NES had a quite better library / more money put into it.

>> No.5232850

Master had better/more platformers.
PC Engine had better/more shmups.

So it depends on your tastes.

>> No.5232902
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5232902

>>5232793
I love the MS but it isn't even in the same league as the PCengine.

>> No.5232924

>>5232793
Turbografx by far!
Turbografx is actually a 4th gen system that is able to stay competitive with the SNES, and Genesis.
The American Library has a very low rate of shovelware and the games dominate NES games with better graphics and sound.


The Master System on the other hand:
Inferior library with a fraction as many games as the NES
Inferior composite video output compared to NES with disgusting jailbars
Inferior controller with a poor Dpad and fewer buttons
Inferior audio with just a few squarewave channels, only 1/6 of games have FM synth which requires modding to get anyway

>> No.5232987

>>5232793
Depends on whether we're throwing CD games into the mix. Without them the Turbografx is lacking, but with them it stands proud with the 4th gen machines.
>>5232924
>The American Library has a very low rate of shovelware
That's because the system was full of terrible licensed games that would be a pain in the ass to bring over. Take those out and you mostly have arcade ports, which it was damn good at.

>> No.5232993

>>5232793
the PC Engine actually had real 3rd party support aside from Taito and Compile

>> No.5232996
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5232996

>>5232793
>Master System
WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THIS?

>> No.5233006
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5233006

>>5232996
Cause it was...

>> No.5233028

>>5233006
OP is clearly referencing the SEGA System, not that part II thing.

>> No.5233029

>>5232996
Can the Sega System play DUAL ORB II?

>> No.5233032

>>5232793
What kind of autistic OP thinks the TG16 is a NES/SMS competitor? It was a Genesis, SNES competitor.

>> No.5233038

>>5232996
>>5233028

This retarded attempt at bait needs to end. Temp bans should be given to idiots that keep posting this (you, and only you are you dumbfuck). I suppose you called the SG1000 the Sega as well? Every single SMS said Master System on it. Even the original "Mark III" was never revered to as just 'Sega'. You probably refer to Genesis as Sega as well.

>> No.5233040

>>5233028
Its what its known as. Like famicom/nes or genesis/mega drive. You dont have to be so fucking autistic. If you said the SEGA system, people would understand, unless you didnt specify in your post that you werent talking about SEGA systems in general, like a typo.

>> No.5233047

>>5233040
>>5232996
>>5233028

>the SEGA system
No. Stop the autism. You are the only one attempting to push this retardation. With no backing.

>> No.5233048

>>5233040
If someone said "the sega system" the response would be "which one"

You were even around back then so why do you care

>> No.5233056
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5233056

>>5233047
>>5233040

Contrary to popular belief, until the advent of the Sega Master System II, Sega did not call the console the "Sega Master System" in North America. Instead the console was referred to as the "Sega System"

https://segaretro.org/Master_System_consoles_in_North_America

>> No.5233069

>>5233056
Don't post segaretro as facts ever again. They can't even properly record how many polygons the 32x could do.

It was known as the Mark III at first you moron. Sega realized it didn't make sense as it technically was NOT a continuation of the SG-1000 like the MarkII was. Sega instantly branded it as the the Sega Master System instead of the Mark III. You can't even get the distinction of the several SG-1000 variations and SMS systems straight.

What you are attempting to say isn't even as bad as EVERYONE calling the NES a Famicom, it is like everyone calling it a CONTROL DECK.

>> No.5233073
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5233073

>>5233056
Oh yeah? And what does it say here?

>> No.5233074
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5233074

>>5233056
The word "Master" is nowhere to be found in any official documentation.
They even trademarked the name "SEGA System".
The warranty covers only the SEGA System, which is the legally recognized name.

>> No.5233076

>>5233048
I already covered that, you dip. You didnt even read my post. Quit getting so assblasted cause nobody cares about it not originally being called the master system.

>> No.5233078
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5233078

>>5233073
That's just one of the names for the Power Base.
The legal name, underneath, again omits that fake "master" label.

>> No.5233084

>>5233069
"After Burner, only on the SEGA System."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28jhh1R7hhY

>> No.5233086

>>5233074
Neat. Its still the Master System now though so deal with it

>> No.5233089

>>5233078
And its the name that stuck. The fact that it's on there proves Sega used the name from the very start. It's not fake just because it shits all over your revisionism.

>> No.5233096

>>5233089
>And its the name that stuck.
It's a forced meme to keep people from mixing it up with the Genesis.

>> No.5233103

>>5233096
This. There were so many titles that were on both, including sonic sega had to rebrand its system(no pun intended) or else it would be the sega system mark 4

>> No.5233107

>>5233069
>Don't post segaretro as facts ever again.
Unlike you, they are reliable and know what they're talking about. They list facts, not spite.

>> No.5233108

For me, it's the Atari 7800.

>> No.5233116

>>5233032
Because it was released in 1987 to go against the NES.

The TGCD is what really competed against SNES/MD.

>> No.5233117

>>5233096
>>5233103
Horseshit. This ad is from 1987, 2 years before the release of the Genesis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ifrKyrjWA4

>> No.5233127
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5233127

>>5233107
Also, the Master System originally referred to the bundle sold with Hang-On/Safari Hunt and the Light Gun.
The 3 bundles were:
Sega Base System
Sega Master System
SegaScope 3D System (note which word is not to be found anywhere on the package.)

>> No.5233132
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5233132

What word cannot be found here?
Is it "Sega"?.... No.
Is it "System".... No.
Is it "Master".... Yes.

>> No.5233135

>>5233117
They're referring to the specific bundle sold with Safari Hunt and the gun.

>> No.5233136

>>5233127
>note which word is not to be found anywhere on the package
Except ingrained on the fucking console itself. What an inconvenient truth.

>> No.5233137

>>5233136
But underneath is the correct legal name. See this image: >>5233078

>> No.5233139

>>5233135
And the name stuck. It's been widely called the MS since the damn 90s. Why the fuck do you care

>> No.5233143

>>5233137
Oh, so now it's just not the "legal" name? Cool story bro, go file a criminal complaint.

>> No.5233146

>>5233136
According to your logic the name is "SEGA MASTER SYSTEM Power Base".

>> No.5233149

>>5233143
I did, and I and many others sued them for $millions. Why do you think they went under.

>> No.5233158

>>5233146
Actually there's a / between master system and power base

>> No.5233167

>not calling the master system Mark IV and the mega drive Mark V
step it up /vr/

>> No.5233187

>>5233158
>According to your logic the name is "SEGA MASTER SYSTEM/Power Base".

>> No.5233318

>>5232996
What Sega System are you referring to?

>> No.5233481

>>5233318
see
>>5233056

>> No.5233487 [DELETED] 

Turbografx is only 8 bit in name, it's actually a lot more efficient than the Super Nintendo except that it couldn't do additional background layers.

>> No.5233524

>>5232801
THE WARS NOT OVER!

>> No.5233562
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5233562

"The Dragon's Curse" for TurboGrafx 16 on the left.
Wonder Boy III: The Dragon's Trap" for the SEGA Video Game System on the right.
The difference? SEGA gives you twice as much gold. Also, Sega created the game first.

TG16 copied a lot of games from the SEGA System, but at least they had the sense not to name their machine SegaGrafx 16, since that would cause Sega to have to rename their system yet again, perhaps settling on the "Sega Power Base System", or the Sega Power On, Sega Cartridge Input, or Sega Reset Pause System.

>> No.5233672

>>5233562
>SEGA System

Anon, I've never wanted to literally skull fuck someone before now. GR8 B8 M8.

>> No.5233690

>>5233672
>Skull fuck
You mean bash head in with axe?

>> No.5233770

>>5233481
Oh you mean the Sega Master System?

>> No.5233845
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5233845

>>5233562
>TG16 copied a lot of games from the SEGA System, but at least they had the sense not to name their machine SegaGrafx 16, since that would cause Sega to have to rename their system yet again, perhaps settling on the "Sega Power Base System", or the Sega Power On, Sega Cartridge Input, or Sega Reset Pause System.

>> No.5233860

>>5232793

The Turbo waan't released in the USA until around the time of the Genesis Launch. If you wanted to play Master System games then you just got a power base convertor for your Genesis.

Turbo is leaps and bounds better than the Master System and a good competitor to the Genesis.

>> No.5234176

>>5233562
>The difference? SEGA gives you twice as much gold.

the pc engine version also runs at a stable 60 fps, and contains battery save

>> No.5234283

SEGA does what NECan't.

>> No.5234620

>>5233032
It was both, TG16 came out right in the middle of the NES lifespan and continued to hold on for a few years after the SNES/Genesis came out

>> No.5234905

>>5233770
There's no such thing.

>> No.5234945

Turbo for the shmups